S02 E2 Widows and orphans

[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] I think in with mr. Kuhn today is spring change not so much of a merry [Music] [Applause] [Music] so you'd like me to collect you next week then would you mrs. Hanes they don't listen to you you're all the same you do goodness so busy imitating the Angels you just don't listen good night Angela thank you for all your help my pleasure mrs. Haines my pleasure you fight my front door and you are pouring for it here's a milk I think because you get old you get stupid but they're not Evan what's mine they're not heavy Frost I wonder if we might have a word yeah certainly mr. rum right mr. bright right right right yes mr. bright this is very embarrassing mr. frost and I do hope you won't take it amiss oh well not to put too fine a point on it it's your back garden I mean I know we're only very recent newcomers to the neighborhood I fully appreciate that you're a very busy man well he would be in your line of business but no absolutely you're quite right I'll get something done about it mr. bright that's very civil of you oh I was wanting to have a word with you anyway oh yes why is that could you give me a push someone breaks in and takes the only bit of money she's got and what do you people do about it Hey nothing all she gets the follow-up visit from some stupid cow who says is she all right and would she like a cup of tea just look at the state of her she's terrified to go to bed at night do something all right do something don't waste time they're useless how about this business well we're very near by the end of the week are we give them a pool Jack have you got a minute yes gentlemen what can I do for you how about these old-age pensioners are they getting turned over no no senior citizens please see there was another one two nights ago yes that's Roger that loan lady living on her own someone broke in took about 80 quid and use fivers correct me if I'm wrong but that will be the sixteenth such breaking in three weeks oh I haven't gave Carol but you're probably right sir as it happens I'm exactly right sixteen elderly ladies most of them robbed of their life savings what are we doing about it what the hell can we do about it he doesn't leave any forensic and no one's ever seen him I mean he wasn't so bad if he was taking jewelry you know trying to flog it I might get a whisper but he doesn't he takes bits and pieces he concentrates on cash what about the blue van oh yes that's right the famous blue vein well it's something for you to go on isn't it yes sir sixteen burglaries two people to mark you said they thought they saw a blue van parked nearby the first one said it was definitely a small blue van the other one said it was a big van probably blue but couldn't be certain yeah well it's a lead Jack of a sort which presumably are following up yes sir but do you realize how many blue vans there are in the Denton area alone it doesn't matter how many they are we have a computer it can churn out the information in seconds yes sir we have it it's already done there but what it can't do it can't go round knocking on doors asking bloody stupid questions that comes down to PC plot and that takes time and that comes out of your budget sir now if there's nothing else my sausage sandwich is congealing no good thank you are you happy with that sort of negative attitude [Music] what don't you get in I'll done star just don't stop when you come today because I fell asleep down here all right look at the state you yeah well if an occasional I milk still out hmm next door a milk still out I could hear a cat behind the door like it's trying to get out I think I'll see if she's alright don't just leave it it's silly Dean she's an old I said leave it you don't give a toss about anyone do you know about that old cow I don't know [Music] all I'm saying is take it easy I'll come on Jimmy get what up my no no make the effort please yes all right all right I'll try oh and Jack it's a little concerned about the way you dress the way I want well you know your shirts and stuff oh that's great that is so far today up my god mine didn't have my shirt anything else well Mary I know don't tell me you going on the way apart my car another old kills me turned over its Tommy beat her up pretty badly Bowl accounts okay anyone home in here guv this is where it happened it they found her in this chair they they a couple next door WPC Wallace is with him now yes yes I know us all how do you mean chair she was sitting in this chair as he says someone comes in and beats her face to pulp and she just sits there dishing no I'm saying that's how he found her I don't suppose she but a much for fight she's 76 years old and crippled with arthritis so stick there is it presumably go that's how you found it leaning against a chair like that it's a handbag down there is it not that unopened that's how we found it state of her face there must have been blood everywhere but as you can see the place is immaculate no blood no miss everything in its place he must have tied it up after him she come entirely my place do we know what's missing if anything I had a careful looking at bag according to a pension book she drew her money yesterday but her purse was empty after loosing bits and pieces of silver maybe she spent it she obviously lives well he's nearly a quids worth of food in that fridge find out where she draws her pension check her pension book see him actually drew out some of these old girls you know they leave it for a couple of weeks could be quite a bundle it's already in hand thought it might be sergeant just trying to impress you with my laser light mind what about jewelry nothing seems to have been disturbed but again we're checking that's where everybody knows she's a widow no family off liquor well sir what do you reckon same bloke you think I don't see it golf no oh the way she was attacked the way the place has been left no forced entry no this is a one-off well hopefully it's a one-off well if they came in from next door the chain must have been off maybe she hadn't put it on Jack yes come on tell me something wonderful fled across the Lord wants to speak to the man in charge I see will I do number 37 mrs. Barrett all right I don't see what you can find out next door will you listen to one a team knocking on all the doors I want forensic giving us priority and I want someone sitting by the old girl's bed night and day and if I've forgotten anything I want that done as well all right oh yes by the way in order to keep mr. mullet happy see if anyone's seen a blue van about with it blue van yeah number 37 and then we're not open the door anyway em when I run out and I got Dean and he came in and stayed with her them well I went and cross the road to find the ambulance no I was had been cut off I don't think about emergencies did people today solana and the chain it wasn't on the door I didn't know she had one chain well I think that's all I need to know for now she about a 50/50 chance they reckon I hate poking my nose in but I thought it might be useful I mean the state of her they were having a row old mother Haynes and that young couple from next door well my neighbor's name is rau all the time tonight she keeps a spare key hidden in the front garden bloody dumbest if you ask me everybody knows where it is but as far as I could make out she'd come back found it moved I was accusing him of taking it well if everybody knows about it why pick on it had some trouble before she'd accused him of going in and poking about while she was down at the hospital see and he's that likely bit of a lay about that girlfriend of his looked worried out of her mind still I suppose you must have done something you right or she wouldn't have stuck with him would she so was about five o'clock last night so you didn't see or hear anything after that no not until this morning when I saw I go into the house but not last night no I was out my fence you man picked me up we went for a ride in the car fancy man he only wants us to get engaged mark you I couldn't marry him even if I wanted to oh why is that I lied to him didn't I if we got married he'd find out I told you if I was 67 and I'm really 68 now there is naughty I don't know what they all think silly on cow with a blonde wig painted fingernails still running after a pair of trousers no just because you get old it doesn't mean to say you stop having feelings it doesn't mean to say that you really don't want to reach out and feel a warm body lying next to you and you wake up in the morning if you wake up in the morning [Music] [Music] excuse me tell me where Ward five how is she she's opened her eyes but she's not really with us [Music] mrs. Hanes if I'm to get the hero that did this I'm gonna need your help I need a description anything if you understand me just squeeze my hand [Music] why would he do this to her I don't know sir perhaps she caught him at it and he panicked or something she was half crippled she couldn't move somebody yep I know this no constable I just don't understand it neither do i sir but then I don't understand a lot of things I see in this job ain't none of fact constable they net effect [Music] turn right and you get to the gate [Music] second volts turn left something urgent to do up the ice tree [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] she wasn't miserable old biddy by all accounts I can't find anyone with a good word to say about her by June she wasn't a lot of pain with the arthritis she's a bloody cycle pain learned here tell me something it was her birthday I had the October the 26 1917 well somebody must have liked it they gave her a present there was some gift wrapping paper in the bin in the kitchen well that's useful God try me funny solvent [ __ ] no goddamn right post office in car to your road she was in there yesterday afternoon for the first time in three weeks three weeks money how much is that 165 pounds near enough I'm mostly in notes fingerprints I've got an identification Dean were law students aged 24 three previous burglary breaking entering and assault with the knife as his kids bloke next door is due anybody home no mommy mom no course we don't we know he was in there because he was the one that found that wouldn't you know he said he's um well if he's in it says his girlfriend Oh wish someone would let me finish right carry on constable and his fingerprints were all over the old girl's handbag bloody corpse are you get the odds with your payment so bloody what so we are a few Bob does that mean he's gonna go beat up some old lady you are sick you are that's what you are you're sick just like me never patient I get the red one keep them waiting it and for your information miss Reynolds it's not because the light of your life here has got a record is because his fingerprints were found all over the old lady's handbag yes I was in there you know I was in there yes but I didn't know that you were pancit about with her n bag did I it was on the floor right I picked it up what's wrong with that why are you touching our handbag in the first place right you heard son I said what were you doing touching her handbag so one minute having a shouting match with her on the doorstep the next minute going in to see if she's all right how do you account for that because she's a human being which is more than you are you're smug cow we're not standing for this thing this victimization this is you tell me what this is doing in your airing cupboard mr. Hoskins it's my diary money so well oh so you put it in the airing cover in case a little old lady breaks in a Nicks is that it Dean I'll tell you so what at least our skins little old lady withdrew her pension money yesterday and they recorded all the numbers because they were new nose just like these mister or skins so if those numbers and these numbers are the same that's so what - mr. Hoskins look I swear to you I never touched her and what's this all about no gospel truth alright I never laid a finger on Cathy goes over a road and I'm standing now and I see her handbag and he's like hey something with a purse and everything I was gonna pay her back for Christ's sake I mean it's not as if she's gonna need it is she well is she no no don't worry I don't know what time about myself no no no don't do that yeah why don't I get to take away what's your fancy Chinese no uh look don't tell me now I'll then I'll give you a ring from the and you can turn with it okay gotta go Sarika look at this lot it every day it's the same well what do you think about our friend off skins is he in the frame or not only as a sneak-thief I don't see him as a granny betcha well how do I still he's the only one we've got in the frame so he's got to keep hold of him keep him for a while you know make him sweat teach him a lesson I didn't think didn't think what I didn't think we're in the business of teaching lessons [Music] [Music] [Music] I reckon the old girl was beaten about their head without walking stick blah-blah-blah-blah wiped clean of all princess cetera traces of blood in the kitchen waste trap so he cleans it off and he leaves it resting against the chairs if nothing happened apart from changing the shape of her face no missus single piece of a jigsaw puzzle found wedged down the side of the chair no due to a puzzle of any sort family so the beats are up and he doesn't take anything as far as we know which means walk he was either disturbed or he panicked couldn't find anything but she didn't want anything in the first place [Music] right don't home time [Music] how's your drink [Music] right there you go Oh God I just remembered I forgot to pick up most stuff from the laundry no no it's all right I should be able to make it how I'll have to I haven't got a clean shirt in now so Cheers well how am i doing how am i treating you you just warm your large G&T I had a lecture from horn-rimmed Harry about how I should treat a female officer who was unfortunate enough to get yourself posted is my bag man person bag person you know quality arrest mental west Oh hmm actually if the truth be known and I think that mr. Malik was hoping that you'd be the sort of woman that immediately I bought her a large gin and tonic would think I was trying to get into her knickers I say by George Turner Campari and soda the other night I'd hate to think you were trying to get into is how do you mean hoping mr. mullet I was being indiscreet can't believe that yes mr. mullet and I share I think what's commonly known as a lack of understanding yes yes I've heard about it it's only my medal that keeps me afloat yes I've heard about that too if I do fine there's a problem and it does happen you know and I'll tell you know him I'll drink to that yes here telephone frost you let the speaker ten to release three puppies paper with the overstate sergeant app you don't listen sergeant if you've seen a Blanc and what you ignorant if you take my my saying gov do you think breaking into someone's house on the say-so of an anonymous phone call is a bit of a Liberty yes you're quite right sergeant I'm getting too bloody old for this sort of thing next time you wear a pair of trousers [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] what do you mean it's for his own good she's been dead for weeks and he's still trying to feed her he needs help but that is precisely my point why are you arresting him we're not arresting him or we're taking him into care because we don't do that he's gonna be in an even worse stage isn't he [Applause] [Music] called you to pick my stuff up from the laundry somebody's been nicking your stuff yes all of it that's what I call it desperate criminal I call into the market oh you show me style then it's not look two shirts for a tenner I can't be back any quality gear that ya know were they all off to that Brighton lunch theater matinee fish-and-chip tea not bad eh no I'd rather be 18 and off to the Palais right this why year you wouldn't help me move this piano did you yes course where would you like it just up the back here please right okay thanks what can you tell me about mrs. Haynes oh yes poor mrs. Haynes I called in at the hospital yesterday evening evening they don't seem very hopeful what do you want to know well anything you know about her not a lot really she's been a member of the club for what two maybe two and a half years no relatives as far as I know she's the sort of woman who would open the door to a stranger would you take oh no definitely not she's got rather a suspicious nature I'm afraid well let's face it she can actually be very difficult a lot of the old people here are very friendly with each other popping in to each other's houses and so on but I don't think mrs. Haynes ever invited anyone back to her place how did she get here to the club we have a team of volunteer drivers someone would have collected her and then taken aback do you know who took her home this week Angela mrs. Newcombe thank you anything else I can help you with what I'm here well there's the chairs two teas the baking soda Lauren Lawson Detective Sergeant Lawson the one with the long hair you know Maureen surname is it she's good news his aunt she's good looker oh we don't find yourself tempted what play footsie with a junior officer gaudiya Molly would love that Amir yes no actually Jim I think I've lost the urge no women what's that growing up or growing old you reckon fair now only about a rough old yeah must drink at the time I'm off the court see ya hope I didn't get you to trouble loss not my boyfriend sorry you know get you in later you know all the time that we were together my wife never realized that she wasn't just married to me she was also noted that job not that I didn't take advantage of it you know use it as an excuse all those blokes in the pub last night Elliot Bernhard bloody Elliot come on [Music] [Music] hello Bernard and you've got anything a bit more cheerful mr. frost nice to see you bloody liar that your van over there the blue one yes it is yes the blue one haven't told Swansea that you've painted it every little tinker they put it down as a white one so we yes sorry what were you doing in that house last night better what house come on Berlin I know that it was you that phoned me because I recognized your voice not at first I must admit but then I'm not as bright as I once was neither are you come on you were turning it over weren't you Bernhard certainly not oh come on the only way that you would have known about mrs. tooten car moon was the if you'd have been in the house and you didn't go through the front door you went through the window like I did now come on don't mess me about then if you know how irritable I can get all right I was in there seeing what I could find and I found frightened the life out of me yeah well didn't do my laundry much good I can tell you what earn it what is this where did that come from I'll tell you where it came from it came from a mrs. Redgrave who was burgled three weeks ago listen we've had quite a run on these burglaries what I want to know is are they down to you now a simple yes or no will suffice and this is police brutality week so think carefully how long you been in the burger business really that's why I haven't given you a ton before I had you down as a nine-to-five man well things haven't been good my daughters getting married in a couple of months do you buggered that up man you burn it should have thought of that before you went around robbing little old ladies the chance of bail I suppose so was a chance to England that'll beat Germany six nil [Music] [Music] sixteen burglaries and one attempted we include last ones take the sleeping beauty excellent yes sir I thought you'd be pleased well let's face it that improves this month's clear-up rate by about nought point five percent and you're quite sure he wasn't involved in this assault on his whatever pains no no no that's nice dog oh by the way sir you were absolutely right did have a blue van Desmond it's your mother you said you were going to phone me fat chance at that I don't think where are you from one of your fancy business trips I suppose oh I don't know if your father were Oh hold on you'll have to wait there's someone at the door might even be you my yeah Shirley Shirley Fisher yes of course sorry I was miles away how are you I'm fine do yes yes yeah how's it smoking oh okay still got no confidence in this hmm which are you good oh there's me great well did you ever get that new car oh uh I decided against it how about you did you get a new washing machine yeah no same thing really I got a season ticket to the late-night launderette you're looking after yourself friend yes oh yes I take bars and everything you'd be amazed no it's okay it still feels a bit strange living on my own get used to it eventually I got this way it's really nice seeing you yes yes yes you you need to bother jack glad you're all right yes um maybe we could have a meal or something sometime if you're not very nice good well then I'll give you a ring okay [Music] [Music] well did you say anything nothing I could make sense of who's that in there with him someone from the church mrs. Newcombe well look there's no point in both of us staying here good night Jane you come did you yes Angela Newcombe she drove her home mrs. nuke she's old and she's lonely sometimes known her this turns to bitterness what comes like a cancer and takes over [Music] especially and carry really like some of them some of the help is a wonderful really wonderful they do so much I don't mean people like me people who don't have children or a family I mean people who the megwin's we're supposed to be at the mid winds oh god I'm sorry I'm so sorry I'm just about sick and tired of playing second fiddle to these lame dogs of yours do you understand me do you understand me excuse me sir it was my fault you see I was asking who are you Oh Joe I asked him Detective Inspector frost Denton's CID no I see about Angela's old lady yes that's right I do need to ask my wife any more questions no sir as a matter of fact I don't then we need to detain you need we deny mrs. Newcomb goodnight sir every time every time there's anything important I'm not doing this oh yes Newcomb John Newcombe see what you can find out about John Newcombe for human who is he he's the husband of one of the helpers don't see what's it where the old lady went anything in particular no other than I don't like him well in that case I'm sure we can find something to put it away for a year or two just find out about him for me with you hmm three hours and that's my lot last night I thought right I'll have a nice early night nice drop the Scotch get myself eight hours well happens two o'clock this morning I'm wide awake again I suppose you around the term the old fella was yeah we did them we did go out from me yeah I guess what I need really pretty company I've had an offer what made an offer hmm thing is though listen to me now this is your fault sergeant you've been a bloke I wouldn't be going on like this Frost students one morning you get it properly this time must be kidneys handy [Music] this is Alex right at 76 she's a widow got a son living Denson name of Desmond trying to contact him [Music] I followed her Daily Mirror yesterday afternoon just before she went off to bingo Thursday's her bingo afternoon she gets back about 7:00 about half nine I knock on her door to give it back but there's no answer so I stick it in the letterbox well I'm going for me walk this morning and it's still in there that's funny I think so I knocked on a door and I still don't get no answer so I let myself in I've got a spare to her flat she got one of mine just in case and yeah yes she is so hahaha phone you look look would you would you fancy a cup of tea no thanks I've had one we're going you go ahead so she didn't have a security chain on the front door then she didn't have no chain oh yes he's got one all right brand-new to buy looks of things totally oh I'm getting old you know I never noticed it I I knew she was having one fit you like because she said her son was worried about all these burglars that been going on yeah yeah not worried enough to spend a bit of time with her though right do any of them where's the pathologist even gone eh old phony this afternoon with the time for the autopsy [Music] [Music] well nothing missing everything clean and tidy just like the other one [Music] look at that fifty quid in a person nothing in the fridge my mother was just the same half the old man when he was putting something by for a rainy day rather die of cold and spend money on a decent sweater getting old and frightened something to look forward to is my sergeant what you're saying is there's every possibility we have a serial killer here in Denton well if the first victim dies and there's every chance you will that's what we're saying yes we've gotta tread very carefully on this one the last anyone is panicking well panic is what you're gonna get it unless you can keep the press in check it I'm holding them off all morning I need to do is give the public our side of things reduce the panic syndrome I'll get in touch with social services arrange to have some liaison work have the usual notices and warnings put out and so on what we need sir is run your television appearances yes I need to be kept properly informed on this one jack no scribbled notes up-to-the-minute information best of all of course a quick result this is our number one priority he's got to be caught before he kills him right what do we got okay but please everyone listen let's have your concentration acne on this board I want you to take a look at these pictures this is Mary Haines age 77 this is Alice Ryder age 76 course ladies and gentlemen I just want to show you the sort of man that we are dealing with right now he's done this twice if we don't find him but find him quick he's gonna do it again because a man who's capable of this sort of thing is a mental case and he's not going to stop until someone stops him right now why these why these two old ladies in particular hmm does he attack at random or is there a link you know is there a common denominator well let's think about it what do we know about both they're both old ladies they're both widowed and they both live alone and they both open the door to someone they knew someone they trusted all right now apart from family and friends weren't too many of them about by all accounts who else who else would they open the door to that they knew that they trusted that's what we want to know now come on let's have some ideas come on think of the doctor home visitor social services Meals on Wheels guys man electricity there's someone from the church vicar or priest or someone good good come on anybody else any other ideas no sorry all right well there's a sign of the times for you I asked you to give me a list of all the people they might trust not one of you mentioned a bloody policeman all right all right now come on let's get on with it I want you to chase them all anyone anyone else that you can think of now Jules what drycleaners long dress and that sort of thing there's nothing I can keep at it some of you might turn off any joy with the neighbors no guv deaf and dumb as usual oh there is one thing some kid records he saw a car door blue saloon pretty sure it was a box or did we have a Vauxhall with the other old lady a box all or a Ford you asked me to check on new kill gov Saiga Newcomb the husband of the woman who works at the old people's club all right yes he's an architect no record nothing known know that you a pound to a penny not sir about a bit look anything else there is one thing up we keep saying he killer why couldn't it be a woman that's wonderful thank you one of the hoses that perished and come loose is that bad no no not at all I've tighten the clip for now but the best thing you can do is to take it into your local garage and ask them to fit a new one are you all right mrs. Newcomb yes of course why do you ask that we just look like there's something bothering you it's just that I'm running a bit late that's all I wanted to get home before my husband he worries about me off you go then thanks again [Applause] [Music] apart from my mother there were two other messages on the machine one at 8:15 the other at 9 o'clock all right take your time mr. Ryder Himura NASA q please so you were saying there were two other calls of a machine one at 8:15 and the other at nine o'clock that means that your mother must have phoned you sometime between the intervening 45 minutes yes they put the time of her death somewhere between 9 and 11 o'clock what you're saying is they do is she answered the door to his first thought no I tanked no I'm not saying that definitely so no but it is a distinct possibility she wouldn't answer the door to someone she didn't know that was always it's always very firm with her about that it was I don't suppose you bought the tape with you did you sir no I'm sorry I'd like to borrow it if I'm a sergeant here we'll go back with you thank you very much that's awesome one more thing mr. Ryder where were you last night me you suspect me I'd be happy if I had anyone to suspect it's just a question of elimination I was in New Castle the Queensway hotel is the receipt thank you sir I'd like it back I need it for my expenses claim all right again goes to slow down slow down remember she's an old lady there's the second doorbell she gets to the door she looked through the spy hole cause she's sitting she says something again when she's saying something else but now she draws the first bolt and she draws the second bolt he takes off the chain toughen the law under the door had she said something to him he says some of his own sesame up she writes him in because then she closes the door there is comes a long haul she leaves him in the hole picks up a receiver and the tape runs out well definitely someone she knew definitely someone she wasn't afraid of we can't hear what she said at the door yeah played again played again this time just the sounds of her doing the door as loud as you can please the chain sorry no sound of the chain being taken off well done sergeant [Music] it's very good of you to spare me the time mr. project it's nice to be of some use for a change so then all about when I spoke to you earlier you said that you knew that mrs. Ryder was having a change fitted because her son was worried about it something like that yeah did she tell you this B about last Tuesday no Wednesday I was take no paper Bettany run that while I was there checking to see if she'd done something about it and I overheard like so he was getting it fixed for is he no that's it you see that's what that's what she was going on about I mean that's how I know she was saying don't bother I'll get it done myself fat lot you care that's all the thing you know the use of øg øg anyway when she rang off I said to her I said listen if you want to change it I'll do it no thank you she said the bloke that bingos already offered so I think right I don't suit yourself blow clean finger I think she meant one of the drivers well they lay on a little Coach 408 these picks mac and brings a moment did she have a regular driver you know never seen him I say him but sometimes EV women drivers so you don't go yourself in bingo don't believe in gambling muds game besides I never bloody win anything did you ask if one of the things you sign them did you like her yeah very nice she won't eat eyes well then what thing is why I'm trying to expose isn't say I took her out for a meal or something you know I don't want her to get the wrong idea yeah yeah what do you think what's the worst thing that can happen you take her out you have a bad couple of hours you say goodbye and you never see her again come on risky yeah you want to give your phone or a ring tell him you're gonna be late that's right and by the way it isn't my fella I live with someone but it isn't a fella I just didn't want you to get the wrong idea go right go right yeah yeah right I'll be there yeah thank you but right sorry about that where were we come on the Georgia coffee go but the main bingo run contract is with superswift coaches but they subcontract the work out from other funds on a day-to-day basis these are they now each firm has a rota of drivers for its various roles so you wouldn't necessarily get the same y but each time and not only bad most drivers are self-employed so that the same driver could do work for different firms yeah all right look skip the AUSA's duva's George get down and meet me very well we've run all the names and judy rotors through the computer so that we could eliminate all those who definitely couldn't be in the frame when the attacks took place yeah and we've come down to four possibilities David and on the hardwick 38 married two children Thomas Riley 41 married no children Patrick Robert O'Connell 33 married one teenage daughter Ronald William Gould 35 and single now I've still got a lot more chicken to do but apart from anything else most drivers swap around with each other and they don't tell the governor but anyway as it stands at the moment the only one who was definitely off duty at the time of both attacks is mr. bull but he's a very cheery sort of brave by all accounts all the old dears love it right I'll be off now then grant are you getting on with your new puzzle god I don't forget to change my book of course I like don't you think it should add your bets of it no I don't Jim I really fancy this one you got nothing on him and I'll find something this is our boy I know it is it's your famous gut reaction is yeah well that's guts in a gym you get ulcers I get reactions yeah well let's hope we get result as well look if you really fancy him don't blow in a Jag don't pull him in until you're good solid evidence I want every available man on him and when he watch 24 hours a day I want to know everything there is to know about him when his photograph shown to all his neighbors excuse me governor if it's bad news I don't want to hear it it's the connection gov gold no in the two old ladies because he takes him to the bingo so only one of them was a member of the club are you talking about they both had membership cards they were in their handbags the mick bingo club yes but gov one of the membership cards ran out two years ago mrs. Haynes she stopped going because of her arthritis [Applause] all right there you go so she went to the hospital yes but how did she get there a woman in her condition they were to send an ambulance no not necessarily my son because they have a team of volunteer drivers who help the ambulances out when they're too busy to pick up patients I know cuz I had a volunteer driver pick up my wife well they don't keep a record of individual pickups they get too many for that all they can say is that one of the drivers who was on duty when mrs. Haynes last attended her treatment was a mr. RW Gould [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] cattle would make motion I've been feeding some details into the national computer well first of all you know how I hate computers and one way to catch criminals and that's good old-fashioned police work that means beating the hell out of some poor sod till he signs a fake confession looking for similarities age of victim method of assault yeah I know all that cool two years ago in Plymouth there were three identical killings old ladies living on their own beaten to death the first killing took place on the 26th of March hmm same date as the attack on mrs. hangs the third killing the last took place a month later no one was ever arrested books are still opened they're sending the details down to us there's an end attached to this illusion and gold used to live in Ivy Bridge which is ten miles outside Plymouth he moved here about 18 months ago [Music] she really is a lovely old lady that one right there sir where to how about the police station Detective Inspector Frost I wonder if she could spare me five minutes of your time please sir oh thank you very much she does love her milk and biscuits well we all have our funny little ways don't we that's true that's why I asked if you wouldn't mind coming back here she gets very upset I'm not back when I say are you silly old girl she's my craft as I was saying sir it's just a matter of me finding out as much as I can about mrs. Haines and mrs. Ryder I understand that they were very fond of you sir they trusted you a great deal and I was wondering if one of them might have said something that might you know just might help me with my inquiries of course hope you've any help I can but I can't when I say were mrs. Haines to the life of course yes I've been in to see her a couple of times it's finally the officer didn't mention anything I've got an officer in there 24 hours a day just in case well I didn't actually Garvey I just wanted to see her and I could see through the door that she was still unconscious no I'm hoping that she might be able to tell us something but between you and me not hold him in rhythm at him it's very unlikely that she's gonna make a recovery yes so I understand but to be frank with you mr. Gould if I can't get a positive identification on this one I might have the Greek hmm well very nice thank you very much very nice you'd be surprised how difficult it is to get a decent cup of tea in this job as I understand that you were one of the last people to see mrs. Haines and live sir I don't think so oh yes you were the one that drove her back from the senior citizens Club no not me inspector yes my officers told me it was always you well usually yes but this week it was missing Newcomb no no no no no no mr. Gould is said mr. Cole because he's the only one that put up with her they said she wasn't that bad you know she was quite a dear old lady what really is sorry she is a dear old lady she isn't dead yet sir not clinically anyway I'll just take the something right yes yes all right [Music] [Music] all right yes she was in the loo how long have you lived with them Oh forever never thought of getting married then well when the right person comes along do they ever do they ever your parents still alive are they no no they they died in a motoring accident no I'm sorry bars a long time ago I don't really remember them I'll see your grands a bit of a jigsaw puzzle er oh yes it's amazing really what she can do by touch these are not like normal pieces though are though these jigsaw pieces bit thicker I make them especially for her oh yes me so homey of mine I've got a little workshop out the back well I say workshop it's at the end of the garage really but it's very well equipped everything I need really do you might have a look as I said everything I need hmm just lock the door and forget your troubles it yes this was very impressive yes sorry what's this oh that's a little intercom I rigged up so I can learn here and if she needs me I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you this sir can you tell me where you were from the two nights in question oh yes I was here well outside in the garage my grandmother can confirm that of course yes yes of course well I don't think I need waste any more of your time if you do think of anything yes of course thank you sir oh there is one thing that occurs did you by any chance give one of your jigsaw puzzles to mrs. Haines yes I did actually I gave them to several of my old ladies they don't get many presents some of these why do you ask mm-hmm it's just that I found a piece of jigsaw down the side of her chair and he only registered because it was unusual you know as a rather thick one ah well that's cleared up another little mystery that's the trouble with my job you get suspicious of your own shadow oh I see that you've got a chain fitted the solid one did you do that yes months ago I see that reminds me when you delivered your present to mrs. Ryder did she have the chain on the front door it was mrs. Haines not mrs. Ryder yes of course it was I'm sorry yes yes Here I am grant did yes stems did yes him I'm sorry I thought you said you see you are useless you always have been and you always will be can't do anything right can you there's only one word for you yes [Music] you just missed him actually he was delivering for our bring him by on Saturday there's a bit of bad luck anything I can do no no I just wanted a quick word I'm trying to piece together what happened the day mrs. Haynes was attacked helps you out a lot does he mr. Gould oh yes well like today for instance he must have made three or four trips loading and unloading and he does some bits of decorating helps out with the boiler keeping it well-stocked and so on sounds quite a little treasure what people used to call a Christian before it became politically in sorry I'm just got to get that far [Music] [Music] [Music] sorry about that there's always something that has to be done yesterday I'm sure you find the same hmm it's that sort of world a typical tell me something some of the clothes you get must be too old dirty or even stained to sell verminous sometimes we shove them straight into the boiler useful things the old coke burning boiler consumed by flames gets rid of most things a flicker the old clothes verminous clothes blood-stained clothes even a body should the occasion arise how much is this jacket all right what have you got you've got the opportunity you think you've got no food and he got damn all else I've collected all known intelligence which includes a psychiatric report and it makes very interesting reading nutcase you might be stupid he is not you'll have an answer for everything you can bet your life on it it's all in those reports Jim read it read it first thing tomorrow he's our man Jim I know he is go home the pair of you okay what do you think it'd be new jacket very nice ooh made in Czechoslovakia not surprised for pound fifty drive a hard bargain these checks no no no no no good it off the vicar I was nice to see mr. mullets having some effect upon you mullet nothing god date thank you now I know why they call it happy hour anyway Cheers it's good to see you again my poem I'll book the table another recommendation oh it's very good oh you've been done once or twice it's good good is it it's very good oh good it's an Italian restaurant the owners Spanish oh I didn't know that I mean that the owners Spanish what shall I say anyway you still living in the same place and how the house yes yeah I thought about moving but I couldn't really get my mind to that's what I suppose you know I'm avoiding it really I mean you know the hassle it's okay it's okay what happened no sorry no go my boy you'll honestly no no no yes neck up you said to him um well you said there was someone else I just wondered what happened about it the way you talked about her um I'm sorry he didn't say her name Eileen Eileen um I got the impression that you and she would no no no no I haven't spoken to Eileen since Mary died long before him my special should have done really I mean that's what he was all about I mean if Mary hadn't been as ill as she was I would ago I would have left her but then when we found out she was as in as that man she was dying and when she died somehow the thought of getting in touch with Eileen was wrong and I don't know I thought maybe she wouldn't want to know anymore anyway hey what is this but last time I took you out I seem to remember that I bent your ear for three-and-a-half hours then you don't need it all again no but I think you might that'll be it wasn't meant as a criticism let's have another one I in there will please Cheers excuse me [Music] [Music] it's the old lady that was in hospital she's just died today [Music] City chief ed marrying a copper I go yeah don't you know it's all longer mate that's nice ago he's not gonna come out of there thank you see and I be mad he's sadly not stupid and I'll just have to give him a lunch hello mrs. archer its Detective Inspector frost do you remember I was here a couple of days ago well what do you want I'd like a quick word with Ronald if I may pose you better company won't take a minute in the garage I see you've had a chain fitted get someone in did you he did it last week oh you haven't had it fitted long then I just said didn't I [Music] she's gone out he's there all right got that machine of his on does that mean that he can't hear that's what it means yes does he often over the machine he has it on whilst you think he goes out there his bloomin workshop spends a lot of time out there does he I think he'd live out there give another chance maybe he's got a young lady on there hmm still not very nice for you is it then old lady in here on her own you could have an accident couldn't you mean you could trip over something he wouldn't know anything about it strange really he doesn't strike me as that sort what do you mean that sort well everyone I know speaks very highly of it says he's very caring [Music] well note I don't come in here I want you bicker miss old ladies in this bingo club oh yes can't do enough for them kami but who have to sit here twiddling our thumbs night after night oh you're here are you why are you bothering my grand she's not well she's an old lady it was you I came to see her she needs to go why what do you want I just came to tell you that I think she's gonna be alright mrs. Haines well how do you mean alright well she's recovered consciousness the doctor says I'll be able to talk to her first thing tomorrow and as I know that you've been very worried about right well I just dropped by and let you know yes sorry if I butted in it's alright I'll find my own way out oh no it was just one thing do you remember that I told you I found a piece of a jigsaw puzzle down the side of mrs. Haines's chair and you told me that you had given mrs. Haines jigsaw puzzle as our present do you remember telling me that ago yes yes of course I do well when you gave that little present to mrs. Haines would that have been on the first day thinking about my gran it's why you see I found some wrapping paper in the bin and yes it would have been actually when I call to collector that's odd didn't find any trace of a jigsaw puzzle except this you know this one piece yeah you wouldn't have found it because I took it back you took it back what would you do that well to tell you the truth we had a little tiff oh you had a little tiff what you mean you had a round no no not a round no we just um to be honest with you she turned on me turned on you Oh how's that I don't want to talk about it if you don't mind we just had a slight disagreement your temper did us right right I lost my temper oh wait did have a temper list careful now gran you get me into trouble Doh Fiona no don't you worry mr. Gould no after what your grandmother's told me here tonight's a good job you're not on my list how do you mean what has she told you tonight well you told me that you were in your workshop on both nights in question and you said your grandmother could confirm it well I mean I realized now that we've only got your word on that I mean you could have popped out for half an hour can you as I say you know as you're not on my list that's all right did you tell me that both your parents had died in the car crash Bobby told you Ruthie not then mrs. Archer she wasn't married oh she gave him his father's name then she dumped him on me when he was three months old why would you tell me they were killed in a convent because he's ashamed of it realize your was Adelaide come on now gran could have been very easy for you mrs. Archer could it we'd heard middle-aged woman on her own bringing up a baby like that but all the thanks you get firm with him with you he was nothing but trouble didn't spare the rod a he need you I hear that you tried to set fire to your school now why did you do that hey why would he do that mrs. Archer yeah what he said his favorite teacher bond him out in front of the class many books moaning upset him I never said that it was name it was them they said as them Ronald what do you mean by them what do you mean by them mrs. Archer report negative that woman he saw what woman is psychiatrist the one that said constantly seeking the approbation of his elders was that the one I wonder what she meant by that Ronald when's your mother's birthday don't lie Rand March the 26th right that's right yes March March the 26th March the 26th mrs. Haines was attacked two years ago in Plymouth an old lady was murdered on March 2 26 what do you make of that Oh Lord oh I don't know I don't know do I you miss 'dear domani also she looks very nice she was a cart [Music] No don't say that great don't say that well what else was she the dirty little talk to and yet working on my mind this interview is now concluded at 10:15 a.m. thank you mr. gold got to go with a sergeant here's your coffee oh I'm sorry mr. frost well well well mr. mrs. bright coincidence do you weekly shoppin are you mr. frost yes that's right mr. bright I'm doing the shopping incidence I'm sorry oh no it was just that I was thinking just then I'll just need your absolutely right you know about my garden it is too much for me so I've decided to set up a booth hmm Oh we'd hate to think we were instrumental in like you're selling the car just because the ashtray was for wooden with Miriam I hope you would yes we would it's not just that there are other considerations as well all the house being full of memories you mean yes yes there is that but I was thinking more about the subsidies that's upside us Oh the whole road is sinking I'm surprised you surveyor didn't tell you about it okay well I won't keep you good people Bob you'll do [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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