Runner misses home plate & Brewers use loophole to review it, a breakdown

there was an interesting replay review some gamesmanship a discussion in the brewers versus white sox game last weekend and i find it interesting so i'm going to talk about it milwaukee's up four to nothing and this one's brought to you by seat geek you go to seat geek you use code john boy you get 20 off your first order any sporting event concert you want to go to anywhere with seats that you got to pay for you get 20 off so the 3-1 pitch from burns who's having an amazing season is put in play but wong can't come up with the ball so you got to run a run first i mean it would have been a nice play it kind of eats them up but you do have the runner on first the next one is just a little dribbler down the line we're gonna pick it up we'll check the runner all good okay all good so now you got two on and no one's really gotten a full hit yet and then another bloop and yelly can't come up with it and that's still not a hard hit ball so you got bases loaded man on third man on second man on first no one out in a bit of a jam nice pitch for strike one fastball away cutter right down the middle for strike two goes for the swing and miss curve swings barely hits it up the line another dribbler throw at home he's safe what happens is the umpire's supposed to be watching the runner's foot but instead the ball starts coming at him so naturally he's looking at the ball that's about to hit him and not the runner's feet and you can see him kind of just say safe i'm going to guess he stepped on home plate because normally 100 percent of the time they just step on home plate there but he didn't actually see him step on home plate because the ball ricocheted and hit him which i'm fine with now they don't challenge it right away they have a mound visit which gives them a lot more time to look at the replay and they say hey fix your hair real quick make sure you look good because we're about to pull an appeal step off the mound and throw home and appeal at home and the umpire says time and he thinks he wants a new ball no burn says no we're appealing that he steps he says well okay safe and then he looks he's like i got him at safe and then council's gonna come out and he's gonna talk to him and he's gonna tell him i think he missed home plate and i think it's interesting that he says i think because by this point they watched the replays they're positive he missed home plate but they're acting like it's a guess which is weird and you're like well i had him safe and he said well can you check on it and he goes to the crew chief he says i think he missed home plate now the crew chief says but you had him hitting it and he says yeah and he said well we want to check on us okay let's check on it maybe the home plate umpire okay let's bring it out maybe the home plate umpire knows that hey i wasn't really watching because the ball was coming at me so let's check on it or this is a legal replay but yeah he definitely missed home plate and then never touched it and home plate just looking lonely right there all by itself and this guy says safe and he says no out he says no safe and he says no out that's out no that's safe so these guys are debating it pretty hard and then they say it's out and he says i told you out and he's like oh how he says larry says hey come here real quick hey you why don't you come here real quick and council's like he made a mound visit you can't then have a replay after the mountain visit and they say well no he didn't he had a replay on the appeal not the play and louise oh you sneaky what what uh hold up what confusion galore counsel says oh are they on to us and he says hold up time out real quick i worked in the front office with joe torre and we put in place that you could not have use a mound visit to stall so real quick what this is interesting tony russo worked with joe torre in the front office when they implemented replay and they saw all the ways that it was getting game because you only have 20 seconds to challenge a play now they didn't challenge that he missed home plate in that 20-second span they sent a guy to the mound to do a pitching visit and that gave them more time to look at the replay then they appealed then they challenged the appeal it does seem like a huge loophole because the challenge how baseball wants it to be is it has to be so blatantly obvious that you can see that it's wrong in 20 seconds you can't just go fishing for stuff wildly so i don't know in some parts of my head i feel like this is legal and some parts of my head i'm like that's definitely a loophole you bought yourself more time and larussa is telling them he's saying i thought that we implemented something that you cannot challenge a play after the mound visit you have to do it before the mountain visit the umpires were like well i don't know i mean that seems pretty in the weeds if you say you work for the front office then maybe like we can get together and discuss it so they get together and discuss it like anyone know what he's talking about and he's like this is let's let's figure this out council's like what is he complaining about now and then they come back and they're like it's fine and he's like no i i swear there's a rule that says you can't do that i'd like you to call new york and ask them so they get on the phone with new york and this is just a rule book check and the fans were like what the hell is this all about what's going on and they get there and then they say hey tony yeah no rule says that's illegal uh that's totally legal and he's like okay well uh seems messed up but we'll continue the inning continues and burns walks the next batter and maybe that's the great equalizer in all of this they get their run then he's going to throw a nice strike a nice strike and a really nice curveball for the second out of the inning look at that break it just dives at the end beautiful then he's gonna get anderson to fly out and escapes the inning only gives up one run that's the only run he'd give up in the game good job by them this video was brought to you by seat geek go to seat geek go to sporting events go there get confused because mlb doesn't actively tell you what's going on when there's a replay and they should but they don't but you'll have a nice seat and you'll have twenty dollars off because you use code jomboy when you bought it

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Length: 6min 8sec (368 seconds)

Published: Tue Jul 27 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/DapperBackshot]

Great video by by jomboy as always, but holy smokes does TLR give me the creeps. I’m glad we won’t have to see him again for a while.

[u/themosey]

Did LaRussa pull “I know a guy..” come on!

[u/DumpEmAht]

I fuckin' love Jomboy.

[u/TheMainEffort]

My understanding is that the appeal was required. Essentially, the brewers were not saying mancado was forced or tagged out, they were saying he was out because of a baserunning infraction

Basically he was out because he left the field of play without actually touching home(he skipped that base). Because of this, the brewers had to appeal to try and get him out on the infraction, and then they could challenge their appeal to check if he did in fact skip home plate.

If Pina had ran up and tagged mancado, then they would have had to challenge normally, because he was tagged out.

[u/dlxfuentes]

Sort of a baseball newbie here, what's the appeal in this situation? He's saying they reviewed the appeal but I'm missing what that is exactly.

[u/Smutt23]

No loophole to get the review that was standard how you appeal a base running blunder. Burnes did not throw a pitch yet, appealed the base running mistake, umpired ruled and they challenged the umpire ruling well within the 20 secs allowed