Rob Cosman's Live YouTube Workshop Episode 6

we good we are live just one moment waiting for the video feed and yeah we are we are live good to go you're good to go hi folks no no hi folks good yeah we're good welcome this is our sixth youtube live workshop this is fra say this is Saturday April 19 if you're in Africa Luther Friday April 24 everybody else sorry about the mix-up really excited about what we're doing tonight I can't believe it into this the first one there's gonna be um workbenches a lot of people just getting into hand tools first thing they recognize is you have to have a bench there's a lot of stuff out there about various benches and I'm going to share with you what I know little I know I've made a lot of benches I probably have made somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 of them I really enjoy one of my favorite things to do if was more profitable I might still be doing it and I got all of my information from hand tool experts guys who actually earned a living building furniture primarily with hand tools or at least they incorporated hand tools a lot so it's not theory and conjecture it's actual experience oh sorry not you don't me Oh can somebody go turn that that fan off so that it's not quite so loud anyway I want to start the way I want to do this I want to start with my original bench which is over there I'm going to show you some of the features and will show you what I discovered didn't work very well then we'll talk about this bench which is my current bench so I can't see improving on it because I had 30 years with that one so all of the issues were dealt with in this one and then we're going to talk about our economy bench this is gonna be the bench that for people who are just getting started this is a fantastic bench in fact we designed it how many years ago five or six years ago and we use it in our classroom now because it is it's just a great bench I don't mind saying before we are in getting started I also want to bring to your attention to Purple Heart and if you've already heard this bear with me we bring in 28 combat wounded veterans every year we bring them into our shop here and we treat them to a week of very intense hand tool workshops or workshop we cover all the basics learning to sharpen hand planes and chisels freehand all how to set up a hand plane how to use it so that you can make a board flat smooth square on all fours all six surfaces we literally teach them the skills that they need to build a piece of furniture with just hand tools quiet woodworking or peaceful woodworking whatever you want to call it no dust no danger no noise we work them hard we're in the clutter in the workshop at 8:00 in the morning and we stay here till 11:00 we bring our meals in that's a Monday to Friday it's called training the end that our next class is April 6 that's right on top of us I am Barney May 6 so we are scrambling to get the shop ready this will be the first time we're teaching it here in New Brunswick every time we teach the class we have seven civilians who come as paying students and seven combat wounded veterans as I said the veterans come in as our guests we cover their airfare their hotel their meals we send each vet home with approximately two thousand US dollars worth of tools so they can continue to do this at home if you would like to participate if you would like to donate to be part of this I do this because of the way it makes me feel I feel I have an obligation a moral obligation to help these people who have put their life on the line and now are living with the effects of that for the rest of their life and they did it for me they did it for you so I'm not begging for money I'm saying if you would like an opportunity to give back and you want to do that go to our site Rob Cosman comm under the PHP purple heart project banner on the top left the drop down menu it will tell you all about what we do is also a donation page please don't donate through youtube they take 30 35 percent of your dirt of your donation which is way too much do it on our website and the only thing we lose is the credit card fee all of all of the monies collected we do not take any anything out of that for administrative whatever all of that is either buying plane ticket for these guys paying for their hotel contributing to the tools of the meal so whatever happens to be so I want to give you just a quick tour where we are I even each every two weeks when we do this we give you a little bit of an update we're a little bit closer you got enough so because we need this to be wheelchair accessible a lot of the guys are on wheelchairs we had to take the bathroom and convert it so we're in the process how far can you get that's the extent of it come in the room come in the room so they can see it so my wife picked out the colors it's kind of a mint green it's very calming apparently doesn't calm me down any trim is almost done the floor we decided last time we would have told you this building had a piece added to it so there's a two-inch lip right here and I just kept thinking sooner or later somebody's going to take a header on that well we're in here working and that corner is two and a half inches low so we're having to shim the benches and said you just can't live with that so Tuesday they're coming in between you Tuesday and Wednesday are going to pour a new floor that will level it up with this right into the bathroom and everything will be just perfect so next time we film this this room should be finished the lighting is all in the drop-down power supply on top of everybody's been should be done floor will be done it's going to be it's going to be what are they doing it with it I forget ceiling it was there it'll be a light gray color anyway so that's that come in here and I'll show you what else we've been doing we we have to get six more benches built so we have spent the last couple of weeks working on benches reason why the topic came up so there's a bunch of the trestles there's a bunch of the stretchers there's a bunch of the tops over there we'll talk about that as we get a little farther into this all right super Dave said what you do take a break after he left yeah yeah well if you get your butt back up here so we get something done your wife has been trying to pawn you off on me and I keep saying send them special is Luther on I haven't seen him I'm Ed's on how are you got a second a little shout-out to my friend the Med down in Southern California who's coming to the workshop in October by the way if you're thinking this might be interesting this is a the response that we were getting is second to none I've been doing this since 2001 and we would never even have people inquiring about the next class before the first class was done but we already we have 14 civilian spots available for October October 7th class has one spot left that isn't paid for and the October 14th class has nope no there's two three three and I think there's four so there's four spots that are already sold so there's three spots left on that one so that class will be filled before we even teach the one in May back to a mid he's he's been our supplier of beautiful wood sent me a box of some of the most incredible woods for making marking gauges he's got some chisel handles that we're gonna actually start selling and they're just gorgeous all right you guys keep the questions going because I kind of want this to be I want this to flow based on what you guys want to know but let me let me start by promoting something oh I didn't like one more thing so we have t-shirts these are our Purple Heart t-shirts I've got the really cool logo on the left breast and on the back would is good I want to just so we have them in small medium large extra-large and double X large and I want to tell you something the sizes are a little bit small we have 3x large now two coming okay double your Tuesday Wednesday so I I'm five foot seven and a half a 180 pounds and normally were an extra-large but I took a large but fit fine but when it shrunk after being washed it's a little snug so if you're if you're over 200 pounds you definitely need extra large maybe even a double X so just bear that in mind because we've had a lot of if you don't even you've been waiting we ran out of larges and a lot of those people I've called and converted them to an extra-large all right now on now we'll get benches from here on it so this book called the workbench book by Scott and this Taunton pressed those are the guys that do fine woodworking is probably in factors out of them it's the best workbench book that I have ever read her head and it's where I got the ideas for my bench it it gives you the plans now they're not terribly detailed but it gives you the plans to build probably eight or nine different types of benches there's the shaker bench there's a Frank clause just a second I'll count them out and see Ian Kirby bench which is a simple very simple bench there is the Michael fortune bench which I now use a part of that there is the Frank Klaus bench which is the first bench I built that's what we're going to talk about that's how I'm right I've made some changes since I miss one no that was just that was probably the most detailed one maybe and the shaker bench which has a lot of cabinets underneath okay and then it goes through and it just talks about various features really good book excellent if you want the ISBN number if you want to find it Jake can hone in on it I think this was published back in the yeah I assume it's still in print should be if it isn't who's the author Scott Landis published by Taunton press okay so I was at BYU this is my last year and I wanted to have a decent bench I had been working on what they have in typical schools which would have been a bench that had a advise on each corner that means while you're working somebody else is shaking the bench not a very not a very successful way of having it I had actually I was a teaching assistant so I had I had a bench to myself but it still had a lousy vise and if you're stuck with a lousy vise that's any kind of a vise that is attached to the bench and it has two bars underneath that guide it whether it goes in the problem with that is you always have if you want to if you want to put something in the vise take did you actually that stuff is binding it up terribly Megan we you go out and get some two pieces of bench bench hardware you know that our good stuff one of each yeah the big heavy branch I drew this in the bottom that we sell wrapped up in bubble wrap and and one of the one of the shoberg ones so if you have that traditional style of ice you can only put your board in so far because you've got bars underneath there so you clamp it in like this and people's reaction is always in order to tighten it up they tighten it even more and if it's not loose they tighten even more well that's all that does is cause the thing to Rack that means it's going to twist like this and this side is gonna wiggle loose and it'll only be tight on the inside nothing worse than sawing and having that thing vibrate so what I figured out was I added a new jaw that's supposed to be waxed more the glue I added a new jaw and the jaw tapered so it went from the backside was would have been perpendicular to the way the vents closes but the inside would be thin here and it would get thicker out toward here so now when you put your and I ran it way out here so as you tightened the vise up it would get tight here first and then as you continued to tighten it and as it would rack it would eventually come in and get tight here so at some point it would be holding the board secure all along its width and that satisfied me for a long time however it wasn't the best so I decided to build Frank Clauses bench now for years I thought it was great there's a few things I noticed right away and the first thing was that I didn't pay attention to the dog hole spacing so if you look at these no questions know everybody just enthralled with what we're talking about for now yeah we got anybody out there yeah we have around 250 right now okay remember we show any t-shirt sales we shout out their name and in any donations as I mean we're gonna we're using these live things as a means of raising money for a Purple Heart project Jonathan Jonathan said what should you use to lure get your vice with whatever Jake didn't use he put some what did you put on there with what in it because it seems it's tighter than I would I would if you put any if you put anything that stays wet it's just gonna attract dust so graphite would probably be a good idea but then it gets on your hands so I I would just put a paste wax and then wipe it off did you wipe it off yeah can you um we always have to wipe the wax off can you just hold a second your microphone battery died I just need to replace the batteries we have helpers yeah just just two of them please Megan is Jake's wife John just so you know it's not your microphone it's my mic it's mine it's my it's my receiver yes tell me when you're back good yeah we're good all right sorry okay where were we someone about a vice yeah you got to wipe the wax off if you leave the white girls oh it just gets all all caked up anyway so let me let me share with you what I thought was good and what I didn't like first of all this is called the skin oh yeah so let me let me just give you a little bit of a background on the bench if you think about who were the most prolific hand tool experts of the last 50 years I I would say three I'm gonna give you three meaning the alan peters you may not know as well but alan i think was the best designer craftsman over the last century he's my mentor Frank Claus who's still alive and Taif RIT who's dead and these three guys are really represented the pinnacle of hand to a woodworking Frank's known for his dovetails TAFE rid was known for his hand tool methods Ted went at both those gentlemen went through a traditional European apprentice program and all three of those guys used a Scandinavian shoulder vise for supporting their work when you're dubbed ailing and some form of a tail vise so I get these questions that's all one with this roubo bench I hate that thing I got stuck working on it once over in England I was doing so terrible vice terrible bench could not stand it and then I'm gonna hear all the hate mail now because everybody loves it but no that's not the bench that I would choose and I'll give you some reasons as we go the first and the biggest reason is with the scanning of the Scandinavians shoulder vise you have no obstruction there whatsoever and if you want to make this vise a little bit longer you can make it as long as you want when you wind that in it presses across the entire width so your board does not move on any corner holds it securely you have to have a little tail so the vise jaw right here has a little tail underneath here and that's what keeps the thing from flopping like a propeller when you're spinning this it's designed to have a little bit of side-to-side slop or horizontal slop so that if you put something in there that's not parallel uniform thickness you know parallel facing back it will still hold it firmly but you don't want any slop like this and I'll show you how we've solved that problem we're also going to tell you about it I think this the biggest feature is you have no obstructions down underneath here and you're pressing across the entire width of the board nothing moves rock solid this big arm is a little bit complicated to build now when I built this I was somewhat limited in the materials that I had so they had called for the top to be a full 3/4 of a full three inches thick well I didn't have that much material and I couldn't understand for the life me why you would need it three inches so mine has been surfaced probably five or six times and I'm down to an inch and a half I think it was inch and three I can't believe it but it's probably an instance recorder when I started and you could you could you could flex the bench by pushing down when you were planing on one end and then that's when I realized wow they were right it needed to be that thick go back here for a minute for the tail vise there the shoulder vise I got a couple questions - you could finish this but okay so this this piece this arm really needs to be robust this is not big enough again it's all I had this is two almost two and three-quarter by three and well it was three and three-quarter on my new bench or my latest bench it is a piece of maple that is three and a quarter by four so I really beefed it up because this thing would flex you know you didn't have to tighten this very much in order for this thing to really flexed now it's supported just a couple of bolts here that go all the way through no they don't they go to about here and you have to have them on there in order to keep this joint together I had questions in case it's so the first one was how do you feel about a Moxon vice for joinery mo XO yeah you know I'm really big on convenience and that's not a bad feature if you're trying to adapt a less than desirable bench a mocks and vise is essentially it has two screws one on either side and you tighten them up and it squeezes your board in between and that would certainly suffice in certain circumstances but as far as having I like to have my bench so that everything is just really easy really convenient really fast and that's why I don't think you can beat this but certainly that marks an attachment and for guys that are getting a little bit older and they're having a hard time bending down it's nice to be able to raise that up too so that's another big feature of it so yeah I mean if that's what you want to use and that's that is a that's a worthy that's a worthy and useful adaptation to a bench sorry over hold your work what else so I'm sure you'll who asked that that was Blake Mackeson okay Blake oh we had a donation thousand dollars from John Davis give me really for the Purple Heart project thousand dollars thank you John you really appreciate it you know forget to mention that so thank you John I'm sure you'll tackle this but how do you accommodate if you have a solid top workbench made of fur or say pine how do you accommodate the expansion and contraction from humidity changes while fastening the top to the leg assemblies okay I'm gonna Park that when I'm gonna take that one just a little bit farther down I want to go through this because we're gonna talk about that and another quick question is why do you have both square and round yeah that you're a little ahead of me two on that I'm gonna get to that one too all right that's all part of the what was wrong with this bench so just a quick recap this arm needed to be a lot heavier than it was the bench top itself need to be a lot thicker than it was and trust me I would never believe that you needed something three inches thick but you really do you want this thing to be rock-solid when you work on it there's nothing worse than pounding on something I often have to work on some of the cheapest benches you've ever seen when I'm demonstrating and you you pound you know you're you're pounding with your chisel nothing is bouncing back terrible you just really solid really solid foundation this is this is your reference table everything you do is the quality of it is going to be depend upon the bench how flat is it how stable is it and that will work its way all the way through your projects so do not scrimp make sure you get a good bench make sure you build a good bench okay so let's talk a little bit about dog hole spacing so when I built this and I if you have any more questions on this part of it I'm going to I'm gonna introduce to some new hardware that we had made because the hardware that don't actually let's finish this the the biggest problem with the hardware that was available that's why I think feel sticky that is no wonder I can't move it enough to take that off with some lacquer thinner paint thinner the hardware that was available was so sloppy that when you wound it out here the thing would just go up and down so you'd be sitting in here and you would be trying to keep your board if you've watched me cut dovetails you know how I set that in there set it to the top will be flushed at the top of the plane and then wine to close like this well that job would be just drooped down like this and as you would tighten it and it would write itself it would lift the board up and it was just a real pain and there was nothing you can do with it it was just really sloppy machining this what do we call this part a knuckle this knuckle I redesigned this and my friend Paul hatin up in Ontario who's a genius he makes a lot of the stuff that we he and I designed things but back and forth between us so I had the idea he completely turned into a product but the way we designed this knuckle was to prevent any droop but it would still allow for side-to-side slop maybe I will take this apart and I'll show you because we now offer this stuff we have it custom made and it's fantastic we also went with a double start thread I'll show you that over there so that was the big problem with the hard to hardware that was available I've retrofitted better hardware in this since that time and I'll show you the improvements when we get over there so that was a big issue okay I think I can leave that alone if I think of something I'll come back to it now the dog hole spacing I don't know how many times I could tell you that I would just just thinking that was going to tighten up and all of a sudden boom I'm out of movement I can't have no more movement here and I'm 1/16 of an inch sign here so that used to drive me nuts but they all read that was my dog hole spacing these things must have been 7 inches there are seven and eight the man inches apart way way too big I have since modified them and on this bench they are four inches apart and I moved this one up quite close so that was the problem and that was my own fault for just not paying attention to how important it was going to be so to try to command and to mortise out a hole in the in a bench that thick because this is a dog strip so this piece which is from here over is a full four inches thick and and you make this dog strip into one two three pieces so I took this section and using the dado blade I cut all of these holes and then when you glued it together it completes the hole and there canted by the way they have to be on a three degree a three degree slope so that when you squeeze a board between the two dogs if they're perpendicular the pressure will allow a little bit of slippage this way and then your board pops out so to compensate you have to have a three degree slope on this side facing this way it's read agree slope on that side facing this way so you can tighten it up tap it with a with a mallet or a hammer and bring it down tight to the bench but the spacing was wrong so I could not go in and I could not modify that by cutting out square holes so the easiest solution was to gwyn and drill them out and use the round bench dogs but the problem of those is all they have to hold them in place is a little beat bear a little bearing that's spring-loaded well it doesn't take very long and they've got a flat face so that bearing is always in the wrong in the same spot and eventually it just gets to a point where it wears a little groove in there and it'll no longer hold itself in place could be using which ones if they yeah actually a good point Jake so if I was doing it again or if you have a bench that needs to be repaired is it on this bench we we now have these and this is the shoberg round bench dog so it's got that wire that goes the whole way so that solves that problem and they've got a just a slope on the face so you can bore perpendicular holes because it's already compensated for in the face so that actually is a good solution I didn't have these available when I did this and I don't want to refit it now so the bench dogs at least at least to the first couple of feet I'd have these a lot closer and you can space them off a little bit as you get back here on the movable tail vise I had the first one way back here I would have liked to have had it up much closer but it interfered with the joinery and these ones traditionally they were put in there but I rarely ever use them I'm gonna turn the bench over I'm going to show you the tail vise and how it gets put together and why I didn't repeat it because even though it's traditionally it was that absolute pain in the butt to build questions no yeah what did Amon say how do you how do you keep your shoulder vise from sagging actually that's from Kirby how do you keep your shoulder vise from sagging well put that over there on the other bench please while you're thinking of that Tom Maxwell bought a t-shirt thanks Tom and George Adams donated $100 to the provider thank you George certainly appreciate that well we're gonna do one of these live sessions with them with them and the vets are here so these people can Kurt [Music] Tony Tony got it right he's actually on the right night scene Luther did that on purpose to you Tony he put it on the 19th knowing that being an Aussie or a day ahead or day behind tried to serve you Tony's a good friend of ours tony's helped us get to our project started way back when three way back when three years ago Tony and Luther were here in September we had a workshop and I certainly hope it comes back good friend thank you Tony what kind of glue I used what did I use I did this a little bit different I'm gonna direct that question a little bit later and the reason is this part of the bench was one solid piece of wood I would never do that again I now do it up in segments and the problem is that this thing you'd think it would stay flat but it does not this bench was built in nineteen in 1988 completed in 1989 we were in Utah so it was extremely dry brought it home I don't know how many times I had to take it apart and refit the device to get it to work I don't think six would be an exaggeration at all because you never wanted to take off too much so typically you're going to have you've got us everywhere you everywher you live there's going to be a cycle of humid and dry but the problem is that the years that it's dry you're going to get a year that it's really dry and the years that it's humid you're gonna hear this really humid so to try to think you're gonna be able to do it once it's almost impossible so multiple times I've had to go in and refit this never wanting to take too much off in the humid season to keep it from being to prevent from being too loose and the dry seasons so I got a fair bit of slop and there is some flex this is the traditional tail vise and I'm gonna show you how it's done we're gonna flip this over just so I don't forget that the I probably use Titebond but actually I don't think I did when when we did that one up and there were several sections glued together we used a two-part adhesive it's a boat glue so it's waterproof and it's a powder mixed with the water and I'll just little word of caution follow the directions you always put the powder into the water you never put the water into the powder put the water into the powder it'll never get mixed so you and it takes forever to mix you want to really have one of those electric mixers get all your container water and just keep dumping the powder in and letting it dissolve and mix up it's it's a it's a tricky stuff you got about an hour's open time but that's not really true because if you coat a board with a thin layer there's no way that you're going to be able to put that together in an hour you got maybe four or five minutes before it starts to skin over on the top so you got to be pretty quick the good thing is it's securing time so if you you your coat a surface get that other piece on it right away coat the next surface get that piece on it and then you still have lots of working time to get it squeezed together but you can't leave it coated and out in the open for very long or it just won't it'll skin over and then you lose your tack okay so I want to flip this over how are we gonna do this Eric rice donated $250 to the Pearl our project thank you Eric we appreciate it Barry see us about a t-shirt Thank You Barry wear it proudly okay so what we want to do urban this is a this is urban he's our urban cowboy he comes from Toronto he was Frick's best friend growing up was he's not anymore and he's just here visiting so you got to get on that end now what we're gonna do is now we're gonna move it over a little bit more and then we're gonna pick it up on this end up like this okay now that's alright now we're gonna lay it down like this then we're gonna move it over you know if you really mess this up we'll have a viral video on our hands all right I actually I I took those sections out Thank You Megan I purposely did that because a lot of times I wanted to use the bench as a clamping call when we're doing a chest of drawers so I went in and modified this so I could do that tell you a little more about that later okay let's so look at this so this is the look at how many times I wipe my glue off my fingers I thought I never did that but I obviously did so this is the traditional tail vise so what you have is a big square so these were put together Riaan first with with dowels there's some screws in there as well so here's the problem you had this piece right here has a slot cut in it this piece which is secured from here to here is going to expand and contract seasonally this beast does not it's not going to move in its length right so you get that to fit perfectly but at some point is going to bind same goes here this piece is going to expand and contract this way but the slot cut in this piece is not so I had to take this apart several times by removing this piece and this piece and go in and just scrape a little bit off of here and a little bit off of there and put it back together and try to get it just was it was just perfectly work and then only to have it bind again on me when things swelled it's we dovetailed this corners dovetailed this corners dovetailed there's somewhat of a half lap something-or-other going on here and the same thing over here but that had to be perfectly square this took a long time to build I mean you wouldn't think it but in order to get everything absolutely precise there's the there's the original screw that I used which the quality didn't really matter on this one other than the fact that it it moves too slowly that's the reason why that double star advise is so nice and I put leather jaws on the inside to protect the workpiece now the one thing that I am missing so on this one I've got a set of jaws here on the tip on the shoulder vise and I have a usable set of jaws here I gave that up for this wagon-wheel style vise but there's some huge benefits and we'll share that with you but that's one shortcoming on the transition we made now if you look underneath here what else do I have to show you so this piece of wood is going to expand and contract constantly so you have to allow for that so you can see how there's a slot cut in here so this is made fast out here this one has to be able to move so I'm not tight here that allows this piece to come in or go out and got a slot I've got a lag bolt going through a washer in it in a oval-shaped hole that'll allow for expansion same thing on this piece this used to this bench used to just sit on two dowels now I went in and modified this I'm just looking at this now trying to remember what I did part of the problem was that I didn't have this whole area this whole part was unsent unsupported so I went in and I added this piece to it just to give some more support there yeah trying to think of what else we did here's your here's your nuts and bolts that held the end cap on and again this this had to be made so that it allowed for expansion so these holes that that bolt goes through are larger diameter than the bolt itself so this one is made fast meaning if that's a 3/8 bolt that's a 3/8 hole if that's a 3/8 bolt it's probably sitting in a half-inch hole with a washer underneath it to allow for that seasonal movement see you'd never want anything to come this way because it's going to jam up your vise so all your movement is designed to go that way so the question is at me Frick if somebody's got something to say and I'm not thinking of it this side this little bench top was kind of a and I put it in there I don't know how much I actually used it but for planing up against on small pieces it's actually quite convenient Mac in fact I'm gonna show them that when we flip this back over there's your here's your here's your tail that has to fit in this opening so when this sits on top of the trestle it has to create an opening that doesn't have a lot of slop and that helps control that twist as well there's your threaded rod that goes back to here this keeps everything tight and I added another one down in there had that one and I think I added this one after the fact because it didn't take much to separate that joint now I put these pieces in simply because you'd go to clamp something like this and you'd want to clamp in farther and there was just a big open space so I added that in so you could clamp up against it the tool tray is made fast here so this is a ply would tool tray and the tool tray itself is going to get narrower and wider seasonally so the plywood sits in a groove cut on this piece and this as it moves this as it expands all the expansions going that way the bottom of the plywood bottom of the tool tray is attached to this so that's going to go farther into the groove and when it shrinks it's going to pull out of the groove so you had to make sure that the groove cut on this back end was deep enough to allow for that movement you could never have anything come up tight that's why there's a gap here so there's a gap there you always had to allow for that movement you didn't you're gonna suffer the consequences and when I dub tell Dad I went in just for a decorative a little extra strength but also dress up a little bit I pinned all those dovetails even on the bottom this was a refit that's why you see some stuff going on here I used some new hardware on there there's stuff that I had I said as I mentioned it was pretty terrible okay well let's talk a little bit about the base this is not the original base the original base was done with with through wedge Tenon's coming through here it was quite complicated well I don't like we can't walk down there because I still have that base we used it on another bench but I didn't have internal thick enough so the base was made out of about inch and 3/4 and even though it was sufficiently strong it just didn't look beefy so I switched to using this this is two and a half inches thick and it just has that right appeal but this came off of a bench that I used to travel with so while all of this work are our mortise and tenon joints double mortise and tenon so there's two Tenon's on the end of this going into two mortises in this leg it increases the surface area it really drastically changes the leverage on the joint makes it very strong but because this came apart and went together awfully often as we were traveling it was just a simple captured nut in here a bolt going through this end so I took that and I modified it to fit this bench and the trestle over here is designed like this it's got third leg on here to sit and support the arm portion of your Scandinavian shoulder base okay oh let's talk about the bench dogs so there's the bench dog it has a little piece of ash within a slot but the slot is also ramped so that there's a little bit of flex on there but the problem is again that they would only hold it in in position for a certain amount of space up in there once that got either below or above it wouldn't no longer hold it so I've improved a design I'll show you that when we get over there instead of flipping this over I'm just gonna tell you this it this is a really nice feature because you could bring that up above the surface and if you had to plane something really thin you could have that sitting there just 1/16 of an inch so it was it was a nice feature I kind of wish I'd put it back into this bench ok any questions on that traditional bench no well Bruce Bruce that's what your opinion on the width and length of the perfect bench but oh well yeah let's address that when I built this bench I thought wow that's awful narrow I mean I built it right off of Frank Clauses design so the actual working portion of the bench is 17 and three-quarter inches that's not very wide but then once I built it and used it you can't you can't plane out here you're I mean even playing this far away is hard you're you're really your ideal planing zone is about 14 inches out from this face you get up beyond that and it's almost impossible to do so I have never have wanted for a wider bench I love the tool tray I've had friends beat me up on that that it's just a place to collect junk but you know what it much rather having it falling into the tool tray than unto the floor and I that does offer some support on the outside something else that I didn't that I modified on this bench the outside portion of the tool tray I made it considerably thicker when I built my second bed actually how many other benches did I build I built one of these for Dave Tennant friend of mine in BCU now there's Nova Scotia Joseph has one that I built so maybe four of these I thought there was snow there was another one I built one for Ivar Neilson in Ontario and maybe from one more so I built several of these now that I think of it I forgot all about that but I beat this up made it a little bit thicker and just because it's you can see how much this flexes never like that so and and we also might we also when I if we can flip that one over I'll show you how we modified this to make it considerably stiffer now we got to actually move this out of here because we got to bring in the other bench and we talked about it but we'll figure that it when we get there okay so let's come over here couple questions yeah what's your opinion of the Paul Sellars workbench this is my favorite bench this I think is the end-all be-all for hand tool woodworking work benches this is the best and I go back to who were the real experts that for you know did this for the last 50 years and those three guys that I mentioned Allen Peters tey Fred and Frank laws all used this style of bench for a reason and I why would you want something any different now other people have different ideas and if you're into power more power tools and hand tools and you're gonna want a different style bench but it forehand to a work don't think you can beat this by the way let me give you the length on this it is 81 inches of working surface I can't remember what Frank's was it's in the book but that was there's always times you would have liked to head it a little bit longer but this was a good working length I've made them shorter I made them shorter to travel with and yeah what do we end up with on this one Frank Frank wants to know what it was well Frank wants to know about the height is there a specific or is it defend individual yeah this is 81 inches as well so obviously I stuck with that how Frank cause I think is about six feet tall and I actually have it and I'm five foot seven and a half in the morning I use a taller bench than Frank does so it's it's totally up to the individual I'll give you my height I'm thirty six and a quarter and I think that one's the same I prefer a little taller bench I'll tell you the two things to consider if you're doing a lot of planing it's nice to be able to lean it be on top of the plane if you're doing a lot of dovetail work it's nice to be standing up more upright I actually put feet on this bench so it allowed me to raise it up or lower it and how many times would we use the jig once once in fact I even thought about taking them off so maybe I mean I might change my mind as I get a little bit older but the thing to do is to if you have a bench now is just play with the height a little bit and see if you stick some blocks underneath it see if it's a little more comfortable to work but I don't think there's a standard other than that I just mentioned those two considerations planing and then some things like dovetails what height do you want oh you know what got another thing I want to tell you forgot about urban let's let's flip this over again so let's go you fastened the top to the legs or is it so well the way this was done this always was done is that there is a dowel hole here and a dowel hole here in the center and there was a dowel on the bottom and that was fine but we moved it around a lot so we now actually I put one bolt one lag bolt up through both trestles and just so that when we move it around you know we'd be out of wood show and somebody volunteer to help us the next thing you know they're lifting the top up off of the base so this solves that problem okay so we're gonna turn it up like this stand on its edge then we'll be able to flip it around again you ready you get the heavy end by the way okay now you got to go to you okay move it move it this way a little bit do you feel now go that way keep going you should feel it drop in I did no I didn't oh that was the other problem - you see how much hangs out over here like sometimes would be having to stand on my bench for whatever reason and that thing would pop up in the air so by fastening it down that solved that problem now what I want to talk okay so I'm gonna show you this again this is a really nice feature just having that little bench stuff in there doesn't get used the bench dogs get beat up but this doesn't doesn't this one doesn't get used very often so it was just nice to be able to plane up against something really thin okay so here's what we used to I use a bench lamp a lot and I had board holes in the end of my bench to put the bench lamp in but they really over the years wore these things out in fact I think I know that was on a different bench but you can see how this hole gets you gets used the most that's directly across how worn it is so to avoid that from happening again on this bench we made a sliding a sliding lamp holder it's nice and heavy and I made turn to mushroom this is just because this particular bench lamp its weak link is this rather thin piece I actually had to go in and put a piece of threaded rod didn't Nick I just had threaded rod put a piece of rod up in there drilled a hole put a nut and bolt in to hold it to stiffen that up and then it sits in the mushroom and it just gives you more surface area when it spins and turns okay so on the surface what do we do different we beefed up also what with the contrasting wood we beefed up the outside of the tool tray we I use a solid wood bottom but that's just cuz I wanted to dress it up this is bird's eye I put Frick you're not throwing out the questions well you can interrupt me all right interrupt me because I don't give me the question after we've already talked about it Paul ass who's Paul Paul Morrison is his name Paul hardwood versus softwood oh well definitely hardwood definitely hard wood your Brent is gonna take a fair bit of abuse not not intentionally just accidentally and drop things it's just yeah you have to have hardwood Beach was often the favorite but I think maple is the best it's it is hard without being extreme you know you talk about something like purple heart or jatoba you know that's like trying to plain a rock well that's right that's right my benches have never been sanded they are only finished right from the hand plane and that's that's a job to go in and resurface I might do I mean if you look at the that case you don't really notice it it's gonna say you can tell how many times we've reserved it based on how big how much difference there is in the size of the half can up here compared to down here but if server resurfaced it several times and it's a big job to go in and resurface that so the series that we just released on YouTube for a few years ago was yeah the resurfacing of that it's still on there now where we haven't finished yet fact you need to do the last three episodes okay we'll do that so definitely hardwood not softwood if you have to use softwood then you have to use what you have to use but hardwood is definitely going to be the preference so when I built this one the instead of using a solid piece that is going to be subject to cupping I have one two three four five six seven pieces that are approximately four inches wide by I had a bunch of ten quarter material so approximately is somewhere around two inches thick and what I did before I built this this is all by the way documented three-inch did I say four no the three three inches so when we built this because it was all filmed I would I would first thing I did is I I got a lot of stuff to talk about we're gonna go for a while don't write Luther here telling me to shut up we're at 50 minutes already okay have we lost anybody how many people do we have out there I'm showing around 3:15 okay come on 400 so when we built this I took how many extra seconds do you remember so we had at least two extra pieces we dimensioned it and then we stickered it up on the top of the shop and let it sit there for a fair bit of time and we had extra pieces yeah probably that way if you get a piece that's going to twist and after you've already dimension it you don't want that in your bench you want to have a stable as tough as possible now this is expensive this is ten quarter maple I think at the time it was ten or eleven dollars a board foot so you know you could put out a lot of money quite easily and in fact I think the material bill on this bench was almost $2,000 so I meld up all those extra pieces and then when we finally came time to building the bench we anything that twisted anything it was no longer flat we discarded we didn't use we took what we had left we milled it down to the final size so now it's squared on four surfaces cut the length now we had to assemble it and you want to assemble it so that when you have to replay knit to refinish it everything's going the same direction so I took each piece and I planed the top edge and I determine which direction I should be planing and I identified it so that when we assembled this and put it all together all those pieces were heading in their own direction somehow we screwed up I got one turned around so there's one obstinate board in there that always gives me grief when I have to resurface this but well when we did that when we do the very first time after we built it now there's lots of details to give here each one of these boards has two grooves cut on the face so if this is the board I have a 1/8 inch groove cut here and I have 1/8 inch groove cut somewhere around here and all of the referencing was done off the same side so if this was my face side the one that I just planed I cut a groove there's the table saw fence I I cut a shallow groove this way did all of the bore and flip it over and cut that one so now you have your board that has a groove on this side a groove on this side did all the board's then I move my fence over and I went in and from that same side I cut this one on this side flipped over into this so that there was no way that those things were going to get off they were all going to be perfectly centered or at the same distance from that same edge and then we went in and we put our splines and I made a mistake here I'm going to tell you about it we put our splines in and I only put that glued the splines in the same side of each piece so when it came time to putting them together you'd end up you didn't end up with two splines facing each other which would have been nightmare plus you didn't have to deal with that while you're trying to glue everything up so the splines were already glued in one side of each piece what the mistake I made was the splines ran full length so I put the glue in there and when we're trying to squeeze this thing together there's nowhere for the excess glue to run out it's trapped between two splines and nowhere to go if I was going to do it now I would have done it in sections I would have had spline gaps blind gaps blind gap all the way along there to allow a little bit of that glue to squeeze out we had a hundred clamps on here trying to close that gap and we still we we get a few gaps in the wintertime they open it up right along here it's closing up again because it's getting closer to the human time of the year so that's how we put all of that those pieces together and that pretty much doesn't eliminate but it certainly lessens that ability or that tendency for a thing to want a cup over time okay fire the questions at me while we're on these topics don't forget to explain your walnut accident strip yeah who said that Keith where's les already know so you see this strip right here this racing stripe when we built this bench we ended up with a crack right down there oh it was devastating this was my pride and joy when I first brought this thing home I would put a bed sheet over it at night when I was done a little bit crazy I know but I mean this was nobody was allowed to touch this bench and I can't believe it would ever end up looking like this and by the way the tool ramp the ramps in here which allow it make it easier to clean have to have a gap see just look at this cap it's an ugly gap but that doesn't that does not change the dimension this piece because the grain runs this way so it stays in sync with this but this has to allow for movement so I solve that problem in a really cool way I'm going to show you a boat over there what was I gonna talk about here Oh so anyway so we end up with a gap and what I'm gonna do with this gap so we already had an accent wood we had the the jaw was that was a different colored wood the the the pegs yeah that secure the dovetail the spline right here for this top piece that was mitered and I think originally I think then the end caps of the of the handles or that wood so I decided to go in and inlay this racing stripe well you know what that really came to work in my favor because when you set a piece of wood in the vise like this all you have to do is eyeball it get it parallel to that racing stripe and now it's level so it works so well that when we built this bench we purposely added that stripe in there for the very same reason and it's a great feature now we went in and I don't remember why we did this but we did it here as well just to throw a lot we threw a lot more contrasting wood in on this one that backboard is a mahogany the ramps are mahogany the tool handle of the vise handles mahogany that stripe is mahogany this was a piece of mahogany the racing stripe between Hagen II the bench dogs were so it just seemed to fit and I think that's the reason why we put that in by the way when we did it we were careful so this part of the stripe the grain is running this way so that's in sync with this piece can expand and contract the same this part of it the grain is running this way so it's in sync with this piece of wood so it's not going to change or fight it and the same thing down here this piece runs the grains running this way on that particular piece all right so first of all the design changes or the modifications that mean meant something the only thing we did different here is we went with a double start thread so here for example let me show you on this so I'm going to measure one inch out so to move one inch we have to go one two three four four and a half turns on this one with a double start thread to move in one inch we go one two okay so really convenient that thing just whips in and out it's so much easier plus it lessens the leverage is different that means that you you don't not you don't put as much torque on this arm because the same amount of pressure and you just get to a point where you apply the same amount of pressure onto matically the same amount of pressure applied to hold that over here is going to exert more force because of the extra threads that you have so great feature and I need to make a correction because I thought it was Paul but it's actually a local machinist friend of mine that that would did some work for me that told me about this double start thread so and I apologize because last time I didn't say his name I thought it was Paul but it actually was this fellow that lives up and just not far from us up the river okay so he also made this stuff for me and we Jake and I polished it all up so we've got the double start thread this was the this was the original job actually he made this Paul I learned another correction because it was Mike that actually came up with this idea or between the two of us we came up with this idea to end up with not having this kind of slop but still allowing some movement on the horizontal axis so like I said you can clack crap grab hold of a piece that isn't necessarily doesn't necessarily have parallel faces now this this big bolt our big nut so in order to prevent the droop I thought okay well we'll just instead of a shorten that we need along that so this nut goes way back in here so there's lots of thread contracts so when you're when you're up here or when you're all the way out here you don't have there's very little movement slop on there now I want to show you something I'm gonna sell you on something but I'm gonna tell you about it how I came about it honestly when when I was installing that nut and this thing was made milled out of a big piece of three-inch diameter brass rod which costs a lot of money so I had to drill a hole a fairly large diameter hole all the way into this piece of maple back to about right here and it had to be perfect so I'm using a three-inch sir - no it would've been three-inch how big was it taken you remember that's a three inch flange the rod this is half so it's probably two and a half inch so two and a half inch diameter hole so I'm using the two and a half inch diameter Forstner bit and I'm looking in there what the name of blaze is going on the hole was moving sideways like that so you look down in this thing and there it's all stepped all the way over stupid piece of crap and it was just a bad bit the centering point not on the center so it's sliding over so then I get introduced to these you these are fish bits and they cost a bloody fortune but these things will drill a hole that is so precise that you can cut I show this on a video drill a hole with it cut it open and look at it looks like somebody's gone in there and polished the inside it is so precise they're made in Austria we carry them on our site because we use them where this will be added soon fact right away that I don't even want to tell you what that cost and if you have to ask you don't want to buy them but they are the most precise wood boring bit that you will be able to find and they drill perfect holes and when does it matter when you're doing something like that I can't remember what I had to do to correct it but I ended up with a hole bigger in diameter than I wanted because of that so instead of that that not sitting tight in the hole it's the flange it's actually keeping it in position not that it's a big deal but that's not the way I prefer to work oh yeah here's a little tip see these rubber o-rings if you don't put those on every time this drops like that this will end up slamming into that and the sooner or later it'll break off so you just get these rubber o washers all rings from the hardware store put them on there and it cushions that blow so that's a huge saver we have it on all of our our vise handles now because we're just tired of having to replace vise handles the dog hole spacing as I mentioned and we kept the first one here and the first one here a lot closer I went with a wagon wheel style vise one of the disadvantages I you're not you have permission to interrupt me whenever somebody asks a question he's one of the someone asked what side of your sharpening station but I assume you'll get to that I'll talk about the sharpness but you need to bring it up so I remember to talk about it and what is the name of the boring bits they're they're fish you're out of us now fish makes Chinese ones and they make the ones made in Austria and don't be fooled they're not the same you want the ones out of Austria we have the show you but we have the we have the Brad points on our site and they're seven seven bits or 100 dollars crazy price but when you use them you'll be convinced it's like man these things are awesome those things are a lot more than hundred twenty dollars just just show the front there Jake on the camera now these are the new ones actually I wish I could get to my yeah show you I'll show you what I mean here's what I learned the hard way when you put a large-diameter a large diameter boring bit like that in drill press Jacobs chalk which is a three jaw Chuck on a round shank is going to at some point if that bits going to stall and the motor keeps spinning and it scores that and makes a terrible mess of it so I'll never buy these again so now we're only carrying the ones that actually have the flats on there so that your jaw registers on that flat and it'll prevent that from that scoring from occurring and these are called wave cutters and just it's why when you find something that works so much better than what has become the ordinary the standard it's just a great find and that was a great find we're over 400 by the way 400 what yours 422 okay so you guys need to fire the questions out me to keep me thinking I mean the some of the things that I might not think about because I just take it for again like for granted so a dog hole spacing as I mentioned I got them I got both of them close the front one and the front one on the movable jaw so that I can clamp something as short as three and a quarter inches yeah okay we're gonna talk about the sharpening station in a bit and what what adhesive do you use to attach the leather to the vise jaw just regular glue regular glue we'll do it regular wood sorry why not like whites calmer Elmer I use type on three I should be doing a commercial type on three any any any yellow or white wood glue will do and it doesn't it it'll-it'll hold it on but when it comes time to changing it it's not hard to get it off either so big advantage there you might want to size the back of the leather first that means take some glue mix it with 50/50 water and glue paint it on the back and let it dry and then glue it on and that'll prevent the leather from soaking all the glue into it which will make for a weak joint okay so we talked about the benchtop itself how many sections mean it still has a dog strip the dog strip is done separately so my dog strip on this one is from here to here and that way that allows you to cut these with a dado leaving it open on this side and then you glue it together now there's splines on all of this double splines on here probably the same thing on there I don't remember I want to talk about this but I'm gonna hold off for a minute all right yeah okay so you know I got to screw up something every time I do something it builds something and that dog hole is right on top of the the trestle underneath so it will not go all the way down so what I had to do is make a little short one and I had to make a little thing here it's broken off so that I could reach down I could put it down below but I could still get it up there to be able to use it I did the same thing over here this one is actually this one I managed to miss it enough but I was able to go in with the chisel and just load some of the materials that could do that Bruce wants to know do you use holdfasts as an option no no I never do I've never I've used them before never on my bench and I see people clamping boards down when they're chiseling if I'm chiseling dovetails and I've got my chisel on my mallet I'm not pounding like this and having the things slide down I'm pounding straight down like that there's no it's not moving anywhere you also have to remember that I was trying to feed we have ten children now but at the time I was building furniture for living we had up to six children and I'm trying to feed these people from what I can produce in the shop I had to do things as fast as possible and I still think only made over $5 an hour so they have to fool around with that and I've seen how pretty quick people can use a bench to hold fast but I've never needed it Allen Peters didn't use it so I didn't use it I know some people do and I have no complaints if they want to use it but I don't use some bench dogs okay so the problem with the bench dog was getting it to stay in place at any height so here's what we do if I was a little bit in genius it involves some ballpoint pens so I cut yes sacrificial ballpoint pens so I cut a tee slot in the bench dog and the way I did that is the first cut I made with a straight bit that went to the bottom and all the way to here the second cut was made with 80 so it to you in case you're wondering what it looks like if you want to see what about 3000 dollars where the router bits looks like in fact 3000 is probably a low number it's one of those it's like clamps one of the most expensive things in your shop by the time you're completely outfitted somewhere in here there's a little tea slot cutter yep looks like it's good you wouldn't want to go in there and make one pass with that because it's too hard to get it to clear the chips but if you go in first and do as I did which is cut your slot then carefully go in now it's it's a little bit tricky to do too because it's cutting all the way around so you got to be you got to hold that securely but that'll go in there and they'll cut that slot out for you and then I took a piece of bubinga and I made a t-shaped piece of Obinna if you can see that and it had to be obviously t-shaped but it had to be smaller than this T then I took I drilled a hole in the middle of this dog down about that beep one here and one there and I drilled a little bit of a hole maybe an eighth of an inch deep in in the tee at the same point then I took the springs out of a ballpoint pen two of them and I Ike impressed it what did I do I compressed it down into I put it in this hole and in this old and the bench dog and then I slid this over how did I do that how'd I do it prevent it from getting caught in the first one I did something I don't remember well mate I think what I did is I probably had something underneath here that allowed this piece to slide over so that see what you eventually want are those springs to catch in the little partially shallow holes in this that's what holds it in position keep from falling out so if I if I had a piece of metal thin metal slip though in there to hold that spring in place allowing this to slide over and then remove that piece of metal and then when you get it into position the the springs will hit this two little holes at the same time and I got a little chamfer cut on here so that it would it would allow it to go in but then at any height that holds its position will do a YouTube of making these I got a couple questions okay actually they're both from John first of all do you seal the wood with anything if so which would the bench top oh yeah if so is there specific cross product and process and he also wants to know if you like it super smooth or do you want some kind of grip on it no I'd like to have it perfectly smooth and I do I use urban do you want to go down there and find that tung oil you know where it is Jake you have no idea what you're looking for over there in the over here I got it I got it never mind I I've been using this oil for a long time somebody told me you can get it in the US I thought it was only available here it's made by a company called circa 1850 its tung oil I just love the way I love the way it feels when it's done I cut it about 50% now maybe maybe 20% with mineral spirits or paint thinner just because if you're putting it on a bench this big by the time you by the time you started over there and finish over here that's already gotten tacky but you you want a finish on it for two reasons number one you want to at least slow down the absorption of moisture and you want it done equally means you want it on the book all the way around and number two you want to prevent you want to keep it from getting dirty anyone don't glue to stick to it if you happen to get glue on it and there's some dirty marks on here so it hasn't worked 100% but I think on the bottom what I did actually sprayed the bottom just because it was more convenient and then I just applied tung oil on the face and on the edges and it really it really makes the joint comes out at night the joints come out nice I trimmed this all with Birds Eye after the fact so looks well I I I use I've I've had some I I've had access to some beautiful woods over the years I at one time back in the late 90s company and Halifax called maritime lumber no I'm not maritime lumber kept my name of the company sorry East Coast hardwoods they had just bought a barn full of bird's-eye maple that was cut in the 18 to 19 20 s northern New Brunswick it was part of an estate sale and the guy that owns the company called me up he said Rob this is the bet I've been in this business a long time so this is the best Birds Eye I have ever seen he said only way to describe it is it's polluted well I bought enough I ended up having a Commission to build a blanket box for somebody for his wife and I bought enough and a little bit more and when the stuff came in you couldn't set a bird's eye down anywhere without touching an existing bird's eye it was polluted it almost looked like a different species it was so good anyway I don't have any of it he's all went into somebody else's house and I finally said well why don't I save some of this so I use some of the best Birds I had to trim this out so that I had something pretty to look at when I wanted to so that's why all right so bench dogs make sure your holes are close enough together make sure they're candid at 3 degrees this way and 3 degrees that way on these ones I use Birds Eye on these ones again just for contrast there's a maybe even be able to see it a little bit better with a different two different types of wood that's a piece of bubinga by the way did you say the size of the dog holes oh yeah actually that's an interesting point so when I when I built did this I didn't want your day toes typical data that you buy will only allow you to cut thirteen sixteenths 13th no 7 8 7 8 I can't remember so if you go beyond 7/8 that means you've got to make two steps every time you cut it and you don't want this one to be tight this one to be lose this one to be impossible so what I did is I took my data set I put some spacers in so one pass would give me this and you really can't get much beyond it so these are an inch by 1516 your microphone went out again actually I'm still here here so you can keep talking but well just turn off okay and I also believe the camera on or the battery on the camera is about - well I just were having so much fun we'll keep going I'm not done I got lots of life left for me let's just fix this problem you guys are getting a live session when you expect yeah if the camera goes out we can replace the battery to come back but we just put that other battery on the charger so I'm gonna show along that one alas TV these call the same way no they don't tell me if I'm back on four can you hear me yeah okay we doing butterfingers okay are we good yeah we're good where were we bench dogs size them size of them so they're there lengthwise these are 5 inches by an inch by whatever I said 15 16 and I made these out of probably it's a mahogany substitute it's problem no no definitely not Spanish cedar it's probably soupy Lee or something like that and these ones are bird's-eye maple but they both work fine they get beat up over time and you can see the face that's quite beat up that's why you want a really hard wood so it's probably time to make some new ones of these and they get knocked around on the tour on the corners as well you want the face I keep this nice I jump furred here here and here but you want this face nice and sharp because you want to be able to grab something small this one's full of dust down there that's why I can't get that all the way down but you want to be able to grab something small so if you've got a chamfer on there you won't be able to do it as a slide over the top okay go back over here and what did I do different here mmm I made I made a I made a little different tab on this and I I cut it round up here on the top so that it would move and not jam up on me yes yeah and that moves nice and freely love that double start thread thank you Mike oh that speed that's awesome and that knuckle so well sure I'll just show you this real quick because Paul up in Ontario now makes these for us and we just got a shipment in there's actually two of them see this stuff is gorgeous I mean look at that it's just so well machined and there's the there's the knuckle so this would be see that so that gives you just a little bit of side-to-side slop but no slop no stop this way and those little brass rings are just in there for fun no these are not polished like these are but we did that ourselves with a buffing wheel and a lot of actually you probably did it yeah so this is this is for the shoulder vise and we do a separate one for the tail vise so on the tail of ice you want this slot to be really narrow because I want as little surface area as possible where the board is unsupported so if I'm planing something I don't want a big open gap that leaves the wood unsupported so I actually the new hardware this is the original stuff I think we're down below to interview a DMV out instance recorder but so the only difference on the other piece the tail vise piece is this is squared off and this is squared off so that it'll fit down in there and we shortened it - you don't need a big long not here you only need a short one I actually would even cut that I think the ones that we sell now might even be smaller this is on the inside by the way and and it's not drilled into there for some reason I think was just too hard to do it's sitting up the surface but I still have when that's wound out all the way I am I'm talking about the opening over there too so I have 5 and 3/4 inch of room on here which is plenty did he check in no John suggested that you make a video about how to make your bench you yeah we are going to yeah we are going we're gonna do that John we're going to a YouTube so when I when I die yeah some good stuff coming out here so when I built this one I thought well you know what I need lots of capacity on this and and I must admit that I sometimes when I'm cleaning the side of a drawer I'll put it in here so on this one I have five and three eighths of an inch capacity but I would rarely ever use that rarely and you're just leaning over a whole lot more I'm not a whole lot more but more so when we built this one I think we made it smaller I might be wrong yeah we're four and a half inches so you're a little bit closer to the work people have often said well isn't that in your way when you're trying to cut that just know it actually works very nice in fact often times I can rest on it right here when I'm doing it so not a problem but you don't need great capacity in here it's just it's not something you're ever going ever gonna use and there's usually an alternative way of doing it as well okay bench dogs shoulder vise I think we're done there this tail vise this is actually if that took me three day four days to build this took me four hours so what you have this is called oh I don't know why it's called a wagon wheel vise but it is so there are different types there's one where this stays put meaning this doesn't move there is a nut over here that as you move this threaded rod it stays in position and the nut simply slides along it I don't mind this winding out here it's not in my way I'm never working back there and it's a lot less complicated and the force from the threaded rod is directly behind the dog a moving dog as opposed to having it offset over in here and it's a lot easier to build so this block of wood is actually in no more than that because we took this piece so the first thing I did is I took this piece of wood so you can imagine this all the way down it's 4 inches wide cut the cut the 2 dedos in there and then glued this piece on ok then we took this piece of wood and we cut it right here because there's a there's a groove here and there's a groove here and I have two pieces of cocobolo that fit in those grooves just nice and I have a I have a groove cut on the side of this on both places but then I cut it in half so that because this has to be put together when it's all in place so there's the top half of this bench movable dog and there's a bottom half and if you look underneath I don't know if you can there are three lag bolts can you get underneath here you need some light there are three lag bolts one two three and after you put this in place you put the top half on the bottom half on and then you put the three lag bolts in and you tighten it up what's the matter so they're in it they're in it so when you squeeze it together it holds the cocobolo in the dog strip and I use cocobolo because it's naturally oily so it'll it'll it's self lubricates and it'll move along that track and that's the best way I could find to assemble this thing and have it so you can service it if you had to you can just take it apart pull it out now I put a piece of bird's eye in here just to dress it up a little you know let me see it and I put a leather jaw over here even though I really ever I rarely use this as a vice but you can use it I should well yeah over here I should have known I don't know why I didn't okay we can still do it fire away it's about mostly device first of all can it be installed on an existing bench or do they have to be installed during union which one the shoulder vise you know I get asked this a lot and and anything can be done there's nothing impossible you got to figure out how you're gonna do it need a little bit of brainpower there but you could you could modify that you could modify a bench slap this piece on one end so that you can secure this corner this is just a block of wood that sits in here we're gonna try to flip this over if we have time we probably don't but this block of wood is it just has to be fastened to this and fastened to this it's going to allow it to move remember this is going to go this way whereas that doesn't and this doesn't so I actually have it's a good question actually I have three splines three or two I think I have three I have three splines in the end of this piece no sorry I have three splines that are glued on the side of this Center core and I have three corresponding grooves cut on this piece that allow this to move this way but it stays flush at the top same thing out here so the wood installer wood splines like I cut I cut the grooves I cut it with a I cut it with a I had a custom-made slot cutter for the router bit and so that way I could reference up when I was cutting the slots in this down here in this face I reference off the top I then say the same setting I was you I used to cut the slot on the end of this piece we're referencing off the top over here and over there so when you put it together everything lines up you're trying to put three grooves in and get everything to line up it's all got to be done referenced off this or setting has to be the same so anyway so there's three there's three in there and that just works out perfectly are we really I don't care I'm having fun how many people 430 so we're not we're not losing anybody are you enjoying this how come the red lights not on high cuz he's not actually recording with the camera Mirko what's the event so do i I asked some of the enjoying this what there's a response well there's gonna be a little bit of delay so I'll read this question ok what's the advantage of that type of shoulder vise it seems like you're quite a distance from your workpiece and I can't imagine how many times that handle would hit me in the wrong place that's from Peter volcanus Peter you're too tall this is never this of course there's gonna be advantages and disadvantages there any vice you have but this isn't I don't even got to the you may have to make too out of this I have no I haven't even this has never been back up there's advantages and disadvantages the advantages of this so far away any of the disadvantages I put up with a lot as I mentioned earlier you don't need it very deep so you know if I'm cutting a dovetail in this go fast that moves this is perfect there's absolutely no disadvantages however what a lovely saw by the way did I tell you about this I can sit here like this I'm just perfect absolutely perfect not in the way at all don't be fooled by that now we and we cut that for we make this specifically for this lane so when this is closed I've got about an eighth of an inch left to thread so but you can also modify it with the thickness of your jaw too if you needed to have it a little more a little less okay so back over here any more questions Frick by the way what are they enjoying it yeah everybody said no but they got nothing else to do on a Saturday night so they're staying tuned well some of us have to hide Easter eggs remember that's why you have a wife so I'm doing that that'll get you in trouble yeah I know get me in trouble too so any more on the tail vise shoulder vise over there tale vise over here Oh for a left-handed person you just recommend reverse reversing yep yeah you definitely wonder you want to be planing this way see good everything good and I made a left hand advice for Ivar Neilson up in Ontario so everything was turned around does the witch never bug your threads on the wagon base no no never occasionally we think of it put a little bit of wax on there it's just it's so smooth these these ones that we sell these are $500 apiece are they worth it absolutely it just works so well now let's talk about a little more on this so a nice big dovetail on here just a chance to show off your joinery I love the way this looks I pinned it up here just for fun and make it a little stronger give a little extra strength to that top half pin I didn't talk about the tool tray or the ramps yet yeah someone wanted to know the width of the tool tray but just that reminder okay I'll get over there well to try to do two I turned it around I turned it around on this one the tail is on the arm and that I just didn't like the look of it I always like to have the tail this is personal preference I oh when you got two different thicknesses of wood I always like to have the tail on the thinner piece and the pin in the thicker piece so this kind of looks like a stubby dovetail you look at it so when I did this one I did the reverse the thinner piece has the tail the thicker piece has the pin same as you would find on a drawer typically your drawer fronts are gonna be thicker than your drawer side so and the geometry just worked out nice it allowed me to get them right in my on a slope without making this too small if you had too much slope you'd end up with a little be narrow spot down in here so and by the way I didn't want to waste bird's eye so I've got that piece of birds I was glued on so I could take one piece of Birds Eye and get get lots of lots of mileage out of it so that's got about a 3/16 of an inch bird's eye skin out here and on here and on here and along this face and along this end and even along this side of the bench so I I went the extra mile on that now tool tray so the tool tray on this one is 6 inches the tool tray on this one is 6 and a half I don't know why I changed it but this is plenty wide enough the ramp I want to show you this because I think this is really cool we don't have any Springs left in any of our pens around here so a by the way that's solid piece of birds are in the bottom and again I just wanted to dress it up even though it's a tool tree the it always bothered me that you had to have this gap because this piece of wood does not change dimension this way this gap is going to close and it open as this solid piece expands seasonally so everything is secure over here because you can't mess this up so all of the expansion is going to go this way and then it's going to shrink back that way so this gap is actually going to change seasonally so what I did I took the ramp I cut a slot in the end of it got a little chamfer on there took I made a little piece of I wish I could in there move it can't that piece of wood right there is sitting in a slot cut on the end of this ramp there's two springs in there in the slot so this piece of wood right here it can hardly point to it that little piece of wood in there is probably oh I don't know five eighths of an inch wide by an eighth of an inch thick sitting in a slot that would be deeper than that spring-loaded so that it stays tight to this and it allows it so you know when this thing expands some of that will come out of the slot and when it shrinks this gets narrower some of it'll go into the slot so it's always nice and tight and you don't have a gap there that cool any advice on leveling a bench on an uneven floor yeah yeah we ended up having to do that when we whatever we're teaching so what the easiest way to do it is the bore for holes in the far corners under underneath and put in lag screws large ones 3/8 of an inch at least and then just you can go in there with a wrench and just adjust the leg screw until you get everything leveled up and the lag screw will bite into a concrete floor so it doesn't move around you know I'm doing hard because you really mess it up now I bought I bought for the benches that we're putting out here I bought these Levellers to use can't remember where I got them so there's the foot and then what we'll do is we'll put a peanut will bore a hole on the bottom will insert it's not the right size yes well insert it well insert the t-nut up underneath and then that will go in that will thread up in there and there's a nut there's a nut on there so we'll be able to adjust it so that'll sit and that'll level it up okay what more do we need to talk about on here let me just give you a little bit of advice on here so there's three one of the biggest problems is when you when you put this thing together you want to have it as close as possible I told you about how we oriented these pieces so that all of the planning was going to go that way and we put double splines cut all the splines referencing off of the same face when we put this thing together I all I think all head do is go in there with a four and a half smoother just to clean it up a little bit there was no ups and downs this was this was impressively precise same thing here so after the core was done then I use a slot cutter in a router and I use that to cut three slots on the end of this corresponding with three slots cut in this piece and this is called an end cap and when I put them together three slots so when you put it on there just it just lines it up so it's almost perfect there's no discrepancy here whatsoever so for about the first two or three inches I glued all of this I glued now the back up a little bit the splines that you insert can be glued lengthen this piece because the grain runs the same way can't glue it onto this piece it has to be able Oudh to expand but I did glue the first couple of inches and that bolt which that this is actually a bolt it goes up into here so there's a there's a nut up in here I cut a hole in there put a nut in but that 3/8 inch diameter bolt is in a three inch hole there's no side-to-side slop that's put in place and this is fixed right here you can't have this gap change if this gap changed that's going to bind so all expansion must go to my right so by gluing this section having that bolt fit precisely in that hole there's no movement coming this way over here the rest of it is a dry fit over here if you can I actually use double washers too if you look down here so the easiest way to do this is if that's a actually think it's a 5/16 inch bolt is bore a half-inch hole and then I have two washers because the two washers will slide on each other without binding and it allow this thing to move just really easy same thing this is a this they're that knot is up in there Jake can you stick that up camera up in there real quick and see that or can you get right over here I just bored I bored a hole i bored a hole in here and then I wouldn't i chiseled a flat spot on here so there's a washer and a nut up in here and like I said it's a little over oversized hole so I can keep it nice and tight but still allows it to freely move same thing is a little bit different down here no no it's not so this is glue this is this is glued right to a boat here and then that's dry fit a same thing that allows this core to move out there and come back you know what I haven't done yet is I was gonna I was going to yeah I was going to turn some mahogany caps to put on there with a magnet just so they could hold them in place because occasionally you want to go in there and tighten those up they may loosen a little bit over time just as the wood shrinks underneath them ha-hi okay we'll talk about the sharpening station and then I want to talk about the base we're gonna have to we're gonna you know what our next that's what we'll do because we'll have the video already so our next live session we don't know when it's going to be yeah we're gonna do it on the economy bench I'm gonna give you a little teaser on that because it's a great bench to get started with and you need a bench to build a bench so my sharpening station I started teaching woodworking by 1999 we were starving to death I could not build enough furniture there weren't enough hours in the week I was busy all the time but we just could not make ends meet I think my last year of building furniture which is 1999 my gross sales were $42,000 $42,000 that was before I bought the loan that was including that's before I paid the power bill that wasn't all I had to work with I was feeding six kids starve to death doing this they were all skinny they did nothing to eat did we have six at the time when was Kenzie born yeah we did so I started teaching I figured the only people could appreciate what I was doing they want to buy it they want to learn how to do it so I got really serious about teaching it and I was teaching people how to sharpen this is may not be how this happened but I just noticed that the average person learning this cannot sharpen a bench height you got a plane blade you got your stone you're doing this recognizing you're gonna wear out your stone you have to introduce to this motion this motion and the process of trying to do both and make an absolute mess of it so if you move your sharpening station down low you can lean over the blade the stones move your pivot point from your wrist all the way up to your shoulder you can rock heel-and-toe while you're doing these little circles so you don't have to introduce a second motion to your arm you just Rock heel and toe and your feet it worked so where do I have it well there's my my knee there's the sharpening station so I'm probably two or three inches above my knee height not terribly comfortable so make sure you're by stones are cut really fast you don't you don't stay there very long but it is very accurate so I I made this one a little more a little fancier than this one this one's just held on with seat clamps all you need is a piece of plywood glued and screwed to a piece of hardwood cantilever it out there you want about a one maybe two degree slope so all the slurry runs away from your bench instead of against it I got a rubber sheet in here holding it any other questions about what did Tony ask me he asked him about the glue we covered that didn't they trees no it's and that asked that and she actually visits her parents and Bathurst so she she what she visits her parents and Bathurst oh really so she's like what's her name in that I know and that I do buy buy it wherever I see it because I learned a long time ago buy it when you see it cuz you may not see it again I've got some really cool stuff here we should do it we should do an episode which on would there's a piece of pink ivory I'd never seen pink ivory this size you see what it cost eleven hundred and seventy dollars now that piece was a what Jake another foot and a half two feet longer police a joins with 67 there's a piece of snake wood behind it and that piece of snake wood is two hundred and thirty dollars so it's expensive would buy it get it wherever you see it I will give you a tip focus up here on exotic woods exotic woods calm my friend Mel in Burlington Ontario has the largest the largest collection of wood for sale that I've ever seen his showroom is huge across the street he's got a warehouse that you could put ten of these shops into that is full of wood and awesome and the super guy absolutely salt of the earth great guy to deal with and that's from Toronto so that so our hero Joe check call Mel go see Mel he's in Burlington right off Appleby if I'm the QEW I think you turn I turn towards the leg on the Apple Google that's right google it who's your friend yeah Mel and Mel will ship all over the world so if if there's if there's awesome wood in the world Mel has it and he's willing to part with it okay so let's go down here and show you I'll show you what I did we're gonna look at the risers first Jake is a little bit messier than me so the reason why there's stuff all over the place it's him sharpening now I also need to talk about the bench slave we allowed to say that somebody will freak out okay so I you know I I fast I bolted this to the top as well because I wanted to be able to come in well what Oh last time it was so if I'm dovetailing and I want some extra height I automatically bring my bench up to almost 40 inches which were you know what this is really nice how long has it been since we lifted this thing up been a while so this is just this we got to start doing this it's a perfect height for dovetailing and and for showing off the bench because now we can see a little better underneath it so let's show you what we did here this is a yes it is it is because that that's why we have the hinges working opposite of each other so when you're pushing against that now I had to do the foot like that I had to round the bottom of the foot so that when it's in the flat spot you don't have that square piece sticking out there I wish I had blown the hold on a second all right so trying to find mahogany that was thick like this was this was before I met Mel so this is actually Spanish cedar which kind of has the same color but it's lighter and it's not a really strong wood but in these big thick dimensions it's fine so everything here is a double tenon so that means that on the end of this piece instead of one big ten and there's two with about a half inch gap in between so obviously there's two mortises in this so after is put together and the mortise is probably or an inch and a half deep I went in there and I pegged both and then the opposite ones are done that doesn't matter I just offset him for a reason I didn't want I didn't want the pegs on the same line you know there's if there's any tendency to split it that would do it so they're offset this one's a little closer this one's a little further down same thing on the bottom and you always mckitten ice and neat instead of having this piece the same width as this then then this ends up being flush but I'm allowed I was able to keep which makes it difficult to have that little cord around but you see by having that little probably 1/8 inch cord around and this piece just small enough that fits inside on the flat just a neater way of doing it and and I really like this style of putting it together so these stretchers are maple and then I actually we were already finished this I said now I got to add some bird's-eye so we took it all apart and we added a bird's eye skin to the outside the inside and the top is an on the bottom and if you look real close you'll see a glue line right here nice thing about a quarter round radius is it'll break that good joint so you don't even yeah hard time seeing it so this this let me just knock that out so I can show you what no no I don't want to hit it with a mallet dentist see if I can knock it out with this this is a great way to put something together so this tenon comes all the way through and you want it to be cut fairly precise and you need you need lots of material here to strengthen this that can't be too short so there's my wedge and the wedge is made out of mahogany as well and the taper on it is probably oh I have no idea maybe three degrees so when you put that in there and tap that in that is rock solid and look how fast it is easy to take apart easy to put together not such a big deal on this because that's probably the first time that's been come out since I built it but when we used to travel and we'd be going to a show you take a second to slap this thing together to take it apart what else not a whole lot on this we go down here I just I I just dressed this up a little bit when it came to adding this sharpening station on here put a piece on the backside I could put it whatever height I want so there's a rabbet cut right here and here and then you just tighten it so it that what's holding out in place is this piece and that piece there squeezing against this upright and that holds it where you want it I'm just gonna look up underneath here real quick and see if there's anything else that I wanted to mention oh yeah so if you go up underneath here can you see Jake so I remember I told you I wanted some extra support I didn't like the fact that that outside piece wasn't very well supported so I have how do they do this this piece right here is screwed fast here oblong hole oversized holes here here and here to allow this to move mortise into the outside of the tool tray and then you can see if you could see up in here there's three pegs three wooden pegs to support that so this piece adds a lot of support and stiffens up that outside of the tool tray it also provides support to the items these please Birdseye bottoms and they are screwed all along here sitting in a groove that is deeper than the tongue of the Birdseye that goes into them and that allows for as that gap as this core expands that way and closes the the gap or the width of the tool tray this bottom has to be able to go into that groove and pull out without showing a gap and I don't see anything else here that's earth-shattering these filler pieces just compensate for the fact that the core is a little bit thinner than the outside I don't know why they built it that way why they didn't just have that core the same thickness as this and I can't see that being a problem but it would have messed up this whole arrangement with the tool tray for sure any other questions how long have we been going to hours so so let me in closing let me introduce what we're gonna do on our next one because we're gonna do this part one part two so this is our what we call you can you make it over here this is our economy bench you've seen me talk about it before if you've seen any of my other youtubes hundred dollars of materials except for the year cost of the vise so what we'll do is we'll talk about the construction of this how it goes together we have a new video that that'll be for sale it'll be a download-only and it's Luther and I and then Jake and I finishing building the bench so we have it on our online workshop but it's 17 hours this is going to be probably two and a half hours maybe three we'll talk about the option of having a tool trade that we can add to it which gives you a chance to show off your newly acquired dovetails skills in fact somebody just emailed me and they said something about a French cleat for attaching that to the outside which is a good idea I'll play with that idea a bit talk about the shoberg vise so I'll flip this over and show you how it's attached show you how we build this sorry some changes that we've made we have built how many do we think there's a 30 we've made about 30 of these so we're kind of getting the process down I'll share some of those tips with you as well what's your appetite a little bit on it and then it's going to be right around the time of the starting of the workshop but the power with the vets so we'll we'll introduce that a little bit as well any final questions give it a second Jesse wanted you to show the teachers again Jesse D Jesse Jesse parentis from you dude so you need to know who Jesse is three years ago in March I got an email from this guy wanting to know where's my fine woodworking book Jake you know wanting to know if I had any saws for sale that I would sell at a discount because they had cosmetic flaws and why can't I find that anyway so as the story goes he told me about being a combat wounded marine and lived in a small pension but he said something that really clicked and he said ever since he got involved a hand to a woodworking was the first time he found any piece from the physical and the mental pain that he suffers from and that resonated with me because I had been a calm accustomed to teaching shoot 50 year old business executives they'd show up my workshop on Monday my week on works up because the stress tight as a drum and you'd watch this balloon to Flatow over a week and come Friday when it's time to leave they had stopped shaving they just hung loose they didn't want to go home midnight on Friday night I'd be kicking the mouse and I gotta catch an airplane you have to go home but totally de-stressed so when Jesse said that I thought wow maybe this is something we should be doing for these to help these combat wounded vets and that started the whole ball rolling and we reached out to help Jesse and to the generosity of people like Tony Martin down in Australia who really took over and helped it out and Luther big factor and I can't forget Bob Lepik who is was a great friend of mine that died not that long ago Bob's wife found out what I was doing barb and she gave me approximately $20,000 to get started to bring in the first group of vets so that plaque is gonna go right on there in memory of Bob lepak because this event is actually was going to be for him anyway so Jesse and I have been in touch ever since we've been down there we go down and visit once a year and it's awesome that he's there what do you want just wanted to show the shirts o to provoke them so there's the t-shirt that's the backside wood is good rub cosmic comm purple heart project which is a great little logo and yeah Jesse's my favorite vet and I can't I mean I wish I could name them all because Jo Jo which Jo's last name how can I forget that jo this is terrible jo bright who is from from so Southeast United States moved to move to Southern California and he's been really instrumental in helping Jesse and me and just great people awesome people anyway so there's the t-shirt job right job right but I do not read I just said I was Joe on there goes a great guy these are heroes these are really our heroes these guys did stuff that you just wouldn't believe and they did it for people they don't even know the least we could do is alleviate help them alleviate some of their suffering by teaching them woodworking sharing a little bit of information with them and give them some tools so they can do something to help keep these demons at bay so we bring these guys in and we have a blast and it is an emotional week that leaves us drained at the end of it but in such a great way that you just can't wait to do it again so for those lucky people who get to come and participate in this classes everyone that's ever done is told me Rob we came for the woodworking but we went away with so much more those spots in that class are coveted and they're gonna start selling out we're gonna try to figure out a way to add a 5th and 6th class to the year we're gonna do this year and see how it is and if we can and the response I know the response is there our are doing this for 28 combat wound invest a year is not even trying not even emptying a lake with a spoon it's far smaller than that but it's something and some of those guys like mark Oliver from Idaho has gone out and now bought a set up a shop himself to be able to provide this service to other vets so there's a lot of good stuff that's coming from this any final questions nope everybody just says great show and thank you for those who are supporting us financially thank you for those who are supporting us by helping us find combat wounded vets here's my last request oh just before you get there he wants to know yeah Jack Lane wants to know how many of educates our woodworkers besides Jake he counts yeah where's your dovetail Jake we just we just dug it out the other day where what can you get it so we just found this the other day this was Jake's first ever dovetail it was a shell are you oh you did so it's mounted none of them none of them but then of mice this my five siblings I was the only one that did it so this was October 26 2012 100% Jake's so that was this was a Jake's first ever dovetail so that was Jake's first ever dovetail and that was before we came out with all these new techniques and make it even easier it's actually pretty good I should put my glasses on so anyway so here's my final request we can find the money we appreciate your support but we can find the money if nobody donated money we still figure out a way to do it because we're committed to this this is our life calling in fact our saws 10% of all of our saws that we sell make and sell go towards supporting the Purple Heart project but there's tons of people that have been stepped up to the plate and are helping out tremendously one in particular comes to mind who just committed to taking care of two vets completely that's 3500 dollars each and he was one of the students in our last class and just felt like he needed to do more so a big thank you goes out to him I don't know his permission to mention his name or else I would what we can't do is we cannot find these guys that need the help they tend to be very introverted they they don't trust civilians I don't know much about this but I suppose if you if you spend part of your life having to live in a hyper vigilant state where letting your guard down for a minute could result in either you or one of your buddies getting killed it's hard to let that go so they just they tend to keep to themselves they stay in their homes relationships only with their immediate family so how do we find them well here's a classic example we had a guy come down we we had all these extra pieces of maple from the landing part of the bowling alley killed me to just not be able to use it but it's full of nails anyway so Jake and I decided we cut him up and just sell him off so he put him on Craigslist or equivalent of and people moved and we had to cut them into pieces and they're full of nails anyway so this one guy came down happens to be a schoolteacher in Frederick Lynn high school and I I I can't help but talk about this because it's part of who I am and he said Rob he said my brother-in-law who has served several tours in Afghanistan has PTSD terribly because I never see him he doesn't go outside the house I said bring him here during the workshops we're gonna have in May bring him here somehow get him down here when these guys come into a room and knowing that there's seven other guys that they don't have to explain themselves to you just see their shoulders drop and the just stress leaves and they just they feel home maybe for the first time since they've been discharged and if we can if we can get them if we can get access to them we can offer them help and get them into one of these workshops we have seen miracles occur five days five days of working in a shop environment and these people change life-changing changes take place I only wish that the VA and the company the places that take care of these guys could come and witness this because they might change their methods it's amazing what happens and there's numerous of you that are watching that know this they've had it happen to yourself so please spread the word Purple Heart Project go to rob Cosman comm and the toolbar on the top left the first thing you see is PHP Luther's got tons of information there all your questions will be answered the application form is on there all they have to do to apply is have a dd-214 if you're in the u.s. proof if you're in another country that you were honorably discharged or you can still be serving you have to have a clean record because you've got to be able to get into Canada Canada consider something like a DUI is the felony and that'll keep you out of the country do you have to have a passport and then you have to write as a story you got a son you got to write us about a half a page and you got to tell us your situation tonight tell everyone this talk to us like it would talk to your therapist you're not gonna exaggerate but you're not going to hold back we're not trying to be nosey but this is all we have to make the judgment call Jake and I and Luther and Super Dave sit down go through all of these independently and come up with we think is our top 14 list and then we compare notes and we fight and argue until we come up with the 14 that we issue extend the invitations to we will cover your airfare it doesn't matter where you live we we brought ash for over from Australia this last class we will cover your lodging while you're here and you're not gonna be in any dive we put you in a nice hotel we will cover your meals and we'll feed you the very best food this is a reward for what you did small one but as a reward you're not here on a we're not scrimping and in addition to five days of being in here from 8:00 in the morning until 11 o'clock at night we will send you home with the very best sharpening gear the stuff that I use the very best plane stuff that I use the variable saw the stuff I use the very best chisels $2,000 worth of great tools that you can go home and get a good start with so if you have somebody that you know that needs this or you think it may help please make them aware of it so that they can apply to us where I'll wrap this up real quick October intake will decide on that the end of August so you've got now to the end of August to apply appreciate your watching appreciate your support for the Purple Heart Project please please spread this to others we will see you in two weeks we're going to talk more about the the economy bench and some other stuff that comes up between now and then love your feedback thanks for being here and thanks to all the people behind the scenes who have here to help especially our friend Irvin from Austria a faster Toronto Toronto via the Philippines see you

Channel: RobCosman.com

Views: 24,982

Rating: 4.9390864 out of 5

Keywords: woodworking, work bench, carpentry, hand tools, vise, bench, tools

Id: g0PiEk29TXI

Length: 123min 29sec (7409 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 20 2019