Religious caller vs James O'Brien on homosexuality and the Bible | LBC

you just are you just like the bit that hurts the gauge but you're happy to ignore the rest of it why do you think that is can I say to you no you can answer my question why do you pick the bit out of all of these books that discriminates against homosexuals but you ignore all of the rest of it we're taking things out of context God has given the Mandate the the outline for a Biblical marriage and that is for men and women if there are two men and they say that they love God that's fine they can do what they want but they should not come until and dictate to Christians how they should live their life and even but they are Christians but you're dictating to those Christians how they should live their life God is the authority in the world two of them well he sent Jesus who told us to ignore the Old Testament no he didn't yes he did oh please James gay people having blessings in church how are they going to get hurt because if the if the work if the church condones what they're doing they're not speaking to them the church does condone it yes no no no what you know do you not understand what I'm saying no I haven't got a clue I don't know I think that makes two of us so the church does conduct the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Synod have just said that it's fine right okay so what I'm saying is so the church does condone it no no he's not going with a Biblical mandate though James but he's the Archbishop of Canterbury he is not the authority of God but he is in the Anglican Community he's he's the head on well I suppose technically it's King Charles no no he thinks he is but he's not right in the scripture so you know better than he does no I don't know just scriptures knows which scriptures the Bible which bit from from Genesis to Revelation all is truth God's revelation to mankind but that never says that never says anything about homosexuality are you being real in in the Book of Leviticus in the book of Deuteronomy it talks about man laying with men but Leviticus also talks about burning a bull on the altar as a sacrifice because the odor would please the Lord oh and it says you can sell your daughter into slavery doesn't it in Exodus okay then so what was the first mandate that God gave to mankind what was the first thing he said I'm afraid I'm going to pull you back to Leviticus and exodus mate because you just cited them are you are you do you still think it's okay to sell your daughter into slavery no not at all well why are you picking and choosing then no no it's about what God is sitting on what's Exodus 21 7 mate you know that as well as I do yeah it is it is okay to sell your daughter into slavery what would be a fair price do you think in this day and age James what we've got to understand I said you've got to get things in its context the context is the Book of Exodus and the Book of Leviticus which you just cited as your justification for um what I describe as homophobia so I'm just wondering why you picked that bit and yet you ignore the other bits are you allowed contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness Clive yes no no you're not mate that's Leviticus 15 19 to 24. again James you are taking things out of context no I'm reading it out of the Bible you want to bring it back to men and men I'm bringing it back to Leviticus which is what you just told me to do so how can you tell whether or not a woman is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness okay I how close are you allowed to be okay you're gonna have to answer some of my questions at least at one point so let's start with the slavery is it okay to sell my daughter into slavery no it's not but it says in Leviticus that it is Exodus that it is now this was what mankind was doing because there was situation or circumstance the mankind was also lying with man and you said that was bad yeah absolutely so why is that bad but selling us let's daughter into slavery is is not acceptable we have to get back into God's ideal no matter what you have to do is tell me how I can tell which which bits of the Old Testament you think we should for example no you can answer my questions no you can't give me an example you need to tell me which bits of Leviticus you choose to obey and which bits you don't that was never God's plan yeah because you're still just gonna talk one man you can't answer any of these questions yeah but I'm giving you a context here see my next stop right I know I don't know if you're familiar with Sangita maiska who presents a program on this radio station on Sunday yes so that is the Sabbath day Sangeeta presents on the Sabbath day no she doesn't she doesn't present them what day is that Saturday and Sunday she presents okay sure yes Saturday's established yes go ahead so Exodus 35 2 clearly states that she should be put to death why because she's working on the Sabbath mate no no no no no no it's in Exodus you just told me to read it no no no no I didn't tell you to read Exodus you told me so you just said Genesis to Revelation I suggested that the Old Testament had been superseded by The Sermon on the Mount you said it hadn't you told me to go back to Leviticus when you were trying to justify your homophobia I've gone to Exodus should do I have to kill Sangeeta maiska for the sin of working on the Sabbath yes or no it's a simple question you don't so well why not because the Bible tells me to you're handing down the law on on homosexuality so you must know the stuff about this is Leviticus 25 44. I may indeed possess slaves provided they are purchased from neighboring Nations so would that include Wales or would I have to go all the way to France if that's what the scripture says then that's all okay so slavery is a good thing slavery is allowed then for you as a good Christian do you have any slaves no I don't I don't I explained to you James do you have your hair what can you ask you to describe your current hairstyle to me it's bald right so you've trimmed it around the temples around the temple yeah you've trimmed your hair around the temples um yeah well that's expressly forbidden by Leviticus 1927. I I have to kill you now no not at all well yes this is all in your book mate again as I said I haven't finished yeah yeah what are you wearing what are you wearing at the moment Clive I'm wearing one robe with all one thread and what color no you're not no are you because even you know how hypocritical you're sounding now because you're not allowed to wear two different kinds of thread no no you're blaspheming not at all right you just are you just like the bit that hurts the gauge but you're happy to ignore the rest of it why do you think that is can I say to you no you can answer my question why do you pick the bit out of all of these books that discriminates against homosexuals but you ignore all of the rest of it there's some laws that were done away with at Jews at the cross but the the moral law of Liberty The Ten Commandments I'm going to ask you for the final time for the final time why do you choose to obey the bit that harms gay people while ignoring the rest of it it doesn't harm them they Harmon themselves but you're definitely not homophobic yeah absolutely not okay mate

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Length: 7min 18sec (438 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 21 2023