RED V-RAPTOR Impressions: 8K 120fps!

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Am I the only one who thinks the lack of modular/unified design on the VRaptor monitor setup is kind of a step backward compared to the DSMC2 monitors that mount, control and receive picture w/o the need for a BNC or additional battery? I understood why they did it with the Komodo given that price bracket, just seems like a weird design choice imo.

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so it's been a hot minute since there was a really big camera change here at mkbhd studios whatever you want to call it like this may be the longest i've ever used a single camera but that's mostly because these cameras are incredible and there's almost no way i could need more camera for youtube but also when you start getting around this type of cinema camera a lot of them are very specialized so when you get past the mirrorless cameras and dslrs into the realm of dedicated video cameras and cinema cameras a lot of these cameras are designed to be used by a crew of several people at once sometimes it's a big crew sometimes it's a small crew maybe two or three but that's different from a one-person camera and as a youtuber as a creator whatever you want to call it i need a one-person operation to be possible so i really started getting into these red cameras a couple years ago mainly for the world-class image quality but also because i could set them up to shoot by myself you just start with the brain and then i'd collected the perfect set of accessories around it to shoot the way i like to and then the rest of the workflow from there was pretty simple and that style of modular camera was called dsmc2 it's been amazing this this new one is called dsmc3 and it's pretty intense so red actually has this sort of tick-tock cycle where they upgrade the sensors inside the cameras that they design and then also the camera body itself but not at the same time so this camera body has the same massive 8k vista vision sensor as dsmc2 but it's a new body style and it's a new camera a new computer inside and that's what makes a dsm c3 i think dsmc stands for digital stills and motion camera i believe um but either way you could sort of look at this as a next generation versus this one but either way it's the same huge sensor everything else is different now there are some advantages to a new camera body but with the same sensor for one you get a very familiar image quality but now there's a new computer inside so you can get slightly better noise reduction out of the same sensor and then of course faster processing from a better computer allows for higher frame rates so 8k at 120 frames per second full frame like i mentioned which is ridiculous but the new body is pretty nice to look at too so it's like a sort of bigger version of the komodo it's this boxy cubish shape and almost everything here is built in instead of being attachable with optional modules so there's a canon rf mount at the front that supports phase attack autofocus and even added this ring lock which is pretty nice plus the red record button in the corner and some pinhole mics and then around the sides there's a lot of ventilation so up top there's a huge exhaust fan and on both sides you've got a lot of airflow this is not a water resistant camera at all but pretty similar to some other cinema cameras this one's just smaller now on the left side there's a single cf express type b slot with this nice high quality metal spring-loaded door might be the nicest car door i've ever seen and then on the right side there's a two and a half inch matte display it's not a touch screen but it's surrounded by buttons for camera control then around the back that's where all the business happens there's your wi-fi antenna for connecting straight to your phone or you've got a usb type-c port if you want to go straight into an ipad or something like that two sdi ports a headphone jack power time code and even one of the weirdest audio ports i've ever seen 5 pin audio plus can't forget about this new micro v lock battery mount on the left and then around the corner is the record button and a speaker for scratch audio playback and the power switch and you also may have noticed an actual ton of mounting points they're all over this thing the top the front the back the sides even these handles which are all metal also have a bunch of quarter twenties a bunch of mounting points on them so it's very uh function over form it's just a lot of things you can mount onto the side of this uh including lights mics all kinds of stuff like that but the number one thing you notice is how dense it is this is a very dense camera even without a lens or a battery or monitor or anything it's four pounds which doesn't sound like much but in your hand that's that's a lot and then you add all this stuff and it's definitely heavier so this is a dense little brick of a camera so a couple thoughts on it one uh i really like the white and black accent type of design this is the stormtrooper one so it's one of the earliest that they make it's a limited edition but also as someone who shoots mostly dark and reflective surfaces like gadgets and screens uh a white camera not the best idea it tends to show up in reflections a lot but that's on me that's on me but then two i think how much i love this camera will end up coming down to what type of accessories i can get for it what type of stuff comes out for it because dsm c2 like i said you just got the brain and then you got to choose every single perfect accessory i love this setup here with the side handle with the record button the top handle i use all the time this monitor is very bright swivels all the way around i built this up to be perfect exactly how i want it mostly with red accessories i got a gtu battery but everything else is like made by red and that ecosystem doesn't exist for this camera yet so it's just a couple of the things that come with the the package for it and i'm actually impressed by how many different like partnerships they've made for it they actually partnered with core for these batteries and they partnered with angel bird for the card and the card reader and they partnered with small hd for an official monitor that's coming out later this year i'm hoping that means other third party stuff will start to get added and built by other manufacturers too just because i don't know these handles there's no easy way to hold this camera as a box i'm like this back record button is not easy to hit all the time so it's not really meant for one person shooting the way this was um really hoping for a better set of handles and definitely looking forward to seeing what other accessories can make this really good but then the other i guess obvious downside to something like this where everything is built in versus the previous version which is the modular setup is you only get what red gives you which is built in or you'll have to adapt so like there's no uh redundant media recording like many have noted in other red cameras it's just the one card at a time there's no hdmi out you might have noticed in this camera there's no xlr for audio there's that one weird audio port now i couldn't help but notice at the bottom of red's site they have this like diagram looking thing it's in plain sight like you could easily miss it if you didn't know what you're looking for but it just says v-raptor xl coming in 2022 and then some diagrams of this larger looking dsm c3 camera this one looks like it has way more i o including more audio so maybe that bigger one ends up being the one that works better in certain workflows or you don't want to have to adapt as much but the main headliner of vraptor in this new dsmc3 computer is in the title of this video the new high frame rate 8k at 120 frames per second full frame and if you know anything about red cameras that also means you can crop down to a smaller part of the sensor and shoot even higher frame rates 600 frames per second at 2k 1080p are you serious so full frame 8k raw at 120 frames per second as you can imagine takes a lot of data and a lot of computing power so you'll need these fast cards to be able to write fast enough to shoot like that and if you start shooting at those low resolutions like i said it does crop in on the sensor so you are zoomed in quite a bit but that will unlock even higher frame rates as high as 600 frames per second which is absolutely nuts now as someone who mostly shoots videos of things sitting still i might not use that a ton personally but the one thing that immediately came to mind was actually showing the real difference between 120 hertz and 60 hertz in a 30 fps video so that should be i guess theoretically twice as obvious as before since dsm c2 maxed out at 8k at a mere 60 fps so you know what we're going to do we're going to dive right off into the deep end and shoot the iphone 13 pro review on the v-raptor unless something goes horribly wrong you can expect that entire video to be all image quality shot from that camera all the a-roll all the b-roll the intro as well which is pretty exciting wish us luck and i don't even have that many rf lenses so i'll be actually adapting to ef to continue to use my favorites i only have this one 660 gig memory card which sounds like a lot but like i said shooting 8k raw i promise you this fills up pretty quick but let's see if we give it a shot let's see how it goes and we'll really try some stuff like i said like we never really shoot much high frame rate but we'll do that i would absolutely avoid at all costs shooting over about 800 to 1000 iso on these previous red cameras same sensor better computer better noise reduction maybe we can get away with higher iso on this camera we'll try some of that too we'll see if the battery life is any different it's the same physical capacity battery so that should be fun to see all of that will be reported back and if you haven't already subscribed to the studio youtube channel that's where we'll be reporting also a lot of these like real-time findings as we shoot with it see what our experiences are shooting v-raptor so definitely go subscribe to the studio if you haven't already and that's pretty much it for my first impression again super dense really interesting camera to shoot with can't wait for better handles and better accessories but the raptor also we don't know what the v stands for i don't think do we what do you what do you think the v stands for you can make up whatever you want basically but that's basically it if you had a camera like this what would you shoot with it at 8k 120. let me know in the comments either way until the next one thanks for watching see you guys in 8k in the next video peace [Music]
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Length: 10min 49sec (649 seconds)
Published: Wed Sep 29 2021
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