Real crime - Crocodile tears (with working sound) S02E03

uh first they strike the way that he destroyed that family from within there's another word i can find to describe and accept evil then they pretend to grieve just phone somebody just let us know you're right the appeal for help we knew um that there was no way that a person can come back from the dead and make a phone call and say yes everything's fine but hide the truth we do not understand why my daughter has been murdered i didn't think there was no person on this earth could do that to a child tonight crocodile tears help find whoever shot my husband please come forward the killers caught in the spotlight the killers trapped in a web of their own deceit how you could possibly move about all day long knowing that evening you've planned to murder someone it was a unique case and one that would remain a mystery for eight years it would finally be solved in an unprecedented sting by one woman's determination and a detective who was prepared to take the biggest gamble of his career fire ancestor they got out of a plastic bag down on the water and siren bag oh i bet they've done her fingerprints already it's been a long time actually it doesn't matter it's not particularly unusual in this day and age for people to go missing it is unusual for a married woman with two young children to go missing november 1992 and 30 year old businesswoman rhonda k was reported missing from her family home in newbury berkshire she lived there with her husband nick and their two children aged two and six the couple ran their own babywear business from home and took in lodges for extra money ronda seemed to have everything going for her her disappearance was totally out of character police were baffled it just didn't sound right to us that she should suddenly disappear in the morning her car was left behind all her clothes was left behind the bank accounts and so on hadn't been interfered with police have searched the canal at the back of the cave's home as well as the house itself and the surrounding area a month into the investigation and the hunt for ronda had failed to unearth any new evidence there was no body and no new sightings she's taken no money from her bank and even her toothbrush is in place all the indications were that rhonda kaye had either harmed herself or somebody had harmed her with the case at a dead end police called a press conference in the hope of uncovering fresh leads they asked ronda's husband nick and her sister rachelle to help with the appeal and every now and then the kids ask me where she is and i just want to be able to tell the kids she's gone away and she's safe and know that it's really every night i can come up with another story i mean it's so difficult for me to be able to assess what's happened to her or what she's done during the police investigation it emerged that there had been trouble at the family home two days before she went missing ronda had found her husband nick in bed with her lodger karen scott and had asked her to leave it was the second time rhonda had caught nick having an affair and the next day she consulted a solicitor about divorcing him the last time i spoke to her was um she was waiting for nick to come home from work and she said her her words to me were that she was going to have it out with him and ask him to leave rochelle was surprised when she called the house the next morning he told me that they had gone he'd gone to bed and in the morning when he woke up to give her a cup of tea she was gone the separation she knows the separation is definite and i know the separation is definite but i just for the kid's sake i just want her to let someone know that she is safe he was very obliging and cooperative and prepared to do anything uh he could to assist he maintained his version of events that um at any moment now it was most likely that ronda cay was going to walk back through the door but police were beginning to have their doubts about nicholas k next question there was a good deal of suspicion um that rhonda k had been killed and of course nicholas kaye owing to the circumstances of her disappearance uh nicholas k would have had to been the prime suspect next question k was in for a surprise this was going to be a press conference with a sting in the tail among the gathered journalists was roger sawyer who worked for a local news agency normally when you go to a news conference like that you'll have a little briefing with the police beforehand and they'll tell you what the situation is sometimes they'll explain to you that the relatives are extremely upset and they'll want you to be quite gentle with them because they're just appealing for information it was a bit different with this one because uh we had the informal briefing with the police beforehand there was none of that in fact almost the opposite i remember asking the officer is it all right if i ask him if he killed her and he said you can ask him what do you like ladies and gentlemen two more questions and then it ends roger i have to ask you a question have you killed your mind rhonda k had mysteriously disappeared from her family home in newbury berkshire the finger of suspicion was pointing at her husband two more questions and then it ends at a press conference a journalist was given the go-ahead to ask the question everyone wanted answered you killed your wife what do you think i was a bit surprised by that but uh i just asked him then please answer the question no i have no cure i was really pleased that that particular question did come out because it was one of the questions that i wanted to ask myself i didn't expect the answer that he gave i would have liked a much more sincere and concerned answer i think a lot of people watching that interview would have expected to see some genuine signs of distress on his part what do you think and his response to me answered the question of his guilt and the anger within me just brewed to such a degree that i just felt that i was going to explode i came out of it thereafter feeling much the same as when i went into it i suspected that she had been murdered and i felt it was only a matter of time before we found her body the appeal may have reinforced people's suspicions but it brought forward no witnesses or new leads there was simply nothing for the police to work on kaye was free to go he returned home to the house that he had shared with his wife but now shared with his lover karen scott in fact it would emerge that she had returned to the house just two days after ronda went missing and that rhonda's possessions had been sold or burnt i understood very clearly that vonda was never going to come back kaye later married karen scott it was welcome here we've really had a belly full of all this to be honest with nobody and no evidence the investigation into ronda's disappearance went cold for seven years there were no sightings of rhonda rochelle was battling to keep the investigation alive but despite routine police reviews the case had come to nothing as the years rolled by i had to resign myself to the fact that there was a possibility that she may never be found but things were about to change autumn 1999 and ronda's case was reviewed by detective superintendent trevor davis when i first reviewed the case i looked at likely suspects and of course who was the person with motive nicholas k who was the person with opportunity nicholas k and if you put those together with the circumstances that prevailed at the time in other words he'd just been discovered for the second time having an affair in quite a reasonably short period of time he had to become the major suspect he assured me that it would be his last major case before he retired and that he would do everything in his power to get me the answers that i'd so desperately needed there was no forensic evidence that had come to light that was going to implicate nicholas k and therefore my conclusion was that if we were going to get to the bottom of ronda's disappearance then it had to come from him and probably him alone davis came up with a groundbreaking plan the police had recently been given new powers to bug private homes if there was no other way of obtaining evidence he was given the official go-ahead to mount a covert surveillance operation on kaye's home bugs were planted in the kitchen bedroom and bathroom it was an extraordinary gamble it may well have been within the family that they never ever spoke about it so it needed a catalyst to bring that to the fore that catalyst would be rochelle davis scripted a phone call during which rochelle would tell kaye that remains had been found she would give the minimum amount of information in the hope that anything kay said would incriminate him i had to make him believe that it was me speaking normally and convince him that a body had been found and the pressure of knowing that my words were so important was tremendous it was a high risk strategy they had to get it right first time there would be no second chances rochelle would make the call to k but not engage in conversation the police would then monitor the reaction between him and his wife karen hello nick it's rochelle the police have been down to see me they found some remains and have taken some dna samples i hope they get you this time you bastard what the surveillance team were about to hear was dynamite what that was rochelle what that was rochelle what did she say hold on a minute got out the plastic bag down on the water in science a bag oh i bet they've done her fingerprints already it's been down there a long time it doesn't matter yeah it'll be circumstantial though won't it oh god i can't take this yes but putting it in a plastic bag looks suspicious if they look in the bottom of the river there's pebbles the first thing you should have discussed it with me i mean i don't think you're telling me the truth i don't think you use gloves why wouldn't i use gloves it became apparent to me that i was actually listening to a confession from his own mouth you don't know it's they could have found slight forensic evidence in the van they could fence like forensic evidence on the walls in the bedroom as well um have you heard about that light that picks up you know i mean i had to i had a hell of a job getting the carpet sorted you know hoover that thing i must have been like on it for over an hour i must have done all of it as the information came out about the likelihood of what had happened to ronda the evidence was getting stronger and stronger bloody rochelle sorry bloody bloody bloody rochelle after 48 hours police felt that at last they had enough evidence to arrest kaye nicholas k said that he knew that the house had been bugged and that he said certain things as a joke meant for the police who he knew were listening that was an absolute nonsense when we looked at the tapes overall it was more than evident that it was no joke nicholas k was charged with the murder of his wife ronda there was no evidence to implicate his current wife karen in the recorded conversations there were references to a body in water near siren sester police divers searched local gravel pits but found nothing in a 30 square mile area the chances of ever finding ronda's body are remote with no body or forensic evidence for the first time ever a whole case would depend entirely on taped evidence kay continued to maintain his innocence but the recordings were to seal his fate however possibly influenced by the fact that no body had ever been found the jury returned a surprise verdict of manslaughter not murder he was jailed for six years he could quite easily have gone to the courts like everyone else and got a divorce and to take somebody's life under these circumstances is absolutely unacceptable and he couldn't be allowed to take those dark secrets behind closed doors and keep them there and every now and then the kids ask me where she is and i just want to be able to tell the kids she's gone away and she's safe and know that it's the truth he knew um that there was no way that a person can come back from the dead and make a phone call and say yes everything's fine he just did it for the cameras and to get a sympathy vote have you killed your wife what do you think there are more than 800 murders a year in britain and every year there are dozens of police press appeals but in the last decade alone there have been at least 17 cases of killers crying crocodile tears some people like vincent chilton even staged their own media appeals come home or if you don't want to come home just phone somebody just let us know you're right for the watching public it was an emotional plea for the safe return of his missing girlfriend 23 year old lisa blunt the mother of four young children but chilton was lying he'd already killed lisa in a drunken brawl and taken her body to a nearby wood where he'd soaked it in petrol and set it alight the slaves know you're right but police arrested shilton and he confessed he was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to eight years mitchell choi went one step further and mounted his own media campaign when his wife and the mother of two young children disappeared one day either lindsay's going to walk into a police station or someone's going to see lindsay that's why choi was the number one suspect but publicly protested his innocence even appearing on this morning obviously the question has to be put and i know what your answer's going to be but i mean did you kill her no no i just i just wish i just wish someone had listened to me no one has listened to me since this has begun after 15 months he took his publicity campaign one stage further i will not stop until they either apologize to me or i get compensated because i think i deserved it i've been branded a murderer in this town by them but in the end kwai couldn't keep up the charade after 36 hours of police questioning he finally cracked and confessed to lindsay's murder he led police to where he dumped her dismembered body he was jailed for life many killers think their lies will somehow hoodwink the police and watching public alike they may believe their tears will save them they may believe they can ride out the storm they may even caught the limelight hoping to deflect suspicion from themselves but in some cases it's the very appeal they make that leads directly to their downfall the children of robert wignal grief stricken and baffled by the brutal murder of the father they loved i can't find any motive whatsoever why anyone would have done this um i've never known my father to raise his hand or even argue with anyone adelston surrey and a romantic walk in the woods ended in murder for 55 year old bob wignal bob had gone with his wife sandra to feed some fox cubs when he was attacked and stabbed several times in the chest sandra managed to escape they've been married for less than a year it's one of those things where everybody says that he's a nice guy and he he genuinely was he never got upset with the children all his grandchildren absolutely idolized his grandchildren bob had been distraught when rose his wife of 30 years had died of cancer but then he met sandra and on christmas eve in 1991 they married i think everybody was genuinely happy for bob that we've really thought that he'd found a little bit of happiness again sandra gave police a description of three men she said attacked her husband senior investigating officer pat crossan was called to the scene so you look for emotive was it robbery was it revenge was it an argument that it got out of hand but there was no information leading to any of those so it just appeared to be a motiveless crime it's beyond belief you you can't you can't take it in at all i've never known my father to raise his hand or even argue with anyone you seem to be on automatic pilot through the whole thing it's as if you're living somebody else's life it's not your life anymore i would urge anybody that that even thinks they might know something to um to come forward bob's three children debbie denise and dean took part in the appeal but sandra was too distraught now you've got to understand that it's a very daunting thing for people to go before the media they're not trained for it they're not accustomed to it and so you kind of make a judgment about why people do or they don't participate she was now part of our family and she'd been through this terrible thing and we we tried to help her deal with her grief as well a month into the investigation and with police looking for new leads a crime appeals program staged a reconstruction of the murder using actors sandra agreed for her voice to be used in the appeal we were standing talking and from behind bob's back i saw these three boys have you seen a puppy boxer mate no dog around here i'm afraid they just seem to appear from nowhere i thought one of them was coming after me that i actually ran to the bottom of the motorway i didn't know what to do i was absolutely terrified as a result of the appeal police received dozens of calls but one in particular stood out an anonymous caller told detectives they should be looking not for three men but two he made another startling claim he was very very persistent in saying that it was sandra wignal was the key to solving this crime he made a significant comment to me that she was an evil woman and that if i had her followed she would take me to the address where these men could be found bob wignal had been stabbed to death while on a woodland walk with his wife sandra the man investigating the murder then detective superintendent pat crossan had been suspicious of bob's wife sandra from day one robert wigner was murdered near the spot where i'm now standing and his body was dumped about 10 feet behind me there were certain inconsistencies coming through first of all how did she find the body 10 or 15 minutes later in a dark wood some distance away from where the attack had taken place why for example did she not run off in the opposite direction but there were lights from houses to seek help the police mounted a surveillance operation to follow sandra wignal sandra's secret world was about to unravel police discovered that just nine days after marrying bob she was back with a former lover terry bewley the relationship with that man was such that she would do anything that that man had asked her to do if he said to drive naked to a given spot she would do it he invited other men to have sexual relationships with her in his presence and she agreed that she obtained money legitimately i might add and gave it to him she was totally besotted by him the police investigated bewley's background and uncovered some alarming details terry bully was a cold cunning and calculated individual who had a previous conviction for murder police were convinced that bewley was involved in the murder they also discovered that three months after marrying bob sandra wignel had persuaded him to take out a life insurance policy for 21 000 pounds but bob had begun to suspect his wife was having an affair he confronted her about it just a week before he was murdered police followed sandra wignal to buley's house 50 miles away where they arrested the pair and another man bully's lodger martin hughes when questioned hughes admitted being the anonymous caller he had recognized sandra wignal's voice on the appeals program she was a regular visitor at bewley's house when bob and i actually got together he was such a different person he you know reverted back to his old self and everybody was throw to bits hughes was also able to give police the identity of a second man who he said attacked bob harold molt police arrested malt who made a full confession he told us about how the he and bully had disposed of clothing and in fact where he mauled her disposed of a knife in a canal in birmingham bulian wignal continued to deny any involvement in the murder but mull's confession had given police the proof they needed the pair were charged bob's family were shocked but had begun to have their doubts about sandra's story there were times when you thought you know she must know more than she's letting on you feel quite bad upon yourself for for thinking them sanity what you think is sanity kicks in and you think well is this just ridiculous to believe that she would have done this why would she have done such a terrible thing um she actually sat in my kitchen discussing how she was gonna spend the money how she promised her daughter a horse i suppose you're in shock yourself and you don't want to believe you you desperately don't want to believe that she could possibly be involved sandra wiggle had not wanted to take part in the police press appeals she feared showing her face would help people link her to bully she only reluctantly agreed to use her voice but even that was enough to trap her the motives for this murder said the prosecution were lust and greed sandra wigner claimed her husband had been attacked by three youths for no apparent reason the story was said the prosecution complete fiction this woman was portrayed in the press after she was tried as almost well virtually a prostitute and we had absolutely no knowledge sandra lived a total totally double life just weren't describing the person we knew we just it still seems unbelievable in november 1993 terry bewley harold moult and sandra wignal were jailed for life in a dramatic sense he had signed his own death warrant when he married sandra wignal she lured him into that wood with the sole purpose of somebody killing her husband when bob and i actually got together he was such a different person he you know reverted back to his old self and everybody was throw to bits that he met me and everybody was very thrilled when we got married it's incredibly difficult to understand how you could possibly move about all day long knowing that evening you've planned to murder someone jean daddo faced the cameras after her husband had been shot in an apparently motiveless murder i would just like to say anybody out there knows anything or has seen anything that could help find whoever shot my husband please come forward 52 year old financial advisor terry daddo was shot at point-blank range as he opened the front door of their home and i just certainly pain daddo's apparently heartfelt appeal was a sham with the help of roger her son from a previous marriage she had made an incredible 11 attempts on her husband's life before finally succeeding with a hit man with her marriage in trouble she had not wanted to share the nest egg she and her husband had built up daddo and her son were sentenced to 18 years for conspiracy to murder the hitman was jailed for life 10 years on daddo still maintains her innocence a personal appeal from victims family or friends can maximize publicity but it's a daunting experience and people react in different ways whether guilty or innocent west yorkshire and a quiet rural town was rocked by the sudden disappearance of 23 year old linda fleming a trainee pharmacist linda who lived with her parents had failed to turn up for work after 24 hours and with no news of her whereabouts her father reported her missing she loved her family she was devoted to her family and seemed to be much much closer to to dad than than to mum she was daddy's girl she loved her boyfriend stuart they were going to get engaged six days later and with still no clues to go on linda's boyfriend stuart father derek and brother stuart appealed for information no linda was not depressed and i do not want anybody to even think that linda was depressed for the gathered journalists it seemed an all too familiar routine many were fearing the worst the press conference took place at a time when there'd been quite a few briefings where members of of murder victims families had given conferences and had turned out to be the killers so we were looking at at all three of them uh and and wondering which one of them might be the murderer linda wherever you are or for whatever reason please come home we all love you and we want you all with us none of us suspected derek for one second and we certainly didn't suspect his his son stuart so we're all looking at linda's boyfriend thinking was it him she was down at my house um and when dad knew she was there she was staying over she would even ring to tell him she was staying over even though they knew she was there whereas derek had been crying and was shaking and was was visibly upset and obviously devastated stewart was very straight very calm there were no tears the appeal was disappointing it brought no new leads or sightings of linda police stepped up the search so far an extensive search by mounted police tracker dogs and the force helicopter has found no trace of linda the police were far more concerned than they would normally be for your commoner garden missing from home i think everyone believed right from the beginning that something more sinister was afoot with this case three days later their worst fears were confirmed when the body of a young woman was found on the moors five miles away it was identified as linda's the pathologist reported that she had died as a result of multiple blows to the head with a heavy blunt instrument the call for further help from the public remains with the belief that it may now take just one piece of evidence to trap linda's killer there had been no sexual assault or robbery and with no obvious motive police began to suspect that linda had been killed by someone close to her people started to look around and say well who on earth could that be the spotlight fell on the last people known to have seen linda alive her family and her boyfriend the community was stunned forensic scientists were sent into their homes the search at linda's boyfriend's house produced no evidence he was in the clear but during the search of the fleming family home there was a shocking discovery microscopic specks of blood there was i recall bloodstaining between the tiles and some of the grouting there was a small amount of staining within a cupboard in the utility room and there was a stain on a peg bag which was subjected to dna analysis at lunchtime today detectives announced that a 51 year old local man had been arrested in connection with linda fleming's murder linda's brother was in the clear because of an alibi police arrested her father derek i confess we were all pretty staggered by that because you just don't hear about fathers murdering their grown-up daughters then came a second breakthrough a search of fleming's car produced more traces of blood there was also blood under the laces of his shoes he was now the prime suspect in his daughter's murder the net was closing in fleming's account of his whereabouts on the day linda disappeared didn't add up he said that he'd returned home but around about 8 15 they confronted him with the fact that his wife and their neighbor had said that he'd returned at about 10 and that they were there and so it was that fleming then changed his account and said oh well i must have returned home twice police questioned fleming for nearly three days he continued to deny any involvement in the murder without more evidence they would have to release him in less than three hours then came the results the blood was linda's police presented fleming with the damning evidence and then and only then did fleming ever admit that linda had been there and that she had died there fleming claimed that linda had died when he pushed her during a violent argument he said he'd hit her with a hammer and disposed of her body to make it look like she'd been attacked by a stranger this contradicted the pathologist report which stated that linda had received at least nine blows to the head while she was alive fleming would change his story several times suddenly the picture that we had of derrick fleming being this pillar of respectability being this family man was was was shattered it turned out this happy married family man had been carrying on an affair for 16 years with a former work colleague it was speculated that linda had found out about her father's affair and was about to reveal all derrick fleming turned out to be a control freak who ruled his family with an iron fist if you like it's a cliche but it's true he was an absolute tyrant in the home derek fleming was convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment linda wherever you are or for whatever reason please come home or just drink we all love you it emerged that fleming had been reluctant to take part in the police press appeal an appeal that was later to be dramatically turned against him in an unusual step his apparently grief-stricken plea was played to the judge and jury during his trial he practiced a cruel and arrogant deception on his family at a time when they must have been aging with anxiety over linda's fate but this was first and foremost a lie this press conference showed we suggested just how controlled he could be because that quivering of the lip that crocodile tear was wholly bogus it was the act of a man who was trying to save his own skin linda wherever you are or for whatever reason please come home or just drink we all love you and we want you all not everyone breaks down in front of the cameras sean jenkins flanked by his wife was the model of calm control as he appealed for help after his foster daughter billy joe was found murdered as a family we are totally devastated we do not understand why our daughter has been murdered or what the motive could possibly be thirteen-year-old billy joe had been bludgeoned to death as she painted the patio doors of the family home in east sussex we appeal to anyone who thinks they have any information about this crime to contact the police urgently now that we have attended this press conference today i would ask the media to respect my family jenkins claimed there had been a prowler but he was convicted on forensic evidence and sentenced to life like many killers he thought he could escape justice by manipulating the media and police it was manchester's biggest police investigation since the moore's murders it's a very very uh sensitive thing to a lot of people in the northwest you know children going missing may bank holiday weekend school boy jamie lavis goes missing how can an eight-year-old child and bear in mind he was only just eight years of age how long can he survive out on his own unsupported open shore a run-down suburb of manchester this was jaime's home and playground on monday the 5th of may he went out to play but didn't come back we was looking for him up until tea time we thought he was just messing about playing hide and seek or whatever and then when it got late about eight o'clock it was really starting to worry people my mum she was shaking when my dad come on she just broke down she says you need to we need to find him it's getting late it's getting dark and then it got to 10 o'clock we had to find the police the police called a press conference and asked jaime's mother karen to help with the appeal if anybody out there knows where jamie is or he's giving him food please just get in touch with the police everybody's waiting for him to come roll now jamie's described as being small for his age he's about four foot tall and he wears he wears clothes that are made to fit a five to six year old a crucial witness came forward darren vickers he approached jaime's sister jane and he said to jane he wouldn't happen to be wearing a dark blue reebok track suit woody so jane said yes and he said oh it was on my bus bus driver darren vickers lived round the corner from the lavish family and he quickly joined in the search for jamie he was like a best friend anything that we wanted doing he'd be there offering his help no matter what it was not the time of day and night he'd be there we just got close it's like one big close family now because we've been we've been out basically 24 hours a day all of us involved looking for jamie and remember if you're desperate like the lavish family were they've lost their child they'll hang on to anything or anyone in order to assist to find that child over the following weeks there were hundreds of reported sightings of jamie but they all came to nothing the last known person to see him alive was still bus driver darren vickers terrible could never dream of it a young child on the bus like that just going missing it's just unbearable to think about it's just a nightmare for everyone according to darren vickers jamie had been just another passenger on the bus but when police tracked down other witnesses who'd been on the 219 that day they gave a very different story he made that bus like a playground to be allowed to change gear while the the bus is moving to give out tickets to press the ticket machine to sort the change out to stand in the actual driver's cabin next to the driver all these things if you are a young boy they're very very attractive in fact jamie had spent over six hours on the bus that day according to darren vickers jamie had an all-day saver ticket so he'd allowed him to stay on it's like any child that has a day saver ticket which you boarded with it's not to know what they do with it they paid for the ticket they can do really what they're pleased with they don't issue those sorts of tickets to children and in fact jamie never had a day saver ticket he was just allowed to remain on the bus police were beginning to have serious concerns about the man who was now in the heart of the lavish family and even doing television appeals on their behalf there's somebody out there has got to be sick keeping a child with that age you know it shouldn't be done he had any respect you just hand him over to the nearest police station just let the child go in it's like come on he's not in trouble it's not nothing he's just wanted he wanted to do more appeals than what we was willing to do because we didn't want to be constantly in the public eye the more that he put himself up in front of the media which he did regularly uh as though he was the hero trying to find this child trying to organize all the searches and and having the family depend on him all the time this would assist him to keep or keep one step ahead of the inquiry but then a crucial piece of evidence came to light after going through hours of cctv footage the police came across images of jamie captured at the bus station on the day he disappeared darren vickers was also caught on camera following jamie and even ruffling his hair this contradicted vicar's story it wasn't just a driver with a passenger the driver had actually left the bus to speak to the child so again it's another little piece of information a piece of intelligence to work on the police became even more suspicious when they checked out vickers job references we found that he'd given false information on his references and one of his referees was a convicted pedophile the lavish family were about to discover that their newfound friend had become the prime suspect in their son's murder darren vickers joins us on the phone now darren you're the bus driver that was the last person to see little jamie alive how come he hasn't been seen since i'll never know for the day comes home i still believe he's alive if the case was what the police were making out to be if the case was he was dead wrong whether lucky they found him vic has even found a late night radio chat show to volunteer information and was publicly describing himself as part of the family so how's the police investigation going the police not letting much information out about that mr family is supposed to know the first confirmed side scene yeah we've never been told you you always suspected that there was something underneath that he wasn't telling anybody and i think that's why none of us believed a word he said when he appeared on the show three weeks after jamie was reported missing police arrested darren vickers for his abduction they then had to break the news to the lavish family we didn't take it seriously at all we just thought they drawn a blank so there was just aiming for the nearest person in fact they vilified the police and the action that we'd taken at that particular time understandably so because we had taken away the pillar of strength and we actually went down to the police station and sat there while he got out it's my understanding when vickers was released they held a party police had to release vickers because of a lack of evidence he then turned to the media again to publicly proclaim his innocence he even invited a film crew around to the lavish's house if i would have never come forward in the first place you know just let him know that i'd seen jamie on that day there'd never been nothing wiser today that had been ripping out pulling it straw has been out you know i thought i did the right the right decent thing and letting him know that i'd seen him on the day but i'd never thought i'd have been arrested on suspicion of his abduction i think it's just a joke every time you turned on the television uh vickers will be there i feel it's still alive i don't fear the same way the police fear that he's murdered his family don't but somebody somewhere knows where james is and he was doing this for no other reason and to throw suspicion away from him i've got nothing to do with the abduction of james lavis and i've got the backing of the lavish family relations everybody by saying he got the backing of the lavish family by telling the the members of the public via the media that why the police picking on me because i am the man leading the searches i am the pillar of strength behind this family so how can it be me vickers even moved in with the family after police searched his own house three streets away vickers's presence amongst the family made our job very very difficult we have a duty to inform the family and keep them up to date with the results of our inquiries when you've got an enemy within that family and you know about that you can't be as open as you would like to be with that family but vicar's frequent media appeals were about to backfire two teenagers who had seen him on television reported that he had tried to lead them into some woods late at night the police then focused their search for jamie in that area this is the area where we found the tarpaulin which covered clothing similar to the one that hadn't been described by jamie's mother and it consisted of a pair of jogging toasters children's jogging trousers and a wax jacket charles wax jacket scooped it up put it into a bag took it back to the police station and then when they laid it out to dry we found the jawbone our home office pathologist examined it and told us that number one yes it was human number two the size of it indicated it being a child's around the age of the child we were looking for that's jamie dna tests proved that it had been jamie's his body had been dismembered and the remains scattered police were able to break down vicar's alibi by showing that he had not been with his family that night as he had claimed police officer said we've found the remains we've had it tested and it's jamie and i said no it's not i said no it's not jamie and i wouldn't believe it for months i wouldn't accept it that it was jamie in fact because of the fact of the state that they found it in i didn't think there was no person on this earth could do that to a child because we didn't find all of what what was of jamie we didn't find all his clothes we didn't find all his body vickers denied abducting and murdering jaime but his betrayal and manipulation of the family wasn't over during the trial he tried to pin the blame on jamie's father my dad was in total shock he just couldn't believe that someone was trying to say that he killed his own flesh and blood if my dad was anything he worshipped his kids but vickers didn't stop there he also claimed that he'd been having an affair with karen and that she was carrying his child and he wanted blood tests to prove it was his child so i did blood tests just to satisfy him because i couldn't stand his eyes going in the back of my head every time i went to the trail just to prove to everybody because people was whispering behind his backs writing graffiti on walls i'd select my son's murderer he's a control freak he lacks the feeling of control he was controlling the family he was controlling the media and he was trying to control our inquiries right up to the end for five months vicars had wept crocodile tears with the family falsely raising their hopes while trying to save his own skin i've got nothing to do with the abduction of james lavis in april 1999 he was sentenced to life 24 hours later he confessed to sexually abusing and murdering jaime what he did to jeremy what he did to that family the way that he destroyed that family from within there's no other word i can find to describe him except evil i got to that cemetery and i think i'm buying him flowers for christmas when i should be buying him toys and i'll never forgive darren vickers what he's done to kill a child but to dismember him and bury him is the most sickening thing that anybody could ever do to somebody foreign you

Channel: Vindsus86

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Rating: 4.5744224 out of 5

Keywords: crocodile tears, real crime, itv, documentary, crime, killers, kidnap, matthews, tracie, murder, killer, murders, serial, british

Id: fpTEE_zWj0M

Length: 49min 20sec (2960 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 11 2014