Quebec Mosque Shooting: Manufacturing a Conspiracy

hello everyone I'd like today to talk about the recent Quebec City mosque shooting and in particular the evolving response to it on a certain online community as I'm a big fan of so first we'll just give a brief overview of the event on the 29th of January during the evening prayers at the Islamic cultural center of Quebec City a lone gunman entered the premises and began firing at people killing six before fleeing one suspect was initially detained at the scene but was later released after police determined but he was just a bystander who's now considered a witness the actual shooter and I know I'm going to pronounce this ronger Alexander B finet as probably as close as I'm going to get called the police shortly after fleeing and surrendered and it later came to light that Lisa net was a far-right white nationalist islamaphobe so what I'd like to do today is map out the response to this incident as various aspects of it came to light and we'll be thinking in particular about how these sorts of incidents always give rise to various conspiracy theories and I'll be looking in particular at Free Republic calm which is a deeply conservative forum community that I dip into every now and then if I feel like being annoyed about something I'll also be looking at the response by the various phases of the YouTube channel rebel media who I briefly featured in my previous video and before I get started a little disclaimer this isn't merely some victory lap about the shooting you know all these people thought it was a Muslim shooter but then it turned out it was an Islamophobe shooter hardy-har they're all wrong you know I'm not interested in just doing that because after all this is still a mass shooting and people died and it's a tragedy there's an element as making fun of them sure but I promise it's all in service to an actual pointy of I think it's important to make and so let's get to it and we'll start at the beginning with the first breaking news report being put stood on free republic calm so this red is the first time the incidents mentioned on the forum and being an early report it's very light on the details you know multiple shots fired people feared injured police have set up a perimeter and naturally there's no mention of the motive or identity of the suspect and here's where we take off first step on the road to our conspiracy theory the obvious islamaphobe reaction to news of a shooting is to assume that the perpetrator is a Muslim this step is slightly complicated here because the victims were also Muslims which means we have to do a little imaginative speculating and early comments from user T Li says multiple dead yeah sounds internal might have been more that one popped their cork perhaps two families went after each other user a fool in paradise postulates it may have been an honor killing and user Wendell is taking rest at the shooting arose from the conflict between different denominations of Islam as though it's clear the kind of thing that they're expecting now around this time in a thread on reddit about the incident a user called V underscore GMD posted this confirmed on police radio the two suspects are Bashir Alta weed and half an Mattie Syrians who entered Canada as refugees last week now this isn't true this is just some rubbish someone made up but since it implicates Muslims that of course caught on and did the rounds on Twitter and made its way to Free Republic user now approaching midnight reposted the fake names now they did charitably out the word on confirmed at the start of their post not that anyone appears to have read it mind you user Red Wolf replied and it's Muslims user Laz Amit has posted a sarcastic reply mocking the idea that the shooter could have been a right-wing Canadian which of considering later developments as rather funny user gold state GOP posted I'm not surprised mozzies attacking fellow mozzies Justin Trudeau's children they really don't like Justin Trudeau by the way use a little harbor posted it's becoming apparent but this is a Muslim on Muslim attack of course there's absolutely no evidence so far for support that the shooter or shooters were Muslims but so strong is this conservative Islamophobe desire to blame a Muslim they've already decided that it's the case user van schreeten comments that if it we're refugees this will be good because of its political impact and this is echoed by user Silvana from the north who says it could be a game changer refugees need to be stopped everywhere can trump rule for other countries to eggs user Acquia 48 save what a gift they handed Trump and then they write some Trump Twitter fanfic that has Trump gloating about the attacks and use a yardstick says frankly the timing couldn't be better for Trump and this sort of thing is why I really like free republic there's no attempt to dull the edges of any of these horrible opinions they're just openly being happy about matters happening so long as it makes Trump look good free republic is like having a direct line into modern conservative thought completely unfettered by things like political correctness or societal norms or basic human decency so at this point there's still be no actual information released by the Canadian police but that hasn't stopped Free Republic from having the whole incident figured out there were two shooters they were Syrian refugees called Bashir Alta weed and half an mathy they arrived in Canada last week and they carried out the killings as part of some sort of internal factional conflict simple now since this is all so obvious we can move on to the second step of our conspiracy fairy creation process by asking why is it taking the police so long to confirm all these things that we already know why haven't the police confirmed that the attacker was a Muslim you see the next thing the police did was announced that they had two suspects in custody those being Alexander Bissonnette the actual shooter and Mohammed L khadiyah the witness but they hadn't yet announced their names and so why not use a mandala dawn says still not telling the public who the terrorists are which probably means they have Muslim names and use a major Pelham agrees saying that the delay on releasing the suspects names is a dead giveaway at this point user Kevin in California says no reports on them must mean they're not blonde flash blue eyed and desert Rhinos a similar Trudeau would use the label terrorist if it was a couple of white guys three hours without the peep tells me they're trying to figure out how to spin this user rummy chick gets right to the point and says can't be white it would have already hit the news by the lib Todd's JLB says for once I really thought it might be some religion other than Muslims perpetrating the killings the perfect record continues hmm outside a free republic this is where we start to see our pals over at rebel media chiming in Gavin McInnes seen here doing something incredibly racist commented on an early report saying just need the shooters first name please news as relevant posted and then I guess retweeted himself asking why there hadn't been any suspects names released and then followed that up by saying Quebec police just said he won't name Muslim mosque attack suspects because there are legal proceed just really well yes really you see as well as a few actual reasons that please sir hesitant to immediately release the names of people suspected of crimes regardless of their race or religion the first is a basic matter of public safety especially with high-profile incidents like this one you know you can't come out and say we just arrested John Smith of number tan Kings Road for this terrible crime and by the way here's a map to his house for instance the next reason is so that police can protect themselves legally because what if it later turns out that John Smith didn't do the terrible crime and didn't much like his name and face being out there in new stories calling him a murderer he'd have a pretty good defamation case sir and it's honestly kind of surprising as relevant wouldn't understand the potential legal ramifications here considering how many times that he himself has been sued for libel several times having to publicly apologize and pay damages to people he's been telling fibs about including a mr. George Soros funnily enough and I bet that apology particularly stunk didn't it Ezra now pretending to wonder why the police haven't released information about the suspect in a shooting happens every time even though this incident with a white non-islamic shooter should prove to everyone but the police always delay releasing the suspects names regardless of ethnicity or religion it won't go you know jumping to conclusions is just too fun and it's a favorite pastime of all manner of idiots is the perpetually outraged Paul Joseph Watson posting it and even Twitter egg come to life stefan molyneux couldn't resist retweeting someone else wondering the same now handily enough for me as the rebel media guys were rather sloppy with their initial responses and kind of gave the game away a bit look at the language in Ezra lavance tweets police won't name the Muslim mosque attackers or McKenna's who reacted to news that a pig's head was left at the mosque last year by saying pretty sure these Muslims would rather be offended by a Christian than shot at by a Muslim which doesn't really make sense on any level but it is rather enlightening you see like the folks over at free republic rebel media has also already decided that the attackers were Muslims and that the police were there for delaying releasing their names because something because police or Mensa really liked Muslims I guess now adding fuel for the fire these speculations is an early witness report that cries of Allah Akbar were heard during the shooting that phrase of course being the thing that the bad guys shout on the TV when they're being evil the rebel media crew all tweeted out the Allah Akbar reports for example his otherwise uninvolved amazing brainless woman Lauren Sullivan chiming in with her obligatory duties on the subject now after the name of the shooter and remember what they're really asking when they're asking for the name of the shooter is what color was he anyway after that everyone always wants to know if the shooter shouted Allah Akbar which is of course the thing the baddies say in the movies and has no other meanings or applications at all I kid of course so the our Akbar witness report comes from CBC News in Canada who quoted an anonymous witness calling into radio-canada and saying that there were two gunmen with who look about where's right there where am I going to go with this wondering I'm going to say Quebec II with Quebec II accents who both shouted our aqua there's no identification of this witness who could literally be anyone calling in and saying any old nonsense but barring that even though they were wrong about the number of shooters they could have been right about hearing our Ackbar be spoken they were apparently at a mosque during evening prayers so I think it'd be weird to not hear our Akbar be said because of course many Muslims say Allah Akbar for a variety of reasons it's not exclusively a terrorist phrase and even be finet could have said it mockingly you know it's not the automatic Islamic terrorist signifier certain people seem to want it to be free republic user civil war brewing candidly shows us the real reason that our akbar gets such press by saying witnesses said he shouted our akbar as he fired his ak-47 definitely a white anglo-saxon Protestant trump supporter now this anonymous witness accounts will be important to the later conspiracy theory as it will be continually brought up as unexplained which is because the source was an anonymous witness calling into a radio show one time so you know whatever anyway let's move on a little in the timeline now to the point where the Canadian police released the names of the two men they were holding and one Free Republic Fred from this time is particularly notable because it's responding to an Associated Press article which says Quebec City Court Clerk Isabelle fell and identified Alexander Ethernet and mohammad al qadir as the suspects police later said one of them was just a witness though they did not say which now if I didn't know any better I'd say this was a conscious attempt to set up Islamophobes for a fall we are about to get into some wily coyote [ __ ] here we may need Sherlock Holmes to crack this case who I know which one pick me pick me which means Alexander Ethernet was the witness muhammad al qadir was the shooter otherwise we'd have been told immediately if they're holding back the information it's more likely it's the Muslim the press doesn't protect white guys I know I know hardy-har they're all wrong now unfortunately the laps didn't last all that long as very shortly after that police revealed that it was in fact Mohamed el khadiyah who was the witness and Lisa net the shooter apparently having no consideration for how funny it would have been to withhold that information for another day or so they have no sense of comic irony the police for example rebel media giant air quotes correspondent Gavin McInnes was midway through making a video about the fact that it was obviously the Muslim guy who did it which starts out like this what was it the same day that Justin Trudeau the Prime Minister of Canada in one of his silly costumes I think he was dressed like a [ __ ] that day says hey refugees being rejected from America come to Canada we have room for you as he says that shooting in a mosque and as with all shootings we have one question as a Western culture we say what was his first name please waiting and it's Mohammed okay but police released the witness before he could get it out there so he instead plays it off like the police media narrative is changing so fast we can't keep up all these new details keep coming out so fast we don't even have time to report on it you know currently missing the fact that he could just wait for the full story to do so anyway please release the Muslim witness and declare that the white Canadian bisa net is the only suspect which you might expect to be a bit of a knock to the Islamophobe narrative here but you'd be wrong we're not dealing with amateurs here you know if the shooter turned out to be beefin F by in itself would indicate nothing we have several instances in Canada of non Muslim born or raised convert sympathizers of radical Islam committing acts of terrorism nobody should assume that if be so net then white supremacist agenda is a valid paradigm wait and see wait and see yeah now it's a white guy we wait and see probably a recent convert to Islam and I have heard reports agreeing with that anyone can convert to Islam and be brainwashed it's an evil ideology now the Islamic convert angle doesn't last long in the light of emerging reports describing beefing s is a far-right wing white nationalist type at which point you'd think the Islamophobes would just give this one up it's a lost cause admit you were wrong take the hit and move on however I smell something fishy very suspect reporting to me I want more information about this incident very fishy everything is so fishy about this we just don't know enough about this case yet if this story was about an islamaphobe shooting up the mosque we'd have heard all about it by now the truth doesn't need time or delay something stinks now this comment is really something special the exact same delay that was previously supposed to indicate a Muslim shooter has been repurposed to now mean that it can't have been an Islamophobe shooter or we'd have already heard about it even though we are currently hearing about it and if we try and map out that statement logically I guess we get this didn't happen because this doesn't happen which is a pretty nifty all-purpose reality defying argument ER our paddles over at rebel media are also reluctant to give it up and hey who can blame them if you set up the website Quebec terror and send a reporter and a cameraman to the scene to do a whole bunch of news reports and get all your correspondent spending their time contributing material about it and then the shooter turns out to not be a Muslim but actually a white Canadian who doesn't like Muslims like you you must be feeling pretty [ __ ] stupid right now you are expecting to back yourself a big tasty is matera story to harp on about for the rest of the year and you instead wasted your time and money covering a story that actually harms the narrative you want to spread so they're backed into a corner at this point frankly they have to keep running with the idea that this was an act of Islamic terror which means they now have to argue that there was a cover-up and the witness who is released was the actual shooter except they're not allowed to actually say that because now it's libelous and they'll get sued so all they can do is flaccid Lee poke at it with the same tactic employed on Free Republic calm which is saying this is weird isn't that this story it's a really weird isn't that odd it's a bit fishy you know it just doesn't matter because this story is not even close to being done it's just it's so curious things here look weird that makes it super weird and that is not my conspiracy series of some speculations leech saying what happened there it's not a conspiracy theory there's a valid question and I just don't get it you know we cover kind of time again media party spin etc but for me I just don't get how we're really the only ones asking better it's so weird we're going to try our best to cover it from here I'd just like to highlight one segment for this particular video that I can't pass up commenting on let's take a look I want to know more about the suspects I want to know more about the victims I want to know more about the suspects family I want to know what drives a guy to go from zero to ten a guy who has no prior to resident absolutely is not known to police whatsoever did not post hateful things online as far as we know we have one cro refugees from telling us that he was known to their Facebook group as we an anti-feminist anti-refugee really were the evidence so where's the evidence for beefing up being a right-wing Islamophobe all we've got is witnesses saying van it's true much like another element of this story well I don't see rebel media asking for proof that our Akbar was shouted an anonymous witness statement is good enough for them on that front but when multiple named witnesses claimed that the guy was a far-right Islamophobe well now we'd like to see some evidence please witnesses suddenly aren't good enough anymore when they're saying things that we don't want to hear anyway so we've watched the narrative twist and turn and shrug off consistent attacks by reality and frankly anyone who's still on board with it by this point is primed to believe in a conspiracy theory how could they not after coming so far that pop committed to use a poker term I'd actually bet that quite a few of these people aren't really all that committed to the false flag coverup conspiracy theory side of things this is more just an ideological saving of faith it's a way to put a cap on the rather uncomfortable idea that murderers can be any color or religion or nationality and can even be someone just like you it's hard to spot the bad guys when they could be anyone it's much easier if the Muslims the bad guys they're typically easy to spot if you catch my drift so if the shoes is a Muslim then that's the fault of the Muslims obviously but if the shooter is a white islamaphobe then it's a false flag conspiracy to make Muslims look good and thus still the fault of the Muslims which is a perfect argument you know there's no countering that now before I go today I'd just like to congratulate my old pal kraut auntie and why is that well for this the attack in Quebec oh it really seems to gain wider media attention and even less in our youtube circles I have often warned of making foregone conclusions of a terrorist attacks Wendy's are still happening and this seems to be the extent to which reporting on this attack was limited brief announcements over Islamic terror and after the realization that it wasn't Islamic silence so well done Katy force oDesk Lee avoiding the trap that so many others fell into see I give credit where credit's chew you know Katy said wait and see and he avoided making himself look stupid so congratulations anyway thanks a lot for watching everyone and thank you particularly to the names of the very kind people should be scrolling past right now who are they you might be wondering well they're my supporters over on patreon which is a website but let's you give me a dollar whatever when I make a video now I don't know you but I'm imagining that you're currently feeling a sense of incredible jealousy that your name is not on this list well that's an easy fix isn't it just head over to patreon and press a few buttons and next time I put a video of your name will be up there too I myself pledge to support a few content creators that I particularly enjoy and let me tell you 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Channel: Shaun

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Keywords: shaun jen, rebel media, free republic

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Length: 25min 15sec (1515 seconds)

Published: Mon Feb 20 2017

Reddit Comments

[u/TheFatOrsonWelles]

While some will argue the merit in The Rebel and Toronto Sun, (they do cover real economic and political events in Canada, albeit with a strong right-wing bias) both outlets are staffed by racists and shock jocks. Here's a fun article on why The Sun and many people who worked for it are morally bankrupt. This is just the tip of the shit-berg.

No wonder they tried to manufacture a conspiracy when the victims were muslims and the perpetrator was a degenerate troll, who probably frequented the hate mongering content on The Rebel, or more likely the xenophobic/racist content that circulates frequently in French Canadian talk radio and local news.

[u/kunteper]

This guy is in point