Quarter panel and tail panel install. "Jade" part 25

hey gang it is Thursday March 29th 2018 and this is Brooklyn Pony part 25 that means there's 24 other videos in this series so for those of you that have just started watching these videos or those of you who have not seen any of the others I encourage you to go back and look them over this is a 68 Coupe v8 automatic car with factory a/c it had drum brakes and I did a bunch of work on the front I put in well start where I put in new floor pans torque boxes I replace all the front sheet metal put in a rebuilt 302 started converting it to vintage air and I've converted it to power disc brakes and power steering using a board missin power steering kit the brake kit is CS RP you can look them up I also replace all the front suspension and in the rear I rebuilt or took out a mini spool that was in this Ford nine-inch this rear end is out of a like a 58 or 59 mercury so it's narrower that's why it has the spacers on it came with the car so that's what I'm using and in this video I'm gonna continue on with replacing the rear sheetmetal now obviously the previous video was removing or replacing the outer wheelhouse and also that extension down there on the trunk so everything's in place now if it's welded in and I did put paint on it doesn't really need it but it doesn't hurt it so I've had some viewers asked about that so I did cover everything up and later on there will be seam sealer added down here in this gap and also in the internal gap there will be seam sealer added so that's not what this video is about though this video is about installing the tail panel and this is a part number for the tail panel right there for Mustangs Unlimited in this quarter panel now in the previous video I showed problems I had with this quarter panel and this is the part number if you are at all interested I think you can read that maybe not yeah it's there okay so basically I did a fitment test mocked everything in place when I put the wheelhouse in and that all went pretty smooth I did have fitment issues with the quarter to the door and I'll get into that in a minute but this this video is going to cover how I how I am installing this quarter panel if you'll notice I did cut I left the gutter for the original quarter even though this had somebody else to put aftermarket quarters on it a long time ago and they just overlapped the original piece that was left and these quarters I don't know what they were on or designed for but they had these recess areas here similar to a 67 but definitely not you can see the panel was rounded off quite a bit and all the forming and shaping was done with filler that's what all this is right here so I'm that's the main reason I'm replacing these the other thing is in the back when I took this and started stripping the metal or putty off I found a half-inch of bondo right here and that was to compensate for the valance panel to fit the bottom of this quarter is round doesn't have any transitions whoops sorry there's no good transitions in this quarter and nothing like your factory one and so comparing that to is this one which appears to have a pretty decent stamping up front here I'll get into that more later the bottom as this recess area which it's supposed to have hope you can see that okay hard to get my hand down there and then this back section also has this recessed area and this is where the valence would meet so that compensates for the problems with the panels that were on the car I'll get into fitment as I go along and I'll show you more details as you can see I have the tail panel mocked in place I did use some self-tapping screws up here to hold it in I also if you'll see there's some silver marker in these holes that's where the original spot wells were that I drilled through to remove this and these were drawn with silver sharpie that's where I will bare the metal later to prep it for welding so the tail panel it fits really nice it's it's a really good fit to this car as you can see I've got it set up against the bottom edge of this original panel the original drop that would be here it doesn't quite line up with holes but it's close enough and those holes are for the valance panel and again that's they're fine I'm more worried about the up and down fitment then having a little bit of an issue with these holes and I can compensate for that same way with the mount holes for the bumper again I'm more concerned with how it fits up and down as opposed to it matching these holes exactly these I can open up it's much easier to deal with other than that it lines up pretty nice same thing over here I did marked all these holes again with Sharpie so that I can prep the medal for weld I'm not too worried about this side because I'm not working on this quarter right now I'm really focusing on giving the tail panel in place along with the quarter pretty much at the same time see what else was there in the front here when I removed the old Puerto Rican reference the old video there was you can see these he's just a spot drill to remove the previous welds and then I had to grind through the welds from that replacement panel so that took a little bit of effort there are welds down here where the top of the quarter overlaps it rolls down into that section so just know that typically I put the window down and I we're having whatever I have left over from when I cut the quarter off originally I mangle that up and grind out those welds so that's all been removed up here there's lead the original scene is covered in lead an original tale panel actually had a flange that went up behind here it's up quite a bit fact I put my hands up I can touch the top of it basically it's for the top of my fingers are so what I'm getting at is it's near impossible to replace the full quarter without having to do something to that roof the sale panel and it's easier the way in my opinion way I'm doing it is what I cut off this old quarter I can but the well but the new piece up to it so I've trimmed that down already and I want to point out this to this little relief or whatever is going on right here this was packed full of lead and that was factories whatever was gone going on here I don't know but you can see a little bit of a line I don't know if that's a flange or not but from here up this is lead and this is steel so anytime you're working with this stuff you want to remove as much lead as you can and being that I'm gonna be doing spot welds I'm not gonna remove all this lid I'll just use slow welds and so I don't get the heat and mouth and get that led to melt but at this point this had a hue huge wad of lead in here that I'd already ground out what else was there again as I talked about I cut off the quarter and I left this little I don't know 3/16 of an inch of the flange hanging over so that's where also but the quarter panel to it and again if you look at the previous video you already know that I've I've always kept this quarter to match mostly to this car and so now I'll just go through some other details that I'm working on or this lower flange you see this right here this makes the rocker panel totally I've had to put a relief cut here but this one seems to fit fine it looks like they're burning kind of the burning had the table down in place I'm just gonna sit on top of it now for the most part if it's fine for the most part they're clamped in place where you go to where it fits the wheelhouse now in the previous video or I show you the wheel house process I've pointed out that this top corner here of this replacement quarter panel this is where it fit and it it had an odd it's set to high where it met this face here especially since this is already making contact with this corner brace which is firmly attached to the tail panel now what I had to do was I drilled out these little spot welds and that allowed this to come down and I could push it in and that's gonna be a lot closer when I get to the final stage of welding but just something to note also down here where this spot weld was I drilled it out because as you can see this is that a quite a bit of an angle and that's where it's at whenever I found whenever I got it so I cut a relief there and now I can rotate this up and clamp it in place and reweld that so quite a bit of difference and you can see it's gonna affect a little bit up here when I push it up but that'll all compensate whenever I have this in place it's just moving because it can right now so I'll take care of this top section get it clamped in and then also clamp this in later the other thing I wanted to show well here up on top and this is just a matter of trimming you got to get these pieces as close as you can so in this case I do I have a pretty tight gap and you can probably see now this quarter sits up quite a bit well when I push it down like and it's hard to do it in one hand but I push it down and rotate it in and I get it's a lot smaller and almost goes away as I go further back so that's a good thing here is where I've trimmed it a little bit so that it would go in line with this original piece and minor adjustments that can be made there you can see that's I'll tell you I have that yep here at the front you'll see that the quarter is actually a little bit long you see that gap and that's not a good thing what happens is when you shut the door and I should note that the door is on the original location I did have the door off but I never took off the hinges and so I put everything back on the original witness marks I had never moved the striker so the strikers in the right place and now this is much obviously much too tight so my fix and I mentioned this in the previous video is I'm actually going to cut this somewhere along here and bring it back I'll section out an eighth maybe a little over an eighth of an inch to compensate for this butting against here there's really no other way to fix that so I'll move that back and then the other thing which is kind of hard to show you right now with the because the doors catching or hitting the rocker is I want to show this as well this I made a cardboard template of the door and I've shown this in the previous video I'm sorry if I'm showing it again but some people may not have seen it I made a cardboard template of the door to show and this is an original door hasn't been messed with and the quarter panel doesn't have that same profile come down here you can see it's off come up here and you can see it's off which means is this center section is well basically too shallow and so to remedy that what I did I put a relief cut there a relief cut here which is basically along with this transition same way here and I put it another little one right there and what happens is when I push in on that see if I can see this okay when I push in on that you can see how much that changes and that's gonna allow the quarter that's gonna allow the quarter to line up with the door I know it's kind of hard to show you this with one hand but I think you get the idea so I'm gonna move along and start prepping for all this to take place so here I have the tail panel and you can see I picked up a just a pattern of holes here that I drilled that will mate with this flange as I talked about earlier I've also sprayed this with weld through primer and my primer of choice is 3m part number zero five nine one seven so I've done that I've also sprayed primer on the backside of these flanges here and here and I've drilled a hole beside the bolt holes for the bumper and also weld it to those I need to spray some primer on there now that I see that and also up here at the top I drilled two holes and those will coincide with this area and then I drilled through these and I will weld those from the inside and that will mate with the inside of the panel there other than that I did put some bare the metal where the holes that are drilled up here will mate and also back on this surface here this is where the quarter panel will overlap as you can see there and what else was there I see I missed a spot I'm gonna put a little primer there too I've also put the quarter panel and I'll show more of that later on now again the plan is to get the tail panel in place and then put the quarter on after so now that everything's prepped [Music] [Music] [Music] once again I'm I'm happy with the fit things lying right back up where they were supposed to be and so I'm going to weld this tail panel in place [Music] so now the tail panel is fully welded in and of course I'll grind down those welds and retouch them is necessary to make sure they're nice and smooth and as you can see I've set the quarter panel on the car and what I wanted to show you one of the things that I always try to show is I took a sharpie you went through all the holes that I had prepared in the quarter and I'll bear the metal on the wheelhouse and then I'll put a little bit of well through primer on that as well same way down here I marked contact points here and I'll do the same thing so that's working out already I'm not going to add any wealthy primer on this surface it's a butt weld and of course I'll have to kinda hard to show you have like you can see the maybe see where those holes are now there it is and what I'll probably end up doing is using a piece of wood and wedging it in here to push this back so it's nice and tight against that inner structure as you can see I drew a rough line where I'm going to cut off the front edge and the quarter panel and I want to make sure I get enough material removed that I can slide this back and it'll butt against the face of the b-pillar so that'll be that'll be the next step that I do I wanted to show you this before I finished but that's what I cut off of the front face of the quarter and now I've started a second cut and now you can see how much I'm not moving not even the width of the cutting blade so that's that's going to take up and hopefully take care of that gap so if you need a profile I have one but I'm gonna shorten the cut up here a little bit because I think it's gonna fit better when I get to the top so I don't need to cut it all the way off like I'm doing right now okay so as you can see I've remounted the quarter panel here's the edge that I had cut off and really you know I left a little bit of that on that flange like I was shown earlier so now what I plan to do is test fit this and see how much material I need to remove if any more or see if it's close enough and I believe you have to pick up some more material because if I just but that against it's too tight down here at the bottom and I really need to move remove probably just another maybe sixteenth to an eighth of an inch so I kind of gives you an idea what I'm going for and I'll do that I'll take it back off and trim this just a little bit more and refit this and when I'm happy with it I'll come back and start tacking this back together again every man at the quarter panel and I think that was the amount of material I needed to remove right there because that makes for a nice gap or may look a little big right there but that's because it's so dark you can't see the actual edge but yep that's what's going to go and I'm gonna get set up and tack weld this back together [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] okay so I'm done shortening this and blending most of this there's still a little bit to do but I think you get the idea here and I want to show something else you know you can see again the door is lined up on the hinges where it was before so nothing's changed with the door and we already I've already shown how this corner panel doesn't want to line up now I was referencing some conversation I had with a follower on the channel James and he had asked me problems what about problems he had with a 67 similar situation where these wouldn't line up and I said hey you know sometimes it might help to just cut off that lower flange so I want to share that with you because I had sometimes I have to take my own advice being that this is sitting where it is and you can hopefully see these lines are off just slightly it's kind of hard debt yeah but anyway these lines are off so if I let the lower section slide out this whole quarter drop it down and that line gets read on the money now granny I still have to you know deal with this shape but I can press that in easier since I'm you know that made these relief cuts that I talked about but to get this line better it's easier to bring this out so what I'll end up doing is I'll cut cut off and it's not much it's just a little tiny bit that needs to be adjusted off this bottom and it takes care of both of these lines so that would be my my next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to cut off that bottom section and then fit this the way it should be and work that back in and show you how that looks okay so like I said I cut off the bottom and I didn't I didn't act I cut too well I cut my line with that cut off wheel that I have from Harbor Freight and then I probably did one more width now your results may vary we don't know exactly what's gonna fit your car in this situation but now I'll be able to take that piece and just with a little manipulation you can see it popped in there but get that lined up and tack weld that in and that's gonna take care of the bottom of this and also address you know these other little fitment issues that I had so I'm pretty happy with that other than I shouldn't have to do this honestly as I've discussed before these panels are they're okay they're not the greatest and you know like from what the conversations I've had with other people they've had similar problems and had to address them in a similar way but this is just how I'm doing it and we get that tacked in and we'll go on from there [Music] everything is welded and blended and I like the line now as well as how it fits and I'm gonna pull this back off and go over a couple things and get ready to weld this together okay so I cook the back side of the panel I did blend down these welds and put some paint on there and on the back side of the contact surface to the b-pillar up put some wealthy primer same with all the other areas what I'm gonna be welding that's all prepped I'm not worried about the top scene where the quarter meets the sale panel prepped all back here same way down there if I haven't mentioned before I did paint all the welded areas inside on the wheelhouse and there's more weld through there and then weld through on the b-pillar so the main thing I'm gonna worry about once I start fitting this up is protecting this glass and I have some cardboard here that I will slip in whatever I'm doing my my welding and first thought I probably should lay that wire where I wanted to go now so that I'm not fighting with it later just something to think about there and I should be it so I'm gonna get this quarter mounted up for the final time and start welding it [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] okay so you can see all the welds around that perimeter now some of those I'd need to add more material to but I just wanted to get everything in place I still have a little bit of a gap up here which it's not gonna get any smaller obviously so I'll work that in with tack welds fits the roof line nicely happy with that same way up here you probably see how I was pushing in and out until I got the shape that I wanted and I'm happy with that internally I did the same thing I've got you know welds that they'll need more weld at it to them but for now that's all I really wanted to do is get everything in place and it looks like it's fitting pretty good I shut the trunk the reveal is good and I know I've mentioned before about this extension and if you look you'll see it ended up a little bit off on that corner and if I put the extension in place you can see where it's gonna need some help there and what I'll end up doing is likely I will straighten out this flange since it's only get all the spot welds are broke loose I will straighten that out Andrey bend it to where it matches this corner and that'll change this angle overall because I want to keep this corner but I'll have to manipulate it and get it as close as I can to that corner so that would be a little bit of a little bit of a thing to work on but shouldn't be too bad so like I said I'm gonna keep on you know tacking all this in and I'll work on this and try to get that taken care of and show you how that turns out pretty happy with it I think it's gonna be fine and off they obviously move on and get the other side done as well so what I ended up doing here was I straightened this flange out with a pair of duckbill pliers is used a lot in the aircraft industry and then I tack welded this down once I had that straightened out I tack this down and went to the original corner and then I was able to roll that back carefully I put this it's kind of a slap bar I think they call them but I put it up behind and got it in this corner and acted as a reinforcement now even though that's roughly taken care of the extension if you put it on it lines up pretty close I mean there's still still some stuff about to be addressed with some filler but that center section if you look at the extension it dips down and so I put a little relief cut and I probably could have come over a little further this way with that relief cut but by doing that you can see that it'll curve hopefully you see it'll curve out a little bit that I need to follow the shape of the extension a lot better so let me get this welded in place and I'll go on from there all right I think this is as far as I'm gonna go on this video I think I've covered a lot of details you can see I've welded this and blended it and there's still a couple little pinholes off to address but I think it's good a couple little little spots I got a welt in I also loaded in the holes where the vinyl top trim was before and then this area here I think that's going to be addressed with a little bit of filler because that there was there before like I said but that's I'm not gonna weld all that in the edge here I'm happy with and like I said I've still got a few little wells to fill in I haven't welded these yet to the inner brace but I wouldn't go to really show you much of that anyway because Cameron won't fit in there but I will press that over it'll probably like I said before with a piece of wood press that over and weld those in and you know one of the things to do is weld the inside flange down here and I can access that from the inside roll the glass up and take care of that you can just see that where the holes are down there so I think that's it the end result I'm happy with the way the door lines up now it's happy with the gap this rear section you're still gonna take some filler to fully dress this out and that's not unexpected but for the most part that lines up pretty close to where it needs to be and it will take a little bit you know of effort to dress it all up and again here's the bottom area with these you know I talked about before I won't blend this down to match or cut that off to match same way here this X disappea singing down is from the internal panel so I'll cut that off to match as well things are lined up pretty good on the wheelhouse cameras showing it very well but I still have to finish well then all the little little welds and otherwise I'm I'm pretty happy with that of course the tail panel and all that's in place and I think that's it there's more videos to come I'm not gonna mess with or make any video of the right side it's the same process as the driver side and it would be kind of pointless to cover all that it says should also show you the trunk happy with that reveal as well well this quarter pound took a lot more work than I expected it to so I'm somewhat disappointed with that but as we all know these aftermarket panels none of her are dead on anyway the only ones I really had good luck with is an original totally tail panel particular to the 65 or 66 this this table panel fit very well so I'm happy with that at least now you have an idea of what it took for me to install this quarter panel and give you some idea what you might look forward to if you want to try it I think that's all I'm going to do on this car I'm not going to do any video on the right side because it's the same process and it's not really necessary and there anymore on this car later I need to get back on it broke the pony and get some stuff done on it and looking forward to that now just sometimes I need to do different things and get my batteries going again as usual what I thank you for watching and if you are so common you know give a thumbs up or a thumbs down either way if you don't like it I understand share my video and if you haven't already subscribe somewhere over here there will be a subscribe button so and I'll make this to my other videos as well so again thanks for watching and take care yourself

Channel: Jo Daddy's Garage

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Keywords: 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, ford, mustang, coupe, convertible, shelby, california special, csgt, gt, gt350, gt500, sheet metal, quarter panel, tail panel, welding, mustangs unlimited, grinding, best video, harbor freight, lincoln welder, 3M, weld thru primer, spot welds, plug welds, how to, diy, fast n loud, overhaulin, velocity, shifting gears, muscle car, hot rod, 302, jade, door, trunk lid, sail panel

Id: nb2u12PWO0g

Length: 40min 52sec (2452 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 07 2018