Q&A w/ Dr. Gene Kim | SJBBC

all right does anybody have the first question anybody have a first question anybody brother al oh missionary has one too but let's go with ralph first who is that okay so we're gonna look at mark 1451 i'm going to give you the liberal professors interpretation that i learned at the university of california at berkeley so they actually have a bible class believe it or not and you would say why would you take that class preacher that'd be the last class you take right because i want to know their understanding where they come from so and their interpretation of mark 14 51 is that because they try to find anything sodomite that's what they do that's what liberals and sodomites do they try to find any connotation of something homosexual in there and they think that the apostle john has a relationship with jesus so then what they try to do is that they tried to tie that to the apostle john where he's the one with the naked body because he leaned at jesus bosom so then they tried to give those kind of references i think that the teacher was also a jew too a liberal jew that's one of the worst groups that you can ever talk to actually is actually a liberal jew concerning about that uh naked young man i do not know uh who it is or what it is i do know this though is that if you look at the book of john it mentions that jesus took his disciples up with him at john 17 and it seems like it's only the 11. it seems like only the 11 is there if you look at john 17 it mentions that jesus said that i didn't lose uh any of them except the son of perdition and then he was speaking of the 11 over there so it really sounds like that there were only 11 of those people there so we don't know who this young man is it could be possible that uh at john 17 when that took place that there were other people who later joined and to go inside the garden of gethsemane i know that dr rutman he mentions that some people might think that it could be mark or it could be lazarus and then he mentions that lazarus is more probable and the reason why is this is because if you look at the book of john chapter 12 lazarus he was kind of like john sitting right next to jesus and being close to him so we don't know who this young man is but i can tell you one thing sometimes what happens is when you do street preaching or when you do soul winning there's sometimes some weirdo who might be half dressed too and they might just join the fray and when you're street preaching they might just yell along with you so you never thought it could just be some random young man person that uh god didn't think that it was a big deal just some random joe that came out of nowhere so you could it could be that possibility too you never thought of that i mean think about it if we all did street reach and there's some of these weirdos with us and then we got arrested one of these naked guys would be running and then they match with the book of mark and then there's your answer there and you go this is kind of common you know it's just common in everyday life situations all right now good question yes all right missionary piso in ezekiel 47. okay yes yes ah that's a good point over there so why would we need medicine so in other words uh you're talking about a genesis environment where it's a garden of eden right so why would we need medicine so uh thankfully i did teach that a while ago if i didn't teach that i'd probably say i don't know so when i was teaching verse by verse and revelation it mentions uh even at eternity eternity the leaves were for the healing of the nations so then you're at a uh you're at a perfect state so why would there be healing so this is the interesting part the interesting part is this is that if you first realize one is that the bodies of the people during that time are different from our bodies that's the first thing to understand so the people at the tribulation the millennium their bodies differ from our bodies what are the examples the easy one of the easiest examples is that they repopulate so they repopulate whereas we don't all of us there is no marriage in heaven we have the transformation of the body of the lord jesus christ which is like the highest honor you can ever think of so because the bodies are different so our bodies when we're raptured and transformed the bible says philippians chapter 3 as well as first corinthians chapter 15 and uh so at those passages we're tr in first john chapter three first john chapter three that our bodies are like the body of jesus christ so it's eternal so it's an eternal immortal body whereas at the millennium it's more of longevity type of bodies we gotta understand it's longevity type of bodies so we need to understand that because it's a longevity type of body that's why there are passages that mention in the millennium that if you live wickedly that time that it would be about a hundred years long and they would die and then whereas the righteous person would live much longer so it's a longevity time period so uh that would be the answer concerning about healing is to keep them where they take in the leaves to keep them going but here's the interesting part i'm not going to really get into this but if you look at revelation chapter 22 it talks about 12 manners of fruits in their seasons if you uh talk about uh well if you can think about a seasonal human timetable we divide it to 12 months so then that's where dr upman teaches uh really deep stuff and i forgot all my teachings on that one but basically at your birthday you go to the 12 gates that's why it says 12 gates at revelation 21 22. so you go to your designated launching destination flight gate and you go over there and you partake your fruit which goes at your birthday month but an interesting thing also oh what was the connection over there uh what's also interesting is that how he connects that is that in revelation 22 it's the gentiles that are partaking in it because it says nations that are partaking in it and then when you look at deuteronomy and probably first chronicles it talks about that when god created the heavens and he's talking about the sun moon and stars the universe that it's divided among the gentile nations as if he divided the 12 tribes to the nation of israel so then the universe is divided 12 parts and you makes you wonder why people uh some of the devil's crowd can see that with your birthdays out in the universe it connects to 12 different um types of there's a constellation or something to your birthday so it goes like that yes sir pastor gorski i just listened to uh i was sent a message yeah interesting in that message he made the statement that he was purchased with the blood from the foundation of the uh of [Laughter] but you got good preaching bless god all right first uh do you know the passage blood from the foundation because that's where calvinists mess up actually so probably first peter let me take a look over there so first peter let's see they go to revelation 13 i bet you it's that revelation the calvinists always use that one let's go to the book of revelation let's look at chapter 13 and then yeah it's verse 8 yes so i think that's the passage spurgeon would be referring to but then i want you to see first peter chapter one first peter chapter one and compare that with hebrews which is gonna contradict it's gonna contradict scripture calvinists they always like to pretend that they're more scriptural than you and that they know so much bible but you can point out to them that they actually contradict their own scripture hebrews 9 go to hebrews 9 revelation 13 and first peter 1. now notice over here that uh the blood or where jesus christ sacrificed is not starting ever since from the foundation of the world look at revelation chapter 13 verse 8 and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him whose names are not written in the book of life of the land of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world so this is their pointer that when the lamb was slain it was from the foundation of the world but the problem is this the problem is is if you look at from the foundation of the world how do you not know so it can go either or all right to be fair with calvinist how do you not know that from the foundation of the world is referring to the names written in the book of life or the book of life itself because the subject is not the lamb slain the subject is the book of life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world so from the foundation of the world is referring to the bulk of life from the foundation of the world how do they not know that but let's take into account maybe it is talking about the blood of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world look at first peter chapter one first peter chapter one the calvinist always messes up they always uh they always confuse election or predestination and combine that they don't separate they combine it with for knowledge for knowledge yeah so you gotta understand this how do you not know that concern about the lamb slain from the foundation of the world if that's the case that god was talking about that he was for knowing and that he foreordained that from the foundation of the world from there that i would have the lamb slain because look at first peter chapter one first peter chapter one we'll read verse 19 but with the precious blood of christ as of a lamb without blemish and without spot who verily was look at this what for ordained before the man of foundation of the world but look at this one it could not have started from the foundation but was what manifest in these last times for you oh congratulations john calvin now this is worse for them look at hebrews 9 this is much worse look at hebrews chapter 9. this is much worse what makes them different from a catholic with a continual perpetual sacrifice look at hebrews chapter 9. how are you going to answer this one you're going to look at verse 25 nor yet that he should offer himself often see he can't do that often as a high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others for then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world but now once it once in the end of the world there you go okay give give charles hat and spurgeon hebrews 9 26. next question amen missionary cecil chick sir can you explain first corinthians 15 28 ooh okay let me take a look do you have a couple things in mind what you're thinking about maybe well i mean it's one of the places where dr robin says each week's niche i might say that too first corinthians chapter 15 verse 28 what larkin taught yeah i was actually thinking about maybe teaching that tonight but then i didn't really get into that but there's an interesting book so let me just explain first corinthians 15 28 where it's very sneak that part is where larkin he has an interesting teaching but that one is just i don't know i need to study that more but even dr utman says i don't know so larkin mentions that at once we start eternity so this is after the millennium after the millennium there's a period of 33 000 years and i don't know how he calculated that and i even said that i don't teach it but larkin taught it that's what i said i said i don't know if it's true and then onliners started storming with comments i don't see that in the bible what are you teaching over here that's crazy that's heresy i'm like i don't know but i'm always open i'm always open to different men of god how the lord gave to them but i need to study for myself the point is is that larkin teaches after a period of 33 000 years then everything goes back into god again now there's an interesting book that i would not recommend but if you're already mature in the scriptures or you've uh already experienced the ministry i would recommend it's a book by trench who's who's a dispensationalist too and the book is called after the 1000 years so he was a classical uh he was during the classical dispensationalist timeline so that one might have something yes kind of a part two but how do can you explain like when we all go back into god like what what is that i have no idea so there are two things there are two things there are two things that dawn up on my mind for this one so then first corinthians chapter 15 verse 28 so what's going to happen uh which could be possible is that verse 27 and 28 could be referring to that eternity so when it starts eternity rather than after 33 000 years and then there's this other time period it's possible that 27 28 because verse 26 last enemy destroyed his death so that's undoubtedly revelation 20 where death and hell's cast into the lake of fire so after that time then we could probably put 27 and 28 where gradually he's trying to put everything into himself where he has dominion over everything where he subdues everything why because he's uh finally cleaning off everything here because remember people are uh if you look at revelation 22 god says those who are clean and turn to the gates but then those who are without they're cast into the lake of fire so during this time he's uh i'm not really sure but he mentions new heaven new earth new jerusalem so he's making everything brand new and remember if you know ephesians chapter one and two and you know colossians chapter one as well as hebrews chapter one those chapters talk about the whole creation universe is god's clothing himself so it could be that everything where it's subdued is where all of evil is subdued stamped out and he finally takes full control so there's no little ufo and outer space demonic creature flying in the middle of the second heaven anywhere you gotta make sure that everything's subdued so that's possibility one possibility two it could be where it just goes all back into god just like in the beginning in the beginning where god always is because why is that possible the reason why that's possible is because when it's so amazing when you study the book of revelation just try to go backwards it's like genesis going forward you can see a lot of similar instances of that so it may be that the lord he might be uh taking everything back into him and that's why it could make sense why we're known as the body of christ one and then uh number two where oh that the people are god's family so then they belong to him and uh it can also probably explain where god he is inside all of us right now where god is inside all of us and then you see passages in john where it's like uh where god is in you and you are in him so maybe god is seeing a bigger picture over here in the future usually when god talks about something a lot of times he's thinking about a future time period that's why we believe in dispensationalism or he'll be thinking about a past time period have you ever thought of that god he is timeless that's the thing we humans need time because we're stupid we're humans but god he's timeless so that could be one reason i don't know but it could be another reason why so many of the devil's religions and pagans kind of see that so then they mention about some things that try to imitate it like reincarnation or repetitive cycle etc or god swallowing up everything in the universe where the universe is practically god usually the devil's lies he's getting it from somewhere not just thin air he's getting it from somewhere and we know that he always imitates what god does so that's all i can say for that one and you just have to ask larkin and trench when you go to heaven and they those two could be wrong so you need to ask jesus all right pastor gorski oh let's go to brother robert first because i already answered you sir so i'll go to brother robert then i'll go back to you all right yeah yeah i hate you too brother all right so brother so bro so brother robert my question is about daniel 7 4 it says that the chair of the lion they said that it was given a man's heart i never quite understood that i figured maybe because like you know doc says it it could be greece right so maybe that could just be right because the next one is to see rome and they had teeth and they go devour things so that's kind of like rome taking over the world so maybe greece they were all lovey-dovey i don't know just throwing things in there right yeah so i do know that in verse 4 a lot of people they will try to think that this is referring to babylon with nebuchadnezzar but that's not true this is actually persia so persia is the one starting off at verse 4. that's why they think that the man's heart was given to it so they were thinking that it would be nebuchadnezzar when he was punished by god but actually if you look at the scriptures this is where daniel he gets the vision where these kingdoms are upcoming but he was already at the last uh period of uh belshazzar of babylon so then these prophecy of upcoming kingdoms can't be babylon and the other ones he's already in it and he's almost at the end of it that's why dr upman teaches which is different from other teachers which is what i agree with is that it's the first beast is persia um for persia let's see first was like a lying and had eagle's wings i beheld till the wings thereof were plucked and it was lifted up from the earth and made stand upon the feet as a man and a man's heart was given to it to be quite honest i really don't know i really don't know uh maybe there are some people who might remember from their daniel class about that but some wild i can throw some wild ideas what's going on in my mind so some wild ideas i do know that persia was responsible for helping the children of israel where they were settling in so they were settling in and reinstating their city jerusalem if you recall the jews when they travel for their safe haven the bible says wings like as an eagle so the jews when they were taking their flight back into jerusalem it's probably representing where persia helped them on that but more so it's because it's a griffin that's the main reason why the eagles wings given to that lion is because it's a griffin which is the symbol of persia itself but then what i'm trying to dig into is why is it a griffin why would it have ankle swings perhaps because persia did that for the nation of israel and usually when it talks about uh man's heart given to it i think that phrase if i recall my bible reading is more like you you have human emotions and then persia helped them with the eagles wings to transfer and had humane compassion where they helped rebuild their empire but me that's just a wild thought that i had so i don't know but anyone who might remember from their daniel class i am definitely all ears about what you may have heard about that one all right so uh pastor gorski then all right so i recently uh i think i was telling you listen to the radio debate between james white and geo ripley he makes a statement he says i don't think the new versions promote or allow for sin how would you answer james white the new versions promote or allow for sin i don't think so with james why when you do a debate with him what you need to do is to clarify it with him that's how he always overruns his opponents that's his wicked messed up tactic so what you need to do which he which is what he hates is you slow him down so what i would do is i would act like a typical liberal professor asking a student so what did you mean by that i want to clarify that we have a better understanding here so i'm not misunderstanding your statement and when you usually do that with james white he gets confused himself he usually throws out terms that's make believe and he don't know what he's talking about that's one thing i know about fast debaters you notice why people when they debate they'll try to talk fast with big words they're trying to overrun you but if you stop them and slow them down and make them contemplate on what they're saying you'll catch them contradicting so there was this roman catholic who posted a video of the title is james white contradicts james light and he got him really really good and james white got super duper angry and what did he do he talked rabbit speed 100 mile per hour again all angry and emotional but that roman catholic caught him good so it was a catholic it wasn't a believer either it was a catholic so but so what i would do is clarify and uh ask him what did he mean by that so can you repeat that again and then i'll think about what his interpretations are so um so new versions because he was trying to say that gail riplinger tries to connect sin with the new version so he he says i don't think the new versions do promote sin or allow for sin okay no that's that's a simple the simple debunking to that is yes it did because i don't have to pull up doctrinal differences or manuscript evidence the simple answer is this the simple answer is once you have the bible in your hand the bible says you corrupt the word that's found at second corinthians chapter two revelation 22 says don't take away the words from the book or it'll take away your name out of the book of life so that's not sin i don't know what is so then we have to debate about if those modern versions are truly adding or taking away words then that's where we have to declare the debate on manuscript evidence or doctrinal differences yeah see you have to clarify with uh i'm not going to say it but you have to clarify well i don't want to give the nickname doctor up and gavin but you have to you have to catch wicked evil people like that so you can stomp them they talk like that to walk all over you to belittle you i cannot stand that that's why i have this mean attitude i have on youtube on these wicked scholars kind of overrun people like that and then what i like to do let me say this one last thing to just uh just stupefied scholars but one last thing i want to say is i usually poke fun at them by saying you guys didn't even graduate from good schools any of my members could apply to those online degree schools did you graduate from berkeley and all that and james white gave me uh he well never mind but i do that to poke fun at them so that's how angry i am i am at them and don't let these guys overrun you always catch them and say what did you mean by that i want to clarify what you mean by that so that i can see there's not a misunderstanding here thank you yes sir all right uh brother jared oh and uh oh yeah so deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 26 so this is one of those actually problem text questions or errors in the king james bible that we had to answer at pvi which is pretty good so deuteronomy 14 26 it says thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusts after for oxen or for sheep or for wine or for strong drink or for whatsoever thy soul desireth and thou shalt eat there before the lord thy god and thou shalt rejoice thou and thine household so this is very important if you look at verse 26 the simple answer here's the easy answer the easy answer is you can get whatever you want oxen sheep wine strong drink etc but notice that it didn't say drink it said eat so it's not drinking this well what do you do well it says that they're going before the lord their god at their temple what do they do with the wine and the strong drink if you go before the temple you pour it out that's called the drink offering so they have that so that's how you can answer this one successfully so that's usually the answer that can be helpful yes sir all right all right so don't go out drinking less and learn amen you know he actually he brought out a good point he brought out a good point people they do honor so this is supposed to be honoring if you actually pour out strong drink over a grave or some kind of memorial so that's a pretty good point all right all right do we have uh other prayer requests don't bring budweiser at a christian funeral okay as a drink offering yeah all right brother robert garcia so this was actually asked to me during one of the youth uh uh youth bible studies but luckily it was like us at the very end and everybody's taking like as a rhetorical question but uh uh where i mean can you show like in the bible what are emotions like what are they more tied to because i always say flesh you know that's more so what i'll point to like you know it's the more it's most likely your flesh you know but that you know there's other times so that is one of my uh that's one of the things subjects that i love researching and that was kind of tied with tonight i'm not gonna try so it was um remember the subject that was probably the deepest in there and probably the most controversial was seoul at tonight's bible study that's an interesting subject um i studied actually psychology and psychology is actually study of the soul so that's why doctor i strongly believe the worst subject you can ever study in school is actually uh not the evolution science but it's psychology i strongly believe that because they're not evolution concentrates on the physical fleshly aspects psychology attacks and concentrates on the soul so it's a battle of the soul over here psychology obviously there's a lot of uh there's some elements of truth that you can find but that's how satan plays his game right he always uh gives something that benefits you but it's only an element of truth overall has a big consequence so the study of the soul is very very interesting the easiest answer to this if you start with this foundation everything else is going to connect the soul is the real you that's the best answer the soul is the real you so think about this uh colossians chapter two is the prime example uh whom also you are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands you circumcised but the you is not the body physical state body the you is in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of christ so the you is not the body this is referring to the soul you might say how do you know it's the soul because who is the real you that uh when after you die you go to heaven or hell right you don't go in the grave and the bible says the spirit goes back to god so we know the real you is the soul and psychology it makes so much sense because what they're trying to study is the real you yeah so they always think about what's going on in your unconscious mind they would call it or what you're really thinking because they're trying to discover your real intentions your heart that becomes dangerous where satan tries to claw in and plays games with you so uh but aside from that the thing is is the soul is such a very interesting study that's why psychology they get into what your thoughts are but not just thoughts more so emotions because the reason why they love emotions more in the study of the soul is because man is mostly dictated by how they feel not how they think we live in that kind of a generation we live in that kind of a generation but that's why god understands that it that soul is a natural function that way so he does give things that pleases our emotions like praise him shouting running the aisle bless god you know or uh comfort from the scripture see comfort is a feeling of emotion so happiness and joy is an emotion and not only that the fruit of the spirit is love joy peace a lot of these are emotional aspects so god understands this is important that our soul needs so it's a normal bodily function not bodily it's the normal function of the soul but it's the same thing with the body the body has normal functions too it starves it craves um it wants to do something and god understands that so he allows us to enjoy richly all things first timothy chapter six but the point is is the point is is that it's got to have a boundary there can be abuse of that you can go over the limitations or it can be a wrong desire it can be a wrong desire so those are the limitations so when dispensationalists larkin talked about body soul and spirit and he talked about soul as the mind or the consciousness i really think there's a connection over there there's a connection over there because it's referring to the real you so why does the bible talk about emotions being sinful or connected to the body because there's an interesting there's a very interesting paper but liberal psychologists strongly believe that body is connected to soul so whatever your body functions then it'll affect your mind they call that the uh psyche soma which is interesting soma body psyche soul but hey if you believe in the doctrine of spiritual circumcision we were way ahead of those uh phd psychologists amen when you are lost in your sin your soul is connected to your body that's why they cannot understand our spiritual beliefs because they go by psyche soma the soul going with the body what's understandable but we go by the spirit under the new testament under that new testament what do we go by we go by uh the spirit how the spirit leaves in the word of god and that totally contradicts the soma the body so when there are christians who do counseling or any form of psychology it has to be based not on soma it has to be based on yuma it has to be based on spirit not on body that's very important the bot the bible is the function and the material and the authority that you need to give comfort and peace and guidance to your soul because your soul needs something spiritual but if you don't feed it spiritually your soul and that's the basic doctrine of the victorious christian life is that when if you don't follow the things of the spirit then you have to replace it with something and then it will go for the flesh every time every time you can't conquer your fleshly addictions by just ignoring it getting rid of it you have to replace it with something because your soul is starving for something okay last question missionaries to sell chick sir someone else oh did someone else have a question if not then missionaries to sell chicken clothes you mentioned uh you quoted revelation 20 22 uh 18-19 uh since there is probably most likely saved people that have taken or added from the words of god yeah how is their name gonna be taken out that is a good question and that always bugged me too so then what i did was this is that now this is uh first of all i just want to say this i think that uh i wanna first clarify that i think this is gonna be my point of view and other bible-believing preachers may have different points of view so we gotta understand that fact because everyone's studying the bible okay so we all gotta understand that fact so this is just my point of view and i can be wrong all right so this one in verse 18 and 19 he's testifying to every man that's what it says right every man they hear the words prophecy of this book verse 19 any man take away the uh words of the prophecy of this book now look at this he'll take away his part of the book of life and now the holy city but look at the context when he's speaking to these people if we think that maybe verse 18 and 19 let's say that that is the church age then what are we gonna do about verse 14 he's speaking to men too blessed are they that do his commandments that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city for without our dogs whoremongers so he's always contrasting righteous and wicked that's the context on dalian revelation 22. he's contrasting righteous and wicked during the timeline of the millennium so then verse it is very possible 1819 could be a reference toward a different dispensation too but a future dispensation like verse 14 is a future dispensation but another interesting thing is that it says holy city out of the holy city verse 19. and that wording just matches where verse 14 you're entering into the city but if you're out of the city verse 15 without our dogs and that verse 14 15 is undoubtedly uh that millennial application so then my question is why not with verse 18 and 19 why not with verse 18 and 19. so that could be possible so uh we have to understand this is that during the church age dispensation that there's no such thing as the blood of jesus christ cleanses us from all sins except based on this and this and this it cleanses us from every sin amen but i'm also open so i want to understand this i want you all to understand this too i'm also open to the possibility which is an easy answer that a lot of people go for but me i want to try to be honest that's why i don't really go for this other answer a lot of people what they would go for is that the modern version translators were never really safe to begin with so because they were never really safe to begin with that's why they uh just added subtracted from the word of god because how we get born again and saved is from the word of god so being born again not a corruptable seed but of incorruptible by the word of god which liveth and abide us forever but uh i don't uh i just want to let you know i don't go for that point of view but if other bible believing preachers do that i'm not against it either because this passage is uh i don't know a final answer on that one okay do we have uh okay actually we have to close all right we have to close all right hey that it was a lot of fun thank you so much for contributing i want to thank you so much for contributing your questions it made everyone enjoy even the ones who didn't ask questions so it made them enjoy thank you so much for being a blessing i know you sacrificed coming here tonight you took risk but my church was incredibly blessed by your company thank you so much everyone let's close with the word of prayer heavenly father bless us uh tonight help us to go home safely protect us and uh as we set things up tomorrow protect us guide us help us to be and no problems whatsoever and if there are problems that we'll be able to ride through it and that will just enjoy a great time at the blowout and you move in that's all heavenly father because no matter how much we set things up it's only man's effort and man's efforts are nothing but as filthy rags you have to use our efforts and you have to move in in jesus name we pray amen thank you everyone for coming tonight you all have a wonderful night god bless you all thank you so much please enjoy fellowship in the meantime you can enjoy

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