LET'S GET TO TINA. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHERE THE ENCAMPMENT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST WEEK. IT HAS KIND OF CLEARED OUT. LAW ENFORCEMENT STARTED MOVING THROUGH HERE. STARTED DETAINING PEOPLE. TAKING GROUPS OF PEOPLE OUT, SEARCH THEM, ZIP TIE THEM AND THEN LEAD THEM AWAY. IT IS BEEN PRETTY PEACEFUL. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE GOING AWAY WILLINGLY. THEY WERE PART OF AN UNLAWFUL GATHERING AND THEY HAD TO LEAVE. ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A GROUP OF PROTESTERS THAT HAS NOW COME COME UP BEHIND BARRICADES. HARD TO SEE EXACTLY HOW BIG THIS GROUP IS. THEY ARE AWAITING FLAGS, THEY ARE CHANTING, THEY ARE NOW TRYING TO PICK UP THE MESSAGE. FREE PALESTINE, DIVEST FROM COMPANIES THAT DO BUSINESS WITH ISRAEL. THE GROUP OF PEOPLE GATHERED HERE, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE STUDENTS, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE FROM THE OUTSIDE AND WANT TO JOIN IN ON THIS MOVEMENT. WHEN THESE PEOPLE HEARD THAT THE ACTUAL ENCAMPMENT WAS GOING TO BE CLEARED, WAS GOING TO BE BROKEN UP, THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES. RIGHT NOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT SET UP BARRIERS. THERE WAS NO CONFRONTATION IN THIS AREA. THE LARGE LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE KEEPING AN EYE ON THIS CROWD. CONTINUING TO DETAIN PEOPLE AND CLEAR OUT THE ENCAMPMENT. A BIG PRESENCE HERE WITH TWO GROUPS DOING TWO DIFFERENT JOBS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WANT TO CHECK IN WITH RICK MONTANEZ WHO IS ALSO THERE AT UCLA. >> GOOD MORNING. WE ARE ACROSS THE WAY FROM WHERE TINA IS. BACK BEYOND THE CROWD THERE. OFTEN THE DISTANCE, THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE BRINGING THE PEOPLE DETAINED AND ZIP TIES AND LINING THEM ALL. YOU CAN SEE IF MY PHOTOGRAPHER CAN FOLLOW THE LINE HERE. GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE POND. THEY ARE BUSES WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WILL BE PROCESSING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ARRESTED OVERNIGHT. WE TALK ABOUT THIS LARGE PRESENCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. THERE IS AN OFFICER WITH EACH PERSON STANDING IN THIS LINE. QUITE A BIT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE WE ARE SEEING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US HERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT. I WAS TRYING TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DETAINED HERE. I GOT UP TO ABOUT 60 AND THEN MOSCOW. I SAW THE LINE BASICALLY DOUBLE BECAUSE IT WENT ALL THE WAY AROUND THESE MONITORS SET UP OUT HERE. JUST NOW, WE ARE HEARING WHAT SOUND LIKE FLASH BANGS. LIKELY TO SEE PEOPLE PUT ON THOSE BUSES TO BE TAKEN WHETHER THEY PROCESS THEM HERE WHERE THEY DOCUMENT THEIR NAMES, GET IDS AND THEN TAKE THEM AWAY. I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM OUR CREWS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT TO HIS DETAINED. DIFFICULT TO TELL WHO WAS A STUDENT, WHO IS NOT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED WHEN I WAS HERE ON THURSDAY WHEN THIS ENCAMPMENT STARTED, ONE OF OUR FIRST KCAL CREWS HERE THIS MORNING. I SPOKE WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS IF YOU WILL. A GRADUATE STUDENT. AND ENCAMPMENT JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THEM ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ENCAMPMENT. REMEMBER, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE IT ALL BARRICADED OFF. I WILL ASK JOE HERE IF WE CAN SWING AROUND ONE MORE TIME TO SHOW US TOWARDS THE QUAD. A LOT OF MESS THAT WAS LEFT BEHIND. TAKING DOWN SOME OF THE TENTS. SOME OF THOSE BARRICADES. WE SAW THEM BRING IN PLYWOOD AND WOOD PALLETS. THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE BRINGING THEM. TAKING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DETAINED. GETTING READY TO LOAD THEM UP ON BUSES. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS WITH EACH AND EVERY PERSON THAT HAS BEEN ARRESTED IT APPEARS ANYWAY. THEY ARE KEEPING US AWAY. WE ARE JUST SEEING A LOT OF THAT HAPPENING AND STILL SEEING THEM BRING MORE PEOPLE OUT FROM ROYCE QUAD WHERE TINA IS ON THE OTHER SIDE DESCRIBING WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE. THIS IS WHERE IT APPEARS THEY ARE TAKING THOSE ARRESTED PROTESTERS AND LIKELY TAKING THEM OFF TO BE BOOKED. >> RICK, THANK YOU. WE WANT TO BRING IN THE STUDIO A JOURNALIST AT USC. YOU HAD ORIGINALLY COME IN TO TALK ABOUT THE USC PROTEST. WE ARE SEEING WHAT IS UNFOLDING RIGHT NOW ON THE UCLA CAMPUS. YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE UC SYSTEM. WHAT ARE YOU MAKING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? >> SEEING IT IN REAL TIME, AS YOU ALL ARE. FROM WHAT I AM READING IN THE L.A. TIMES, ACCORDING TO THIS MORNING'S REPORT, PRO- PALESTINIAN PEACEFUL PROTESTERS WERE ATTACKED BY A MOB LAST NIGHT. THERE IS BEEN VIOLENCE BROUGHT UPON THEM AND THEN THE POLICE COME IN AFTER THAT. IT IS ALMOST AS THOUGH THE VIOLENCE BY THE OTHER SIDE, WHOEVER IT WAS PRO- PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS WERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS REINFORCED BY -- AND AWARDED A LOT OF UCLA PROFESSORS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT POLICE VIOLENCE AS MANY OF US AT USC HAVE BEEN. THE FOG OF PROTEST AND DEMILITARIZED OPERATION, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS WAS JUSTIFIED TO BRING IN MILITARIZED FORCE AGAINST PEACEFUL PROTESTERS. THAT IS CERTAINLY WHAT WE WERE SEEING AT USC. HUNDREDS OF FACULTY MEMBERS PROTESTING THAT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AT USC. >> IT IS INTERESTING YOU SEPARATE THAT. SOME SAY THIS IS AN OVERREACTION DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> I DO, TOTALLY. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AT SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. IT IS EASY TO FORGET WHAT PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING. ALMOST 35,000 PEOPLE DEAD, INCLUDING MORE THAN 14,000 CHILDREN. MORE THAN 1 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DISPLACED IN GAZA. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN OPERATION THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSIVE BOMBING CAMPAIGNS AND MILITARY HISTORY. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO POINT TO. IF PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY SIT AND LISTEN RATHER THAN REACT WITH A DIFFERENT KIND OF POLICE FORCE, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE. >> WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS MORNING HAS BEEN VERY PEACEFUL. THE POLICE KIND OF FORMED A LINE THEY MOVED IN SLOWLY. WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ASSAULTIVE VIOLENCE THAT I AM AWARE OF THIS MORNING. VERY DIFFERENT SCENE THAN EARLIER IN THE WEEK. CONFRONTATIONS AND VIOLENCE HAPPENING THERE. GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER IN THE WEEK, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT IF YOU ARE THE ADMINISTRATION OF UCLA. >> I DON'T ENVY THE JOB OF ANY COLLEGE ADMINISTRATOR RIGHT NOW WITH THIS GOING ON AT OVER 120 CAMPUSES. I THINK LISTENING AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME UNIVERSITIES, COLLEGES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY SAT AND LISTENED. AT MY UNIVERSITY, THERE BEEN PRONOUNCEMENTS. THE PRESIDENT OF USC CAROL FULD IS DOUBLING DOWN AND USED THE WORD FELONY IN REFERENCE TO POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE 93 PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED LAST WEEK AT USC. FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS AND A GENUINE ATTEMPT OF AN UNDERSTANDING ATTEMPT AND ENLIGHTENMENT MEANT AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE THESE PROTESTS ARE COMING FROM IS FAR BETTER THAN ASKING THE POLICE TO COME AND. WE ARE SEEING THIS ALL IN REAL TIME. IF IT IS ACCURATE, IT IS GOOD THAT THE POLICE AT UCLA ARE NOT BEING VIOLENT. IT IS A RIOT, POLICE FORCE. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS THE ANSWER TO PEACEFUL PROTESTERS. >> WHAT YOU ARE SEEING LIVE'S OUTLINE THAT RICK MONTANEZ WAS REFERRING TO A PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DETAINED. RICK SAID HE COUNTED ABOUT 60 FOLKS AND THEN MOSCOW. WE ARE LOOKING AT DEFINITELY MORE THAN 100 ARRESTS THIS MORNING. YOU MADE A GREAT POINT. PEOPLE OFTEN FORGET WHY THIS IS EVEN AN ISSUE IN THE FIRST PLACE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD THE STUDENTS WANT. MOST OF THEM WANT THE SAME THING AN INVESTMENT FROM COMPANIES DEALING WITH ISRAEL. BREAK DOWN WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THE GROUND. OCTOBER 7 ATTACKS WERE HORRIFIC. BUT SO HAVE BEEN THE ATTACKS ON GAZA. IMAGINE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO COME UP MILITANTS WHO HAVE ATTACKED YOUR COUNTRY OR YOUR CITY. WHAT THE RESPONSE BE TO KILL 34,000 PEOPLE, ALMOST 35,000 PEOPLE? MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CIVILIANS. 70% OF THEM ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN. THAT IS PART OF WHAT THEY ARE FOCUSING ON. LOOKING AT QUESTIONS OF DIVESTMENT. WHY IS THERE NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? ON THE TABLE, ULTIMATELY. THE QUESTION OF INVESTMENTS, ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AMONG UNIVERSITIES OF DIVESTMENT AGAINST, OF COMPANIES THAT WERE DOING BUSINESS IN SOUTH AFRICA. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF AT USC AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES, THERE WAS AN OPENNESS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP. SENIOR PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT HAVE VERY CLOSE TIES TO THE LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE LAPD HAS CLOSE TIES TO DOING TRAINING IN ISRAEL. I THINK OPENING THAT UP AND HAVING A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW IT FITS IN THE DEMANDS AND KIND OF A CIVIL DIALOGUE IN THE SPIRIT OF THE UNIVERSITY TO UNDERSTAND AND TO SEEK KNOWLEDGE AND NOT AS USC SAYS IN ITS OWN VALUES, TUNED OUTPUT POWER OVER KNOWLEDGE. >> WE SHOULD MENTION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST YOU ARE THE AUTHOR OF TWO BOOKS. YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE GROUND REPORTING AS WELL. YOUR BACKGROUND NOT ONLY WORKING FOR THE UC SYSTEM, YOU ARE ALSO OCCUR PROTESTER AT USC WHERE THE PROTESTS ARE TAKING PLACE AND YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE HISTORY AND CONTEXT THEY ARE. WE ARE TAKING A LIVE LOOK ON YOUR LEFT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON THE CAMPUS OF UCLA AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE WE ARE SEEING WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER AS LAW ENFORCEMENT MOVED IN BEFORE THE SUN HAD COME UP. >> WE WANT TO GET TO JOHN. LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HE HAS. [INAUDIBLE] PULLEYS MEAN BUSINESS SETTING OFF/BANGS. MOVING TOWARDS THESE PEOPLE. >> THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY EARLIER THIS MORNING. STILL DARK OUTSIDE. HEARING LOTS OF FLASH BANGS. TRYING TO PUSH THE PROTESTERS BACK. WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR SEVERAL HOURS NOW. PROTESTERS BEING PEACEFULLY DETAINED THIS MORNING. WE WERE LOOKING MARK EARLIER AT THE PROTESTERS BEING DETAINED. POLICE OFFICERS STANDING NEXT TO THEM WITH LARGE BROWN PAPER BAGS >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE RESOURCES WHERE THESE PROTESTERS ARE BEING LED TO. I BELIEVE THAT THE AREA THAT ALL THE PROTESTERS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY, THEY ARE BEING LED TO THE NORTH TO A HALT CALLED BUNCH HALL. THIS IS A MAP OF WHERE THIS IS ALL GOING DOWN. THIS IS THE CENTER OF THE CAMPUS ROYCE QUAD, THAT IS RIGHT HERE. TINA WAS STANDING RIGHT ABOUT HERE. THIS IS THE TOP WHERE YOU SAW HER. THERE IS ACTUALLY NOW A POLICE LINE FORMED RIGHT HERE. A GROUP OF PROTESTERS ALSO RIGHT HERE. RESIDENTS HALLS ARE OVER IN THIS DIRECTION. IF ANYBODY IS COMING TO APPROACH US MORNING AS THE SUN COMES UP, STUDENTS WILL BE APPROACHING THE ROYCE QUAD FROM THIS DIRECTION. WE SEEN A LINE OF PROTESTERS RIGHT HERE IN ANOTHER LINE OF POLICE. THE POLICE WERE STAGING IN THIS AREA OVER TO THE EAST. EAST OF THE ROYCE QUAD. AS THEY WERE ARRESTING PEOPLE, WE COULD SEE FROM RICK MONTANEZ LIVE SHOPPING LET UP THIS WAY, UP THE STREET TO THIS BUILDING. I WILL ZOOM IN, CLEAR OUT MY DRAWINGS AND ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXCELLENT PLACE. I CAN SEE WHY THEY CHOSE THIS AREA. A LARGE OPEN AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE THEY CAN PROTEST, ACTUALLY , THEY COULD GATHER THE PROTESTS OR IT COULD BE HERE IN THE SCULPTURE GARDEN. PROCESS ANYONE ZIP TIED AND TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. THEY CAN WALK THEM TO BUSES RIGHT HERE. WE HAVE SEEN BUSES ON THIS STREET WITH KARA FINNSTRUM'S LIVE SHOT. THE PROBLEM THAT I'M HEARING RIGHT NOW IS A GROUP OF ABOUT 100 PROTESTERS IS MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION AND THERE IS NOW A LINE OF CHP AND SHERIFF'S THAT ARE FORMING TO BARRICADE OR BLOCK THOSE PROTESTERS FROM APPROACHING THE PROTESTERS IN CUSTODY RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE HELP. 150 PROTESTERS IN CUSTODY EITHER IN THIS AREA OR THIS AREA. THEY NEED MORE OFFICERS THERE NOT ONLY TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE OTHER PEOPLE COMING TO FORM A LINE THERE FROM THE WESTERLY DIRECTION, BUT JUST TO PROCESS MORE OF THESE PROTESTERS THAT ARE THERE IN THIS AREA. THEY ARE ASKING TO MOVE RESOURCES UP THERE AND WE DID SEE OFFICERS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. I WILL KEEP MONITORING THIS AND LET YOU KNOW WE ARE STILL UNFORTUNATELY ABLE TO GET GUY COW OVERHEAD DUE TO WEATHER. WE WILL GET A BETTER LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE. IN THE MEANTIME, IT SOUNDS LIKE THINGS ARE PROGRESSING AND THEY ARE MOVING RESOURCES AS THEY NEED IN ORDER TO GET THE PROTESTERS ONTO BUSES THAT ARE APPROACHING FROM THE EAST. >> TALK ABOUT THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE. THIS IS BASICALLY A TASK FORCE. UCLA POLICE DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER TO HANDLE THIS BY THEMSELVES. THE LAPD WAS CALLED IN. THIS IS ALSO HIGHWAY PATROL. A DIFFERENT EXAMPLE FROM COLUMBIA WHERE THEY HAVE A BILLET -- BIGGER POLICE FORCE. >> I CANNOT REMEMBER A TIME WHERE WE HAD SUCH A LARGE TASK FORCE TO TAKE CARE OF A SINGLE PROTEST OPERATION. THIS IS LAPD. CHP, L.A. COUNTY SHERIFF SPIRIT ALSO USE EPD. WE ALSO SAW ELEMENTS FROM SANTA MONICA PEDIA BEVERLY HILLS PD ASSISTING DOWN HERE IN THE ROYCE QUAD AREA THIS MORNING BECAUSE OF HOW LARGE OF AN OPERATION THIS WAS. ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS TRAINED FOR THIS. DEALING WITH PROTEST. PEACEFULLY CAN SOMETIMES TURN VIOLENT AND I WAS DISCUSSING EARLIER THE REASON WHY THIS TOOK SO LONG IS BECAUSE OF THE MANPOWER NEEDED TO CLEAR AN ENCAMPMENT THIS SIZE. LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT WANT TO APPROACH PROTESTERS UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF MANPOWER AT THEIR DISPOSAL. THEY FORMED TEAM SPIRIT THERE CAN BE AS MANY AS FIVE, SEVEN, 10 OFFICERS TO JUST TAKE CARE OF ONE PROTESTER AT A TIME. FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICER IN THE PROTESTER IN CASE THERE'S TENSION ORDERS GO FALLING. AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. OTHER PROTESTERS TRIED TO INTERVENE. THAT ARRESTEE WILL TRY TO SHIELD BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. THAT REQUIRS SOMETIMES AS MANY AS 10 TIMES AS MANY OFFICERS AS THERE ARE PROTESTERS. WHY WE ARE SEEING SUCH A LARGE MULTI AGENCY TASK FORCE. IT IS VERY SAFE AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE LIKELIHOOD OF ANY FIGHTS BREAKING OUT BECAUSE OF THAT OPERATION. >> WRITE DOWN THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN YOU CAN TAKE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BUS WHERE THEY ARE LINING UP THE PEACEFUL PROTESTERS. A LOT OF THEM PREPARING TO BE OUT AT THIS ENCAMPMENT. NOW WE ARE WATCHING THEM CLEAR OUT THIS MORNING. >> GOING LIVE TO TINA AT THE CAMPUS. TINA, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING THIS MORNING? EARLIER PICTURES. LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE. >> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW UCLA A COUPLE DAYS AGO SAID THIS WAS AN UNLAWFUL GATHERING. TELLING PEOPLE THEY HAD TO LEAVE THE AREA. IT HAS PRETTY MUCH BEEN CLEARED OUT. THEY WERE LEADING STUDENTS AWAY AND ZIP TIES. DETAINING THEM. THERE IS A BUS WHERE THEY HAD BEEN TAKING PEOPLE WHEN THEY HAD BEEN DETAINED. A LOT OF STUDENTS WE HAD A CHANCE TO YELL QUESTIONS AS THEY WERE BEING LED AWAY. A FEW OF THEM, ACTUALLY, THEY WERE SMILING. COMPARED TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN GAZA IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH IS NOTHING. YOU CAN SEE PRETTY MUCH A PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN CAMPED HERE NOW HAVE BEEN CLEARED OUT. MOST OF THEM DETAINED. IF YOU DID WALK AWAY ON THEIR OWN. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE QUAD, WE HAVE SEEN A BIG CROWD NOW COME. WE DO NOT KNOW IF THEY ARE ALL STUDENTS, OUTSIDERS COMING TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT BUT THERE IS ONE OF THEM WAVING A PALESTINIAN FLAG. THEY ARE BULLHORNS AND LOUDSPEAKERS IN THEIR KIND OF DOING CHANCE, TALKING ABOUT FREE PALESTINE. GETTING THAT MESSAGE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM THE ENCAMPMENT WE DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE ENCAMPMENT EARLIER AND THEY HAVE LEFT OR IF THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT SAW THAT THE ENCAMPMENT WAS BREAKING UP AND DECIDED TO COME AND PICK UP THE CAUSE. RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE BEING PEACEFUL. POLICE HAVE SET UP A BARRICADE ON THE TOP OF THE STEPS TO KEEP THEM FROM COMING INTO THE AREA. THE LINE OF CHP COMING. RIGHT NOW IT HAS BEEN PEACEFUL. A LOT OF CHANTING, A LOT OF YELLING, BUT NO CONFRONTATIONS BETWEEN POLICE AND THE PROTESTERS. IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE POLICE WE SAW EARLIER THIS MORNING, FOCUSED ON CLEARING THE ENCAMPMENT. NOW THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF DONE THAT, ONE SIDE OF CAMPUS HAVE QUIETED DOWN. NOW JUST KEEPING WATCH ON THIS SIDE OF CAMPUS. >> THANK YOU. QUITE A SCENE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. IT HAS BEEN PEACEFUL AT LEAST THIS MORNING. I WANT TO BRING IN THE PROFESSOR AT USC. WHAT ABOUT THESE, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS FROM JEWISH STUDENTS. FREE-SPEECH IS ONE THING. THEY WANT A SAFE PLACE TO LEARN. PAYING TUITION. COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HURLED AT THEM. YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION, THEY GIVE THEM AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THEY LEARN. >> I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THAT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE WHO WAS AT A COLLEGE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE HAS A RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE. I KNOW THAT THERE BEEN SOME EXPRESSIONS OF CONCERN FROM JEWISH STUDENTS AND WHERE THERE IS CLEAR ANTI-SEMITISM IT SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DENOUNCED. WHERE IT IS HAPPENING IT SHOULD BE DENOUNCED. THERE ARE MANY JEWISH STUDENTS% THAT ARE PART OF THESE PROTESTS. JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE. BEFORE THE ARRESTS WERE MADE THE LAPD SWOOPED IN LAST WEEK ON THE AGENDA ALONG WITH KITE MAKING AND YOGA. THAT WAS BROKEN UP BY THE POLICE THAT HAULED EVERYONE OFF. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IS EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL SAFE. MANY PALESTINIANS AND OTHER ARAB STUDENTS ALSO ARE FEELING UNSAFE FEW PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYBODY'S RIGHT SPIRIT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IF SOMETHING MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, IF SOMEBODY IS SAYING FREE PALESTINE AND THAT MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE AND MAKES YOU FEEL UNSAFE, PART OF THE IDEA OF A UNIVERSITY IS FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE, HAVE AN EXCHANGE IDEA, IF EVERYONE IS BEING PROTECTED SO NO ONE FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS OUR EDUCATION AND THAT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ACTUAL ANTI-SEMITISM, ACTUAL HATE SPEECH AND OTHER THINGS THAT MAY JUST BE MAKING PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT DON'T CROSS THE LINE OF FREE SPEECH AND FREE EXPRESSION WHICH IS THE HALLMARK OF THE UNIVERSITY. >> CITING A DIFFERING OPINION AS OPPOSED TO HATE SPEECH. >> IF YOU WANT TO TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PHRASE THAT SOME PEOPLE CALL ANTI-SEMITIC. FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA ANTI-SEMITIC. WHAT IT IS REFERRING TO, AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF HAVING COVERED THIS REGION FOR 30 YEARS IS IT IS AN EXPRESSION OF PEOPLE WHO WANT EQUALITY BETWEEN ISRAEL'S ANTI-PALESTINIANS. RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT EQUALITY. DIFFERENT REGIMES OF CONTROL. ISRAEL IS BASICALLY IN CONTROL OF ALL THE HOLY LAND INCLUDING THE WEST BANK WHERE IT IS CONTROLLED BY THE ISRAELI MILITARY, MORE THAN 60%. SO, PEOPLE ARE EXPRESSING A DESIRE FOR EQUALITY. MANY OF THE PEOPLE CHANTING FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> A LOT OF JEWISH STUDENTS MAY TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT. >> I THINK WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT A TWO STATE SOLUTION, RIGHT NOW IS ESSENTIALLY ONE STATE WITH DIFFERENT REGIMES OF RIGHTS. PALESTINIANS IN THE WEST BANK ARE LIVING AMIDST HUNDREDS OF CHECKPOINTS. MILITARY OPERATIONS. ATTACKS BY SETTLERS. WE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN GAZA. IF THE SOLUTION WAS A SINGLE STATE OR A CONFEDERATION, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION THAN WHAT EXISTS NOW. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL FIND THAT A ONE STATE SOLUTION IS BASICALLY NOT RESULTING IN WHAT ISRAEL IS NOW. WITH ATTACKS ON JEWS OR EXTERMINATION ARE GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE LAND, THAT IS NOT, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS, THERE SHOULD BE EQUALITY BETWEEN ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS. WHETHER THAT IS ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE OR CONFEDERATION WHICH THERE IS AN ISRAEL PALESTINE EXISTING ACROSS THE LAND, WE DO NOT HAVE ROOM FOR THAT DISCUSSION NOW, BUT I THINK THE IDEA THAT FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA IS INHERENTLY ANTI-SEMITIC, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. >> WE HAVE OF COURSE THE PROTESTERS WHO HAVE BEEN DETAINED THIS MORNING. THEY HAVE ZIP TIES ON AND THAT LINE HAS JUST BEEN GROWING LONGER AND LONGER. SUPPOSEDLY BEING LOADED ONTO THE SHERIFF'S BUSES JUST IN FRONT OF THEM. WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THOSE DETAINED PUT ON THE BUSES YET. THEY HAVE BEEN LINING THEM UP AND PUTTING ZIP TIES ON PROTESTERS SINCE THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING THIS MORNING. >> WE WANT TO BRING IN PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FROM THE CHP THAT IS ASSISTING IN THIS. HE IS ON CAMPUS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US I KNOW IT IS A BUSY MORNING. >> TELLS ABOUT THE OPERATION TODAY. FROM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING, IT IS LARGELY PEACEFUL. >> YES. WE HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. WE DEPLOYED OUR UNITS AFTER BEING REQUESTED FROM UCLA POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE MANAGED TO CLEAR OUT MOST OF THE PROTESTERS. WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH A FEW DEMONSTRATORS. >> WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN DETAINED. >> AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER BUT OVER 100 DEMONSTRATORS HAVE BEEN DETAINED THEY WILL BE BOOKED. THEY ARE BEING LOADED UP TO OUR BUS AT THIS TIME. TRANSPORTED TO A LOCAL JAIL. >> WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOU INSTRUCTED TO DO AS AN AGENCY WHEN YOU GOT WORD THAT YOU WOULD BE MOVING ONTO THE CAMPUS. >> AS SOON WE RECEIVED, WE REQUESTED FOR ASSISTANCE. WE STARTED DEPLOYING OUR UNITS. WE DEPLOYED OUR UNITS EARLY MORNING YESTERDAY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT TRYING TO ASSIST UCLA POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH REMOVING THE DEMONSTRATORS. >> HAVE YOU SEEN ANY VIOLENCE? HAVE YOUR OFFICERS ACQUIRED ANY VIOLENCE OR PUSHBACK? >> WE ARE STILL RECEIVING SOME PUSHBACK. HOWEVER, EARLIER TODAY, WE WERE SEEING DEMONSTRATORS GET A LITTLE HOPPED UP WITH OUR OFFICERS. WHEN WE SHOWED UP THEY STARTED GETTING A LITTLE ROWDY. WE WERE ENCOUNTERING THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO MANAGE AND GET MOST OF THE DEMONSTRATORS AT THIS TIME OUT OF THE AREA. >> TACTICALLY, WHAT IS THE OPERATION? WHAT IS THE STRATEGY HERE. WE'VE JUST BEEN SEEING ON OUR SCREEN WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. OFFICER STEPPING IN SLOWLY AND SURROUNDING THE ENCAMPMENT. IT IS KIND OF THE STRATEGY THAT YOU ARE IMPLORING. >> YES. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING AT THIS TIME. PUSHING THE DEMONSTRATORS BACK. THEY HAVE MANAGED TO DISMANTLE THE ENCAMPMENT WHERE THEY HAVE TENT SET UP. WE ARE STILL RECEIVING A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK. HOWEVER, THE GOAL IS TO GET THE CAMPUS COMPLETELY CLEARED. >> WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FLASH BANGS ALL MORNING. ONE OF THE TACTICS TO GET THIS ALL UNDER CONTROL AND BREAK UP THIS ENCAMPMENT. WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE LAPD AND HOW THEY PREP FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE THEY ARE FACING HUNDREDS OR MAYBE EVEN 1000 PROTESTERS. WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DOES CHP DO TO PREPARE FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS? >> THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL , WE ARE TRAINED FOR INCIDENTS LIKE THESE. >> OKAY. OKAY. I AM SORRY. WE ARE GOING TO GET TO KARA FINNSTRUM ON THE GROUND. IT LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE GETTING A LITTLE CHAOTIC. >> WE JUST HAD A COUPLE OF VERY LOUD/BANGS. YOU CAN SEE ONE PERSON IS BEING DETAINED. THERE WAS A SCUFFLE HERE BETWEEN OFFICERS AND SOME OF THESE PROTESTERS. WE JUST WALKED UP AND HEARD THE LOUD FLASH BANG. STARTED MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION KIND OF JUST WALKED UPON THIS SPIRIT A NUMBER OF OFFICERS HERE AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE SOMEONE THERE ON THE GROUND. WHAT HAPPENED HERE? >> TORTURING US FOR HOURS AND THEY DID NOT SHOW UP. I CALLED 911 TWICE AND THEY HANG UP ON ME. TODAY THEY SHOW UP TO ARREST STUDENTS FOR PROTESTING. >> ATTACKING THE STUDENTS WHO ARE PEACEFULLY PROTESTING. RUNNING THEM DOWN. THEY ARE HOLDING GUNS AT US AT NIGHTTIME. NOW THEY ARE JUST CREATING CHAOS AS WE ARE PROTESTING. WE HAVE HANDOUT. >> YOU ARE SEEING SOME OF THE CLASHES, SOME OF THE LOUD FLASH BANGS AS OFFICERS ARE CLEARING THE THIS IS A FORCE WITH THE CHP HERE. THE AREA HERE. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE PROTESTERS MOVING BIRDS INTO THE STREET TRYING TO CREATE SOME OBSTRUCTION FOR THE OFFICERS. >> KARA -- GO AHEAD. >> THERE IS A BUS AT THE END OF THIS STREET. THE OFFICERS CLEARING THE BIRDS OUT OF THE STREET. LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE MOVING THE BUS UP NOW INTO THE STREET OR MAYBE THEY WILL TURN IT AROUND DOWN THERE. DON'T KNOW IF THEY ACTUALLY DETAINED ANYONE OTHER THAN THE ONE PERSON WE SAW ON THE GROUND. I AM NOT SURE WHERE HE WENT HE HAD THEY PUT THEM IN TO ZIP TIES AND HE IS NOW NO LONGER HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY TOOK HIM INTO ONE OF THE PATROL CARS BECAUSE WE GOT TURNED AROUND. THERE IS ANOTHER GROUP OVER HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE WITH BULLHORNS. A GROUP OF PROTESTERS THAT HAVE NOT LEFT IT VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I SAW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CAMPUS THIS MORNING. THEY PUSHED A GROUP VERY PEACEFULLY OFF OF CAMPUS. THEY JUST CONTINUED TO CHANT. LEFT OFF OF CHARLES E YOUNG STREET. EVERYONE JUST GOT INTO THEIR CARS AND LEFT IT THIS IS ANOTHER GROUP THAT IS STAYING. YOU CAN HEAR MANY OF THEM ON THEIR BULLHORNS CLAPPING, CHANTING. A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN, YOU CAN ALSO SEE A LINE OF OFFICERS DOWN THERE. NOT SURE WHAT IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THEM. BUT THE OFFICERS BEHIND ME HAVE CLEARED ALL OF THOSE LIFTS OUT OF THE ROAD. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE JUST REALLY TRYING TO KIND OF SECURE THE AREA AT THIS POINT. >> WE HEARD THOSE BANGS BEHIND YOU. EVEN STARTLING YOU THERE ON THE GROUND. ARE YOU SEEING PEPPER SPRAY WESTERBERG. >> IMMEDIATELY WHERE WE WERE. >> YEAH, WE SAW THAT. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD BE VERY STARTLING TO ANYONE THERE ON THE GROUND. IT STILL LOOKS PEACEFUL. LOOKING AT ANOTHER CAMERA SHOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE SITTING. IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE IS REALLY PUSHING BACK THE A DIFFERENT SCENE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN WHERE TINA IS RIGHT NOW. YOU TALKED WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE INVOLVED JUST NOW BASICALLY EXPRESSING FRUSTRATION THING WHERE WERE THE POLICE WENT PEOPLE WERE COMING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE TO THE CAMP AND THE VIOLENCE WAS HAPPENING EARLIER IN THE WEEK THE NOW PEACEFULLY DEMONSTRATING AND THEY ARE DISPERSING US. UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY DECLARED. THEY WERE GIVEN A DEADLINE TO LEAVE AND DID NOT LEAVE IT THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE. IT IS DEFINITELY UNFOLDING IN A DIFFERENT WAY RIGHT NOW. >> IT IS. FURTHER DOWN THE STREET YOU CAN SEE ONE PERSON IN ZIP TIES ON HIS WRIST THERE. OFFICER SPEAKING WITH HIM. I AM NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE TAKING THE FOLKS THAT ARE BEING DETAINED HERE. THAT IS THE SECOND PERSON THAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE ZIP TIE ON EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS TO BE STANDING BACK. THEY HAVE MOVED CLOSER TO THE BUILDING. THE OFFICERS JUST KIND OF SURROUNDING THAT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE WALKED UP UPON IT AS SOON A SIU ARRIVED, PULLED UP AND GONE ON TO CAMPUS, WE STARTED HEARING THOSE VERY LOUD FLASH BANGS AND KIND OF RUSH TO THIS AREA AND CAUGHT IT IN THE MIDST OF KIND OF A SCUFFLE. A LITTLE BIT OF AN ALTERCATION. THEN WE SAW ONE PERSON BEING TAKEN TO THE GROUND. ZIP TIES PUT ON. NOW WE CAN SEE A SECOND PERSON BEING ESCORTED AWAY IN A ZIP TIE THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT I, PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN. THIS MORNING FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS WE WERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF CAMPUS WHERE PEOPLE WERE PUSHBACK IN A VERY SLOW METHODICAL WAY. VERY DIFFERENT GROUP. >> IN A VERY DIFFERENT SCENE THAN WHAT WE SAW EARLIER IN THE WEEK WHEN THE VIOLENCE DID BREAK OUT. THE JEWISH FEDERATION PUT OUT A STATEMENT OF WHAT HAPPENED ON TUESDAY. THE IMPORTANT ACTIONS OF A FEW COUNTER PROTESTERS LAST NIGHT DO NOT REPRESENT THE JEWISH COMMUNITIES OR OUR VALUES. CALLING FOR OPEN DISCUSSION IN PEACEFUL PROTEST. WE SHOULD MENTION THAT AS WELL. IT DOES SOUND, AS IT BECOMES CLEARER, IT DOES LOOK LIKE AN OUTSIDEGROUP CAME ON TO CAMPUS TO DISRUPT THAT CAMP AND THAT IS WHEN THE VIOLENCE BROKE OUT. >> KARA HAS BEEN SAYING SHE SEES THEM BEING DETAINED, ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, BUT CANNOT SEE WHERE THEY ARE GOING. RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN IS WHERE THE PROTESTERS ARE BEING LINED UP. RIGHT ON THE CURB WAITING TO GET INTO THE SHERIFF'S BUSES. MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DETAINED. THEY WILL BE PROCESSED AND BOOKED. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, WE ARE WATCHING THE SCENE WHERE KARA IS. MULTIPLE FLASH BANGS AND SEEING ONE PERSON BEING DETAINED. ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN IS WHERE THEY ARE BEING DETAINED A GUY WHO RECENTLY GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT YOU JUST SPOKE TO. THEY ARE VERY CRITICAL OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONE WHICH EVERYONE IS KIND OF CRITICIZING AFTER THE VIOLENCE OF TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS NOT PRESENT. KIND OF RECAP WHAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THESE PROTESTERS. >> YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD THE FULL GAMUT. I HAVE HEARD FROM STUDENTS WHO WANTED THE POLICE TO BE OUT HERE , A STRONGER PRESENCE SOONER STUDENTS CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING MIDTERMS AND STUDYING AND FELT LIKE THEY COULD NOT GET TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO ON CAMPUS. THEY WERE FRIGHTENED. ALL THE WAY THROUGH PRO- PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS WHO FELT THAT THEY WERE BEING UNFAIRLY SINGLED OUT AFTER COUNTER PROTESTERS THEY SAID STIRRED UP VIOLENCE ON CAMPUS. A LOT OF CRITICISM. PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO STRIKE THE RIGHT NOTE WITH EVERYONE HERE. AND WE HAVE SEEN A VARIANCE OF RESPONSES AS WELL. THE VERY ORDER THE KIND OF QUIET OVER ONE HOUR AND A HALF PUSHING BACK A CROWD OF ABOUT 1000 FEET TO WHAT WE JUST SAW BEHIND US. DEALING WITH A LOT OF VARIABLES. WE FLIP OUR CAMERA AROUND. ANOTHER GROUP OF OFFICERS IN RIOT GEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE ZIP TIES THAT THEY ARE CARRYING. UNCLEAR HOW MANY PEOPLE. YOU CAN SEE THEM LINED UP ON ANOTHER PART OF CAMPUS BEING DETAINED HERE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE AROUND MUCH MORE FREELY AT THIS POINT. NOW THAT THEY FEEL THEY HAVE THE CAMPUS SOMEWHAT SECURED. WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED AROUND 3:00 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, MEDIA HAD A HARD TIME GETTING ONTO THIS CAMPUS. THEY TRIED TO COMPLETELY CLOSE OFF ALL OF THE EXITS AND ENTRANCES ON THE CAMPUS I AM SURE SO THEY HAD A STATIC SITUATION. BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE AROUND MUCH MORE FREELY SINCE THEN. AND THE CROWD HAS DIMINISHED GREATLY. THERE ARE THESE POCKETS OF PEOPLE REMAINING ON CAMPUS, AND THIS IS WHERE WE SEE SOME OF THESE CONFRONTATIONS NOW OCCURRING LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU JUST WITNESSED. >> WE WILL KEEP WATCHING YOUR CAMERA. I WANT TO BRING IN SANDY TOLAN. WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT THE MEDIA BEING KEPT OUT OF THESE PROTESTS , I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SIMILAR COMPLAINTS AT USC, WE ALSO NOTE TO STUDENT JOURNALISTS EARLIER WHEN THIS VIOLENCE BROKE OUT AT UCLA ON THE CAMPUS WERE HURT, SIGNIFICANTLY HURT, ABOUT 25 PEOPLE HURT ACCORDING TO THE PRO- PALESTINIAN CAMP THERE. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF KEEPING THE MEDIA OUT? >> I THINK THAT IT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA. THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE IN COUNTRIES THAT IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW. THE IDEA THAT THE PRESS SHOULD NOT WITNESS WHAT IS GOING ON, TO ME, A FREE SOCIETY AND UNIVERSITY WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOSTERING FREE-SPEECH, SHUTTING OUT THE MEDIA, SHUTTING OUT KCAL, SHUTTING OUT THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, OTHER STATIONS, OTHER NEWSPAPERS, WHAT IS THE CONCERN? PEOPLE WILL WITNESS WHAT IS HAPPENING? PEOPLE RESTRICTED TO ONLY THE PRESS, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. SHUTTING OUT THE PRESS ENTIRELY, YESTERDAY WE HAD A COUPLE HUNDRED FACULTY INVOLVED PROTESTING THE MILITARIZATION OF CAMPUS IN THE ARREST CALLING FOR THE CHARGES TO BE DROPPED. WE HAD TO MARCH ALL THE WAY TO THE GATE AT JEFFERSON WHICH LOOKED LIKE IT WAS CLOSED. THERE WERE BARS. PROFESSORS WERE TALKING TO THE MEDIA THROUGH THE LOCKED GATES BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT COME ON. SO ━-DASH AND I ALSO LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO YOU TO JOURNALISTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE DAILY TROJAN HAVE BEEN DOING REMARKABLE REPORTING. TALK ABOUT A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. THESE YOUNG JOURNALISTS ARE DOING WORK THEY WILL NEVER FORGET. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY NOW, TO ALL OF LOS ANGELES BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS THAT I THINK ARE VERY ILL-ADVISED DECISIONS TO SHUT OUT THE FREE PRESS. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? >> THE UC SYSTEM, THE POLICY IS YOU BRING IN POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A LAST RESORT. MAYBE THEY SAW THE VIOLENCE THAT BROKE OUT EARLIER IN THE WEEK% AND THEY SAID WE HAVE NO CHOICE TO KEEP OUR CAMPUS SAFE AND COMMUNITY SAFE WE NEED TO BRING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE OF THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT CAVEAT, WHAT IT APPEARS HAPPENED, AND I HEAR THE STATEMENT FROM THE JEWISH FEDERATION, THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE THAT JUST WERE NOT REPRESENTATIVE, THERE WAS VIOLENCE, MOB VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PRO- PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS WHO HAVE BEEN PEACEFUL. BY MANY ACCOUNTS, INCLUDING PROFESSORS, POLICE STOOD BY WHILE THIS WAS HAPPENING. I DON'T RECALL THOSE CAMPUS POLICE OR NOT. THEY STOOD BY AND PEOPLE IN THE PRO- PALESTINIAN CAMP SET THEY NEEDED HELP. THEY DID NOT GET THAT HELP. THERE WAS THIS MOB VIOLENCE. AFTER THAT, THE UNIVERSITY CALLS AND THE LAPD AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. IT IS ALMOST AS IF THAT VIOLENCE ON TUESDAY NIGHT IS BEING REWARDED BY TAKING DOWN THE CAMP AND THE CAMP AND THE CAMP AT USC , BY ALL ACCOUNTS, AND I'VE BEEN TO THE UST CAMP PROBABLY EIGHT OR 10 HOURS, HAS BEEN PEACEFUL. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO PROTEST PEACEFULLY AND THEN THE VIOLENCE IS PUT ON THEM AND THEN THE CAMP IS BROKEN DOWN. I DO NOT FOLLOW THE LOGIC THERE. >> ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE STUDENTS INVOLVED? EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS INVOLVED COULD FACE SANCTIONS, EVEN SUSPENSION IN SOME PLACES. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT STUDENT I WANT TO EXERCISE THEIR FREE SPEECH, PEACEFULLY PROTEST. ARE THEY PUTTING THEIR EDUCATION AND FUTURE IN JEOPARDY? >> USC IS PUTTING THEIR EDUCATION INTO JEOPARDY. THEY ARE COURAGEOUS PEOPLE. AGAIN, I HAVE NOT WITNESSED ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE IN ALL OF THE HOURS THAT I HAVE SAT AT THE CAMP. SPEAKING IN A WAY THAT IS ANTI- SOMATIC. AGAIN, MANY JEWISH STUDENTS THAT ARE PART OF THESE PROTESTS. THEY HAVE A LOT OF RISK. BECAUSE OF THEIR CONVICTIONS, THINK ABOUT THIS THROUGHOUT HISTORY, YOU KNOW, GANDHI, MANDELA, KING, I AM NOT SAYING THAT THESE STUDENTS ARE EQUIVALENT, BUT PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN OUT, SPEAK IN THEIR CONVICTIONS AND HAVE RISKED ARREST. THEY ARE RISKING A LOT. I THINK IF USC AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS WANT TO, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY REACH OUT AND ALL OF BRANCH, IT WOULD BE TO
