Porsche Macan GTS | For The Select Few

[Music] [Music] inside the macan gts mark and i have already done a long video on the macon s so in this interior segment i'll give you a brief overview of the cabin and walk you through some of the specific changes the gts trim level makes so the cabin itself is a mix of prior generation porsche technology and current generation if you notice this entire center console is very similar to what you find in the cayman and boxster which means it is fastened with physical switch gear which mark and i are split on i love it i like that every single function has a physical switch however mark finds it incredibly cluttered now i get where he's coming from it is not the most intuitive but i will take physical switches 9 out of 10 times over touch screens or haptic switches and because of their all physical switches there's no glossy black plastic anywhere in this cabin which is tremendous the gauge cluster itself is pretty simplistic and i mean that in a good way you have a giant center mount attack your left pod is an analog speedometer and your right pod is configurable which means you can show engine temp your sport chrono settings your map whatever you want within reason can be displayed in the right pod your pcm or porsche communication management system in other words your infotainment system is current generation porsche which means you have apple carplay the way you interact with it is a mix of physical and touch controls honestly it's pretty decent it's easy to use it connects to my phone well i have no complaints however i will say this in typical porsche fashion everything to do with audio or infotainment is all a cart so this car has the no name poverty audio system which in an eighty 80 000 car is not what you should expect honestly if you're spending this much money either equip this car with a premium package or equip the burmeister or bose system a la carte it is well worth your money now let's talk about some of the pros and cons of this cabin really quick and it's overall ergonomics so when it comes to the ergonomics of the macan this is where most of the interior changes are made for the gts package you get the gts seats or the gts interior which is these eight-way adjustable alcantara and leather seats now when it comes to practicality this is definitely on the smaller side porsche does not position this as their hauler that's why they have the cayenne and honestly if you need to use this for carrying children or larger adults in the back seat you're probably going to want to pick something else this is really just a very competent or usable daily driver it's almost like having a larger gti that's lifted in the sky it's meant to be your daily you're supposed to be able to go to the grocery store go to work drive this year around without any problems and in that capacity does a great job so with that let's head into the shop and talk about all of the engineering [Music] so mark despite our patagonia sponsorship not coming through we are underneath another porsche macan this is the gts not the mcconness despite this looking the same as the car we already did this is a different vehicle yes and if you want to know all the details mechanically which that's a 40 minute video we cover a majority of the finer points of it which we're not going to rehash here but i think there's a good breakdown we can give you in terms of the mechanus the gts which that's this and then the the makan turbo so let's get started with that so quickly this is on the mlb architecture which is the same architecture that's found on like the sq5 there are some major differences porsche claims that seventy percent of the components on their macons are different the suspension tuning is different you know the interior exterior panels are different and it's built in entirely different factory however this still shares the identical hardpoint so much like in an sq5 you have aluminum lower control arms and you have an aluminum front subframe including a multi-length front suspension and a multi-link rear yeah so a lot of the core things that they use and as you said the hard points are all the same but they're subject to different quality control you have different engineers that are working on this stuff so the finer details are where all of this goes together when you're on the road you it has this porsche personality which is what you're paying a lot of money for break this down the s is kind of that everyday person coil spring a little bit more basic you shave off some cost the gts is more the enthusiast macan harder suspension stiffer more reactive great for great climates so this would double as your performance vehicle slash daily driver in the lineup it's definitely the hardest and when you go to the turbo you get the same engine with more horsepower you get a softer tuning in terms of suspension and way more money no longer in the macon lineup can you get carbon ceramics you can get the silicon cart whatever tungsten carbon carburetors and then you have different pads which reduce dusting essentially there's no brake dust well there's no brake dust compared to the to the regular brake system and getting rid of the carbon ceramics has a huge benefit of long-term costs because the point of this is to be that first or second car not that third car where you're worrying about oh how much am i spending you drive this every day and hopefully you'll keep some of the uh consumable costs down by just having steel rotors as well and unlike in the gts cayenne the all-wheel drive system in this is identical to the all-wheel drive system in a macon s so they've not changed the power transfer differences but this is still a rear driven car primarily and unlike the audi products just like in the meccan s you can defeat defeat the stability control independently of the drive mode again this is the difference between brands and why porsche has a definitely different vision for what they want their products to be exactly so let's get underneath that mark all right so mark we're under the hood and as we mentioned earlier this is the 2.9 liter twin turbo v6 tell me about it so this is the same engine that is found in the cayenne s however this has made it to a dual clutch versus an automatic what type of power is it making it makes close to like 375 horsepower and it's good for zero to 60 in the mid to low fours depending on magazine when you use launch control and sport chrono so what makes this different versus the higher displacement three liter single turbo v6 is exactly that it is lower displacement it revs a little higher and makes more power and from what i understand this is basically mechanically identical to the turbo engine that just produces more power so they take the same internals and then tune it differently to give you more power output exactly i'm not saying it's the best there are faster drive trains out there but it is very very proficient it's it's about it's the sum of its parts right and how each one of those parts is designed and every manufacturer has their own identity that they want to put into a vehicle that's what gives it that fingerprint and porsche has its own and some people don't like it and we've had this discussion about bmw some german mindset gives you that very sterile uh very black and white type mentality but you also appreciate that they don't leave too many details they don't do this they don't slip past them you know what i mean so i think let's take it on the road mark yeah let's see how this does all right [Music] jack mcconnel gts are you enthused i am enthused because this is the enthusiast model i'm going to show you why it's the enthusiast model with a little bit of launch control oh this has launch control it does pdk oh man my third wife is gonna love this thing yeah it's a there's a couple conversations we should have during this drive before i walk you through or right after i walk you through what this thing's like to drive what makes a sports car where sporty suvs fit in the sports car ethos what makes the car fun and what you should expect in a daily i think we have two different uh perceptions of this so let's start with you go ahead tell me so if you're looking this as an enthusiast product right i mean we sound like a broken record every porsche we've driven on this channel that's modern is just extraordinarily proficient the dual clutch in this thing is you're perfect exactly what you're expecting it feels like a rear driven car despite being an suv it has tremendous traction this v6 does its best job in simulating the sound of a flat six it's got no engine noise and from zero to like 70 miles an hour it is as fast as 95 or 99 of sports cars on the road when you're using launch control but there's no piano black i need multiple touch screens there's no fake engine noise how can i drive this this guy all he does is complain that they're not physical switches and i finally get them in a car with physicals so there's too many there's too many physical switches yeah but i need an index and an instruction manual to figure out what all this stuff is i mean there's a good middle ground but that's not what this is about this is about trying to bring or bridge the gap between a car and a cross over an suv that is enjoyable to drive and i get that [Music] i mean it really does behave like a rear drive rear biased all-wheel drive car but it's super safe you can't get this thing out of control there's nothing you can do that you can get this out of control unless you're going like a hundred miles an hour do something stupid so there's the safety factor of it it's still got the sports car feel to it in terms of its dynamics or balance you mentioned the transmission the dual clutch it does a great job at emulating fast shifts but also giving you a good balance of street ability and they're not harsh much like you're expecting in a pdk it isn't it doesn't upset the car when you shift i will say this though it does auto upshift unless you've gotten it sideways in first or second gear and it uh you hit the rev but 99.9 percent of the time it will auto up shift so we've walked through the way this car drives and yes it's stiffer than the regular mcconnell so you sacrifice a little bit of ride quality it's not as bad as like the x3 uh competition we drove which was that there's this is nowhere near that i mean when you said it was too stiff which i think you know for me i would have to go up to the turbo to get the softer suspension i don't need this in a car like that but you can do that but this is nowhere near as bad as the x3m competition that thing was just trash yeah so this is everything it does so what's wrong with it then i don't i don't fully understand the point of and again this isn't a car for me but why do you need an suv to also be a sports car if you can afford this is realistically fully loaded like a 90 grand car you could buy a basement con if you really wanted a porsche and some other sports car used or you know you could just get two cheap cars a cx-5 and a miata or an m2 or something so i don't quite understand why this car exists i feel like this is going to be for somebody that has really wants a little bit more ground clearance than a sports car you could drive this every day you have the all-wheel drive aspect to it and then you get for most people again remember the this whole idea of sports cars and people really utilizing what they're made to do like even a 718 even a base 718 people are not going to fully utilize that on the street a 911 you can't even approach the limits most of these sports cars are a complete waste so this is giving the majority of the buyers everything that they want from a sports car experience any usable everyday does that make it fun though that's the next question it doesn't make it fun to you and i true it doesn't because we're in a different perception a different headspace of car ownership and car experience but to a majority of the public and the people that are going to get into this this is an amazing designed and developed vehicle from every single corner of it well with the exception of some of the interior stuff they are expensive but you are getting one of the best driving vehicles for the money period let's get into the final thoughts jack all right [Music] final thoughts on the makan gts much like the mcconness that we did a video on i have these same feelings about this however take a look at this it is filthy dirty and that is the point of having this crossover style vehicle all-wheel drive high horsepower super balanced very stable and for the most part usable if you know what you're getting into and that is the beauty of something that porsche's developed where it doesn't feel completely cookie cutter it still gives you the ride the refinement the luxury and the fun to drive elements of their sports cars that's why this is popular and that's why it's different than the other products in its class now we can make the same arguments we always do it's way too much money but i'm telling you if you're a porsche person or you're coming from a long list of cars and you get into this brand you don't really appreciate it until you drive this back to back with audis and vws and all the other mercedes and all the other cars that are out there this really starts to elevate itself when you get into the technical and engineering details of all the bases that they covered and if you're cool with that you're gonna spend even more money than you think you would on something like the macan gts thanks for watching i'll see you next time [Music]

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Length: 14min 30sec (870 seconds)

Published: Mon Mar 01 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/zxcvbmm]

I had a Macan S as a daily for 2 years. It was a 80k sticker. It’s probably the perfect daily car. Its very very quiet. It’s super smooth. It tries to, but it never feels rwd. It had the extended leather and the carbon fiber. It is a very, good luxury car. Under hard acceleration you can feel the fwd roots of the chassis. It’s probably not an enthusiast’s car, but I would highly recommend it overall. I'm not surprised there's so many of them on the road. Plus it looks much better than even the current Cayenne imo.

[u/007meow]

The Macan EV will print money

[u/OyManu]

From the bottom of my heart to everyone around the world: Thank you for buying the Macan and Cayenne.

And whoever thinks the Macan is in any way comparable to the Q5 when it comes to driving dynamics drive both and then tell me more storyteller.

[u/T-Baaller]

This guy has helped me see porsche SUVs in a different light.

At first glance they seem like money-printers that enable making the low-volume sports cars. But Geese man does a great job showing that a lot of effort is put into them to be excellent in their own way.

And with performance vehicles in general getting too fast for our roads, this has a great value proposition.

I still prefer smaller vehicles tho.

[u/DynastySS]

The why not get two car argument is not bad, but it just doesn't apply to everyone honestly. Not everyone wants to pay and maintain an SUV for the wife, truck for home depot, sports car for the weekend, etc. Some people may be sharing a single car and want it to scratch all the itches.

I honestly could see myself getting this thing and just having it for the wife (so I can enjoy driving it as well when we are together) and then having a Home Depot beater truck and my bike for personal use.

[u/Joker8891]

Gorgeous blue. I love the interior layout of the Macan. Yes, it's a ton of buttons and it is actually a bit overwhelming at first - but after a day where you get acclimated to the layout, the buttons are irreplaceable. One thing that isn't covered is just how good Porsche button tactility is. These are some of the most satisfying buttons to press in a car.

[u/IRENE420]

If I had some real money and had only one car it would definitely be a Macan

[u/LocoMotoNYC]

I’d like to point out a feature that doesn’t get highlighted as much as it’s performance features—Macan’s off road capability. For a RWD-biased car, it has great traction on snowy roads. You feel the rear slip and the TC always puts the car back in place. If conditions gets real bad, the Macan’s Off Road mode makes the Macan unshakeable. I’ve driven Wranglers and 4Runners and those cars does not give me the confidence that the Macan does when speeding in a blizzard with 4 inches of snow on the ground.

Oh, and I love the fact, that just like true sports cars, the faster you push the Macan, the smaller and the more agile it feels.

Just amazingly engineered cars.

[u/flash773311]

Would you all rather have a pre-facelift Turbo/GTS or a post-facelift Macan S? I'm seeing 2018 Turbos and 2020 S's for ~$60k.

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I'm moving to a macan from my 2018 M2 for life reasons (this will be my DD) and while I know it's apples and oranges, I want to retain as much driving fun as possible. With that said, I'm wondering if I'd rather have the more modern interior than the extra power since it's not a dedicated sports car. In an ideal world a high-mileage CPO 2020 GTS will pop up for sale, and I might wait it out for that specific year/model combo in my price range.