LEADING A DEMONSTRATION OUTSIDE THE STOUGHTON TOWN HALL ON JULY 20TH. AND IN THE MEANTIME, I WANT TO BRING IN ROBERT HAS A LOT. HE'S RETIRED CHIEF OF DETECTIVES FROM BERGEN COUNTY, NEW JERSEY. ROBERT, THIS AND I I'M REALLY CONFOUNDED HERE BECAUSE I I'M SORT OF CONFUSED ABOUT 2 CRIMES IN IN 2 JURISDICTIONS. THERE'S ONE POLICE DEPARTMENT WERE THESE ALLEGATIONS THAT 3 COPS WERE PASSING THIS KID AROUND? IT'S ACTUALLY BE USING OUR RIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S THIS OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS INVESTIGATING HER DEATH FROM A SO-CALLED SUICIDE. BUT NOW ONE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS SAYS WAS NOT A SUICIDE AT ALL. WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SHOULD COPS WHO ARE STILL CLOSE TO THESE COMMUNITIES REALLY BE INVESTIGATING THIS. >> > SO THT'S ALWAYS ACTUALLY FIRST. THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. SECOND, ALWAYS A BIG QUESTION, RIGHT, THAT THE PUBLIC DEMANDS A LOT OF OVER THE YEARS. OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROCESS IS GEARED TOWARDS THE IDEA THAT POLICE SHOULD BE POLICING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TO CLEAN UP OUR OWN BACKYARD, SO TO SPEAK. BUT A MORE RECENT TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN THE WAKE OF GEORGE FLOYD, I THINK INCREASING PUBLIC DEMANDS INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE INVESTIGATIONS TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY, THE OUTCOME OF THESE TYPES OF CASES. SO THIS INSTANCE, I THINK THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE THAT ARE INVOLVED. YOU HAVE. SO THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION INTO THE GROOMING AND ASSAULT OF THIS YOUNG GIRL. AND THEN YOU HAVE WITH THE DEATH INVESTIGATION. SO A LOT HERE RIGHT. >> I EVEN THINK STATE POLICE LIKE I EVEN THINK STATE POLICE AT THIS POINT MAYBE MIGHT BE TOO CLOSE LIKE AND THERE IS WHERE THE FBI IS LOOKING AT THIS THAT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T TALK. THEY WERE. IT'S REAY HARD TO FIND OUT WHAT WHERE THEY ARE WITH THIS CASE THAT IT IT FEELS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE ONLY A JOB FOR THE FBI, GIVEN THAT WE'VE GOT TO JURORS DICTION AND CHAOS, SOMETHING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME IS THAT THE STOLEN POLICE CHIEF TODAY NOT INVOLVED IN ANY. THAT'S RIGHT. SHE'S NEW. SHE'S UPSET ABOUT THIS. SHE THINKS THE HIGHEST LEVEL SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING THIS. AND THESE 3 OFFICERS WERE NEVER CHARGED WITH ANY OF THESE GROOMING ALLEGATIONS, EVEN THOUGH SHE SAYS IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAPPENED. AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY WEREN'T CHARGED WITH IT BECAUSE SHE'S DEAD. I THINK THAT TEXT MESSAGES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL VICTIM. >> YES, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT. IT DIDN'T COME TO LIGHT UNTIL AFTER THE DEATH OF THIS YOUNG GIRL. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FOR VICTIM A CRIME. BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT IN THIS CASE, IF THEY REALLY DO HAVE THE EVIDENCE VIA TEXT MESSAGE AND IT REALLY IS EVEN IF A CIRCUMSTANTIAL, THERE IS A CASE TO BE BROUGHT AT LEAST MATTHEW FARWELL WHO BY ALL BEGAN HAVING WITH THIS GIRL WHEN SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD. THAT STATUTORY RATE, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. STATUTORY RAPE IS A PER SE VIOLATION. THAT IS A STRICT LIABILITY VIOLATION. IT DOES NOT MATTER OF WHETHER YOU BELIEVE SHE WAS UNDERAGE, NOT. IT'S JUST A STRICT LIABILITY. YOU'RE EITHER DID OR DID NOT. IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT HE HAD WITH HER WHEN SHE 15 YEARS OLD, HE'S GUILTY. >> YEAH. AND BY THE WAY, THERE ARE THE TEXT MESSAGES SAYING BUT HERE'S THE THING. HE'S ALSO ON VIDEO. THE LAST PERSON LIKELY TO HAVE SEEN HER GOING INTO HER APARTMENT AND COMING OUT OF HER APARTMENT IN IT FOR AROUND 20 MINUTES AND THEN SHE'S FOUND MYSTERIOUSLY DEAD, BARELY HANGING WITH, YOU THE HYOID BONE IS PROBLEMATIC. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT AS SUICIDE. I HAVE TO HAVE YOU BACK BECAUSE I I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOTOF NOISE ON THIS CASE NOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CARE HENRY CASE WAS SO CLOSE. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS MARCH IS PROBABLY GOING TO GENERATE SOME HEAT. SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE YOU BACK SEAT. ANYTHING ACTUALLY COMES OF IT. THANKS FOR DOING THIS TONIGHT. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ROBERT HAS A LOT JOINING US LIVE TONIGHT. CHIEF OF DETECTIVES RETIRED FROM BERGEN COUNTY. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW LIKE IF YOU OR ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF ASSAULT, THERE'S HELP AVAILABLE ANY TIME. JUST CHECK THESE NUMBERS OUT. TAKE A PICTURE OF YOUR SCREEN. THE NATIONAL ASSAULT HOTLINE, 1, 806, 5, 6,
