Photography Masterclass - How to Do Client Proofing and Deliver Final Images

happy friday everybody welcome to my photography master class my name is terry white worldwide design and photography evangelist here at adobe and it's my pleasure to be streaming to you live once again on a friday morning my time friday afternoon friday evening or even saturday depending on where you are in the world today we're going to be taking a look at how to do client proofing and this is mostly a lightroom thing i'm going to probably at the end of time permits get into some retouching and final delivery but this is mostly about the proofing stage how to submit your images how to get feedback so forth and so on uh michael south in the house welcome uh so today i'm gonna start off the pre-stream with a quick tip on creating collections in lightroom classic because everything in the proofing stage requires it be in a collection if you're using lightroom classic if you're using a lightroom you already have albums so you're already done but uh if you're in lightroom classic you could just be working in folders and this is another reason why you want to be working with collections so my first pre-tip in the pre-stream let me switch over to my desktop i've got my desktop open and i'm actually showing two areas of lightroom i've got the top portion here which is my folders and then you can see the collection section right below it now i have probably hundreds of folders of photos i've taken over the years so in the in my my file server uh in a folder called terry white photography is probably every shoot i've done since like the last 10 12 13 years all right so i'm going to scroll all the way down to this one folder which is called uh wescott rapid box it's a shoot i did for westcott and there's a wrapping box right there that's what it looked like and now i want to take that and make it into a collection so it's a folder of 157 photos and i want to take it and turn it into a collection now the old way is i would select all the photos come down here and click the new collection button and then name the collection and so forth and so on the new way to do that you can still do it that way but that's so many more steps than just simply taking the collection i'm sorry taking the folder and dragging it to your collection area so if i just take this folder and drag it into the collections into a collection set called current work when i scroll down there's my wescott rapid box collection so it named it it brought over all the photos i can start doing anything i want i can start rearranging i can start uh going through and eliminating photos that were like just a test i don't need those as part of the client proofing stage so that's another reason why we like to work in collections so me removing that photo out of the collection doesn't remove it out of the folder it just takes it out of this collection so the client doesn't have to look at it the client you know again that was just a quick hey is my camera working test and i think i have a couple more of these production shots where i don't really need those in the collection all right so now that i've got that collection the next step if you were going to do this and we'll get into this in the actual stream in just a minute here is you would make sure you go up here and make sure your your syncing is turned on and then you're gonna enable the syncing for that collection so that little check box on the left hand side will enable it so that you've got your syncing turned on and then that will put it in the cloud so that we can do the proofing step which is going to come up next so i just want to give you guys that quick tip in the pre-stream i'm going to put you back in the lobby for like 20 seconds before we start the mainstream and then we'll just dive right in and keep going so thanks for joining me here on the pre-stream i see all you folks over on youtube ceo over there on facebook as well thanks for joining me on my channel we'll be right back [Music] [Music] welcome happy friday adobe live this is terry white worldwide design and photography evangelist here at adobe and it's a friday so that means it's typically master class friday now the schedule has been all over the place and i know i say typically master class friday because we've been working on max we got had to get max out of the way and now that we've come back from max the company is giving us like a friday off a month so that kind of like takes away from the master class schedule then we got the holidays in there we had thanksgiving so it's been an inconsistent master class friday but we are back and i am uh happy to be here at least this week because next week we have that one friday a month off again so next week i won't be here but i'll be here one more time i think on the 18th whatever the friday is after next um and then that'll be it for the end of the year because then we shut down for the end of the year christmas new year's all that so um i'm going to try and get the best i can out of these last two master classes that i have this month today we're going to be doing client proofing and how to deliver your final images if you guys want to put in the chat what you would like that last stream to cover i was thinking about doing a general q a we could always do how i would edit your images which people love but if there's something in particular you want to learn how to do photography wise for that last stream the third week of december whatever that date is um put in the chat let me know what your topic would be all right so for those of you who are watching me on other platforms maybe you're watching on facebook maybe watching on twitter or maybe you're watching watching on something else uh maybe watching a replay i am live every friday that we're working here at adobe live so be.net slash adobe live at 8 00 a.m pacific 11 a.m eastern it's 11 02 right now in my time and i'm live for an hour usually sometimes it's cut off for a half hour depending on what you know scheduling conflict there may be but usually an hour and it's a whole day of master classes so i'm up now then we do the daily photoshop creative challenge then i think paul traney is up uh doing photoshop and then jason levine's up doing audio and video and then we have howard doing xd and we have kyle doing uh drawing so we have a full day of master classes every friday that we're working all right so with that said um oh no what are we gonna do without masterclass pride there will be other content it just won't be master classes next friday all right so with that said uh join me here at be.net slash adobe live every friday we're working and uh probably kick back off to a real regular schedule in january um and of course the rest of the team that'll be here now that moves us to today's topic what are we going to do today we're going to talk about something that i thought i'd covered but i went back through all the master class titles and maybe i covered it as part of a class but i certainly didn't dedicate dedicated class to it and that is how to use lightroom's client proofing technology preview because it is it's not a final feature yet it's a technology preview and it's used it's it's done or created on lightroom's web site so lightroom.adobe.com is where you would go do all this but i'm going to show you how to do it from scratch since we have the hour and then once we've covered the proofing part i'll get into the how you would edit and deliver the final images part which is going to be at the very end all right so with that said hey amber great to see you over there on facebook uh but again if you want to see if you want to participate in the chat that i'm going to be paying attention to go there all right so with that said um let's go ahead and pop over to my computer let me get to the right place first i did a kind of a quick tip a minute ago and i want to get to the right place before i take you over there let's go to angel there we go all right so let's switch over to the computer now um i said this was a lightroom feature and it is so it doesn't matter if you're using lightroom classic or lightroom it just if you're using classic you'll have a couple more steps to set up um and michael's asking i just because i saw his comment will i incorporate an ipad or mobile device it would be the same especially on lightroom on mobile because you're already working in albums but when i get to lightroom michael i will i will make sure that we that i talk about that it would be the same all right um lightroom classic so lightroom classic or if you're using lightroom this is a different album but i can go to the same album so we can see it there it is so same album um doesn't matter which application you're using this would be the same set of features so in lightroom classic let me go over those steps for the classic users and then i'll go to lightroom whether you're on ipad iphone android or desktop it will be the same for those users alright so in classic the extra steps would be number one this only works in collections in classic you can't do this with a folder i've preached collections since the beginning of the master class this is yet another reason why you want to work with collections because you just don't have this feature with folders so once you put the images you want to have the client proof in a collection then you want to make sure that your syncing is enabled now the syncing for years has been under the identity plate and i would like pop the identity plate down and show you all that now it's gone so if nothing else i get an updated way to show you this because it's not here anymore the syncing has moved to where it is consistently in both lightrooms it's on the right hand side so if i go to the right hand side there's a little cloud icon up here in the upper right and if i click that little cloud icon in the upper right corner that's where you turn on your syncing and i have 14 photos that are just stuck that will always be sinking for the rest of my life but anyway everything else is synced um so it will say it will basically enable the syncing in my case it says pause syncing because i am syncing my my uh images are always syncing when they're in a collection that isn't enabled to sync so step one put your images in the collection step two make sure syncing is enabled on your account uh and that's the that's any lightroom classic user you don't have to be you don't have to have the one terabyte plan to do that because when you're syncing from lightroom classic as i've said many times before you're only syncing smart previews so it doesn't matter we have always given you an unlimited number of smart previews to sync you're not taking up any space when you do that or taking up any space that you have to pay for let's put it that way pay extra for all right so now that we've done step one put them in a collection step two enable syncing step three you would come over to the left hand side and enable the check box to start syncing so mine's already enabled so it says stop syncing so i'm gonna walk you through this process just to pretend we've never done it before so i'm going to take i'm going to select all these images and i'm just going to not sync a few of them i'm not going to take that one over because it's too dark i don't want to edit that one and i'm not going to take this one over because maybe she's a little too cropped for my taste so i'm just just i'm de-selecting a couple of images i've deselected those two now i'm going to come over here and create a new collection just to walk you through it create a collection yes use the images i've got selected this is angel her name is angel and gallery photography masterclass that gives the link for my photography masterclass you know that all right why don't we just say uh pm for photography masterclass all right so now include in a collection set called current work because that's where i want to put them include the selected photos yes the ones that i took the time to select and more importantly the last item at the very bottom because you've turned syncing on sync with lightroom so when i create a collection anytime that syncing's turned on i get that ability now when i create that collection it puts those i don't know how many there were 53 photos in that collection and it's syncing that collection to lightroom in the cloud perfect smart previews synced up done all right next up what if i'm using um the other lightroom i'm not using classic i'm using uh standard lightroom well if i go to lightroom you're you've already if you've created albums you're done because that's the same thing if you've created albums there is no turn on syncing because you're automatically syncing there is no um uh folders that you have to add images from a folder into your into your albums the only thing you might have to do is if you didn't create an album when you did your import they would be in your all photos area and you would just create an album and put them in that album now if i scroll down most likely yep here is the album i just created call or the collection i just created over in classic called angel tara gallery pm that's the one we just made plus another one that i had done so i'm going to take those two albums that just got created select them and drag them into my current work which is where i want to keep them so whether i did it on lightroom classic or whether i do it in lightroom on ipad iphone android or desktop long as i get them in an album i'm done long as i get them in a collection in lightroom classic and sync i'm done because both of those will put those set of images in the cloud under the name of that album and or collection all right so now that we've done those steps what's next to do the proofing now you head to your web browser there's nothing else oh i take that back there is one more step no no there is it i was thinking something else never mind you head to your web browser because in your web browser i was thinking one more thing for classic but you don't have to do it all right so you head to your web browser and in your web browser here i'm just going to open up a new window just so we can see it a new tab let's go to lightroom lightroom.adobe.com so that's the url that you want to go to to do your client proofing lightroom.adobe.com once you're there if you're not already signed in with your adobe id if you've never done this before you might not be signed in um you would have to sign in with the same adobe id you've been using in lightroom uh like create a cloud basically for lightroom or lightroom classic now once i go there and i'm already signed in then it's going to take me to my all photos views so this is my all photos view but notice i still have those same um collection sets or folders that i was working with in lightroom classic and or lightroom all right so now if i go to current work because remember that's where we put them and i go down to uh angel tara gallery pm that's the one we just created there they are that's it i just need to go there they're there and i can uh rename this if i needed to but that's those are the ones that i told it to sync in that collection or that album all right so now that i've got this album let's say i want to send this to her to do proofing i want her to pick the number of photos that she likes from our shoot that she wants me to deliver us final images and when i say final images that means i i would retouch them i would give her the high-res versions i would give her the web versions i would give her the versions that she needs to do whatever it is we agreed upon and so when i say that i'm just i'm trying to be generic because everyone has a different process with their clients maybe you're not delivering high-res maybe you're only delivering web versions maybe it was a trade maybe she worked for free just for the shots and you did them for free just for your portfolio or practice so that's called usually tfp or trade for print whatever your arrangement is you would um deliver those final images so i typically for most of my shoots allow the client if unless they're paying for more obviously but if it's a trade or anything like that we're just doing it for fun i usually let the client pick up to 10 photos so by shot a thousand they get 10 if i shot 100 they get 10. if i shot 10 000 which i wouldn't do they get 10. now they can always contractually buy more that's of course that's the business of photography if they really like an image over the 10 it it lets them buy it now why 10 i don't know it's an arbitrary number but why so few because typically when you're doing shoots you're typically doing um [Music] you're typically doing wardrobe changes maybe prop changes maybe changes to the set maybe changes to the hair and makeup but you're usually shooting several frames of whatever that change is and it's rare that you're going to have to shoot 10 by as rare as you're going to have um more than 10 looks as what i guess i'm trying to say so that means that like for example we have all of these that are kind of the same look yeah they're same same outfit same but different poses you know how many of those does she need does she need 10 of those probably not a couple maybe and then you go on to the next look how many of those in that dress does she need how many of these and this dress does she need so you you're also kind of making the the model or the um client be selective because if i said pick 50 then they're just going to start picking a lot that not not necessarily that they love but they got a choice of 50. so they're going to start picking a bunch of them but when you narrow it down and and mike's right unless it's a wedding when you narrow it down to a few it makes them be really selective and only pick the they're really their favorite shots unless they want to pay for more then that's different or you sold them a package where they get more whatever that happens to be um um mike you're still on facebook but i'm still seeing your comments so i will answer this one because it is an important one and you're jumping ahead but does she have to sign up for a free adobe account to access we'll get to that in just a minute mr south all right um all right so now we've got the album of how many and again how many ever you let them pick is up to you next and this is this is um since i said this was a technology preview you need to make sure you have this technology preview turned on on your account so in the it used to be the lightroom icon in the upper left corner now it's not you go all the way over to the right icon where you see your profile pic or your your letters your initials for your account and you click on your account and then at the and the fourth item down is technology preview so you want to make sure you go here because if you don't have this turned on you won't be able to do it you go to technology previews and you want to make sure collaborative proofing is turned on so if collaborative proofing is turned on then you're all set you can cancel out if it's not you would check it and then click uh whatever the button is okay or whatever all right so now we got collaborative proofing already turned on in my account and because it's turned on i have an extra button down here in the bottom left corner let me move me over to the right so you can see it in the bottom left-hand corner there's this icon i'll zoom in on it so you can see what it looks like it looks like a image with a check mark on it it's called proofing if you're if you don't see that it's because you don't have that technology preview turned on or maybe i don't know if you're in a different country you might not even have access to that technology preview sean lee in the house what's going on sean lee um so technology preview proofing turned on you see that check mark that icon means you've got the ability to set any album up for proofing alright so i'm going to zoom out and i'm going to click it now i get to sell it says enable proofing to view selected photos and comments here because this is your your dashboard for when the proofing actually happens uh and it's it's even guiding me over here is where you go turn it on in the upper right hand corner so in the upper right hand corner right there i would click this button to enable proofing and that gives you another button to click so click one button to bring up the second button way to go lightroom team i'm just joking all right uh so we enable the client proofing and uh now if there is no limit they could pick all 100 or all 50 then you would leave this box unchecked but of course the reason you probably want them to be able to pick so you know which ones they want is you're going to um you're the screen switch timed out what does that mean irving the screen the screen switch can you guys still see me i can still see me alright so irvin maybe refresh i don't know what's going on all right uh so we're going to limit the selection to how many of our photos we want them to be able to pick and again this number is totally up to you if you want them to be able to pick 12 13 15 whatever you've contractually agreed to i'm going to set mine to 10 which is what i normally do and then um you notice you get a url that is unique to this album they won't see any of your other photos they won't see any of your other clients they won't see anything else except the 50 some odd photos in this album that's it so this is a very unique url just for them to see their photos and nothing else you have in the cloud so when i click the clipboard to copy that link you can always come back and copy it if you forgot to do it uh when i click the clipboard copy that link it copies it to the clipboard now the next step is i would share that link to whoever the client is or whoever i need to see this now remember i said this was a technology preview so there are some limits to that i can give that url out to anyone matter of fact if someone copied it down right now you'd be seeing them right now the problem though is if you give it to more than one person you've limited the number of choices to 10 and it doesn't divide them out by person in other words if i give it to uh person a let's say angel and she picks five but i've also given it to the makeup artist john and john picks five then angel can't pick any more because her ten are already used up so if you need multiple people to make selections from this album bride's family groom's family whatever it is make two albums and just prove like you know call it brides family groom's family set them both up for proofing and then you would um send the different links to the different groups and then they would pick whichever ones they needed because like i said this link is limited to this selection so if you give it to multiple people then you're going to have people overriding each other's picks so just make multiple albums you can make as many albums of the same images as you want without taking up any extra space all right so now we're going to copy that link to the clipboard which we already did now i'm going to switch hats i'm going to take off my photographer hat and put on my client hat and i'm gonna i'm gonna pretend i'm the client now so terry just sent me a link i'm going to pretend i'm not an adobe user at all i don't know anything about creative cloud so i've opened up an incognito window so i've opened up this incognito window and i paste in that link that terry just gave me and i hit return and it takes me in and guess what i can see the photos and i can see big check marks under each one to let me know that i can start selecting them and best of all this is one of my favorite features in the upper right hand corner i see how many i've selected so 0 out of 10 selected so far all right cool now the question that mike asked earlier and this is one of those things where we've given the lightroom team feedback customers are giving the lightroom team feedback we kind of already do this with um or we kind of already changed this with client proofing in indesign because indesign layouts you can now give it to a client to proof and the thing i'm leading up to is a client indesign doesn't have to sign in they could be a guest they just type their name in and start making edits client proofing in lightroom still requires an adobe id a free adobe idea they don't have to pay for anything but they have to go create an adobe id so either a you're going to walk them through creating an adobe id which is just simply go to adobe.com create it adobe id they can even use their social media to sign in and then they're done or you're going to create an adobe id with for them and give it to them to sign in with so you can create like use one of your emails and call it you know john's photography proof proofs at or john's proofs at photography whatever your site is dot com whatever it is and you create a username and password for them if you think your client that you think that's just too much for your client to handle because what will happen is let's say i like this photo i'm her and i click on it it's going to say i need to sign in to make that choice and i'm like what do you mean sign in well i click sign in and it's going to take me through the process of signing in with an adobe id or um signing in with social media so the best part the good part is they can create an account right here on the spot or they can sign in with their social media that they most likely already have and keep going i haven't found this to be too big of a stumbling block for my clients all my clients have had no problems creating their own adobe ids or they've already had one or they signed in with their social media it usually just works i've never had anyone complain about this but i'm just letting you guys know up front that your client is going to need to be prepared to do this step or you're going to do it for them by creating an adobe id that you just give out to clients all right so i've got a an adobe id that i use for this demo let me go grab it here let me copy it and let me paste it in there it is continue and let me sign in with that password copy i i've learned to put the password in a note because i always forget what it is i'm like is there an eight there or s or a dollar sign like because it's a it's one of those all right so anyway continue and now i am signed in with my adobe id and guess what now i can start making choices so i can say i want that one i like this one i'm just randomly doing this by the way i like that one i like this one i like this one so so far four out of ten i like the urban look that one that one the fashion look i like that one and again like i said how many of these in the same look do you need i kind of like that one and yeah yeah tim it's not that password but close enough all right and i like um how many do i have nine out of ten i get one more all right let's do uh let's do this one all right so now i've reached my 10 10 photos i can't select any more i can unselect and reselect different ones but that's it i'm all done now how do i know as the photographer that this happened maybe i sent her the link two days ago and um maybe i send a link to i'm seeing tim and two other favorite photos this is what happens when you make a link public on a stream but what you're going to see is on your mobile device you're going to see a push notification that that some activity has happened in that uh in that gallery so and it's also telling me who because they had to sign in so it's telling me which ones um that are selected or no it's telling me that something happened no so that means that me now i'm going to put my photographer hat back on how do i know um the first photo make it pop how do i know that which ones did she pick so she's done this and she's done now speaking of that let me let me let me guide you on a piece of advice one time i got that push notification oh great they finished making their selections i went to what i'm about to show you i saw their selections i started working on them because right they were done they made their selections halfway through my editing i get another push notification i'm like what wait what they made changes they changed their mind they weren't done they had just gone through the first pass and made some choices and then they went back and made some different choices and i had already started editing a few of the ones that they didn't they didn't even want anymore so my advice to you because there's no way for the client to say done there's no way for them to say i'm finished they just start making choices and maybe they come back tomorrow and make some different choices reach out to your client or have your client you know when you give them the link i usually put it in the email because i emailed the link out when you're done reply to this email letting me know you're done take as much time as you need but i need to know you're finished you've locked in the ones you want because i don't want to edit ones that you've changed your mind on so um i would ask you know if the lightroom team is ever watching this replay or listening i would ask that they make a done button or a that's it you your submit or whatever because there's no submit there's just they check them off that's it so i would love to have a submit button or a finish button or a let the photographer know you're done making your choices button because right now they just make choices all right so now i'm going to switch back to my dashboard and in my dashboard it says no selections have been made yet because i haven't refreshed this page but when i refresh this page there they are those are the 10 that she picked and this is what i meant by oh 13 because some of these were picked by some of these are just likes by the other the other guys all right so i'm going after the ones that i know are checked how is it that you guys were even able to pick some that interesting it should have limit oh okay i see the ones with comments i see it now okay yeah the two the two or three with comments are the ones that i don't need if i didn't have other people messing with this i would only have 10 photos and i see some just have comments so it's letting me know which ones have comments and which ones are the actual picks so what i would do is i would go through the um the ones that i know are picks because they're they're the ones that again would just be from the client and i would go ahead and mark them as picks so right now some of these were marked as picks from before but i want to i want to go through and i would make sure that i only picked the 10 that the client actually asked for so in this case i'm going to say that one that's just a comment i didn't pick that one that one that one that one that one i know the ones i picked that one that one that one one of these is mine one of these isn't that one all right let's see how many i have one oops hang on go back one two three four five six seven eight nine and i think it's one of these two i don't remember maybe this one all right ten all right but normally you wouldn't have that because you would just have the one person picking their tin all right so now we've got our 10 selected and there's the ability to add to or come down here and there's the ability to create an album so um if i don't check these if i un if i just deselect these i just want to show you this button because this is the way i would do it quickly i'll do it this way i'll do it the normal way and then um show you guys just we would eliminate the ones i know i don't need if you just had the 10 here then you would just go ahead and just click create album because that's going to create a new album of just the clients picks so let's say game 13 well just for the benefit of that we gave him 13. they they selected them or they made comments to a couple even though they only picked their 10 uh then i would go ahead and just say create album when i click create album that gives me the ability to give this a to tell me where to put it or create a brand new album so i'm going to create a brand new album i'm going to call that brand new album angel tara photography master class edits and create that album all right so now that will create the album probably down here at the bottom yep down here at the bottom of my album list and now those ones that they picked are in it so now when i go back to lightroom and i scroll down and i let it sink for a second i see it sinking up there that album should appear at the very bottom when that album appears at the very bottom then i can organize it where i want it to be and there it is so now i'm going to organize it into my current work where i want it to be all right so now when we go into the um when we go into her edits those are the 13 and then i would um i would also be able to see whatever the comments were as well so if i go to one of these that i think had a comment on it let's see the comments should show up there as well even though i'm not seeing it just yet but this is where your comments would be if they did not only pick a photo but they wrote something about the photo as well all right and that's that way this by the way is a fairly new feature this was in mobile but it wasn't in desktop so the ability to see the comments is there now all right so now we got our photos that they wanted they want me to edit now the question becomes what if i'm doing this in lightroom classic how how um where does it show up in lightroom classic first one should add a comment all right i'll check it but this one let's see for whatever reason i'm not seeing that comment just yet all right um but anyway if i were to go look at this in lightroom classic well where would they be so let's pop back over to classic these were the original ones we we um synced so where do they come in in lightroom classic i have a collection set called from lightroom mobile that's where all the collections or albums come in to lightroom classic that were created in lightroom so in other words if i shot with my phone in the lightroom app and i created an album on my phone and i go back to lightroom classic that's where it would put that album is in this one collection set so all the collections that you created out in the field or in in the other lightroom appear here so if i scroll down there it is angel tara edits so now i can pick up that collection and put it in the same place put it in my current work so i can move it it doesn't have to stay in that from lightroom mobile but that's where that's where it gets them from all right so there's the uh like there it is so there's the ones with the edits and also the comments would appear here as well so for some reason again it's a technology preview so everything's not finished yet but your comments would appear that came in from lightroom down here as well uh and for whatever reason i'm not pulling those comments in from that technology preview just yet all right so now we've got the selections that they wanted what would i do next i would do two things i've already made the collection or album for their edits just as a reminder that these are the client picks i would go mark them as picks so i would select all and just in lightroom classic i would hit the letter p to mark them all as picks meaning these are the ones the client want gave them the actual pick flag so i'm so i never forget that that's one that they picked and lightroom uh in regular lightroom i would go in and do the same thing but it's unfortunately not a p it's the letter hang on let me go here it's the letter z as in zed or zebra uh so the letter z is the pick flag in lightroom um lightroom versus lightroom classic where it's a p as in pic all right so now they're all picked so what's next whether you're in lightroom or whether you're in lightroom classic you've gotten the feedback back from the client take as much time as you need the album would be ready in years yeah i know give them a deadline if you need to but anyway once you've once you've gotten the uh did i hear correctly that can the client add a comment to his choices yes they can so let me go back to the to the web browser and i'll show you where they do that if they click on a photo they can add their comments here so they could go in and say um this um i don't know this dress needs ironing i don't know ironing in photoshop let's do it that way so they could add their comment right there and like i said the comment should show up it should sync that comment back down so it's showing from tw proofs which is the name of my adobe id that i used that's the client that came that's the comment that came in and they also have the ability to um of course choose that photo so they can they can add comments or just choose them either way all right let's go back to lightroom classic and like i said um it when it syncs it should sync that comment over i'm not sure why i'm not getting them today but things happen in technology previews or they don't sometimes all right so now what's next steps next steps are editing delivering the final images so at this point we've got the images that they they chose or some of you chose as well by uh making those comments and i would now be able to go in and do my edits so my editing could either be just making adjustments in lightroom or it could be retouching in photoshop it could be both it could be either one but typically for me with portrait work it's going to be a little of both for example let's go into this headshot right here so i could see when i zoom out the shot looks pretty good but when i zoom in i can see some things that i probably would adjust like just fly away hairs over here on the left hand side she's got you know again from based on the lighting or based on her she might have a dark shadow or two under the eyes that i might adjust she's got some flyaway hairs on her forehead that i might want to adjust so i might do those things whether i do them in lightroom or photoshop they need to be done so i would then analyze and look at okay what can i do here in lightroom first whether i'm going to go to photoshop or not so i would head over to the develop module and i would do a few things first and foremost in my lens corrections i would enable the profile correction which will make adjustments based on the camera and lens you used it didn't really do it much to this photo which is great it didn't make any severe changes since i shot this in raw or not hang on hold on i shot this a long time ago let me switch the calibration to something new there we go all right since i shot this in raw i also have the ability to choose a raw profile so maybe i'll choose portrait makes a minor adjustment to get the image started next i usually like to let lightroom take a crack at the tonal adjustment so i usually do an auto tone i may not agree with the auto tone results but i usually do an auto tone just to see what it gives me kind of darken the image a little bit and i may not agree with that so i may bring the exposure back up a little bit maybe like split the difference somewhere in there and then i would also check the white balance to make sure that the white balance is good on this photo using the white balance eyedropper which i just did all right so now that i've done that the things that i talked about adjusting or just retouching i start to ask myself could i get rid of those flyaway hairs in lightroom maybe would it be easy probably not be painful because the lightroom healing brush is just not as good as the photoshop healing brush could i adjust for maybe a couple of the little acne marks here in lightroom sure i could do that i can grab my um my spot removal tool or healing brush and i can go here and say oh you know that one little pimple on the chin it's gone now cool and maybe that's one little pimple here on the on the right-hand side it's gone now great and i could do that i can get rid of those things oh wait hold on what the hell was this set to hold on something was drastically set wrong here oh it's on clone versus heel let's put it on heel there you go that's better yeah it shouldn't be adding marks it should be removing them all right now this line under the eye could i adjust that yeah maybe probably want to use it from the part under the eye yeah i could probably do that so i would start asking myself if i'm going to be able to finish it all here in lightroom awesome finish it all here in lightroom and just get it done but like i said the the flyaway hairs i'm going to have to go to photoshop 4 anyway just because it would be easier faster so then i'm not going to spend a lot of time on the spot removal tool or healing brush in lightroom because the one in photoshop is better so if i'm going to photoshop i'm going to do it all in photoshop if i'm not going to photoshop then i'm going to do it all in lightroom if i can do a lot of the non-destructive stuff in lightroom first then i'm going to do that and get it out of the way all right so let's um where do you do that in lightroom oh someone you're asking someone else something else [Music] just checking the comments make sure i'm not missing something okay all right so now since i decided that it's i need more work to do just with the hair alone it's just easier to do it in photoshop then i wouldn't waste a lot of time trying to retouch this in lightroom so i'm going to head over to photoshop how do i do that right click on the photo edit in adobe photoshop 2021 that since this is a raw file it didn't ask me any questions it should just be taking me over to photoshop because raw files don't get edited it makes a copy right off the bat so a lot of people want to come over to photoshop and duplicate the background right away so they can work on a copy i'm already working on a copy so i don't spend a lot of time duplicating the background the minute i get into photoshop if i'm coming from lightroom because i'm already coming from a copy anyway but just for the sake of people that get nervous let's go and duplicate the background and if nothing else just to show the before and afters all right so let's go ahead and zoom into this area that i'm talking about with these little fly away hairs here that we can take care of so now i'm in photoshop i switch over to my healing brush switch over to a stylus and make my brush size smaller using my wacom cintiq and we're just going to brush away those little flyaway hairs coming off the side there you could use clone you could use a patch tool you can use a lot of different methods to get rid of these little flyaway hairs but if it's just a few i'm just going to go ahead and brush them off if it was a lot more i'd probably clone them off because she's on a pretty standard white background so it'd be easy to get rid of those either way yeah like these that's a lot more work so i'm just going to go ahead and grab my clone stamp tool and now that i'm on the clone stamp tool we'll go ahead and make the brush a little bit bigger and then we'll um i'm going to soft brush okay so we'll go ahead and hold down the option or alt key click and then come over here and just start cloning that extra hair out of here something like that and again could i do this in lightroom maybe would it take a lot longer and be a lot harder yes would the results be as good probably not would it be non-destructive though yep it would be so you have to weigh what's more important to you how it looks and the time it takes versus being able to undo it i'm never going to want to put that hair back so undoing is not that important to me all right now that we got that out of the way we can quickly zoom out take a quick look all right yeah it looks much better just not having that flyaway hair over there on the side now i need to see what's going on up here just a few hairs so i'll go back to my my healing brush spot healing brush and just kind of brush some of this away i don't need to take it all away but just some of those hairs that were hanging down that i can easily and quickly get rid of now i don't spend a lot of time doing what people call skin smoothing because skin is generally already smooth what makes it look not smooth is when you have shadows off artifacts on the face or um acne or pimples or moles or whatever and it casts a shadow that's what makes this that makes the skin look not smooth so if you just kind of take care of that shadow work or in this case like she's just got a little bit here there's little imperfections you just kind of take care of some of that then you will you probably won't need to do anything else to the skin skin is usually pretty already pretty smooth already all right that's about it one little line there it kind of looks weird on her lip and she's got some now i can see it she's got some lipstick on her teeth and in that case that's not gonna do a good job so i'm gonna switch over to the patch tool and just kind of patch away some of that pink off the teeth it happens happens to me when i wear lipstick too and it happens all right that's why i choose not to wear lipstick because i just don't want it on my teeth all right okay now how picky you are that's going to be up to you but um i'm going to just stop there and you and your client actually now she's got some interesting contacts i can see the line of the contact so i know their contacts so maybe i don't want to be able to see the line in the contacts just kind of take that out patch it out maybe okay i'll go over here got a few lines now um a lot of people say would you whiten the eyes would you do this would you do that maybe but a lot of times uh the eyes again are already pretty natural looking i won't say white because white isn't necessarily natural looking in eyes you just want them to be bright and sharp not necessarily stark white because that actually looks ghostly that looks unnatural okay so now that i've done that the next thing i might do is um do a little sharpening on the eyes i can see the the catch light of my octa soft box in there so it looks pretty good let's go in and use the sharpening tool i like the sharpening tool because it does a good job and it lets me isolate the sharpening to just the areas that need it so to make those eyes pop just a little bit more make them look a little bit more sharp okay now the other thing is there's like a shadow or something going on up there that now i can see it zoomed out that's kind of bugging me so i might take that whole area and patch it just to kind of blend that in a little bit more all right there we go coming along nicely okay and then there's this shadow under the neck it's not doing any favors not doing make not helping the portrait in any way let's go ahead and take care of that and then last but not least i might do a little uh dodging and burning to add a little bit more contour to the face so i've got a dodge and burn action that basically just duplicates the layer sets it to luminosity blend mode switches to my burn tool and [Music] sets that layer i think no it did not change the opacity so that's it so now i would go in with my burn tool and kind of darken the areas right along the edge and under here the areas that are already dark make them a little darker so just kind of make it look a little bit more contour then switch over to the dodge tool there it is and i do the opposite the areas that are already bright so instead of light brightening or whitening the eyes i might just dodge them a little bit to make them a little brighter also for hair you can make the hair pop a little bit more by just dodging it making a little brighter and this is what i did so this is the before that's the after so it just adds that little bit of contour and sculpting to the subject all right if i'm happy with that i would i probably don't keep the dodge and burn layer i just don't need it and then i would go ahead and just save it why can't you create proofs from our own classic or uh i'm not sure what you mean but raul if i'm saying that correctly why can't we create proofs from lightroom classic or lightroom i'm not sure what you're asking i just did all right so now that i've saved that i'm going to close it when i head back to lightroom or lightroom classic it puts it right next to the original in the same album or collection so i'm in this collection it made a psd and put it right next to the dng so it put it right next to the the original so if we look at these again just quickly go full screen there's the original with the fly away hairs looks okay but there's the one that looks a lot better now the last thing i might do or i might have done it beforehand i might do it after is just add a little sharpening here in lightroom it doesn't really matter when i do it let's go to detail and notice that the sharpening on this hasn't happened because it did happen already on the um on the [Music] original dng so i'm going to go ahead and just sharpen it a little bit more maybe up to around 40 or 45 and there's a cool thing called masking that is definitely used on people when i hold down my option or alt key and slide the masking over so i'm holding down my option key so you can see it the areas that remain white are what's getting sharpened the areas that go dark are the areas like skin that i don't want sharpened all right so let's go ahead and do that okay you saw that i did it on lightroom web well that's where the feature is being built first so it may make its way into the actual apps but right now it is a lightroom web feature using your content from lightroom or lightroom classic it's not even finished yet so that's why it started somewhere it started on the web first as a technology preview so hopefully that will help you all right so now that we've got that done you would just rinse and repeat go through all your images and you would do your edits to each one whether it's just an edit in lightroom or just to edit in photoshop i've got like two minutes left so let's talk about delivery so now that i've got this image done let's say i got them all done but let's say you know in this case i just got this one or how many ever i need so let's say i finish these two for example now i would go in and export them out for the client so when i go to my file menu and choose export i have the option to export to a specific folder you know put them in a subfolder get rename them uh what format do i want to put them in so forth and so on so let's just run through it really quickly but i'm giving them to them for what and we'll just do it to the desktop for now if i'm doing it for web in other words for them to share on social media then i might say okay this one is going to put them in a folder called social out on my desktop and i don't need to rename them that's fine i want the format to be jpeg i want the color space to be srgb for the web i want to limit the size i want to resize the image they don't need a 48 megapixel or 12 or 13 or 14 megapixel image for the web so i'm going to make it on the longest edge for example instagram recommends 1080 so 1080 pixels on the longest edge resolution 72 pixels per inch is fine and uh no sharpening because i've already sharpened them they don't need to be sharpened at such a low resolution include my copyright and contact info and watermarking is up to you so in other words if you want to put a visible watermark on your photos that they share on the web that's between you and your client so i would choose mine if i did that and then when i export this out it shows shows me those two photos and there's the one which i hadn't retouched yet but there's my logo on it and here's the other one that i did retouch and there's my watermark on it so those would be the two images that i would now send over to my client as being edited so that's it why is there exclamation point in some of my images in lightroom classic that exclamation point means that the metadata is out of sync so i just hadn't clicked on it and said yes overwrite the metadata settings with the ones i'm using right now that can happen when images are stored in different places and moved or whatever and the metadata is just not not in check yet so i can quickly fix that just by doing that and being done with it i just hadn't done it okay um that's how i would deliver now if i wanted to deliver also for print let's go back to that same photo file export and we are out of time i would just redo all the settings for print but i think i already have one for print and it would just be those settings and you can save your preset when you're done all right so with that said i want to thank you guys i am out of time next up is the photoshop daily creative challenge and we will catch you on the next one bye everybody [Music] [Music] you

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