PHIL HELLMUTH Called Me an IDIOT for this...High Stakes Duel II Recap

what's up people dean eggs here just coming off a uh head shaker of a match against phil hellmuth uh hopefully you guys watched it on poker go um it was a marathon uh if you remember i had him down 97 to 3. so we grinded him down when we were deep stack and then he was able to you know double in a big pot and then you know proceeded to hit like river after river and keep pots and then all of a sudden the blinds are high and wham bam thank you ma'am dean eggs is out but i wanted to go over a few of the hands because phil has this uh tendency to get the most upset and blow up and call me an idiot or other people an idiot for the most like standard plays imaginable right they're not even spots where it's like oh what are you doing calling 10 bets with nine deuce offsuit they're just abc and i want to go over a few of them so you have a better understanding because what i think phil does is and he's been great at this for a long time as a tournament player is he plays 40 big blinds or less quite often right that's been his bread and butter it's not deep state cash deep stack cash games and stuff like that so for him he extrapolates from 40 big blinds and uses that strategy thinks like that when he's playing 300 or 500 big blinds deep right which we know is not not the case so for him he sees a hand like 6 8 suited he's like well listen if i only got 40 big blinds i can't be calling re-raises and things like that but when you're 300 big blinds playing heads up in position it's a cardinal sin to fold a hand like that we're going to go over some of the more you know detailed reasons as to why but first and foremost when you're playing heads up and you're deep right there is a line where if you're folding too often right your opponent could then theoretically just three bet you a ton and print ev regardless of what they have right they could literally do it every time if you don't adjust and start you know at least folding at the correct frequency or you know if someone's egregious with it then you can start over calling um phil doesn't really grasp this so well again because i think partly because he comes from the 40 big blind territory world and you know doesn't get it so let's go over the first one since we were talking about six eight of hearts okay so in this first hand i start to hand with 53 000 phil had 47 000 and the blinds are 75 150. so still incredibly small blinds we are incredibly deep okay so in this hand i opened two and a half big blinds which is 375 okay with six eight of hearts just you know like abc standard you know this is just what you do right um now fill three bets to 1500 which is exactly 10 big blinds okay so i opened the two and a half he's made it 10 and we're sitting on like 300 300 big blinds and i'm in position with a suited connector like 680 hearts so again he's thinking from the place of well i mean i made a big raise but it ain't that big you know it's actually just pretty it's a good size races i like his race size there you should be making it about 10x but to think that 6 8 suited folds in position here it's kind of silly really i mean it's a great hand to call with in position so i of course do make the call and now the flop comes king of hearts six of clubs five of hearts uh it's a great flop for us we got middle pair you know flush draw pretty pretty strong hand now he goes ahead and bets fifteen hundred into three thousand it's fine you know he has ace eight here yeah it's fine here i think the size in this spot typically should either be lower or bigger right you kind of want to polarize your sizes as the three better so you stick you kind of want to be away from the middle mid pot in your half pot range and you want to kind of eat a bit small like 25 to 30 percent or a bit bigger like two-thirds pot or something like that okay he likes to go half it's fine it's you know it's a small thing but there are there are sizes that are a little bit more optimal uh that accomplish more so i have a choice here i could raise but i don't think that's a good play i think it's a really strong hand to call with you need some really strong hands in your calling range i mean you could race for sure there's no nothing wrong with that but as my general strategy with phil was going to play out i thought i'm just going to flat here a lot so i need to fly it with some pretty good good strong hands so the turn card is the nine of spades now phil bets 3 800 into 6 000 okay so here's the issue for phil which he doesn't really grasp i don't think too well is that card that deep is generally speaking gonna be a check right because that nine connects with more hands that your opponent has than you do right your opponent can have i mean you could have seven eights and stuff but phil doesn't really three bet with those hands right so i'm gonna have sets of sixes and fives he doesn't three bet those maybe he turned three nines but overall when you think of the number of hands he can have versus the ones i can have on that turn card that turn card's gonna be better for my range than his all right so he bets 3800 he's going with the bluff again we don't we don't raise here you know we've got plenty of equity even if he does have aces that's fine we still have a six seven eight or a heart to catch rivers the seven of diamonds and now he bets 7 600 um i mean i could raise here in theory but i was pretty convinced that the only hand he's calling me with if i raise is an eight and some of those eights could very small chance have a 10 in it you know in a cash game you should be more apt to raise anyway right but in a tournament uh you kind of want to be a little bit more careful sometimes because you know you're on you know limited stack size so it felt like a fine call but anyway phil berates me and says you know this is why i'm going to win the match because you're calling with stupid hands like that and it's like what he always gets mad about the most like i don't know there was nothing i did there that was anything out of the ordinary i called called called called with a hand that's supposed to call call call call all right let's go on to the next hand this king nine of diamonds was uh was a hand that really stuck with me we start this hand i was up to seventy thousand phil had thirty thousand we are on one fifty three hundred blinds i go ahead and raise the button with the king nine of diamonds i make it seven fifty which is two and a half times the blind which was my standard uh at this depth as it you know we get shorter and more shallow my race sizes are going to start going down so now phil bets three bets to 2100 okay he's got a hundred big blinds i've made a two and a half x he's made it 7x that's not good it's just not theoretically very very good um phil berated me for this one saying i should not be calling with king nine of diamonds okay if you look at a range that calls a three bet and you eliminate king nine of diamonds and six eight of hearts what's left there aren't enough hands left to defend properly and what you end up doing is you make your calling range so face up right if you're folding hands like this it's just it's just astronomical to think that you know folding king nine of diamonds in his mind is a thing right um again it all comes from the mindset of i'm a 40 big blind guy so this is what i would do at 40 i must do the same thing at 500 and we just know that's not true empirically this is just obvious truth okay so anyway he three bets is 2100 we have the king nine of diamonds we of course take the flop which is normal and the flop comes down jack 4 4 with the jack of diamonds now phil goes ahead and he bets his half pot again once again as i said before this is a spot where either one a bit smaller or bigger he goes for the half pot again it's fine i'm nitpicking right now but it's not bad if you will it's just not optimal uh now with the k9 of diamonds there is no there is no world there is no chance that you can ever profitably fold here on the flop right you need to defend a decent amount after getting three bet and you have to call a lot of flops i have a three card straight flush i've got back door hands and i've got king nine high which could be the best hand he does three bets sometimes with ten six offsuit with worse kings like king five and stuff like that so in position you definitely want to um defend a hand like king nine of diamonds so once again i make for all intents and purposes what's an absolutely 100 standard call okay now there's 8 400 in the pot the turn card is the nine of spades now phil checks okay so we've turned our nine which is likely to be the best ten okay he might have tens sure but typically phil in these spots he's gonna bet his hands himself right he's not usually uh one to bet the flop check you know check over pairs on the turn i mean he could sure but anyways i feel like we have the best hand uh now a very high percentage of time can deny some equity possibly get called by hand like sevens or eights so i of course uh bet half pot forty two hundred uh on the turn in position is different than out of position on the turn is different so this is where half pot actually makes some sense uh and phil thinks for ben and he calls he calls me with ace eight that's a mistake too okay very very difficult against good players to think that you can call this turn and then just like hope on the river your opponent doesn't barrel or that your hand is good or that you spike one of three outs maybe which is an ace like if i have a nine or a jack he's got three outs if i don't i probably have a decent amount of equity and if i do and miss i'm probably going to bed again so if you have that ace 8 you have to be prepared to call this turn bet and then face a big bet on the river with a really weak hand right i mean just when i call the flop i have to have something right something wrapped around the jack maybe maybe a better ace high maybe pocket pairs overall my range that calls and bets this turn he can safely fold ace 8 but he does not he likes to call river card is the 10 of diamonds not a great card for me he checks you know he could have king queen king 10 a bunch of hands like that so i just check it back and he turns over the ace 8 so we win that one blow up calling with king nine of diamonds this idiot and again remember in this case i made it two and a half before he made it seven it's important to think sometimes and not in these the number of chips twenty one hundred how many big blinds is that it's only seven and we're playing a hundred big blinds deep i've already put in two and a half so it's four and a half more i'm getting a very very good price all right on the last one the last hand was uh this was a key one i could have ended the match on this hand but i did not and i'll explain why um and this is one where he he went ballistic as well so he limped on the button with 255 and he's got 19k i've got 81k at this point so he's still sitting on close to 40 big blinds he he limps which which he does you know 90 of the time or something like that and i make it 3x my strategy in the big blind in these spots is to make it a mix between three and seven i didn't have i only had one seven come up and i do randomize this to a certain degree um and i also do some randomization or do some some frequency stuff with which hands i do raise because i don't always raise with 6'4 suited sometimes i do sometimes i don't i do it at a frequency and i balance that so it's very so i have both so i have 64 suited in my calling range and i also have it in my uh you know my raising range after the limp so i make it 1500 to 3x and that's 3x as i said now he limped with the nines and he he re-raises me to 3700 okay so that's 2 200 more which is four a little over four big blinds i've just put in three big blinds it's four more it's essentially a min raise okay so now and i'm also getting a decent price because there's already like a you know decent money in there so i'm getting two and a half or three to one with a hand that does play well post flop and it's one that doesn't typically get you in a lot of trouble right you know you either smash it or you're just you know you're out of there so and it plays fine against ace king ace queen obviously if you've got an over pair you're you know you're you're riding way uphill but it's not like if you flop a four or a six you're going broke a lot of times if i mean if you're gonna go broke it's gonna be a cooler situation where you make two pair and lose to a set or you make um you know a flush and he has the higher diamonds or something like that so it's very very rare where if you make your hand you're going to lose and again the price is just way too good so the mistake he makes here is making it 3 700. if he makes it 5000 then you could theoretically say well yeah that's a lot that's a lot closer because he's gotten shorter on chips and as you get shorter on chips which is much more of his comfort zone short stack um it allows you the opportunity to uh you know fold some of these more marginal hands you just cannot fold a hundred plus big blinds deep now the flop comes four four three with two hearts i check and phil that's four thousand okay now everyone's like well why don't you just go all in ah you know it's like so easy everyone's like an armchair quarterback because they see how the hand played out and they're like wow this is an obvious you know check raise get it in right but when you think about his range that limps there and then re-raises right it's gonna be you know high pair heavy and ace king ace queen right ace king ace queen is drawing dead against this unfortunately if he bets this flop and we check raise he's going to fold that hand some of the time we don't want him to ever be able to fold right um and we also figured that if he does have an over pair he's very likely to bet the turn with it or you know bet the river or you know something along those lines so i just call protecting my calling range in this spot is somewhat important because i also need to call over here with some marginal hands you know some you know ace jack ace queen ace ten i can't only have those hands when i call because again i didn't re-raise pre-flop making it unlikely that i have aces kings or queens etc so to protect my range sometimes with the strong hands you're going to call i wasn't doing a lot of check raising it would have been very suspicious and also doesn't accomplish all that much other than you know tying him to the hand but on a board like that if he does have an over pair he's typically going to be pretty tied to it anyway so i call the turn card is the eight of hearts now that's not a good card for me um for a couple reasons number one you know hearts got there and number two it's a scare card for him right so i check of course and he checks it back now with his two nines which is which is a close play considering the fact that he's got about 12 000 left and there's 15 in the pot um you know to just give away the free card there but i don't blame him i don't think it's bad i don't think it's it's it's whatever sometimes you should probably have nines there now the river card comes the five of spades which connects some straights it connects ace deuce it connects six seven and there's hearts there so when you think about where i rank in my range of hands or at least the nutted hands i could have flushes here right i could have straights here i could have full houses here i could have a better four right so i don't rank all that high in my range of hands right i still rank quite high with trip fours but there are a whole bunch of hands that beat me now the question is this as played he bet the floppy checked the turn right so that typically is going to be an ace high hand rather than a pocket pair okay he's likely not going to have nines tens queens kings or aces he's likely to have ace high okay so in that case when there's 15 out there and he's got 12 left if i bet 12 000 he's likely going to fold all of his ace highs okay i don't want him to do that right since that's his most likely hand that's the one i'm going to target um and because the board is so scary if there were no hearts on board if the 8 was not a heart then i'm moving all in but because there are so many strong hands that i could have here i elect to go with a third pot bet of 5000 which will get some ace high calls it's going to get all the over pairs to call and i go ahead and bet the 5 000 he snapped calls leave him with 7 thousand i've got 93. looks like a pretty good spot um and he's like well why don't you know check raise only on the flop i'm like well first of all i didn't know you had exactly nines i also didn't know a heart was going to come on the turn and i also didn't know that you were going to you know check it back on the turn and stuff like that so anyway um obviously in hindsight looking at how the board run out i wish i would have check raised the flop but put me in the same situation at the same time in the tournament in the in the sit and go i would not have i would have 100 just check called again and i would do it again tomorrow so those are three hands that uh spoke to me in terms of and they're like one they're three of the very few three bed hands because he does not re-raise pre very often right it's a very low frequency thing so in his mind he thinks listen man i don't re-raise that much so you should be overfolding to me right that's what he's thinking you know that's why he gets frustrated because he plays so tight he doesn't three bet and then he does so he expects people to just like go oh my god that's phil i'm gonna fold king queen suited you know what i mean or stuff like that so um yeah but but there's other reasons too why specifically against him because of the way he constructs his three betting range it's even more important to defend to defend wide in position and the way that he plays his hands post flop on flop and turn it's even better right it's even it's you can actually play an even wider range so if i was playing say against a really top heads-up player i would fold more to their three bets than i would to fills and that's okay because phil sometimes gonna have some strong hands in there he's gonna have a whole bunch of trash but i've got position and he's out of position and he's gonna struggle uh deep stacked against me in those spots so as you saw when the when there was a lot of play you know it was pretty one-sided performance i think it was pretty clear that you know he was he was struggling to win any big pots it was very very difficult for him i imagine in the next match he will switch it up and try to do some new things but i'm prepared for that as well and i'm prepared to add some things to the repertoire but for the most part when deep stacked there's not much that's going to change the thing is if he's watching this video or whatever it doesn't matter all that much because he just won't agree you know what i mean like you could get you could literally prove him mathematically the king nine of diamonds 300 lines deep is a slam dunk call you could ask hundred of the absolute top greatest no limit holden players in the world if they would call there they all would accept him and that's his thing you know he has his mad white magic or whatever he does but you know this is just a case of that specific part of his game or him thinking that's a mistake that's that's a leak okay that's just unequivocally unequivocally unequivocal unequivocably a mistake and uh the hands that i played here in all intensive purposes with standard the only one that you know you could make some arguments against is the uh 6'4 diamonds check raise flop uh again but i think i made a good explanation for the reasons why i didn't do that so i'm looking forward to um playing the next match unfortunately the people that bet on him uh at plus 150 because i was three to uh the betting odds had me at about minus 150. they were they don't they watched it and they don't want to bet on him anymore because they saw you know that deep stack um my advantage was much bigger than you would expect uh so again i'm gonna go into the next match i'm probably gonna build a lead and when we play deep stack and then um hope this time to either finish him off when i have the chance or you know actually win some pots when the blinds get up there so hope you guys enjoyed this video i hope you learned something about the differences between really deep stack play and playing um you know short stacked tournaments you certainly do feels absolutely right off 40 big blinds you can't be all loosey-goosey playing six eight of hearts for all kinds of big re-raise and stuff but when you're 300 big blind deep and your position you should be looking for excuses to call or to re-raise rather than fold 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