Patreon EXCLUSIVE | Dancing Shadows feat. Mario | The Joe Budden Podcast

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is fine and then it puts them on my algorithm and I go there and I laugh because when you go to the girls page that's where you see the [ __ ] you know God so now I'm saying oh my man from over here like her and he like oh they both like you got they liking away Instagram just put everything in the Forefront damn it's the same thing you see you you might see one of or two the same girls I see if we leave both leave you know Chicago you might we might be at the same spot see the same girl two different days but it's like Instagram you like it it's like you know what I'm saying it's just it's out there when Instagram first came out like the real [ __ ] like I I wasn't liking my joints pics the the the the psychology change kind of for some reason n but when Instagram first came out it would show the world that you liked it yeah and it to show who you follow show mention page or whatever it was was that was dis get rid of that I used to follow mad uh nature pictures and [ __ ] it's like a [ __ ] like look Instagram this I got to do for us man it's like I wonder if they got like [ __ ] y [ __ ] got [ __ ] divorc [ __ ] had a lot of fight with their girls behind their you like wait why you like so many of her pictures f one of them M like yo you see them pictures though why you ain't like the one with she had the jeans on she was was walking her dog why you like the one with that ass out it's like I don't like dogs out there you ready for man yeah you remember uh just a friend no he was kind of having but in a different way music just a music music yeah music so but he was having that but in a different way you are different want me tell you why what I'm saying when music I'll Tell You music put out just a friend and we clowned him years later cuz like yo that's your friend why you all his songs is about trying to bag the friend so we take it like girl got to be your friend first oh God oh [Music] my R&B [ __ ] on me [ __ ] I'm in with thaty gentl not work come on manake crazy I've been trying to figure the Tims out since he got in here cuz he's fresh to death I didn't know that Mario was so well dressed but his even his dirty Tims is part of the well dress how you did that [ __ ] it's uh it's a partnership that Gan did with timbering it's Gan and Tim you know yeah I like grungy [ __ ] because I'm like the Baltimore side of me like the grungy [ __ ] and then the R&B side of me like the clean [ __ ] so it's like got it see that makes sense gon CH timberin why y'all don't get him like y'all be getting me fashion EAS if I was around a [ __ ] every day I tear his ass up too PA hey do that we crack on WE crack on him for being a fashion Easter so if I was around him every day I'll say the same [ __ ] all right let me turn my song Back On go crazy talk like that I a even know Javan had to deal with but all the interviews that this [ __ ] do I always be watching saying yo people don't really get to the bottom of this dirty Ma and [ __ ] that may be my first [ __ ] question why' you do this who wrote this [ __ ] man you know it's crazy a lot of times write song you know it's like writing songs is like shooting movies my [ __ ] it's in real life [ __ ] never goes that way it's a song it's exaggerated [ __ ] it's it's a movie it's a audio movie it's it's a fictitious story that you're selling like women want to believe that what you saying is true I told you I was 18 when I did this song I didn't know [ __ ] about love [ __ ] I'm eight matter of fact I was 17 18 I was with short was Milli you know what I'm saying so [ __ ] we just selling we selling energy and we selling ideas that's it but y'all take it person go ahead keep going keep going yeah when your girl playing this in the house over like yeah you start taking personal yeah we just we we I Choose You Like I said I've been on I Choose You Yeah was these are the singles that's one of the Wes I did actually me and me and um me and baby face did that's it right baby face man wests Side Highway you throw that on yeah these are the singles that I'm playing and record records that you are that stretch to get it done you can't get it done on that stretch what you doing you got to pack it up should pack it up oh yeah no from Wall Street to from Wall Street to Dyan meliss like the long ride what's up up I a seen a minute hold up hold up io on them io on them he's talking to you I just said how you doing I a't seen you in a minute how you doing you good I'm good I'm good it's good to see you you look great yo what the [ __ ] man I told you what I told you about biging [ __ ] up in front of us [ __ ] talking about man she was quiet the whole time witho ass [ __ ] I hate these smooth [ __ ] that come with the cape on but I told you about bigging [ __ ] up just say how you doing [ __ ] yo I'm on some hating [ __ ] today [Laughter] I'm we got we got to get the big K Corso dog cage yeah I get it it's only girl in here so it's like yes you know what I'm saying you're the only woman I get it hey Melissa I get it I got you you understand Viola that's V offences but she had the snot [ __ ] got here Melissa y'all are going to stop disrespecting a [ __ ] Legend two of them thank you two legends huh do you get how do you feel when some of your best music like I think this is one of your best songs how do you feel when like some of your best joints maybe don't go as recognized as you think they should you know it's crazy I look at it like when I read incredible books right that are like they have so much knowledge in them and so much gravity to them and so much um information but not everybody knows about it people missed it yeah because maybe it's a timing maybe it's just it's it's I Feel Like That album went above above a lot of people's heads I was in a really God creative space like I wasn't it was I was just making music when you're in a space like that it's always a risk because you're not really paying attention to what's going on outside you're not really paying attention what's going on in it you know so that's where I was when I made that but if you listen back to it if you're a music love and you listen to this project I think you appreciate it it's incredible thank you bro it it really is incredible thank you tell me about uh your worst breakup or when short already left you for a niggaer that was richer or more popping or more famous than you hold on ask me that again tell me about your worst breakup or the time when shorty left you for someone that was wealthier or more famous than you I mean I think that [ __ ] happened all the time and we don't know it you know what I'm saying it's like they put us in it say we I'm saying I'm saying it's like we talking about when you know talking about you talking about you when you know when you find out and tell us how you found out about Dude tell us what happened when you went to his house tell us what happened n that [ __ ] never happened to me I ain't going to hold you it never happened to me before never happened to me in life because when I embed myself in a woman's life it's so like it take a while for her to get up out of there no I'm I'm being being honest with you like I I like I start from day high from high to I hate you but I love you it's like it's Melissa you're a woman you know it's like it's not as you you might go sit up too sit up stop looking fix you might go not I'm just saying not her you know what I'm saying just like as a woman she knows like when you dating somebody and your whole worlds are intertwined mentally physically spiritually I'm not just like a physical person it's mental for me and it's energetic and so when it's that deep I mean it might be like a little let me try to get you back but it's like it's gonna be hard it's gonna be hard it's like well I'm ask she's not gonna be able to just go like that are you relationship based oh never mind I got it never mind got no hold on you said relationship based mentally or just like what do you mean my mindset or uh do you like to be in relationship PN I like relationships but I I I'm very private so a lot of times my I had four three four relationships throughout my career but you really don't know about it just three or four yeah Rel relationship B relationship why I'm not relationship based because I got nine relationships saying but if they long then relationship based but they like yeah spread out over time has your has your and listen y'all feel free to jump in I just got mad questions I love this at any time tell me about when you had to explain certain parts of your career to your significant other in every one of them cuz in R&B there got to be it's really as I got older it got more difficult you know what I'm saying I would say that like my younger relationships were more about like time no time spent um both of us being weird in a relationship cheating doing weird [ __ ] like young [ __ ] you know what I'm saying but as I got older it was more about respect and it was more about let the world know that I'm her type of energy and why you got to follow why you got to follow 5,000 girls like you know what I'm saying white that type of [ __ ] that so social media play social media in some cases but it was really somewhere where I was lacking like okay maybe I wasn't saying the [ __ ] I used to say or spending the time or going on enough dates or just just things just acknowledgement issues right but really at the end of the day is just about communication bro that's what I all this [ __ ] bought down to communication even if trust is lost in certain situations communication and consistency can fix that [ __ ] in my opinion how old do you know yeah 37 I just 37 yeah yeah happy birthday happy appreciate you happy birthday to you Virgo Nation come on we got Mario Michael Jackson Kobe me you what I mean beon beon come on something light it's something like it's cool it's cool it's crazy it's crazy three [ __ ] on my team viros like it's it's yeah man viros I wouldn't trade for the world to be honest with you I don't think I could do this [ __ ] the way I do it if I wasn't a Virgo I ain't going to hold you we just work under pressure in a different way we actually no I know you probably hear that every day we actually work better man how you say they are exhausting yeah you viros are exhausting about your virgon yes it's Virgo season [ __ ] what you expect it could be January this Virgo season it don't matter what time of the year Virgo going to tell you whatever your sign is muted the [ __ ] up right now during Virgo season [ __ ] beyon performing highest gross andour ever yall know what time it is playing with us uh okay so for the people keeping up at home like give us a timeline was there was there a part where did you have label trouble at any point in your career I feel like after the Sha Garrett record M or somewhere around there m you got low it would actually be after that's another one that you just played somebody else that's after somebody else is when for me it was like okay I'm not getting the respect and the the the the not even support I couldn't lead my table the way I wanted to at that point I felt like okay there was a lot of decisions being made and ideas I was bringing to the table that were great ideas this record I Fought For This Record to be a single I fought for the N I made all that happen and I brought it to the table like look I got because one of the big things about being with a label from as a young artist is transitioning right trans transitioning from pocket to pocket album to album A lot of people don't make it in a way where it's like you're you're the people that are older than you that like your music and younger than you still grow with you and still be like all right I [ __ ] with this that's a really hard thing to do it's very hard until the point where it can get like H we don't believe it and so I fought really hard to allow my label at that time to give me the creative control to say like look I'm outside I'm on the road I'm on these tours I'm seeing what's happening I'm seeing how music is Shifting I'm I'm not the kid that you signed trust that I have a a enough to know to partnership with you in the way creatively to make this make sense when I first started it was about oh everything was clean everything you saw my my second album cover I had the suit on and [ __ ] but it was like this not the this is this is a a step a few steps away from the bottom more Mario that y'all met even as a young kid I was on a dirt bike on a [ __ ] train track on my first Z because I like dirt bikes I come from bom what I was around but then as time was going on was like oh they was trying to apish me too much and it got to a point where I'm like yo like this ain't even who I am no more so I had to I started having internal issues then with the label yeah and just and it was but at that point how many albums is left on the deal this is I had like three more left yeah I had three more left so and so but it was just like slowly butly I started to understand okay I got to start chipping away at this [ __ ] and starting to like I got to get some some people around me that's going to protect me in this space that's when I first started learning like okay this why Beyonce be having a dad and and people cuz you got to have protection you know um just so your voice can be heard in the way so you can just be creative and [ __ ] that's the best to me I think that's the best way to have it if you are having to fight your own fights and also be creative that's when it's not fun no more and it gets exhausting um so I would say that that project the the the that was on DNA which album was uh break up one I forgot but that album was the first one where I was like okay there was a little bit of creative control there you know um and me and my team at the time were just going out we were pretty much and on a project ourself do you find not to interrupt you but do you find that when there's those when you have those creative differences with the label and it's a record that you think one thing about and they think differently about yeah but y'all decide to go with your pick the artist pick do you find that some people at the label kind of wanted to fail for sure for sure and it's like it's not that's the rough spot who or what it's just it there's no reason we had so much support on that record right but it's out outside in the streets but it wasn't it was like it wasn't supported from the label you know and I'm not pointing no hands like I don't had conversations and got over sh I'm in a different space now but 1,000% true because and I feel like it happens that way because when you Empower artists that are actually smart and artists that are actually understand what's going on in learning and govern thems a certain way to where you know mentally they they probably going to be here for a while when you Empower that type of talent you kind of take the power out of your hands as a corporation yeah right because that's a whole energy that you can't really stop unless you kill it or [ __ ] dim the light and that's an energy they don't want to spread you understand and so I've always been that type of energy um even since a kid I've always been like a loner you know I never really follow other people I was always like it was always like yo if you don't do this these people ain't going to like you well [ __ ] it I I guess they not not going to like me I was always had that energy in me and that type of mentality can hurt you in this game you know what I mean can hurt you for if you don't have the willpower to [ __ ] go through the mud and and lift yourself back up and clean yourself off and get dressed again but what but what did that required what was the mud for you was it a depression was it let me get my business right was it all of it um it wasn't depressing just yet I I hadn't experienc I think experienced Depression more as a kid than I did like than I do now you know I think the stress that comes with the um say again why I'm going get to that I'm going ask this question then we can get to that but I think that it was more about I came in by myself in a sense that I didn't come in with family or so I had to understand who who is for me MH who's really who really as a kid you know what I'm saying and then as a young adult at this point now like okay I'm in my I'm in my 20s like all right this [ __ ] ain't just about having fun and and and moving around this [ __ ] is about sustainability it's about making art consistency business there a lot of things I had to like click real quick before it was too late and when I say too late to where though I started losing myself and then it's too late when you start doing that [ __ ] it's like people start see it's like you know so for me it was that that was the mud day the mud then was like okay who's who how do I navigate and you and you from Baltimore Street kid I know about your story um and so I don't trust nobody I'm antisocial parental situations cuz you you spoke about them in public before nobody was in real you get what I'm saying so I was figuring everything out by tring I was switching teams a lot it was just like it was at points [ __ ] was managing just to get the bags that was coming in but they weren really teaching me how the game work you feel me and so I had to learn all of that [ __ ] you know not good yeah but then you asked a question you no I mean like you were acknowledging that you felt depression as a kid and most people don't have the selfawareness to actually you know process something like that but like is was saying like you've been very vocal about absolutely your story absolutely um I think when you grow up in a city like Baltimore and a broken family but then a not so broken family CU you got your aunts your uncles and your cousin everybody living in one household but it was just like there was no um the only order and the only sense of honor and and understanding of life was my grandmother everybody else was kind of just like figuring it out you know she was really big mama she was really like okay we going to church on Wednesdays and Sunday whoever can fit in the car can go this Sunday if not we meet yall there like you know it was it was very um my great grandmother and my grandmother were like the the the roots of my family in the bottom of side then my great grandmother's sisters and that other side of family lived in Philly so that's kind of like how our family was um my mother mother she came in and out you know what I'm saying my dad was I didn't really see him till I got older but uh my grandmother pretty much was what I looked at as like superwoman what I looked at is like okay if she say it's right it's right I don't know what the [ __ ] y'all doing the adults everybody was figuring it out but she was the one um and I would say that the the depression part the depression part came from not understanding I felt like my intuition was more powerful than my emotional intelligence as a kid and so because my intuition was saying this isn't right and it's not supposed to be this way me trying to mentally figure out how to make it right made me depressed [ __ ] up circumvent and then when my grandmother passed away I was like oh [ __ ] times a million Superwoman's gone [ __ ] what what do we do now feel lost then you know what I'm saying and so yeah sh was CRA you said you said uh I got with my dad later that after your grandma past n this is like when I was around like 15 14 when we we we we met again and then we started chopping up we started getting closer like I would say like in my late 20s for real yeah so you didn't Harbor any ill will toward him for missing some of the earlier years it's it's not ill will it's more like um or have resentment rather nah n not really because I didn't I never had it so I didn't know what I was missing you know what I'm saying but it was more like when he started trying to get closer to me I was super closed off cuz I'm just like we don't even know each other like you you don't understand my life you know you know what I'm saying but it was at my mother's funeral is when I really felt like oh [ __ ] this why he's still here he was the only person who could understand my pain which was crazy to me it was crazy I don't if he wasn't there that day I ain't going to hold you like I would have had a mental breakdown because although I seen her on her death bed before I seen her you know on a on a ventilator like in a coma you know what I'm saying but like seeing her actually in the casket was different different it hit different you know and then like I was losing and he was the only person there that's was like you know just like damn like okay this is my dad and he here like he got got and he known her long understood her got [ __ ] in a different way because he knew her before she had her drug issues and so when we were standing there her cast he like son like you know we both you you you you know I loved your mother you know like and it it was just a moment we shared that I think it was just for me that was like all right bet like thank you God for him do you have kids nah not yet okay not yet you want kids sometimes sometimes honest answer are you in a relationship yes okay I just started dating again yeah you got to touch your nose [ __ ] I love I'm doing for myself I'm like you can say it bro okay you just started dating again was there conscious effort to not date or did did just kind of happen this way it's I was dating for a while and then I had some issues with my ex and then we broke up and then yeah somebody I knew for a long time came in my life and just started like making sense this way I'm amazed by you for you to say that you had like you came in the game by yourself different management different team you went from you trying to find your footing right you might be the cleanest image wise R&B dude that I could think of throughout the years you have you have escaped the any cheating scandals baby mama Scandal I if they was out there I didn't see them I missed them and I kind of keep up to date with some of that [ __ ] I have no baby mother scandals Scandal you could be [ __ ] somebody else baby mom or somebody could be cling that they pregnant by you yeah or girl go to your house and start instagramming your dog or your bathroom through mirror or anything to be jamming [ __ ] be jamming [ __ ] up yo you know you know what's crazy like I I I know this [ __ ] sound like like a a movie script right but I really govern my life in a militant way like it seems like it I had like it's just something that's in me like I always been like that you know so let's say okay I got a girl of the crib or I do some I have a wild night and I got five girls at the hotel if I'm single you know what I'm saying and I'm doing some [ __ ] the way that I move and the way that I am like nobody can do that you can't I won't even give you space to be able to play with me like that like I promise you and even girls I have dated or nobody's going to play with me you got the billberg bags for the phone when they come said you ran a five on one fast break huh said I missed that said we got five girls but if you had a five on one the door is open for some potential [ __ ] or you just don't let nobody life you picking like what kind of girls you I feel like a lot of times I feel like a lot of times artists like we have options to pick the type of energy we want to run true I'm like I'm an energy I'm like okay I read the energy that's what matter I don't give a [ __ ] if you fire I don't give a [ __ ] man told me you if the energy not right you're not coming in my space even if you with the shits you can still have good energy I hope whatever yeah I feel you that's not necessarily my type that I'm going be like but you can be around the I got homies and [ __ ] pass pass it along pass it that [ __ ] real bro you can't it don't lie and if it do lie if you pay attention long enough it'll tell on himself tell I said that's Virgo [ __ ] and Melissa start laughing at me and and spit on me yeah that's it Hey Joe honestly it's just a matter of like being intentional about everything you do and sometimes that [ __ ] don't mean fun you know what I'm saying that's the thing you got to kind of like sacrifice having fun sometimes and being just loose and like I don't give a [ __ ] to protect yourself the excessive lifestyle that you could lead that what you're discussing shows and it it shows a lot of restraint like a lot of restraint to be when you ever been around this many disciplined men honestly when you have when the last time you've been around this many men that show this type of restraint you don't even remember right let listen it's restraint in a specific type of way though you can have fun but you got to do it on your [ __ ] your way control your environment you got to control the envirment that's pretty much it bro and if you don't [ __ ] bound to happen if I have a 5 on1 I'm not [ __ ] all y'all I'm sorry I never I've never [ __ ] five girls in one night I will tell you that yeah that's a lot a lot I'm about to say you AR be five in one night is crazy that's a l i know homies that do and 5 in one night is [ __ ] five one night crazy give me the favorite give me what what was your favorite studio session of the songs that you've made man not the song not caring about how the song Turned out but just the session itself I got a couple I would say my some of my favorite sessions was with Harold Lily man I don't know if y'all know who Harold Lily is he's an incredible writer and he's probably written some of Y favorite songs but um he worked with me on my second and my first album and um he really taught me like the like what the artist and Creator relationship should be like what what what could Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson relationship could have been like it's like he's a poet bro like he's a real poet and to me I don't think I've ever worked with somebody like him before who has the humility and also the confidence to help you illustrate because sometimes writers can be too confident right and they come and you feel like yo you can't you don't even understand how to help me illustrate my show you just want to write because you think you may hit like but really sit down and understand the person you're working with right sea is a good a good one too Sean Garrett you know um but yeah Harold man he's just he's just a different type of writer I walked in the studio one day I was on a tour my hair was half out half in when I had braids coming to Studio I didn't want to work that day this one of the day I'm like six how old was I at the time I I was 15 I didn't want to work that day I come in a studio we had Qui studios in New York m come in he's like yo what's up man what's up so he always like to like inquire about what's going on he' come in and talk to you about the day and have a whole album for you later crazy incredible all right we talking about I'm like man I just want to go home the girl that usually break my hair in New York she not here my shy at home I need her to break my hair I miss I'm like I've been on the road he like yo chill chill it's all good so we start talking next thing I leave out for like an hour [ __ ] I come back and he got braid my hair half Rich he absolutely smoked that bro like I listen to I'm just like how you get everything that I [ __ ] said took and put it in a song bro but in a way that was like it was it was sexy enough for like older be oh this some play [ __ ] but it was it was it was it was PG enough innocent enough for me to perform it and for it to be believable and to me that's that's that's what an art a writer a prod like that's what great creatives are here to help us do you know what I'm saying cuz it's really for the people it's really it's really he's thinking about okay how do I connect this young kid to the world right um so there's not many people like him I learned so much about that from from him one of my other favorite sessions working with Polo on crying out for me working with Polo was crazy you know we worked in Atlanta and Polo like at the time he just had he had so much energy around him he was working on so much incredible music and to me he's one he's one of like he's asleep like he's one of the most eclectic producers that I've ever met in terms of his range um and so he helped me to like illustrate a part of of of my communication with my fans that I don't know that anybody else could have done at that time with a record like crying out because I told him specifically that I wanted to have something that was like not as polished as I was usually usually as I usually do and I feel like he came with just enough grit with that with that record and then Jasper came in with just enough um of like the '90s late '90s R&B [ __ ] to really help me do something that was more raw as opposed to like a hot breathe that's a little bit more polished you know it's just a different a different texture it took me it took me a while to come around to uh SE love why would you it was the Bop the Bop was slower it was some Su time I was outside with girl I'm like but this is such a slow Bop and the women I was late I I was no dead ass I was late I didn't at that time I didn't understand R&B over such a slow yeah Bop but all of the women in my life let me know yeah yo you wrong dog and then that [ __ ] start coming on in the club and then that part with a beat CH it's like okay I totally get this totally get this now shout out to Sean Garrett man big shout out to Sean Garrett Bang Dash man my [ __ ] um that record again going back down memory lane it's crazy as we talk about this music cuz I'm like every time that I've come out with a record that was big for me was a time where R&B was making some type of shift change change yes and I think that's what allowed me to have that portal to myself and be like okay like and still also be a part of my own personal growth to where it's okay every time it was it was evolving it's funny it's crazy it's crazy how R&B because it doesn't R&B has had we in R&B it's like it had such a run in the 90s in the early 2000s that it was like the run the run the run right that is like anybody who's like Champion for it or or has the the the vessel to to make R&B on that high level you kind of have to um you got to you got to be the sacrificial lamb in a sense cuz you're taking you're taking a risk to like introduce it to the masses in a different way while still trying to keep the essence of what it is and I think that's the difficult part but it's also the fun part and why working with people like sea and all these incredible you know creatives who think outside of the box you know we need them you know what I mean because for if it was up to me I'd be singing records that like I grew up listen to like stuff that got that Vibe the Joe's and the R Kelly and all the greats that we boic them in like I love that music still listen to that all the singing [ __ ] that come here will not relinquish that R Kelly name you can't bro you can't that's what they all say how can you really like talent wise how can you bro when it comes to R&B who would you say is is like as can sing bedroom records pop records scoring records [ __ ] Hood record and still keep it R&B well if somebody other great R&B people put a a few beds in the studio and lock the door 24 hours then I don't know what I don't know what they can make but cuz that's what the [ __ ] was doing crazy the people the people that that that talk about it they say they have a hard time hearing some of his songs after [ __ ] I understand I mean if you allow mind to go there for sure of course bro talent wise I think we all if I allowed my mind to go anyway it' be hard to live in America if I if I allow my mind to go there be hard to be here and be like we like [ __ ] when there's so much [ __ ] we ain't got to talk about it going on around us every day that's the the most evilest [ __ ] you ever you could even think of that's a fact you know and I think as a culture like we got to start really looking at [ __ ] for what it really is because a lot of people get torn torn down not to say the ones that do it don't deserve it I'm just saying in general we got to look at all of it soon because [ __ ] going to get real you know what I'm saying soon you know what I'm saying then we going to have to back to this mindset anyway anyway I get it I get it I understand what you think of that man any I like the fact that you got your feet out you got your dog walking around she over here landay like whose dog is it it's a studio dog sty it's her birthday she AO Studio dog this building doesn't allow pets this building doesn't allow animals dogs Li treachery will get you knowwhere there's dogs everywhere in this building anyways let me ask you this Who Do You Love right now the R&B the new class of R&B Who Do You Love right now there a there's a lot of people man I love anybody making music that makes me feel I love her her is her music just makes me feels what's not to love about her she's her she's amazing yeah she's said that her and I think it's time her if you listening it's time she's amazing that last album few years ago and um I I definitely think will will one day work and make one of the greatest song R&B Duets ever I like summer Walker I like uh lucky day um I like um I like what Eric Bellinger does in his space um there's a lot there's a there's a few in his space this I keep up huh what you mean in his space what you mean why you always looking for this [ __ ] [ __ ] stay looking for the mess I'm saying because B when he was just a writer okay you get what I'm saying and he was making incred some of the most incredible music and records that I would hear and be like [ __ ] I'm like okay I gotta sing that do the [ __ ] really can Y what y'all hearing from Eric if he really play out some of his [ __ ] oh no I'm very familiar but like some of the records that he wrote for other artists like yo he's crazy he's crazy no he was him and as friend of the show that's what I mean as a writer like like making M like it's a it's a different transition so I said in his space like from a right wrer space um who div uh no division is cool I like division say division say division division bro hold on I was talking about uh division fire I was talking about um Gian I like gon I like gon [ __ ] all the funny voice R&B [ __ ] now um I got to see if gibon could come up with some heat when if he not cheating on Justine Scott we got to see we never heard him we never heard him not cheat on her and come up with it's a few man it's a lot of it's a lot of it's a lot of people I'm not naming right now that's fire that's that's amazing but yeah what do you think as as a R&B veteran as somebody that's like done it you've you've done it what when you step in the studio today or when you go to bed at night what it it what is it that you think you need to work on as a R&B act my pen continuing to cuz continuing to to be a little more versatile in my writing ability um I love touring I'm on tour right now to me that's like shooting in a gym you know and just getting better and better at the business side of it and the creative side of it um tour is a great place to be faithful too it is it is a great place to be faithful and practice that you know as a man it's easy though for me but um of course for viros it's a Virgo thing you hate when I say some real sound like R&B [ __ ] smooth [ __ ] he ain't smooth he not smooth at all that's he's like the total opposite of that's that's soak up some game for these RV nigg crazy the [ __ ] that this what I learn about life is like the [ __ ] that sound like it's game but that's real [ __ ] like it really it like some of that [ __ ] really just real bro like if you just talk from your heart sometimes like I agree with that real like you feel me like talk from your heart talk from your talk from your heart your [ __ ] heart bro see when I get into that Virgo bag the fans don't believe me yeah wonder you phon I talk from my heart they think they think Satan is talking showed up in the flesh but I would say also I think I think one of the things I want to I want to work on this year is like finally like like really helping to put other people on you know um I've been focused so much on my I want to say comeback but my Evolution and my legacy that I haven't really reached my hands out and give other people chances yet one I think it's PS um what it PTSD from just and I know people say don't use that term but like I'm using it right now that's a bad term no but just like they say don't use it unless you really got it I understand because I don't want to [ __ ] anybody career up I don't want to be responsible for other people's rent or family like so I'm like until I get to a place where I understand where I [ __ ] them so I don't I want to be able to be like look these are the things you need to succeed from my experience this is what you need to already have this is and then this is what I can offer and this is what we're doing you know what I'm saying and I'm finally getting to a place where I feel like I can do that mentally and still run my own [ __ ] I was about to say but if if your intent yeah is there and you sincere and you're you know wanting to assist them even if y'all [ __ ] up along the lines you know that your intent was there you said [ __ ] was [ __ ] with you and they was just clearly getting the bag and didn't have your best in intentions yeah I think I think the intention then was for them to get the bag and help with it but they weren't necessarily good for me at the time or something but I think intent intent is great bro but if your intent is like let's say you like my intent is to be good to you but but you know you're not good for that person why would then then it's like why you [ __ ] up their life you know what I'm saying so for me it's like I've had people come up to me and I'll be like yo I can't help you but I know this person can and then they run off and get the bag together and you supposed to be 10% of that no not necessarily I mean I feel you the intent is there because I'm going tell you why I don't want to be attached to the person I'm sending you to gotcha not that they're bad people it's just not a part of my journey but I'm glad to job you feel me I don't need nobody yo all we need is us in a room and time to think that's it I keep telling you that for years sometimes you you just a vessel that God used to help somebody else bro you got to be okay with that bro that's real [ __ ] like you got to be every if you try to get paid off every single it's you're bound to go through stress and do and then you attach to things that may not even be for you like I'm cool I agree well part of your comeback came at the expense of a real good friend of mine man oh man got to I owe you an apology I want to apologize to his face too hey guys I owe an apology too I would like to play something for you a song no uhoh I I saved this specifically for you guys y ready no get the coure get the we no no no no cuz I want y to he kept the fouls I love you guys he kept the receipts on us not a receipt I just you could you can play your [ __ ] after um and then the last uh couple things I want to say um honestly thank you to the people who didn't believe in me um I mean like a month ago I won a 500 title and people said I would stop stop at that uh 2 weeks ago I won a th000 title and people were saying that was the biggest who was going to get um so three 3 weeks later I'm here with this trophy right now um [Applause] so you know congrat tried my best to carry this congratulations um what's her name again Coco Coco go I don't want to pronounce her name Coco go congratulations Coco that's for you Mama keep doing your [ __ ] we love you now hold up now like they be mad when these young people got some AR we got to try to defend ourselves you don't have to but I want to hear it anyway but you call no listen that's cool no he's right and he gets all the runway to do this [ __ ] too called my homie Joe called my homie A1 as soon as I got off the stage I don't know if A1 called you A1 called me he called you A1 called me A1 called him mind you I never seen the podcast that particular one that's what I'd be hoping for I never saw I be hoping they didn't see the [ __ ] I said so when Joe see we in there [ __ ] [ __ ] around he put Joe on the phone Joe like yo hey [ __ ] look I regret you I don't know if you said I regret what I said or you said some [ __ ] I said I'm sorry you said I'm sorry I was like [ __ ] for what I said I didn't even see I didn't even see I didn't even see it and you had this look on your face like [ __ ] I know you saw this [ __ ] I swear to God I never saw it so if y'all want to play the audio at some point I would love to see the a I think we got rid of the episode forever yes delet the damn not the fouls we did not keep the what did you say they thought that uh thank you I was foul no I was the real tell us what Happ they thought that uh I said you a have a chance Omar up they thought Omar was going to mop him up in the versus no no like mop mop like and it was a good with pine so and all that yeah yeah I was going to put the fabuloso on the stove smell a CRI and it was like leading up to their [ __ ] right you know what's crazy the crazy thing is I don't know like I believe in energy right so all of that energy just like y'all did that to him I was I wasn't here yet my I wasn't here yo y [ __ ] is f i see what you saying now y [ __ ] is y' did this [ __ ] y did that to him yo I didn't even know the spirits that was coming through me how can I try to defend myself and you know in hindsight it's good man in hindsight is one of my worst takes ever in hindsight I wasn't familiar with your game yeah I wasn't I was familiar with his game you you say that when you you know yeah my apologies I wasn't familiar with your game but now you talking about energy but you took that [ __ ] personal and you would you a have to sing that [ __ ] under the I think what happened was is this when he brought you came out on some cool [ __ ] like yo this my man is this what old BR produce yes he was on some [ __ ] like yo this my man right here and then om Marion was on some [ __ ] out of here [ __ ] and he was like that's what happened like he was like word cool let's dance now that is what happened's go I'm I'm going to say you like this I was prepared for either where it went oh you dble prepared for friendly or I was prepared for whatever like I told what you what's the when you told me early when I walked in you was like would you ask me what's off anything off limits you said what's off you said I said nothing's off limits I said I'm prepared for whatever we go and that's how I and so that's honestly that's what that's what it was I was prepared for whatever way it went but I will say that all everything y'all said all of that energy was coming through my DM all of it people was dming you with that [ __ ] see I tried to just say it on my platform I would bring it to your face individualizing I'm like yo this is crazy but you know I think that it's just raw man it's just that [ __ ] is just Mario big fan just reach out to say you're gonna get mopped like that's crazy n but he really extended his hand in the beginning like yo this one of the only dudes BL he like [ __ ] he like got I thought that om Marion with between B2K and his solo catalog how bro I keep asking I don't even get it I think that Rec is not it's like those records you can play uhhuh any of them records right now and then play just it's just a different texture it's a different conversation it's not relevant I didn't think about that I why you're a music guy why would you think about that I think because I was in because I was y shut the [ __ ] up because I didn't look at it like that and this is my fault because I was not there but I was had a record deal when B2K was ascending so I remember how I was there I mean it's part of my growing up I just remember the force that they hit the music business with and the respect everybody had for all of the records and when you was dead you don't really think about well how did these T songs age how do the kids now look at some of these records like and some of those records you can't play in front of some of your records you just can't I didn't think of that at all and so I always say man there's a difference between a Timeless record and a hit record bro and I think that that's what it show that was the problem that's that's one one thing the big on top of that is just the the biggest thing is I can sing better than you my like we don't got to dress it up I can sing better than you so when we cut these mics on we've seen better I'm you the [ __ ] up because I can sing better seen better sing and then you start doing crazy no we haven't yeah not really the better performer almost always the better performers have been winning these versus I can't think anyone that that didn't happen yo I can out sing you I said we I've seen the better singer lose but again I'm talking about two different verses I watched Neo get dog mopped around the around the studio when he went against jonte but that was that was a different vers that was a different I understand that yeah you got to approach every situation different man and why you ain't telling if you would have told me Yo Joe I'mma sing some of my [ __ ] and if you would have told me Joe while I'm he going to eat a watermelon with his brother n if I didn't know that anybody would have told me that he was going to eat a watermelon oh I would have been like yo yo yo yo if was doing a meeting about all this [ __ ] I've been like yo yo yo yo yo oh [ __ ] I don't think I was ever more uncomfortable in my life bro didn't you just come off tour with them it was like a year yeah yeah yeah yeah them ABS ain't going to cut it on the stage my [ __ ] so wait did something happen on the tour in where he received you like that when you dapped him up and then he was okay sorry I'm saying whatz I don't understand what she said you saying did and he was shady something happened on tour that led to that that led to that interaction N I thought I think he was just trying to be cool he said some slick [ __ ] too he was like yo you was the opener or some [ __ ] yeah bro I wasn't hearing him bro he tried to he he he had too much different [ __ ] he did he he tried to do some Jus [ __ ] and it did he got up yeah man I mean listen this is this is this is what I do I I don't I don't know what anybody else I just know what the [ __ ] I do and that night it was just it was you know and you know what else I forgot too like I didn't think about Baltimore when I was thinking about y'all that's important to me that matters W matter where was the versus at oh in La somewhere I'm just saying the spirit of remember I was talking about uh Bobby Brown versus Keith Sweat Right and I was like yo Keith is up here H it's going to be that Harlem energy I know Bobby got hits but that [ __ ] from Boston wherever the [ __ ] he from is going to be a different energy cuz it's same with Baltimore like had I remember C [ __ ] bottom social media like you don't really like versus give you a chance to really know see people in real time energy in real time like I don't do a lot of interviews cuz I don't really like interviews and all that [ __ ] but like versus just like it's just raw energy bro there no hot it could have been other [ __ ] like it it's going you going to see who somebody is now wrong wrong good man I'm just you're not going to be right in life every time exactly but the you taking it like a man right now and I'm sitting right here next to you like he like taking it like a man all right yo yo oh my bad I'm sorry yo square up tell me right because now like you've been dropping like slap after slap after slap kind of recently why you dropping all these slaps recently like what's going on man I'm just having fun with this [ __ ] again bro I'm just having fun man for real I'm having fun and I'm like testing on the waters I'm leading up to a project I'm working with a incredible creative right now on this next album and it's going to be like one of my best projects it's going to be incredible but I wanted I just I'm just warming it up I'm warming it up man we were talking about we had Tyrese come here right and Tyrese has had quite a month so I kind of just let him get his [ __ ] off but he started talking about how he's that [ __ ] I agree but he started talking about how R&B dudes just have what did he say what we we talking about um a music versus acting so he was like you know the acting check is way way bigger but the vaginal activity that comes with R&B is just a that's what he call he vaginal acity the vaginal activity that come along with being an R&B sigar is bigger than rappers it's bigger than actors it's bigger than everybody because I'm singing about sex I'm singing I'm putting the energy out there it's going to come back but you it the vaginal activity is about this [ __ ] it's about this and it's about positioning it's about proximity it's about so many things but I get it if you comparing it to like everybody cuz I I know a lot of people that sing that can't get no [ __ ] no I don't I know [ __ ] that yo I know yo dog I know [ __ ] got a few artists that struggle can sing and don't cuz I think we live in a different time now where it's like bro it's not it's it's like I know [ __ ] that work behind of seen they get more [ __ ] than oh yeah I get what you do H so wait so now you said that it's the talking right it's the talking that gets it done I partially agree with that course you agree with I don't agree with it from his standpoint I think that that just en I think that just enan like the general like what okay what's coming to the table I want to know if ever says I Choose You How Do I Breathe and they get up there and they start talking they don't have to have a personality to get no right right right I get what you saying okay you've never used real life [ __ ] like but now when you got a personality you can spit that [ __ ] that's just icing on the cake but it's not a necessity to have you know what I'm saying have you ever used your talent yes yes all right yes I have you Ain have to talk yeah but not even not before not even all right so I'm going give you a story hey yo I'm going tell a story so look this is a while ago while ago long time long time long time so I'm at a show I had a show or whatever so me and my man's we go back to the I'm like yo I'm taking it down [ __ ] y'all go do your [ __ ] I'll go back to the hotel I'm damn near asleep right this Shorty DMS me right and I'm like this random as [ __ ] so I open it up and she's like yo I'm in the same city what you doing wo I'm like yo I'm about to go to sleep but you know my massage therapist is cancelled I said some [ __ ] like that right Des oh you a Virgo all I said I'm about to go to sleep the side is just cancelled she's like no I said no before I said that I said cuz she called me twice in the DMs I said you called me twice it must be urgent she said hahaa I said she said you I say yo I'm I'm about to go to sleep my massage th she was like massage therapist this late I said yeah like what you think like I got a crazy schedule anyway long story short this girl was with the homie in his hotel room dming me you feel me and I didn't know and so I literally was like told her the room and I told her to pull up right and then literally 5 seconds she was there without it was like the [ __ ] happened so quick I thought she was capping but she was right there so I would say like [ __ ] like that it's like I get what you saying it's mind you he was working on it he been working on it the whole whole [ __ ] the whole I even know come on hey better luck next time champ learn how to sing [ __ ] learn how to sing [ __ ] learn how to sing he sniped it before you start that I was say point about this cuz this this is a real point so I think the biggest difference is though is like again it goes back to what we sell like R&B like we sell a certain type of energy that disarms women differently disarms disarms differently listen to the verbs yeah right on a subconscious level to a certain degree until thus the the artist and the woman is in the same place now if you [ __ ] that up that's on you cuz a lot of times Melissa correct correct me how many guys [ __ ] up with you just offer the [ __ ] they be talking about that you would have been like you know what you might have got a chance but you you [ __ ] it up talk your way out the [ __ ] I don't have enough fingers and toes you know what I'm saying I see it happen all the time I mean not all of them but some of them really walk their way right out the [ __ ] One That Got Away say so and like in hip-hop they sell lifestyle they sell neg so a girl already know what she getting right so it's a different me you you hear it you correct me from wrong it's a different thing it's a different lifestyle this my man right cool man [ __ ] smoth he's super cool super cool but how he talking and how Tyrese was talking is exactly why I was trying to [ __ ] R&B [ __ ] girls they they just don't give a [ __ ] about the rap [ __ ] they n that's not true I like I I'm not I'm I'm not trying to compete with cuz like for me it's like you're going to get a lot if you just trying to come and [ __ ] around like you might get a lot more out of that situation that you might need that month than you Canna get out of me fact [ __ ] might be like here here cuz he keeping up the lifestyle he like you can't I need you to believe what I'm talking my songs so I'm GNA do this cuz and you you don't need to do that believe to shake he don't spell he's a R&B off the trick I have to I will if I really like you but I don't have to where do you stand on tricking where do I stand on it hey yo talk some East Baltimore [ __ ] man yo can you stop pressuring people ass don't want to trick let him answer we all Trick thank you we are there we go there we go but there's a certain agreement wait wait there's a certain agreement wait [ __ ] we are tricking bro we not tricking we all are not we all tricking it's different levels though yeah your tricking level might be on a different level presol you know what I'm saying didn't never we are tricking you been preschool right we all are not tricking unless you not tricking unless you you [ __ ] a girl one night happen you never talk to her again in your life and you don't give her you don't do nothing for her but what is the definition of trick Define tricking cuz that cuz that's going to clear this up War not true cuz Okay tricking okay sorry tricking all right so you saying like tricking is like tricking is like that's a good question what tricking I don't use these but you can't say everybody I didn't ask that because I'm thinking you saying like basically spending money in exchange for something that is tricking that's tricking yes okay cuz some people try some people will try to argue your dinner that's tricking and it's not what is it what is it called what is it over time like going the dinner where's the dinner all right but what's the intention what's the intent behind the din where's the stop I was going out to dinner without you yo let me eat without you a woman let's just say you a month and a half in with a woman it's about how she values herself my [ __ ] some women don't have the same value of themselves a month and a half and you ain't pop yet n can you believe it to that I can't relate to that neither yeah I'm just saying you Pop Let's Take sex out of it bro cuz everybody so focused on the sex part like [ __ ] I'm giving you good dick you giving me good [ __ ] that's strange right there exctly but now value is different because a woman comes with more than just [ __ ] she comes with her energy she comes with her time she comes with so much more this is when these B [ __ ] start like I come with things too I come with energy too I value myself I'm an entrepreneur yeah yeah we don't want to hear none of that [ __ ] I'm just saying that and for the record I'm Pro tricking by the way yeah we we all should be Pro tricking my [ __ ] like but the thing about it is bro it's just a value and how much value you have and how much you really [ __ ] with that person it's like if I'm if I'm dealing with a woman and I really like her even if we not all the way locked in yet but she's giv me her time and her energy on a consistent basis as a man I'm 1,00% thinking like all right you know I need you to be comfortable when you're around me I need you to be your mind to be clear I need you know what I'm saying I need there to be some type of I like exclusivity n i that's just how I am me too I need exclusivity so I'm willing to make sure to do whatever I need to do to get that but I'm also not going to be a [ __ ] weird like like dumb [ __ ] I'm not just going to let her you feel me you like what does that mean Ain going to be like I'm just list what the price liit on the trck I'm just listening to him speak what's the price limit I don't want to cut them off what you mean if you spend $500 on a girl is that tricking if you spend $500 on a girl with expectations for sexual favors then that's trick he just changed he just he just changed he just changed made nasty Rel to that conversation I said you changed it and made it nasty and Goofy I'm not trying to call if I spend $500 on somebody because I like the person and I just want to do something nice for them no that's not tricking because I don't have an expectation but not having an expectation that's just saying always you what you just said there's no there's no difference between $5 and $500 if the intention is to get [ __ ] sex that's yeah I ask y question why do you want to [ __ ] let me ask you a question you you about to smoke on some Virgo [ __ ] your question why do you want to [ __ ] a girl that you wouldn't get money she just why you want F girl that don't want to naturally just [ __ ] you that's my thing I don't know why I can't answer that okay yeah that's that's my point so if a girl don't if I got to entice you financially to want to [ __ ] me back why do I want to [ __ ] you in the first place why do you keep adding that c don't matter he said yo why would you want to [ __ ] with a girl that don't want to [ __ ] you and I said I don't know I think that's the that's the real question that's the root of it that's the root of it but I don't think that the but you guys are putting the dollar amount on effort you know what I'm saying no no no no so hold wait wait wait no you let her talk the $500 the $500 isn't handing somebody five bills it is it it results in dinner it results in flowers it results in gas money it results in just effort know I'm saying think it's different for every person effort is different for every woman I could come pick you up we could go walking we could eat ice cream we could go bowling we could go play pool we could go do a bunch of [ __ ] I can take you I can take you to Museum that's me putting forth three or four hours of my day that's effort it's other things that eort that's not trick trick not tricking time is money you didn't spend no money at the [ __ ] Museum got to spend money in the museum you didn't spend D museum museum like but tricking okay but how's that tricking like having I want to be around you I want your energy around me yo dog you can come yeah if a girl comes over your house and y'all just chilling watching something and you order some food y'all don't [ __ ] that's tricking no you in my house I'm enjoying your company we both hungry and I order some food I'm not ordering the food with the intent on [ __ ] you oh God all right you keep adding intent cuz that's what makes it tricking that's what makes it tricken intent when we asked it was spending so now it's spending hoping to [ __ ] you're going to spend regardless stop my my question to you is this you [ __ ] already mhm now you tricking now you spend now you spending money you already [ __ ] it's not with the intention to [ __ ] that's not tricking Al so what do you call that crazy that's me I might buy you a gift cuz I like you I [ __ ] with you that's not tricking we all got girlfriends in this room that means right now you got a girlfriend you might have been with for 5 years if I go by my girlfriend a Rolex I'm tricking n no that's why I believe that's not I believe that we're all tricking [ __ ] like if if you're calling that tricking then every who takes care of his woman is a trick yeah it's not I don't put I don't I don't I don't put the intent on it cuz in that there's plenty of [ __ ] that's not tricking like you talking about some transactional escort I'm what's what's what's what's not tricking what's not tricking what is what is not tricking I I'm a trick so I don't know said was plenty not have [ __ ] you right let me ask you oh and by his definition not by Mine by his I used his definition well y''s definition uh total hey if somebody's just spending money on you without the expectation of [ __ ] there's plenty I think there's plenty of people doing that okay wait hold on cuz don't get me caught up in some [ __ ] cuz I I stand what but you saying that that is not tricking that's not tricking if there's no expectation right yeah that's about your definition yeah that's y'all's definition bro don't no no no no y keep saying that so I be I don't even use that trick I don't that don't apply I don't feel like I'm just saying that I knowb players right now that have a list of 10 girls that they paying the rent they might not even speak to them they not [ __ ] them but they on you on the list I'm paying the bills guess I know I didn't speak but when I come to town should I decide to come over there you clear your schedule and do whatever I'm asking that is required for you to do that's cuz she a real [ __ ] it's not because he's expecting something that there levels you're wrong you're wrong you're wrong came in here and told us that you wrong it's some [ __ ] that have it and they just doing it they just doing it he also said a bunch of other [ __ ] at the end of the day bro you just got to you got to [ __ ] marry who loves you when I say I don't mean physic I don't I don't feel like no no listen I don't feel like physically married like but I mean like if you [ __ ] with somebody want to do something for that person do it you could do it I agree you don't you don't do it but when it com when it comes to like us and how we're naturally going to do things if you good and you and you can afford to do it if you [ __ ] with somebody you going to do it let me ask you a question so now now now there the differ between platonic friends and this this is my question cuz [ __ ] to sound good to the public I'm not saying y'all doing this or is doing it but a [ __ ] would say right now to sound good and not look a certain way that I'm doing something for you without expectation but if you spending time and [ __ ] like that and you and you we both got expectations got expect we cannot I'm say don't want to [ __ ] we cannot remove the expectation I feel like removing the expectation part is a part of is a it's game cuz [ __ ] do have expectations of get even if it's not to [ __ ] but I I expect to see you next time I expect for you to have a good time for you to call me when you get home I expect for together exactly so we when we remove the word expectation is because that word has been overused so much and has a negative connot to it like oh you have expectations yeah I do I do I do I expect you to come see me later you know how many [ __ ] yo you work tomorrow yes how much you make to at your job tomorrow I will I'll cover the day talk about it I do that on I'll cover the day I'll do that on the regular that's my move too but when I say it but when I say it I'm not of the impression that when she calls out of her job and comes over we [ __ ] I'm not that do yo stay home you had a long week oh you just doing [ __ ] for gentlemen my girl though my girl yes you don't have to go to work tonight and don't use your time every situation different man it's like you know you got you got no you got to find your pocket bro cuz you can do that for the wrong person and be in some [ __ ] I was just talking to like my shy about that [ __ ] like that [ __ ] happened to so many homies I know that's like damn you did what for what and what happened like you know wasting your time spending your money on somebody that don't really value you I think it goes both ways a woman has to value a man too it's not just the other way around you know what I'm saying there both ways that's true yeah so everybody got to respect and on each other time and energy like we all giving that [ __ ] we selling energy every day you selling energy right now so it's like [ __ ] this is will you stand on marriage um if it works for you and it's something that you feel like would mean that you have successfully Found Love and and you're successfully committed in love great I feel like for me marriage first starts with years of coagulating our lives in multiple different forms and languages first before we can even get to a marriage conversation um but I do believe in it to a certain degree um but I'm also like I don't need it like I could be with my woman for 80 years and not be married yeah to me the reason why I don't have kids is because once I put a child in a woman we're married we're stuck we're like even let's just say it wouldn't work out which it will because I speak that on my life we're technically biologically married we're married I agree with that I know it sounds crazy but we're married it doesn't that's s crazy at all that's the truth that's hilarious to me if I put a baby in you that means I literally have not put a baby in any woman that I dealt with before you and you're the one that I'm choosing you're choosing me we married that's to me that's the first then we can get engaged and do whatever after that if we decide to but so with those beliefs you've been taking like all the preventative measures to not have kids right like condom and [ __ ] of course of course yeah well not in relationships in relationships has just been my the pull out game crazy and then it's like you know she was on the pill sometimes and sometimes she wasn't got it yeah just careful got it got it got it careful all right got to write that one down I got to write that one it's doable um your dog is I mean I'm not tripping she loves me she she loves me soon as I walked in here she came in my lap Virgo listen two viros wow she will not she's kind of like obsessed look at her yo imania Virgo that's true and he sing was that a thing you like is Daisy Train to do that what she she's over here going she uses the dog to Target men yeah Daisy yeah Daisy Daisy stop she don't even know the dog here here Daisy get your do come here like he's fresh as could be your dog sheding on in the company you get up and get your animal you know what I mean oh [ __ ] here you go nobody's partner here to get going crazy over here I got pits I got I got two pits back yeah back home yeah I got two kids I'm a dog guy too but my dogs died in 2018 so now I just keep like this wall up to like not love yeah yeah it's it's tough I lost one of my pits in a [ __ ] um heat he had a heat stroke bro it was so hot in La one day and I he was in the backyard yeah crazy I I lost my stepdog like that my cousin's dog died in a heat stroke some to South Carolina damn like I I've had some it's over my my dog 10 years over salute to the dog owners out there and the dog all the dogs all the dog god I was saying I was telling uh I was telling Mario off mic that I kind of wish I was able to and I sound like a dick R but I don't care [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] that I wish I was able to speak to him after Puff's album came out yeah because as a R&B album you I heard now I heard some of it man it's fire it's fire as an R&B project he just miss he missing me man he missing one of the young goats on there as as I was listening to you talk the whole time I was saying yo that's a mistake that is a mate Mario should be on we got time we got time no that's true he'll he'll double back but that project is is absolutely crazy and we bumped in each other and [ __ ] catch Ste in my spot last night oh oh God I'm like this [ __ ] Jo right there as we trying to set up the interview that was hilarious that's my spot in there my little low spot that that was good how's your time been in New York do you [ __ ] with New York I do [ __ ] with New York man I lived here I lived in Jersey for like four years so I always I learned how to drive in New York I learn I learned how to drive in New York in tet BR County so I learned how to drive in New York man I had a lot of Vibes out here I did a lot of of my first in New York my [ __ ] like a lot of my first clubs was in New York my first Dominic well I can't say that cuz Baltimore tunnel all of that [ __ ] Dominic My First Girlfriend Was Dominican and Puerto Rican like yeah do sticky we shot How Do I Breathe Here in New York mm she made you lose your breath with you where did you have your first fight my first my third fight was actually here in in New York well not I was in Jersey first fight would have had to be both first fight was back home Baltimore this in in the city you know Baltimore has a really special place and my heart his heart too I don't know if he could share but yeah just hitting that road on the late night taking a drive to see something nice up there 3 hours three and hour trip yeah quick 3 hours she think it's too far for you to get there but you you there yo you right there what it's bad enough don't that Reasonable Doubt Reasonable Doubt get you down the turnpike oh God when I got my first car used to drive from Jersey to Baltimore all the time I see my shorty down there like twice a week my [ __ ] once you drive it once or twice [ __ ] it's easy wear and tear in your car but it's easy here's a stupid question pause but do you have a skin regimen bro that's a whole other conversation but n like I just bro I just um I do a lot of just like like wizard [ __ ] man I ain't going to lie to you man I do a lot of just talk to him about it Melissa tell them tell I know I want what you know you know it's CRA regimen what's his we know some of the I'm throw my drink on in two seconds in two seconds I'mma throw my drink on N like um I think what I do most of the time bro is really focus on like my body and like like listening to what I've been a Mystic for 12 almost 13 years right and so I studied everything from the Physical Realm the spiritual Realm biospirit things my mother was a practicing chemist so she was always into that type of stuff so I think I just got like that from her so really [ __ ] it's just I don't overdo anything and sometimes I like fasting all of that [ __ ] it's nothing specific that I put on my skin bro see that's the other thing right I'm going say this disciplined enough to fast fasting this bit at the time of the verses right don't beat me up at the time of the versus right like I was expecting you to come out like down bad a little bit and they came out nice little long black jacket that jacket was fire all right y [ __ ] pring on my whole down the find my brother was praying on my like an idiot like an ID bro yo and this is what made it worse I didn't catch the beginning of verses cuz I was headed home so my phone was just on fire like yo this [ __ ] singing this [ __ ] off the stage he looking good song four [ __ ] by the time I got home that battle was over go home yo that battle it was over made tell us what we said [ __ ] was depleted yeah bro I think I think overindulgence in anything like a lot of times I'm like all right [ __ ] I know what I have to do cuz I'm up against something different like when you've been in game so long you up against everything you up [ __ ] waiting to say something about you you know what I'm saying so I'm I do it for myself but I also do it because I am the brand I'm selling I am the person that's on stage I got to take care of my voice I got even party like I be wanting to sometimes like I got to get up and sing tomorrow [ __ ] I can't stay up till 7:00 a.m. every morning and rage even though my spirit my heart be wanting to just turn it up yeah I just you know I just I respect the I respect the job that needs to be done bro and that's pretty much drink once in the blue but not really I just stopped like four months ago so I just like I might I I was drinking wine last night in the TU his skin don't look so drunk-ish I was drinking club last when that [ __ ] walked in catch let me tell you something I was in there with problem late night like 11:00 reservation so we expect to just be in there on the L man when this [ __ ] walked in there with these [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] is this [ __ ] looking good don't come don't and it sat right at the table next to me don't do that and catch Ste don't look good right next to me while I'm bummed out in case something nice come in here that [ __ ] was shining Boy earlier you were speaking about Legacy yeah man right and there's a really good there's a really good clip one day I'm going start the podcast with it about Legacy and uh not dopesick painkillers is that the name of it the Sackler [ __ ] where he he was explaining to a kid Legacy and he went into the guy that came up with the Nobel Peace Prize and that's how he explained Legacy he smoked that I think beginning of episode four where he was like Hey the guy that came up with that invented dynamite has the Nobel Peace Prize because of Legacy when he saw his name in the paper when it was a fake death and it was just crazy but what does legacy mean to you and what would you like it to be when it's said and done it's a great question Legacy um first and foremost I think Legacy is a responsibility right I think it's a responsibility to recognize when you're in a position to be able to leave a legacy because not everybody is in a position to be able to leave a legacy in in terms of like you know the masses or like what we do right some people their legacy is their family and like you know just their their their space their 360 that they control their wife their kids their family you know their off I think that when you're an artist like your legacy is like it's like you're competing with your old music you're competing with you're you're constantly competing and continue to grow and to leave a footprint of greatness as you continue to evolve um so my legacy I would say man I want to be known for defeating the eyes man and making some of the greatest music in R&B in my in my time frame of living um and I still feel like I'm I'm like I haven't even hit like the the the the peak of what my greatness is and what you guys will hear from me in the future and that that feel to me that's that's I'm humbled by that because it's like not only can I support everything I've done already but I can take I go to another level and lift that up even more just by you know what I'm saying just on a bigger stage you know performing those in a different way um new citizen right new citizen is is my imprint I started about 12 years ago and when I created new citizen the what it what it represents is becoming a new citizen of your own personal Universe because I believe every person has their own energetic Universe around them that it's up to you to govern As you move into this thing we call life right so my legacy includes being a teacher being a student being a talent being an artist um and in my through my creative Journey bringing all of that together in one place you know if I could which I I was talking to um James font La about this the other day my bro we we're working on incredible music together right now you got something with James yeah yeah we're working on a project together right now we're working on some [ __ ] I'm excited about it and energized about it but if I could take everything that I know and understand about life that makes me who I am and put it in a creative form and use when I do actually and use my platform to continue to create on that level and and bring those nuances through the music ultimately my legacy is going to be left to help people evolve in their own lives like that's what music should feel like the undertones of it should have things that you may not understand but when you feel it it it does something to positively charge the the parts of you that will further your mindset or further your intentions in life you know even if it's it could be a sexy song but the undertones could have some something so much deeper in it that maybe you may not understand as a listener but you feel it and so for me Legacy is just continuing The Human Experience man and creating things that help people evolve to be honest with you because everything that I look at when I look at my past or like where I grew up I'm like the the the the threat and the and the problem through everything that I saw was no one un having self-awareness and awareness of their environment awareness how their environment affect them so if I could add value to that concept self awareness and education not just in school but like personal education and like helping people to evolve mentally through the music that to me would would be the Legacy I want to leave ultimately but getting there is like you know you know working through the perception that people have of you and then taking these leaps and steps through through the musical Journey but that involves creating like putting people around me to understand that which is why me and James got together as well well let me just tell you man do you U for me you are halfway there in terms of with your timeless music I want to thank you because it does something for me that the R&B acts that I love and appreciate no matter what they go through in this business they continue to push through and produce at a high quality it's rare So when I see it I like to applaud it and I just want to I want to thank you hey man thank you I appreciate you bro for real man I don't feel like anything we go through like we I feel like the more pressure and and and the and the harder things get for you in life sometimes if you already have the talent if you already have the access and if you already have the will you have it's your it's your job to use that energy and transmute that [ __ ] in a way where you come out on top you know what I'm saying and and and it's up to us to learn how to do that cuz it's going to make the art better it's going to make everything better it's going to make everything that more intense and and and and have more gravity to it and more meat to it and more just like meaning you know cuz that's what the [ __ ] life is bro it's just this [ __ ] ain't easy for none of us you play m music during sex yeah of course I going say of course but yes I do sometimes I don't if I want to just just hear us sometimes I want to cut it off and just hear her hear her voice talk [ __ ] cuz that to me like that is music the sex is the music yeah this [ __ ] [ __ ] man yeah we got to get him out of here I'm just saying get I was I asked I was like is there ever is there ever a time where you play your own music I mean it's a real question I don't I don't I don't purposely play my music sometimes I pay playlist Alexa play something I could bust her ass to hey hey Alexa play something I can get my [ __ ] off in real quick about me boy JY oh man she uh boy man I did not think would say that I only asked him that cuz I thought he wouldn't say that no he he offish he one of them he one of them yeah yeah I the harmonies man and the fact that I don't know if I ever heard of JC Christmas song have the writing yo the writing is different too harmonies bro the weight is I don't know they yo chill out bro what's wrong with you yo you can't Christmas you can't hear Jon Christmas s outside that's and here's another thing that that boy to men got over J to see this is my uh LeBron Kobe what they have over Mike hey w kids all four them little B harmonizing singing away yeah man they was they they they different bro yeah no I like I like see I mean like when it comes to making bedroom music ah they both though but see I feel like the the girl you play jodessy with is different it's not the girl play boys see I never really [ __ ] with the Boys to Men girls me Nei JY chick that's like wifey you know what I'm saying why don't we go I never was [ __ ] up well one time I did yeah one time wifey [ __ ] JY take my M Take It Off full [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah man uh I don't have any more questions for Mario I'm happy he was able to take time out of his busy day and schedule to come [ __ ] with us uh do y'all have any final questions for for Mario no no no great y yeah M you got anything no you know no Mel we had I really want no no no cuz I feel like every time I'm around like doing an interview is mostly meant like I feel like like I want you to ask questions that may be like from a female cuz listen I got 80% female audience come on so a big platform y'all doing your thing I need you to talk some [ __ ] man what you got real quick before I get up what I will have to go through after you talking to you talking talk give her some grace and mercy absolutely she got it got it for me look look look look please no I mean listen yeah what's up you is is there anything it could be it could be anything what is okay let me ask you a question okay what is okay you are you single yes okay so what is something or a question that you dated guys in the industry before right once or twice Okay cool so what what is something that if I if you were sitting across from like a guy you did and you just saw like what is something that you would ask him to understand it from a male's perspective great that is a great question cuz there's a lot of women now cuz there's a lot more T like people popular that are dating popular people and vice versa so they could use your or my advice or your advice that's a fact okay so tell me the question one more time wait huh the question no no go ahead please one more time the question is oh is there y stop yo go ahead yo this is how I this this like all the time the question the question is is there is there something that you you would ask a guy that you dated in the industry before that you didn't understand then like just to understand from a male perspective I'm just trying to give you a stting place there's a lot of women that probably date dudes that are popular more so now than you know what I'm saying well we talk about that a lot on here and um you know me now versus me years ago me I have different expectations now I have a different understanding I think that a lot of we talk about a lot of time where like these young girls get into relationship oh good example is summer Walker dating young meech and we had this whole discussion as to whether or not there was this expectation as to whether she should expect him to be faithful do you think that me of status can be faithful do I look like a faithful man if you had to guess would you do you look okay okay I know if you had to guess if you had to guess do you think that I you think that I have like do you think that I'm faithful I can't answer that question just because you you've already answered the questions take that leave me alone answer the question answer the question do you look like You' be do you look like you'd be faithful okay fine no thank you no not necessarily not necessarily is that because you assume that because I have a like why why would you assume that because because of the um option access that you have to options you know like the saying goes men are only as faithful as their options so when you add money good looks Fame notoriety shut the [ __ ] up how you ask your question all of the above then yes you would assume that you have it's like shooting fish in a barrel you got your pick of the litter so you know what I'm saying like wom do you really have the expectation that men are going to be honorable and say Hey listen I'm you're you're one of many yeah do not can I can okay can I ask you so let's say like like a girl I'm dating right she say your you guys are you know your friend she's younger or whatever and you have have more experience you would tell her listen I don't think he's a faithful man no I wouldn't tell her anything what would you tell her I would tell her she ask your honest opinion she a girl I would tell her to use her own her intuition and discernment as the so you don't be like does he make you happy like that's the you wouldn't so you don't feel like a guy even if I wasn't a faithful man that I could change for the right woman I smoking her Bo no no I'm no I'm asking her hey your M that's you he making a pancak y'all got to chill bro y' got to chill y' you mute up okay this is a real conversation that I think cuz a lot of we are speaking in hypotheticals here these are massive hype that that that guys can't be like that music can't be faithful and I I disagree I know I really disagree with that I don't think that any that every woman should have the assumption that no man can be faithful I think I think that there are a lot of men out there that actually prefer to be faithful God yes they they find a woman and wait wait what you did not say wait hold on stop stop what you did not say that the other day man what is going on the [ __ ] where are we you did not say that the other day hey man Su I bring I bring the best out of people man the best out of what the [ __ ] is going on yeah I was she is never never met nobody like her I she flipped on us she flipped on us yeah that's crazy so she flipped on us when we asked no I did not no I did not no I did not I'm going to get some sing lessons I'm being there woooo me first of all first of all we were talking about a specific type of man okay that was the type of man that we were talking about where is there the expectation of him being faithful I'm talking about regular ass [ __ ] that's what I'm talking about he didn't ask you about nobody regular he asked you about again about we speaking in hypotheticals and we were speaking in Broad Strokes very generally here just speaking on what you've experienced basically in a sense cuz you had to get that that that from some type of exp listen I have dated the gamut of guys I've dated guys that there is no way in [ __ ] I would ever expect them to be faithful it's not even a part of the conversation because I know what's up and I know what I'm getting into and then there's other ones where it's just like your ass cheats on me you're a [ __ ] idiot you know what I'm saying like so it's just there's a it's it's a it's a broad spectrum you know yeah yeah no so does that change like when you go into does that change cuz I always wonder this about so when a woman goes into a situation where she already thinks a man is not going to be faithful how does that change the your level of one commitment and submissiveness to him and two how does it change how you feel about yourself I feel like in that particular circumstance it depends on the on on the energy exchange between the two of you because listen you can you can literally know that you are about to get involved with an ain't [ __ ] [ __ ] you know it but you can't also stop the attraction that you have to him you know what I'm saying and if you want to go down that rabbit hole well you got no one to blame but yourself for whatever the outcome is but you might just be doing it just to have fun for the moment feel something for the moment sometimes maybe you meet the an [ __ ] [ __ ] and you haven't had you had a dry spell for a couple of years and you just want to feel something cuz you don't even think you have the ability to feel anymore that's crazy so you go with the an [ __ ] [ __ ] for the little [ __ ] sh be more fun than the [ __ ] it might be a I don't think settling is the right word right here you know what I'm saying because you're not necessarily thinking that this is going to be some long-term [ __ ] accepting what it is I think think men have a hard time accepting the fact that and you me if I'm wrong but I think it's true sometimes women just want to [ __ ] have fun too a th% sometimes y'all just want to let Balls Hang invisible nuts my God are you are you able to [ __ ] have fun I'm asking a question that's a dig no it was I wasn't trying to do cuz I know you don't think I'm fun but I'm fun he saying are you able to speak to it he's saying are you able to just [ __ ] with a dude and have fun in that yes of course without catching many times happens though is women present this um this facade that nobody I'm not just out here [ __ ] casually you get what I'm saying because y'all get judged so harshly that y'all always act like I'm just out here looking for a relationship or I'm not having meaningless sex a lot of women act like I'm not having meaningless sex and mad women out here having it cuz I they had it with me I defin I definitely think that times are Chang meaningless sex you [ __ ] right oh you mean you've been used as a mattress before no we've engaged each other in a situation where it wasn't going to be serious we just enjoyed being around each other I was as I was asking for we just enjoyed each other's company we it wasn't going to be serious we was just casually [ __ ] with each other but to me that's not meaningless that's enjoying somebody's company so there's meaning that but when I say you're right I'm agreeing with you I'm using a term that they throw around like I just don't have meaningless sex I'm not having casual sexual casual could be meaningful too C I'm saying casual and meaningless are two very different terms so we can I ask you a question yes does your puss he understands the difference I'm just or any woman I'm just asking does does the does the Yanni understand Bri here right the difference Y what you said the Yanni yeah what the [ __ ] is that for the girls who like that word and like it's called y Yi and Yanni yes um Yoni is box does she understand you want to use that from now on hold on y'all get let her yeah let her cook does she does your Yanni understand the difference yes completely and totally we have we talk to each other yes absolutely So energetically and I've never asked a woman this question before but I I feel comfortable asking you because about this [ __ ] so the difference between casual and intentional right when it just comes to so so which one would you say this is which so immature man right right [ __ ] though keep going what cuz I think I want to so which one would you say is is is is more fun I guess you could say fulfilling or fun yeah which one is more fun or which for you I feel hey man I feel like it I feel like it's a very individual thing I feel like it the [ __ ] you're in my camera dude thank you these questions always wanted to ask her and on the wait what hey man this is a general question for for she fact but a Virgo could get the answers out different well different answers I'm a plant hey man answer the man answer now she answered I feel like I feel like it's it's up it's it's a very individualistic thing as to where you are in life and sometime let's just say for example you're a woman who just got out of a long-term relationship and it was it was a lot and you're not looking for anything serious you just want somebody to have fun with but you don't necessarily want to care too much you know what I mean and you really don't care if they care that much about you you just want to share time with each other [ __ ] occasionally have a good meal watch a movie every once in a while but don't want to be responsible for each other you know understand so that's just one experience then sometimes people are looking for like some people are looking for like serious I want to put a petition in to become a Virgo to the Zodiac side Sal I want to put a petition in I don't want to be a Leo no more I want to be AO off of this question two questions two-part question on a scale of 1 to 10 how submissive would you say you are right this second that's question number one good question Joe at in at this very moment in time like on this couch current you not in this room with us current you how what level of submissive would you say you are now if I was in a relationship not just no just period your just where you are right now in life in life if I was in a relationship I felt safe no what you're not in a relationship you're not in a relationship well who am I being submissive to [ __ ] that's Bing your ass wait so you should only be submissive in a relationship well you know I'm not [ __ ] so you know what I'm saying like so what the [ __ ] I don't know what your pussy's doing that's not my business I mean I mean you're Yan you guys know you guys know I'm like I'm kind of celibate so you don't feel like so you don't feel like not kind of I am so you have to be in a relationship with a title to be submissive to a man there's no man to be sub you want me to be submissive with Daisy what the [ __ ] there's no one to be submissive with but if you were just [ __ ] someone you could be submissive with that person yeah I mean to a certain extent would he want me to be submissive that's weird yes he would if he B yes why would you want why would you want a woman why would why would you want a woman to be that's weird why would you want a woman to be submissive to you that like what level of sub are we just talking about sexually submissive or submissive in every way questions can you you know that there's different level you know there different levels you get the high we get I would say before we get into this I'm let me give you your flowers it's a it's a room full of mene here and you been holding it down let me give you your flowers app invisible flowers know I'm say you they don't die baby they don't die thank you I apprciate they don't die that nigga's good I'm my second question even though you didn't really answer the first the second question what what qualities with the man that you're not in a relationship you're not in a relationship with him what qualities would he need to possess in order to get you to be more submissive than you used to on your again I would just have to feel safe all right yo that's it you want you didn't want the deli answer you wanted the [ __ ] IHOP answer you know what's crazy that that answer is underrated Dojo thank you thank you under true the answer is underrated bro it's true I want I I what woman doesn't want to feel safe and secure and it's not just like that you're going to pick up a fact of what woman wouldn't be submissive around a man that makes her feel safe and secure I don't know I can't speak to that woman because if you give me Safety and Security I'm a [ __ ] kitten so then you would be submissive to the guy that you're not in a relationship with that's what he was asking well yeah I mean I guess but that's weird well is it weird because of the title there's no title man is I mean no I listen I'm about to go to the studio [ __ ] about to go me too got a lot of content right now no good for sure for sure for sure I'm just saying there's there's levels to relationships to where your expectation level is you know it's met in different ways like you know what I'm saying like the deeper that you are in a relationship the more there's expectation of that Safety and Security you guys want to feel safe you don't shke me as a type that's very submissive in a relationship and I and I and I I you're eating chicken in the kitchen and you know and you know what I receive both of those responses because I know why you would think I wouldn't be but you're absolutely right I am completely submissive I am a kitten when I feel safe but you guys also want to feel safe you guys want to feel like you can be vulnerable to your woman you want to be able to feel like you can trust her like you said word safety feeling safe in a relationship is underrated but applies to both of us not just women I 1,000% agree with and so submissiveness for a woman equals do you have you really got me you know what I mean understanding so thank you sorry it was a deli answer but no no no no I get thank you thank you come on man I took that as do you really got me and do you really get me too both you know what I'm saying got know you got me you got me this probably been one of the funnest podcasts i' I've been on baby I just don't get it you enjoy oh my god do you get me I [ __ ] with it mar Mario you you are welcome to this part any anytime you in town man [Applause] [Music] please and when Mario leaves with his team everybody stay see getting got everybody stay we going to get do a little more talk Mel do you have any final questions Mora no you've been fantastic anytime you want to come back up appreciate you appreciate y real [ __ ] clap it up for Mar holy [ __ ] that was excellent hello [Music] I never factored all of this I I clearly thought I factored everything in when hiring a woman there's some stuff that I did for got one right I left a few boxes yeah unchecked Mel is one of the most mysterious women woman I've ever met now I'll tell you why either she she is Dr Jackal and Mrs Hyde or like she's just a person who knows how to compress who she really is because holy moly we've had this conversation that this man have had I mean of course the way we came about it might have been different our verbiage and our answers were totally different so what does it come down to does it come down to stat we can't sing [ __ ] you can't trust these video vition n you can't trust them hip hop [ __ ] Ain't put them on the plaque oh my God [ __ ] they couldn't be trusted that's why is you can't say that you would you like to respond to what brother flip is saying keep it real with me m come on we your brothers now we your Bros we stayed later just so we could get this answer he going left they all left all them [ __ ] the [ __ ] before all [ __ ] oh man You Feel the Love Tonight PR Rock yeah where Jeffrey osbor all these on the wings of I don't know maybe you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar Mel can you give us a real answer I think that's don't you try it n don't you try it with us don't get all poetical don't get all poetical on us do that Langston Hugh [ __ ] with him but just keep it real me just say What's the difference we Bros yo talk to us and Layman talk to us yeah um first of all I don't think that he's going to be like shut the [ __ ] up and get the [ __ ] out of here after I answer a question um true or get up and walk away from me I don't know like I don't know I don't know I feel no I feel like he you felt safe V DAV from fences she cried for real that was mad I oh sh that's smell DAV look crazy she cried for it you so V the part he cried outside holy snap done can you answer I though what it's a fact you ask you a real question what do I did he make me feel safe yeah I don't know it's just I don't know I'm just saying he made you feel safe and comfortable you were more willing to submit to answer his question but how about this to me it didn't sound like it was the same questions I if you don't maybe the wording was so different it do sound like the same questions do you feel like because he's he's in the industry and you're familiar with artists and comfortability with certain artists do you feel like that you were speaking to him more on of a mental level because of the industry that you both are in I mean you want to be acknowledged for the in Hip Hop an R&B no come on don't do that come on no Joe I'm she going to get her mad she going to flip on me man no I'm not going to flip on you no I just um do you feel like you guys bonded mentally you ain't going to like the answer that I have right now oh great great give it to us please don't tell me give it to us I think he has a higher level of emotional intelligence than you guys I'm not mad I'm not mad guys that's that's just and and it's no shade I'm not like shooting at any of you I just sat here he's more evolved what's that more evolved I mean I didn't want I'm not gonna use that word all you had to do and I'm not even using that word right now I'm just using like EQ I just think he has abute the EQ I know the EQ when you Ed you got EQ you you put the it's the it's the yellow oh it's the yellow the blue red and the EQ equalizer right he the red but when you tools you know so you were able to Pi you wait hold up hold up follow question mhm so you're able to pick that up off cuz I mean energy is strong energy is strong M you're able to pick that up off spending like an hour with someone I listened to everything that he had to say I listen to everything he had to say I took into account interviews that he's done before I've took taken into account the the life experiences that he's had the loss of his mom and stuff like that the fact he sat there and just said he was a Mystic um it ju to me I I took all of that into account I'm like he's got a high level of emotional intelligence you were impressed you were impressed by he's an impressive young man respect and I like when you be honest like this yeah so what guest have we had don't even do the [ __ ] that that's a trick question you say no I said something yes please come on just he said what guess you had and I said that wasn't an impressive young man there's no way I'm answering that question what guest have we had we Haven really had a lot what guess we had that we have a higher level of emotional anything to do any trying to think of who we've had here I can name them name somebody Vince Simba what she say he's he's naming them and I'm just like M they have more uh emotional IQ than us like Simba and Vince I mean Simba I would say just seems like he's has more access to his like sensitive side salute you know um V I hear you is a [ __ ] Savage I can hear you [ __ ] you're not quiet okay that's it I'm out of the hot seat I'm done all all right done give it up for Mel's Hot Seat the hot seat with Melissa for silent clap that [ __ ] went that oh you just clapped on my man no that's i' been holding just bald his hey leave my man alone yall leave my brother alone Arthur F not even remotely close holy [ __ ] oh all right man ho [ __ ] it's been fun oh man okay were we signing off no oh we're just going to sit here are you ready to go now cuz he the guest left no work over now he left over no anyway these migrants wait hold on I have something to say to you oh [ __ ] off I you know I was in here you know issu was outside you guys were having your secret meeting Parks was outside and I was outside yeah I just want to make sure you guys had you had you had a secret meeting you know um cuz apparently with my for I'm going leave that part but I was talking to my fellow co-host and I said you know are you guys ice huh ice and Mel ice and Mel yes okay I said do you guys plan on doing the patreon I said I you plan on doing a 30-day patreon he said yes I said Mel you plan on doing it she said yes now she said M and she said yes I said I'm going bust this [ __ ] in the head let me go outside and talk to him I said he said he going to let us do it for an hour but usually when he say that he just trying to entice [ __ ] and he going to change it so I went out there to confirm that you know the 30-day patreon that you plan on releasing every day in December you know some of us signed on to do it so well thank you I appreciate your eagerness and your willingness to participate and that so I mean if we get around to it if we bro the idea again then cool but once people wasn't that excited about I got who's going to be excited about that who's going to be excited about that you leave [ __ ] so open-ended no details or nothing say yo Eric camera on their faces hey yo I play JS Danny just the part just the part right here hey load load it up load it up all right I really don't have anything else to talk about it's cool man this was great great J really really really really good day man clap it up for [Applause] us yes take us out of it ain't going to be too many more [ __ ] to come in here and you telling me that these [ __ ] is emotionally whatever the [ __ ] she like I don't think she realized that should be a little smack little smack I literally said is a smack in the face every time but use a shot it is a shot and I know that you're probably not aware or you don't mean it to be a shot but or maybe I'm just a sensitive ass [ __ ] I think that I think that's it so I am emotionally intelligent sensitivity doesn't necessarily mean that Dam oh so what means that emotional intelligence yeah emotional intelligence is basically being able to like process really complex emotions and having like an I guess like for lack of a better word and accurate response to it damn I feel like there's more to the description right now but I'm just trying to like give like an IHOP answer so what's Mario's response to these complex emotional situations oh my God it was it I'm I'm basing my answer just strictly off of Just perception wait we out Jo Jo button no jo [Music] button

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Published: Wed Dec 13 2023