Pastor Pleads With Satanist Communist

where's the honor of loving this brother come on man do the right thing hey the guy that cares about you is the guy that's going to try to come between you don't touch me he didn't touch you don't touch me he didn't touch you yes he did he did oh are you uh are you saying the other humans shouldn't be able to do things to your body without your permission is that what you're saying is that what you're standing on humans shouldn't be able to touch you without your permission what are you doing here what are you doing here you don't want people to touch you without permission think about a contradiction in that think about how the contradiction in that are people not allowed to touch your body apart from your position apart from your permission or maybe [Music] do you see the contradiction there the contradiction she doesn't want people to touch her body without for her permission what about the babies inside what about those babies can you answer that she doesn't want people to touch her without her permission is that a rule for humans is that no one can do things to my body apart from my my permission is that a rule how about those babies in there got babies how about those babies in there how about those human beings in there they are human from fertilization do you love science do you love logic from the moment of conception the very moment of fertilization they are fully human from that very moment that's a fact that's a biological fact not just a Biblical fact it's a biological fact human from fertilization oh what kind of scientist you try to look at any how about you go to uh Princeton how about you go to Princeton look up them on biology of humans from fertilization it's the moment of fertilization I didn't say that you're lying I know you don't care about lying and murder but that's a lie just look it up just Google just Google that so what we were saying was she doesn't want people to touch her without her permission yeah you think you're reasoning right now in a coherent way you're not your life is filled with evil with Darkness with murder you're not logical I know I know and you Revel in your sin but there will be a day of judgment where you're going to face God for your sin so again you're human from fertilization you're human from fertilization that's a fact so you believe that we shouldn't be able to do things to another human's body apart from their permission you already granted that if we're human from fertilization then we shouldn't be able to murder these children correct [Music] there's no answer coming yeah you're not going to get anywhere there's no answer coming there's no answer coming what's that is John in hospice so you love Satanism and communism yeah Jurassic World makes sense would have guessed that before I met you what's that your worldview is not coherent even to care about insults your worldview is not coherent enough to even care about insults as a Satanist how do you defend anything at all as right or wrong the far ahead have you you just worshiped the devil I'm just not listening yeah no you don't have a coherent worldview you can't reason your way out of a paper bag so tell us about the virtues tell us about the virtues of murdering children and children tell them I can't reason your worldview is broken your worldview is bankrupt and so is your moral system [Music] you women will face judgment you will face God for what you've done today and every day outside of this abortion Mill ion he's he's going to answer you for every child you've murdered and he'll name their names because he knows their names every one of them they all have names just like you and God will stand for your murder of these fatherless children these unprotected children he's going to stand for all of them against you you'll answer for it and Satan won't help you I can't wait to go to hell yeah well hell isn't what you think it is hell is outer Darkness it is eternal torment the devil doesn't rule there Jesus Reigns even over hell and you'll face God there'll be no parties in Hell there's no celebrations in hell it's just you gnashing your teeth for all eternity for your sin you're a masochist that's obvious that's obvious you know that's not true you're not peachy you're not fine you know you know you're not fine you know that at night when you're alone you think about your situation before God you know where you're at I feel fulfilled yeah no that's not true no person living outside of God in a relationship with him can be fulfilled Because You're Made In His Image to know him you were made like me like us to know God and to enjoy him forever that's what you were made for now you never were a Christian you never really were that's not that's not your body language your Twitchy you're nervous she was you know you guys are legitimately filled with demons you know that you know that right yeah you you are not operating by yourself right now you are literally influenced by demons it's probably already true about you and I I hope that that doesn't remain true I I I I love you I care for you don't you are in the image of God you're in the image of God you are you're not an accident you're not a cosmic accident you're not the result of random evolutionary processes you have value and you have meaning you have purpose You're Made In God's image it's the truth whether you like it or not and you said a moment ago you felt great do you feel great as a cosmic accident yeah I do actually you do so if you're a cosmic accident there are no rules then are are there Dr Cortana right what do you mean by rules well if you're a cosmic accident and there is no God and you're not in His image then you don't have any value purpose dignity nothing and there are no rules there's nothing that we ought to do like right now you're standing for women you think right but if you're a cosmic accident that's a meaningless thing because we're all accidents there's no meaning there's no purpose do you see how what you're doing doesn't make any sense if you're an accident then there are accidents there's no purpose or meaning and nothing is right or wrong so even you're standing out here for these women you think you're doing that you're not doing anything Noble in your worldview nothing is noble right now do you see what I'm saying but if you're made in the image of God you have value and purpose and so do all those women in there if you want the value you think you're giving to these women you have to turn away from your sin to Christ but that's just the point you see is that nothing matters do you see because you turned away from Christ nothing matters you just admitted to that nothing matters there's no meaning there's no purpose there's no good or evil see your worldview can't even account for what you're doing right now to pretend to stand for these women what you're just so good you seem like a very nice young man honestly you do but your world view is completely broken it can't even account for what you're trying to do right now because if you're a cosmic accident then so were they and that means that what you're doing right now is a waste of time because they don't have any value they're Cosmic accidents and so are you do you see when you turn away from Christ there's no meaning there's no purpose there's no right or wrong but you do have value you do have meaning you word me you word made me the purpose see that that just goes to show when I said over there a moment ago you're not happy you're not you're not well you just admitted that you don't have any meaning so okay you think you have to have some like great greater purpose I don't I'm just living my life and vibing living your life but you're an accident so look so if you're a cosmic accident my name is Jeff by the way what's your name Simon Simon Simon if you're a cosmic accident so was this okay and you and I would be no more meaningful or purposed or anything than this grass and that's your world view yeah he does I respect the Earth so Simon what are you doing so but why respect it it's an accident what am I doing Simon I said I respect that Simon no no Simon Simon I respect the Earth Simon I respect the Earth because it was created by God and is a special Creation in your world view there's no reason to respect the Earth or over an asteroid it's just a cosmic accident and so are you Simon you see you can't live that way you don't live that way I am do you do you love her does she have meaning and purpose yeah not according to your worldview she's an accident and so were you she's just a bag of of protoplasm and so are you accidents according to our parents oh no according to God according to God you have meaning and purpose you see you said you don't but here you look how complicated this is Simon you think you're an accident but inside there your stand you think you're standing for women and their rights and what's good for them but but all of that doesn't make any sense because there are accidents and so were you because God because God you see how Simon you don't have an answer actually I read it twice Simon you don't have an answer though it's not but Simon you don't have an answer it's really nice but you don't have you don't have an I should not have been allowed to read that at nine there was some and they're actually let me let me tell you why it's the greatest story because God became a man to save sinners like you and me we're like these two dogs isn't that amazing how the Bible doesn't whitewash evil and by the way what's wrong with uh two daughters having sex with their father according to your worldview see in the Christian worldview in the Christian worldview that's wrong what what happened what happened with lot and his daughters was wrong but nothing is wrong with that in your world view we're accidents Simon Simon we're accidents and you don't have an answer do you know what's right and you don't have an answer lot sleeping with his daughters is sinful according to the Bible but not according to your system Satanism and satanisms don't harm others who cares about harming others who cares about harming others who cares about harming others we're accidents Simon you said so you don't have any meaning do you see how you can't even hold to that consistently Simon you're living in a world a bundle of contradictions [Music] no human being outside of Christ can be fulfilling their purpose [Music] I'm not scared of every little thing humans need to be safe why would humans need to be kept safe yeah why would humans need to be kept Safe in His lie in your heart it's why you hate it you don't know Simon Simon you know you're broken now you know you need Christ Simon you know that your world is collapsed your world is your world is collapsed think about everything we've talked about so far you can't justify anything you're doing okay you're living in contradiction you know your life is broken I'm the one here telling you that you have value and meaning and purpose but you've adopted a position that says that your Cosmic scum that you're an accident that's your Simon you are more valuable than that you are made in God's image no there is a God who loves Sinners so much that he enters into this world to save him from their sin you've adopted Darkness do you see how the heart is so hard it's really not that you're willing to just admit to the fact that you're living in darkness I'm really not okay so when I'm talking to you I'm saying you are valuable I care for you you have purpose but you're saying about yourself because if you're turning away from Christ that you are not valuable that you have no purpose that you're living in darkness Simon you need to turn away from that to Christ now do you just want to live in darkness okay there's going to be a day of judgment Simon where you face God who made you with a purpose and you'll see how truly meaningful you are then and how truly meaningful your decisions were your entire life and how truly meaningful this moment is where you're guiding women in to murder their children all right Simon I'm passionately committed to you knowing that you are valuable you are not an accident you don't want to hear it you just want to live in that meaninglessness you want to live in that Darkness I love you Simon I want you to turn from sin to Christ to experience forgiveness and peace and life see your heart's been hardened sin sin will do that Simon when you pursue it long enough when you and I pursue sin long enough Simon we get hard it might be a clump of cells yeah our hearts get hard I get real hard from saying your mind gets hard to say about that something I care about you I do we're here because we love you and love them I know we're on opposite sides Simon I know we're on opposite sides of this but that doesn't mean I don't care about you and you need to know the story of the Gospel is that God loves sinners like me and like you we both love Darkness outside of Jesus me too we both love Darkness outside of Jesus it's not just your problem what's that what do you think we we filmed this for a number of reasons for obviously our safety we've had people like you pull guns on us before I'm not saying I'm not saying you would I'm saying it's happened to us before it's okay now I'm not forgive me I didn't mean not to say I'm blaming you or I'm accusing you I mean we've had it happen before we've had we've had people attack us so we do we do it for safety but we also record it and we do put it up on our on our YouTube channel so you we can have people see that we can have genuinely good interactions together and talk and I also want people to see what's going on out here Simon you said you were you were a Christian right you're raised in a Christian home right we're here in Florida uh Alabama Alabama what kind of church was it uh Southern Baptist Southern Baptist okay how old are you now 22 22 okay so it's clear obviously that you never really knew Christ but but can can you just I'm just trying to talk to you as a friend here right now can you just tell me why you've chosen the path that you're on the path of meaninglessness accident destruction Darkness I mean we can't really make excuses for our sin but I'm saying like what was the turning point for you oh Christians are the worst people ever but remember this Simon there's no there's no such thing as a worse person well let me say cool because I'm gay there's nothing there's nothing cruel Simon do you see if you gave up Jesus you gave up any ability to say something is cruel or bad like you and I look okay I'm a pastor and honestly some of the worst people I've ever interacted with in my life are professing Christians but why do I get to say that Simon because I have a standard of God and his character by which to measure these terrible Christians I'll be honest with you there are some people who profess faith in Christ I would much rather you and I hang out have have lunch together hang out just have a good time together then hang out with them professing Christians but why do I get to indict them because I have the word of God and God's own character to measure when you abandon Christ you gave up the ability to call them cruel I know a lot of cruel Christians I do some foul Christians some of the people have hurt me worse in my life are Christians yeah but why do I get to why do I get to condemn them because I have a foundation by which it makes sense to condemn them you gave it all up well think about it's not just a book right it's it's a revelation it's a question of how do we get here who are we also all the Christians I knew Justified their cruelty Through the Bible yeah people do that people people take the Bible out of context to abuse other people I know gay I know gay theologians that do that too they take the Bible out of context and they abuse the text too it's not just Christians who abuse the Bible it's also like gay theologians that abuse the Bible right anybody can go to the Bible and take it out of context and make it say whatever they want right but like for example like you said you're homosexual right so I'm probably guilty of far more sexual sin than you are you're 22 I'm 45. I've lived a longer life and I probably have you beat sexually I promise you that okay good to know by the time I was 16 I lost count as of how many girls I slept with I lived a life of drug addiction for a long period of time did some foul foul horrible things I'm not standing over you in judgment we both need forgiveness for our sexual sin okay but I want you to think think about something why would you and I be able to call anything sexually wrong how would you call anything sexually wrong you've turned away from Jesus so how is anything sexually wrong I say as long as long as you're not hurting anybody else you know because that is important part of that issue okay you're telling if you're too consenting adults you're not hurting anyone but why is that a standard Simon it says who what about the guy that's a cosmic accident that doesn't agree with you he rapes a woman or he rapes a man right he abuses a lacking consent and it's harming something but who says that matters again satanists we're accidents we're accidents though we're Cosmic Satanist accidents okay you don't need the Bible to be like okay some of these things hurt people so we shouldn't do you need God empathy you need God as the Creator and a Creator creation distinction you need a world that was created with purpose and meaning and human beings that are in the image of God to make any sense of the claims you're making Simon if if you're an accident and I'm an accident why does it matter if I abuse somebody because you're harming something so I have empathy so you see my answer how easy that is to ruin so I don't know the Bible to tell me not to hurt you know there are men who rape other men I am and they don't and they don't care about their permission because there are people and what's your complaint with them and what's your complaint with them if a man rapes another man why are you complaining about it so I didn't need a book their Cosmic accidents it's not just that it's a book it's a revelation it's God speaking saying I created you with a purpose and with meaning you're the creature you're in my image you can't not love another human being not loving another human being is sinful uh give me an example like the basis love knows no harm to its neighbor that's what God says God is love love does no harm to its neighbor I have a justification to condemn the man who rapes the boy I can condemn him because I have a I have God's word in Revelation that says he's not an accident and we are commanded not to do harm to our neighbor in your world view it's just a preference some people don't agree some guys rape little boys and they get away with it and they like it they enjoy it and your feelings about it don't really matter it's meaningless remember that Simon it's all meaningless we're all accidents not just a book and by the way when you who is the Satanist you follow you said his name you said a version of Satanism because there's numerous versions of Satanism so what was the version you said you follow satanic temple stay tuned Temple atheist version of this did you so do you read like Anton's spander Levi's Titanic floor yeah okay did you so you said like uh dude I don't really follow it I mean I've read it so like the the do as thou wilt that kind of stuff do you follow that yeah I basically follow you know do as you want as long as younger mothers but the you said you don't need a book to tell you that but the Satanic Bible tells you that yeah but I believe that before I got to the satanic but when you get stuff from the Satanic Temple do you get it in writing at any point do they ever write articles do they ever write like what we believe occasionally yeah do you believe those things yeah so so you you believe you can get truth from a book or literature okay so the Bible is God his Revelation see I'm showing you that you actually do believe that somebody can hand you something that is true Revelation either as a Satanist or whatever so you you don't actually believe the the criticism that you made to me like I don't need a book to tell me it's not just a book it's it's God who walked Among Us it's God who talked to us and revealed himself to us to come to a place see what I'm saying and I'm not saying that to make you feel bad or to make you feel small I'm just saying Simon I care about you you've got to see that this is broken man you can't level like this Simon and you know you know that you're not happy it is hot isn't it you were from Alabama so you're kind of used to this yeah I've lived here for a while yeah when'd you move here three years ago from what part of Alabama I was just in Alabama a couple months ago next to Dothan Miller nowhere so like up north Alabama I was in uh where was I Birmingham yeah recently how far away are you from Birmingham okay so why'd you come here to in Orlando okay what are you studying I get it especially if you're in a small town yeah I'm a city person myself I could I couldn't live like that yeah well listen um I know this is an intense thing and we're on totally opposite sides here but I do want you to know that I I genuinely care about you and I just want you to think about what I said to you you don't have to even think about it in terms of a debate just think about what I said to you in terms of living every day like you're in God's image because you do you CA you care for others I know you do you care for others I'm sure you're a loving and sweet person you care about other human beings suffering and all the rest but you'll live every day like you are in God's image but then at every Point you'll rebel against that with what you say about God and ultimately what you do like and I want to affirm just think about this for a second this is a big one I said it to you and I meant it I truly mean this some of the coolest people I've ever met in my life are professing Christians but the only reason I get to call them cruel is because I have a standard by which to measure their cruelty you've experienced that cruelty too but you can't complain about it because you've turned away from Jesus if you turn to him it's not just forgiveness Simon there's also a meaningful way to complain about evil in the world okay just think about it I'm not trying to win the debate with you just think about it okay yeah I'm not uh that's okay no no you don't have to be you know I'm not asking you to be can I shake your hand it's okay it's nice to meet you nice to meet you too please see how you're acting like protecting other humans is important you see the complication it's like little moments like this I want you to think about if you would Simon is that you're not living consistently with your world view it doesn't work because you're not just rat scum or whatever no no no no no whatever your name is rat crap whatever whatever the name is on your Instagram or something right but that's but you're not that oh no I just called light up because he started calling that and I thought it was really funny because I have a big rat tattoo with it oh I see yeah um and I thought it was hilarious but look look you're trying to protect other people why why Simon why yes so what there's there's scum they're accidents

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Length: 27min 5sec (1625 seconds)

Published: Fri Sep 08 2023