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not to throw us too off topic on that thought because it's a bit more to do with the kind of change and Halo is a series something that I've definitely noticed especially since 343 has taken over is like kind of turning like as though Master Chief is like a superhero who did it all by himself um as as though there wasn't like a massive amount of uh people and and um and like aspects of the military that were supporting him and that were there with him the whole time like the idea they forget about all those Marines on the G cannon in the back seat Well it's just um do you guys remember the opening cut scene for Halo 5 do do you guys remember like what that cut scene was is that the one where they they surf down a mountain and shoot at Prometheans oh yeah yes it's the basically the long and short that oneus that were the main characters of Halo 5 um basically they jump out of a pelican and just like fly into this war zone and just blow past a whole bunch of Covenant and Prometheans fighting each other like pretty effortlessly like superheroes flying around with their jetpacks and everything and from an animation perspective it's a really cool cut scene but like I think that's really bad um in terms of in terms of like reflecting the the change in like what's happened with uh Spartans um that it used to be that yes master chief was the most powerful person in like any given situation but that it was a massive military effort a big effort involving Marines and involving ODSTs and command uh combined arms Warfare and everything like that to this place now where it's like well Master Chief he's like the one guy the superhero who will like solve all of the problems and that you can kind of see it reflected here that like you said Rags it you don't get the impression that like the military component of the story is particularly prominent even though so much of the story is focused on the human conflict and like the UNC and Oni and all of the infighting there and yet it really doesn't feel like much of a military story at all and I think a big part of it might just be that it's it's difficult to see the military component in like the battle situations it's just John Halo blasting through everything single-handedly for the most part um they it's in between the the occasional intermittent terrible fight sequence you never get that scene where like here's the here all the the commanders and the cosos and the people in charge and the higher ranking people and they in the forward operating base or on their ship and they're looking at this big tactical display of what's happening in the battle they're communicating with this person who tells a soldiers to do this this this person tells this ship to do that you got no sense of tactics or strategy happening so there's no if you go into this show thinking it'll be like the games are books and there's going to be this um like this war component to it that's interesting and tactical and strategic you're just going to be super disappointed because the people who made this don't have any interest in that or don't know anything about it or it's just it's not the story they want to tell or have any interest in telling I would of an issue if you're adapting a Halo I would say that you would also struggle to really care about what's going on in the storyline if you haven't read the books though and that's what makes it a bit of a paradox to watch is who is this show for yeah totally agree with that like the the idea that the show is made for people who don't watch Halo if if you didn't know anything about Halo you would be lost the most basic the most basic of things of like why is the Covenant even at war with Humanity you would be absolutely lost on those Basics that is something became pretty obvious for me was that there's so many moments of just like oh I was supposed to know what that is wasn't I like from something else there is a um there is a nonzero amount of people in the world who will watch this show and for whatever reason the show will make them want to play the games and then they'll kind of exper expence it in reverse order most people play the games and then watch the show but there are some people who watch the show and then play the games and I can't help but think what a bizarre experience that is going to be for them to go from the show to the games and see like oh this is completely different in basically every way I remember uh distinct memory of him raging with the Iron Man perspective um oh in episode five uh in episode five they have a big battle and John Halo jumps on a banshee and flies it directly into a phantom and it explodes with him at the epicenter and he's fine uh and he just walks out C covered in a covenant blood and he starts punching the mandibles off of an elite and he's screaming with the Iron Man POV and it doesn't even make sense because when they cut to what's actually happening his head is like moving so if he was looking at the elite his like eyes would have to keep moving but because they don't care he's just staring Straight Ahead screaming which is one of many of um my cuz that's the thing I remember most from season one is John Halo screaming my favorite one is when he screams what am I after touching the Keystone I love it it's you know their attitude right having emotion having a person's face doing emotion that that's that's art that that's storytelling and you're like am I or he lunges at at Holly in an attempt to beat her to death cuz he's so mad and then he can get in line if he wants to punch her to death okay he's just he's he's such an unhinged like that to me sticks out as the most you gonna say loser or lunatic I it was like I'm indecisive I think he started with the you started with loot and then you just quit and I was like which one was it gonna be I think that's the main Legacy of season one is the absolute destruction of Master Chief to the point that he is John Halo or Jimmy rings or Master Chiefs Jimmy rings I do like Jimmy rings it's a fun name but that's fun John Halo encapsulates it excellently as part of the like The Meta meme of this is John the person this is person from game this is game person yes this is him you recognize him right and it's just like this horrible fact simile just like these bits of his armor clinging together with like bits of Flash in a SK like a big skull at the top um but I mean it's you think about like what what you see in season one in terms of the creation of a central character is that they basically like created somebody who is impossible to predict to where the writers can make him do whatever they need him to do to create drama um he's unhinged he's insane he doesn't know what his emotions are he's discovering him for the first time and that's making him crazy so therefore when he makes a bunch of insane irrational decisions that allow the plot to move forward you can't complain because that's just who he is a lunatic and for people such useful archetype uh throughout the first season Chief is touching the artifact and it's unearthing memories of him getting kidnapped by Hy Hy as a kid and being put through the Spartan program and and basically tortured through the process and he's like I get that he's mad about that but like I still don't think Chief like character from the games even going through that experience would like go totally unhinged like that and try to punch Hy or you know stomp that alien's face like it just it felt way too jarring it made me kind of not like him like yeah it's just too extreme a bit of a a bit of a problem that the show has and it by the way I I would say like who the Spartans are particularly with their emotion suppressing pellets it's interesting because you've got the scene playing right now MOA has been like massively fringy you can't just say that and not explain to the people what you mean by emotional suppressing so basically the in the you say it so matter of factly the Spartans have emotion it's not that the Spartans are naturally stoic as a result of essentially years of training and conditioning um it's not that their past experience have actually turned them into who they are it's that they have a pellet in their spine uh that suppresses their memories and makes them robots except it kind of doesn't because um not only is there a lot of like uh confusing elements in season 1 that make it very unclear like what exactly does a spot look like without their pill cuz they certainly show emotions in season one but like in season two you've got this scene where they introduce a new Spartan scene we never seen before called Cobalt who are aggressive confrontational jealous um snarky um like they have a whole bunch of traits but they are um essentially chastising silver team which is the main team of SPS that includes John Halo because they have feelings now cuz they removed their pellets it's very very very confusing and it helps the writers is because it makes it even harder to pin down who exactly John Halo is in season 1 and continuing into season 2 and really all of the spots it creates it um a confusing aspect of like who are they actually and what are they actually believe in and it was on the point that you were talking about John in terms of the nature of like this aspect of his history being something that's upsetting to him something that in season one they don't really want to deal with at all and it feels like it's part of the reason why the Covenant um storyline is in the background so frequently is that you have to pair how he feeling about all of that with who he is now and the unique position he's in to fighting the human Covenant War um but it's not something that they pair together to explore which is really stupid because it's just good drama that's interesting like somebody who's had a difficult a really terrible thing happened to them the consequence of which has now made them a uniquely capable person uh to save humanity and how does that make them feel and and how much are they willing to set aside as part of that uh broader conflict but instead they're just like don't want to deal with that I by the way as you know to almost like try and tie off the relevant things from season 1 Quan was a major part of season 1 guys do you remember she was like The prominent character of the first episode she had a whole was all her own uh episode seven was a qu episode in closing on what you were just saying by the way was just trying to remember the quote uh you know few tra the um it's like being a robot is great but we don't have emotions and that makes me sad sad that would summarize their approach with the uh spot definitely definitely I would also just like to add regarding the pellets that the removal of them was the dumbest [ __ ] like cuz they are performing self surgery on themselves with a knife at the base of their spines they're being told what to do yeah Master Chief was told what to do verbally by Cortana in his head and then he performed the surgery that he could not see on his spine and pulled the pet out well also standing up in front of a bathroom mirror naked and the instruction that Cortana was giving wasn't even that specific she was just saying like 10 cm or something but it's like which direction you haven't you haven't told them decision does it horizontal or vertical he's got a blade in his spine you got to tell him exactly what to do otherwise like you risk paralysis I think the funniest part of that scene is that John Halo was seriously going to try and do it himself before she told him how to do it he was actually holding KNE his back with no idea where exactly it was cuz he was actually going to give it a shot without a help yeah it's that kind of you know take charge attitude that I that I really like about John Halo he's just going for it you can't be indecisive you can't have analysis paralysis you have to perform surgery and then have actual paralysis yeah you can't let someone stop you with rules about stabbing yourself in the spine that red tape are you a man or a mous look at how I I really don't like that his visor is shattered that feels like a huge problem cring you got to show it show the visor that's it's so cringe cuz like it's like how's how's he going to get back off the ring without his helmet being airtight but then you know next season they're going to pull something out of their ass where it's just like point a little laser beam at the helmet and then boom it's fixed it'll be Nanobots or something Nanobots how are we going to see his face isun like yeah keeping his h on the whole season you like really they have that Anakin face of like I why didn't they just make the visor capable of becoming more translucent like the ODST visors yeah like you it can become a bit more trans you can like press a button or a function and it just sort of it it unold deifies it would be too expensive to make that prop this image man it's so gross it's like they've shoved an impostor in there you know like they've jammed him in there and look at him staring through corpse that he's how dare you sit where he didn't sit you guys remember the brilliant line that he said in this scene the wonderful line you got to play it Molly you got to play it for everybody to see I'm talking about when he says I am Halo or I am all the Covenant no John you are the flood they took my image and bent it to their own purposes damn yeah I did share that on Twitter out loud it's too good not everybody uses Twitter you got show everybody here very poetic all right video sa people that's how you start your video I mean it's it's just funny how he says that and it's like yeah that's the show and you know Master Chief famously cared about his image he was an Instagram influencer as a type of character yeah he was really you know clued to the propaganda and the posters and stuff you know oh my God yeah look at that I actually have to pee well um it's almost an indictment of the games itself because he's basically saying that like the master chief of the games is the image that he doesn't like right that's that's not the real John 117 I'm the real John Halo well it is weird right it's almost like they're trying to create like a a new story line that plants and I got to say it's really awkward to think about you think about a lot of the things that uh 343 was saying about like must Chief and Halo 4 and like the way that they talk about the character in this show the spon it's a little uncanny it's a little bit weird it's it's almost like um this is the way that they would have wanted it to be from the very beginning but unfortunately Halo already exists and has a story line in characters that is difficult to get away from but if you could recreate it in an alternate timeline then you can create it where it's like ah yeah we're exploring who's the man behind the mask and you know he's he's discovering his humanity and all that [ __ ] that they were talking about in Halo 4 I I think the writers really engaged with the Child Soldier plotline of the books and they kind of wanted to explore that but they also knew that they had to include a bunch of references to things from the games well it's it's something we've talked about is that they knew to have banshees well it's funny that this season it feels like there was actually a lot less of just that recognizable iconography even though this was meant to be the pivot towards being more faithful but they knew to have like they knew to have the Spartans in armor that generally looks pretty good they knew to have like the props for the like assault rifle and the battle rifle and like the gravity hammer and they knew to have Elites and Grunts and Jackal and banshees and and warthogs and stuff they knew to have all of those things because it's good for marketing you can put that in the trailer and people will be excited and happy to see that but I mean at the end of the day it's all to um essentially cover for like the story that they actually want to tell oh talk about it's all meaningless fluff if the story isn't working and the characters aren't interesting like it's watching like somebody play with your action figures and they like just a really perverted idea of the story that you've been telling with them and they're getting the names wrong it's like they're playing with Transformers but they're using like GI Joe names or something it's like that's not it that's this is J this is Jan 118 this is my action figure you're like reenacting the throne room scene and they have Palpatine pick up Vader and toss him down the hole and you're like what why did you do they're like Yay [Laughter] palpa hello you just listened to a segment of the podcast every frame of pause or EAP hosted by YouTubers mer rags and fringy and joined by a cycling variety of guests across the internet they critically analyze media with exhaustive detail while 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Length: 17min 29sec (1049 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 28 2024