Pacific Rim: The Best, Dumbest Movie - Movies with Mikey

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OMG, so they built bots in full engineering "theoretical" design... so all we have to do is get these drawings and we can make our own Jaegers!

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/ZandorFelok 📅︎︎ Aug 01 2019 🗫︎ replies

Fuck you mikey

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/mach0927 📅︎︎ Aug 01 2019 🗫︎ replies

I'll never understand why so many people clamor to call Pacific Rim "dumb". Like, relax, you're not going to be exiled to the void because you like a genre movie.

(That said, the video was alright. Not the backhanded compliment montage I was expecting.)

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/RasslerVaan 📅︎︎ Aug 03 2019 🗫︎ replies
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We used to think of of ourselves like King Kong. But we ain’t who we used to be. Our hopes, our dreams, even the distant memories of those dreams. Just gone. What if we were all monsters just fightin’ to stay alive? Fightin’ against hell every goddamn day just to find a lick of peace in this rock? We faced down the monsters but we had to make our own to do it. Who can tell where one monster ends and the other beg ins? We couldn’t even find peace amongst ourselves, what made us think the Kaiju would just give it to us because we made some comically-gargantuan dumbass robots? This is our reality now and this is our purpose. Only this. Only death. There is no end except your own. We don’t celebrate birthdays no more. Just another thing on a long list a shit that don’t matter no more neither. We fight for the privilege of fightin’ again tomorrow. We wake up, some of us die, and we go to bed. Then we repeat it again tomorrow, only less of us are alive this time. Sucks for me most of all, though. Patrick just did a great goddamn video on Terrance Malick. But it wasn’t to be. Michael, you fool. Watch Patrick’s video it’s really good. Hey, here’s a lot of super complicated stuff to talk about! We need to ask broad questions here that might not have simple answers. Broad examples that span entire cultures through the lens of the same medium. Allow me to illustrate, for example the depth of this impossible-to-solve cranial bone-dumpster could be centered on: Before you answer, Kaiju, culturally and etymologically, are a Japanese invention. Itself a Japanese word meaning STRANGE BEAST. There are vague references in literature before this point but the concept of Kaiju as mainstream in the modern era will come from our journey in film. We open in 1933 with the release of Wasei Kingu Kongu in Japan. It’s just a dude in a gorilla costume. This was released the same year King Kong was in America. The turn around on this was incredible. Then later in 1938 Japan just made a King Kong movie. Then World War II happens. And we move to 1954, Godzilla comes out and that’s where the modern idea of Kaiju really comes from. Ishirō Honda made a film where the monster and the havoc it wreaks, is personified by a giant monster that destroys cities, but really it’s a stark reminder that humans are the people caught in the unimaginable horror of nuclear holocaust. Even the silly stereotypes about Godzilla movies about dudes in suits come from a panic created intentionally after the movie was released in America that cut 16 minutes of footage out of the film and made Raymond Burr an American journalist and gave that character V.O. that just talks over everything that they didn’t bother to translate in the first place. and oh whoops, deleted all of the subtext and nuance about the consequences suffered on innocent people as a result of the world entering the nuclear age. America pretended it was a dumb monster movie about a dude in a rubber suit because that’s what America do. Which makes scenes like this one in Steven Spielberg’s sequel to Jurassic Park, The Lost World, really weird. America referencing their own racist trope based on their own misunderstanding of a classic film, making a joke about their own censorship of said film. Bra-f***** g-vo, US. King Kong and Godzilla suddenly take on meaning as symbols of identity. The most serious action in all of human history and its repercussions that are still felt today, is at the center of monster punching movies. In a lot of ways, Godzilla was art made to try and help a culture understand an evolving, extremely difficult world. This is at the heart of Kaiju and Kaiju culture. LOOKING AT YOU, Sora no Daikaijū Radon! In 1962 King Kong in fact did fight Godzilla in a movie called … hang on, sorry … King Kong vs. Godzilla. Ok. Some of the artists working on this movie list the original King Kong as an inspiration in their work at Toho on Godzilla. These monsters are intrinsically linked in ways that modern studios absolutely do not appear to understand or worse, appreciate. Okay, smash cut to Ultraman! [Del Toro] “I loved the TV shows like Ultraman, UltraQ… I grew up watching that too.” Power Rangers. Voltron. Friggin’ Rampage. Neon Genesis Evangelion. A thing people have a couple of opinions on. BUT DID YOU KNOW that Frankenstein is a Kaiju? I know! It’s a turbo-funky world, y’all. Kaiju culture is big and over the top and hilarious and somehow endearing because there’s generally a heart yearning for meaning our shared worldly chaos. You don’t have to think about big monster fights too hard, but it’s awesome when we see deeper meaning in films, especially when they’re about huge-tastic robots punching through space avocados [can say] something about who we are and where we came from. Let’s talk about the movie, and by extension Guillermo Del Toro and his effusive, never-expiring joy. Pacific Rim is a 2013 gigantic robot film written by Travis Beacham and Guillermo Del Toro, directed by Guillermo Del Toro. It is the canonical sequel to Robot Jox. Not a lot of people know that, because it is, in fact, wrong. “He puts so much attention to the detail, and cares so much about how it looks.” We’re going to talk about this movie through the gleeful eyes of Del Toro who asked that designers not use pop culture references when having conversations about design. Don’t reference Evangelion. Not Voltron. Pretend you’re really canceling the apocalypse with giant robots and solve it with design. So, let’s talk about those Jaegers. To start thoughts on visuals and stories were agreed upon, reworked to include the engineering and space for some mechanics a Jaeger would actually require, then went to the outside and designed the vents, exhausts... [del Toro] “And then we pulled back and started designing the vents and skin on top of that." There’s gonna be a theme here where everyone tries exceptionally hard to deliver on the love letter to robot punches. The designers created distinct and interesting robots and then made them work. You can go down the rabbit hole for hours on just the Jaegers. Take Cherno Alpha for example, the oldest Jaeger still fighting the fight, powered by a nuclear reactor. [del Toro] “…and sort of a nuclear reactor on top of that. It looks like a giant headed robot but if you look at it carefully it’s actually a smaller robot carrying the reactor like this.” It looks like a big, slow ass beater, who puts big cylinders in its hands called “the roll of nickels” to punch better. A move Gypsy Danger later steals, only this time with shipping containers. At its heart, Pacific Rim is about the world coming together to put up a final defense against their own extinction. They put up a sea wall against an apocalyptic-threat that came from the ocean because subtlety is for mimes. Ya burnt, mimes. Did I mention Idris Elba is in this movie as a tough as nails commander with a secret? “Today we are a cancelling the apocalypse.” You see, Pacific Rim is a bit of a tone salad. Just whatever is in there. Ay, name an ingredient you can’t put in a salad, take a moment if you need it Pacific Rim wants you to have a good time. It’s summer-level camp played not just straight, but with conviction. “If we’re going to do this, I need you to protect me.” We have differences we must work through. It’s endearingly simplistic in this day in age. The earth’s in some real trouble here and the only solution is.... Guillermo is a huge fan of Kaiju art, in seemingly all forms, and he pays respect the history of this art form as well as its future. Also these clips will never get old. I’m not sure how many times in any perso n’s life where the opportunity to make a gigantic monsters-fighting-robots movie will come across the ol’ plate, but if you say yes, and you’re tapping into a deep, cultural touchstone, you need to execute a thing with respect and also justify your own existence. It is a very simple message about the entire world coming together to face down their own extinction and it hits Independence Day levels of hoorah-ah-ah. Which is a nice, clean message. Multiple academy award-winning Guillermo Del Toro took a straight B-movie level premise and delivered a AAA film that a lot of people hold very dear, while still delivering the B-est of movies. Yes, I see what I did there also. It’s weird, and pretty gross while simultaneously being oddly-beautiful, and operates with a details-obsessed level of filmmaking, and a less than obsessed approach to physics. Which is not a complaint. It’s telling to see what this movie takes seriously and what it doesn’t. The virtual cameras in this film operate on real camera rules. A shot can go where you could theoretically build a thing or have a helicopter near said thing. Where ‘thing’ is used here to denote a massive city-eating leviathan or a 7,000 ton machine. Pacific Rim does not have cameras that draw attention to themselves and make you feel like you’re watching a video game. Jaegers move slowly and arduously, and they can only punch so fast, so you might as well put a rocket on its elbow so it can shoot rocket punches and somehow that tangle of words I just called a sentence checks out. “Yeah uh, hey I have some feedback. The average infrastructure of a city wouldn’t support massive robots and kaiju running around and bopping each other on the heads on top of metropolitan streets cuz like the whole city would just collapse or whatever. I’m very smart. I talk on the internet.” I think practically everyone involved in this movie knew that absolutely none of this could happen in real life. That’s why it’s a movie. “Candy doesn’t have to have a point. That’s why it’s candy.” The world of this movie absorbs the Kaiju. They build new things out of their bones. There’s an entire black market devoted to their anatomy. There is so much thought, and care, and effort, and joy in every single frame. You can dig in this sandbox for hours and still find new things. Guillermo has a heart for monsters. They aren’t just villains, they’re just … another character. And they go out of their way to characterize everything in this film. And I appreciate that even if it wasn’t something I always did myself. So I guess what I’m saying is it’s time to come clean about something. I always wondered, if it came down to it, does that person even exist? That fabled but unproven, one person that mirrors every fundamental aspect of your existence? The one. Drift compatibility. They said, outside of kin—maybe people you’ve known since your toddlin’ stretch, if you’re looking hard enough. But it’s too fundamental of connection to be random. Fate of the world, right? Take no chances, but you’ll probably have to anyway. Who, is drift compatible, with me? It’s a big question. Scope of the universe type shit. If it comes down to it, is your mind in sync with someone else’s so well, that you could save the world? I haven’t always appreciated this movie. I use that word purposely. I did not value what this movie was offering, but knocking it because of what it wasn’t. And every trusted friend that came to me and told me maybe I was missing something, I didn’t listen to. My biggest gripe. My biggest beef. The thing I couldn’t wait to tell everyone about… was about why drift compatibility was this massive port of call for storytelling and I held it against this movie that they didn’t do what I wanted them to do with that concept. You see, drift compatibility would allow you to see a person’s entire life: all of their guilt, all of their worst romantic encounters, all of their family drama, all of their fear, every mistake you’ve ever made and that means DRAMA. But that wasn’t what this movie was trying to do and I myopically believed that made me somehow superior. You’re probably asking yourself, When is He Going to Talk about the Title? Right now. I called this episode Pacific Rim: The Best, Dumbest Movie. Hey, real talk, being a Youtuber is hard. You have to come up with a topic and provide meaningful insight on a topic every few weeks. And if you take too long, or people disagree loudly with your conclusions or how you made them, ya burnt. Last year, I started putting together a schedule of loose ideas toward the beginning of the year, so at least I have some idea what I’m doing next after I finish a video. It gives me comfort to plan in this way. So, earlier this year, I had an idea to talk about how Pacific Rim was the best B movie of all time. I didn’t mean dumb as a pejorative, but it was still operating on that belief I had that Pacific Rim was not as smart as it could be, even if it’s the best time you can have at a movie. I was wrong. I’m overjoyed I did this episode because I can say that I was wrong. Pacific Rim was a conciliation movie. Del Toro had spent years on a film called At the Mountains of Madness, a Lovecraftian oovrah. He worked on this movie for two and a half years, during which Avatar came out. Del Toro then got James Cameron on board as a producer, but even that wasn’t enough to sway Universal Pictures to part with 150 million dollars. All of that left the door open for Pacific Rim, a film that would highlight his entire life, and the things that brought him joy. Del Toro credits Pac Rim as being the only film shoot he has ever enjoyed, fully, completely, from start to finish, every single day. He took a history, he himself lived in almost daily as a child, and put the dreams of all of the people that have made these incredible kaiju films over the years up onto the screen. In a way no one had ever seen before. He was in a position to take a massive swing at celebrating the entire history of a genre, and he succeeded on such a scale, if it was anyone other than Del Toro, I probably wouldn’t believe it was possible. When you see the breadth of what they were attempting to do, it’s hard not to stand in awe. I probably should have changed the title after I announced it, to something like “Pacific Rim: Wow! Gee-Whiz! Goodness-golly-glaciers!” but I also think it puts a punctuation mark on what I mean. A ton of people think Pacific Rim is a dumb movie, I used to be one of ‘em. And for me it’s almost a joke to me at this point but I think it’s a badge. I think it’s endearing. I think a lot of people look at Pacific Rim and say "I think this is a dumb movie." And now I can look them in the eyes and say “Yeah. It’s the BEST dumbest movie.” hey It's my voice again I'm actually here for the credits. With David Mcintyre, A wooden leg, brosephine, Matt Hessinger, Ken Burns, John, Bret Brizzee, Trey Bushart, Sam Bacon, Jennifer Adame, Christopher Woo, ..... MAN this is so Blacktoothbob. I can do 'em all! uh, hey. How's it going everyone? I really thought I was gonna get through that. Uh, cuz I'm dumb. Um this is scrolling way too fast. Yes, I pay good money just to see these in the credits. And I say good things to keep you in them? I dunno. Yeah, so this dealt with some of my existential dread about doing this. Sort of connecting up some of my feelings over the past few years. I mean, Pacific Rim came out a long time ago but I carried that with me for a long time. And I wanted to come clean and be like 'I was very wrong!' unlike Sandy & Jayremy Lester who are always right. Little known fact. A lot of people don't know that. Go to patreon.com/movieswithmikey please. If you want to support us. Also like this video, subscribe to the channel. Just make our metrics blow up I'm told that's what "metrics" ..... uh, cuz youtube is confusing and I'm old. And Benjamin A straub is not. Actually I dunno how old that guy is. Henry Kropf. Kelly Naylor. Richard Scott. A lot of people. I've been saying their names for a long time. Walrus, Axel Lehmann, James Masten, Kevin Hoctor, Garrett Lathey, cyclopsboi, jakub koziol map, you are all amazing thank you for the continued support. support creators. bye.
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Keywords: pacific rim, pacific rim analysis, guillermo del toro, kaiju, jaeger, pacific rim review, Movies with Mikey, MwM, Mikey Neumann, Filmjoy, Film Joy, movies with mickey, joyus media, film review, positive movie review, positive film criticism, film analysis
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Length: 21min 57sec (1317 seconds)
Published: Tue Jul 30 2019
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