NY Basketball Legend Sebastian Telfair Tells His Life Story (Full Interview)

all right here we go we have a New York basketball legend in the building yes sir Bion T Fair welcome to V TV we've been talking about doing this for a few months now absolutely you know but we finally you're in the same place at the same time to do it what's good VL everything good man first time here start in the very beginning star in the 2024 right Brooklyn New York Island uh grew up with both parents and your dad was a Vietnam vet yep was that like you know a thing growing up did he come back you know with the like a PTSD situation from being out there absolutely um shout out to all the veterans but yeah my pops was a part of the Big Red One um army division uh went to the Vietnam Warriors over in Germany and all that type of stuff um nille was the same when he got back you know what I'm saying but uh he fought for the country you know so I'm a part of that bloodline but um yeah he definitely suffered from injuries actually oh injuries that um actually my dad passed away you know from years later but my dad legs was um I'm not going to say blown up but he had an incident over there when he was at War and basically yeah I watched my dad patch his legs up my whole life damn yeah facts sorry to hear that man I feel like a lot of times the best treated well when they come back on top of it so yeah now he was a part of the you know the veteran um spot and everything close by con Isen so I I don't know I pretty I feel like it was pretty cool for him going to the war I wish he didn't because he' have been healthier but I feel um unique being you know the child of somebody that went to a war for the country you know what I'm saying yeah facts okay now you have 10 brothers and sisters yep 14 14 yeah so so I'm I'm I'm happy you act to that because I always say 10 and there's really 14 of us cuz my father got four before he met my dad you know what I'm saying and they in my life I know who they are they always been in my life um but your mom yeah yeah so I always kind of leave them out in interviews but I'm here to say no it's 14 of us okay so he has four yeah with with different and then my mother my dad us your your mom and dad had 10 kids together something like that okay I never I never really made that detail cuz we we a family you know what I'm saying so it was like I never really said what it was what it is but my mom and my dad actually have five kids okay who's the T got it um and my mom had three kids when she met my dad okay got it um that type of vibe you know right well because your half brother is uh Jamal Thomas yes right and your cousin is Stefan Marberry yes got it and and you grew up in Surfside Gardens yep 31st Street okay so what was that like in the in the mid 90s late 90s sheesh rough con Isen was definitely rough it's con Isen is a peninsula so we kind of like blocked in we got a our own Community within the community but super rough definitely you know how right now be telling the kids like we got new buildings we got WR Aid and all that stuff I remember just walking around it was just like Gates and grass facts and basketball courts right cuz this is post the crack era so you're dealing with the The Fallout of that whole crazy crazy child fact yeah that the 90s was um I don't know my cuz my childhood was pretty cool so I don't really look at it as rough times but the the environment was rough and uh you know in the 90s most black people ain't have no bread you trying to get some some money but other than that it was normal well we talked about losing friends through violence during that time um yep absolutely what do you think was the most traumatic thing that you either witnessed or or knew about during that time when I was like um let me see my friend David from my building let him rest in peace he passed away when I was maybe like young like eight nine maybe like nine 10 years old 10 11 years old and um I have a Vivic memory of him because he didn't play basketball right he was kind of you know a street kid and one time um Disco Dave part of my community used to run a big tournament um con lives for youth live for youth right and he was on the side one time and I was on the side cuz I was just a kid I wasn't playing yet and um Disco said to David he was like yo you got to play like come come over here and play he's like nah I don't play ball he's like nah I'm making all the kids play come play so he got on the he got on the court and he was like give me number 31 that's my block I'm watching this as a kid and they gave him number 31 and when I started playing soon I start I said give me number 31 that's my block so that's the numb I end up having but that was super super traumatic like when when when he got killed two blocks away from where we grew up at okay through gunfire through yeah through gun violence sad sad so what age did you actually pick up a basketball um nine nine years old never never learned how to play ball soon soon I touch the basketball I know how to play right because didn't you say around that time you told your mom that you're going to NBA yep so I'm G buy a house and and and I'm going to the NBA facts okay and and how quickly did you start to progress from that age well Stefon went to the NBA when I was like nine 10 years old uh and Ziggy from Brooklyn USA who was a a huge part of um My Success especially as a child prodigy he had a um Brooklyn USA so it was a um aou program and Stefon went to the league Stefon used to play for him and when they was organizing Stefon basketball tournament in Cony Allen Stefon pops Uncle Donal let him rest in peace he um introduced Ziggy to my mom I remember going to my block that day he was like Y where you was it's like 9:30 at night I was like I was you know running around he was like you going to play with Ziggy I'm about to take him upstairs introdution to your mother we went upstairs introduced to my mom the next day he came and got me took me to play in Citywide and I remember Omar cooking them being the older players and I became the top uh fourth fifth grader in the country right there top fifth grade in the country in country that next summer yeah damn okay yeah just to kind of set the tone a little bit at in 1996 when you were 12 that's when Tupac got killed 11 you're 11 my bad yeah that's when Tupac got killed you said you cried like a baby like a baby what was it for an 11 year- old to have that type of connection with a rapper that you've obviously never met and you know what I mean to have you cry like that I mean it affected all of us I remember when I heard about it but I didn't cry to be honest so interesting like I really don't know but you hear people speak about the effect of Tupac when he was for the culture and I guess whatever plans he had for us you know in the future it was you know it's still you know it's still set in you know it's still set in with us but I just remember that day I remember whoever was on the TV and they was like man they pulled the plug and I was just on the floor cried for like an hour wow and my sister walked in and she was like sh what happened and I was like to B go but I don't know that's that's crazy and then it's it's crazy yeah I mean they say the greatest rapper of all time I mean it's because of moments like this yeah I mean I wish Pac got some more time um to live like thinking about it now how highly followed they were they were and how many things they got done at that age it's like sh like these dudes was definitely different yeah but later on didn't you say that if Pac was in Cony Island he'd still be alive yeah explain that um it was kind of like a analogy but like I feel like Pac a really have a community so I feel like and I'm just I'm just like everyone else I'm just reading the reports like everyone else I I don't know these guys but I feel like he was alone you know what I'm saying and when and when you got a community like con Allen like he wouldn't have been alone you know what I'm saying that's that's the first thing um yeah you got you got to have that safe spot you got have that safe place you know what I'm saying and I don't feel like Po got an opportunity really had that yeah he jumped around from Baltimore to Marin City Oakland to La so when you going through your ups and downs I feel like even with my situation right now right when I got out on Bell they said that I could I couldn't um come to Brooklyn H so I wasn't feeling that I was like wow like I need to go back to Cony Isen so I made sure my lawyers put the paperwork in and make sure I could be and con Allen that's the best thing I did for myself go right back to my community you know face the music you know even though people see you back in your community things like that and to see you you know make all the money and all that but um that's why I went back and you know I went back to my Batcave and I you know I had to go shopping back up you know recreate some things and and start over Okay so you go to Abraham Lincoln High School in Coney Island as well yep and you just become a monster at that school uh you become the all-time leading scorer until 2009 Lance Stevenson you know beat your record you were named uh New York State Mr basketball um and it was around this time that you met LeBron um yep he came to New York to play yep how big of a deal was LeBron during this time sheesh it's like in the basketball world like the guys that knew like Braun was already Braun off the rip okay like he was already 68 shooting Fade Away threes like he was already just moving like he was Michael Jordan okay but what happened when you guys started playing together well um me and braw known each other since we was like um how old maybe 12 13 um before we got to the leag I had Brun come out to New York City um and playing I8 that was a Legendary game um it was cool for people who know who he is now like man Braum was you know in and in Brooklyn and Queens with Bassie and [ __ ] but when Braun came out here to New York Braun only had two points and everybody be like kind of picking on me about that they like why Braun came out here he only had two points I was like I think Braun only had two points because when they pulled up so let me tell you we had Braun come out here so we we paid for the tickets we got when they landed we had two big turtles everyone got my jersey on right is it's Braun MF Rich his his group of characters right his group his his group his posy so when they got off the plane and they seen how we had it and how we was running around New York and my brother the coach and my you know my coaches you know somebody from the community that's our friend and my friends is doing what they doing like they ain't need to play the game they knew they they they knew what they needed to do once they you know once they left from right there well right because in 2002 you and Braun were on the cover of Slam yeah and I remember the caption it said Sebastian telair and LeBron James are about to Rule the World Imagine That imagine that imagine that how did it feel to be on the cover with LeBron on one of the biggest basketball magazines in the world like now or at the time at the time um it was normal because you know I feel like we was uh somewhat equals at that at that time we both the top players in the country we both were serious about basketball but that definitely was super super cool then Bron go be the number one pick a year or two after that was that was definitely um a part of my legacy especially being from New York City you know it definitely heightened the whole thing well right I mean because I mean slam does occasionally put high school players on the cover but not very often usually these are NBA players so the fact they put two high school kids two teenagers on the cover but then with that you had a Sports Illustrated cover store story uh you had a documentary through the fire uh there was a book uh the jump uh Sebastian I'm glad you know I'm glad you know all this vag cuz they trying to leave me out the story they trying to act like they don't know all of this there was a magnifying glass on you facts in high school uh the likes of which I've rarely seen facts I'm I'm the first Indian over the hill right I'm the first Indian over here so the whole template like you see nowadays when a kid come in and he got you know Camas foll him you got a clothing line he got a s sneakers the posi the the you know all that I'm the first Indian over the hill to do that and mine was organic and we gave them through the fire the the documentary which really showed everybody exactly you know what I'm saying what to do and what we was doing at the time and [ __ ] everybody got paid after that everybody knew what the you know what to do right you're also the McDonald's All American uh what what year high school oh four so you were what a you were a senior senior y got it all Americans is for seniors which you know if you're in the McDonald's all- americ it pretty much assured an NBA deal later on most times but I by that time I was already I was already a full Pro by that time you talking about my senior year like I'm already I've been on full salary you know for already years so people were paying you already yeah I was I was ready you got to see when I'm in fifth grade and sixth grade and all that I'm in the magazines I'm holding a Nike sneak up like that's not free and you got to remember at this time this is the we going back to the 90s and during that time everybody broke you know what I'm saying I grew up in the crib it's 10 15 of us in the house um that with a lot of love but [ __ ] like we was the we a have it wasn't that all under the table money pretty much yeah right because I mean you have these situations where where people would give you a bunch of money the local DB boy whoever or the whoever Scout you know would give you money then expect you to sign with them later on was there any that type of thing going on N hey my my my community you know my community took a liking to me in a certain way so I never need it in that type of way but in my household you know what I'm saying growing up we ain't have no furniture you nobody have no cars none of that type of stuff so I was like I went outside Stefon came with a red Range Rover I was like this is what I'm doing you know what I'm saying and shout out to Ziggy Ziggy um I remember him calling me to his house right and he was like I'm like in sixth grade and he was like we got a new Nike deal it's because of you but I'm not giving you all the money you know what I'm saying and I was like yo can I can I get a uh ax he they buy me whatever $1,000 ax some form posits that was $250 and I ain't been the same since the whole Rucker Park situation with Jay-Z and Fat Joe were you still in high school when that happened yeah okay tell me about it the blackout yeah that's the Blackout um the blackout was crazy that's the the game that never happened the game that never happened but what people don't know is that the blackout situation kind of like it kind of starts the whole year before you know what I'm saying not to mention um you know Stefon my cousin he's already playing with Fat Joe and and Rucker so one day step want come to the hood right he's in this new White Range Rover we all on the Block like oh [ __ ] staring and step like you want to go to Rucker I'm like to Rucker I'm like yeah I never been to Rucker Park you know what I'm saying so I get in the car with him we shoot up to the Rucker when we we get out the car he got this big Gucci book bag on we jump into this big stretch limo um which they have a team meon in so you know you got the big stretch limo I feel like a Escalade stretch limo and when we get in I'm right behind stepan stepan jump in the limo and when you look to the right Fat Joe is sitting at the head of the limo like this so soon I get in he like nah nah he can't get in I'm like oh he like nah he can't get in because like he only see me with Jay-Z and him and Jay is not eye to eye at this time at all you know what I'm saying so every time he only see me I'm at the Garden and something court side with Jay or whatever so when I get in limo he like nah Steph like like nah this is my cousin and Fat Joe like I don't care like he not getting in this limo right so Steph is like he gonna play with us next year So Fat Joe was like you know how you know how you know how Joe you know you know how fat Joe is like he not you know what I'm saying you can't push him over by no means yeah so he was like oh he GNA play with us next year all right so they sit down they have their meeting whatever whatever they play the game fast forward the next year I'm walking in with Jay-Z like this with Jay-Z arm around me going up there so that broughts all the way into the season going into us both getting into the championship game but that's the undertone of what's really going on well right because uh Steph and Jay-Z got a whole beef going on and then you got Steph and Jay-Z beefing right because well there's a robbery that happened when Steph got robbed for a chain and then when Jay dropped la la la he said don't confuse me with Marberry out this [ __ ] run up on run run up on me at the light you could lose your life and then that was a shot at Steph St B you're very you know and then he he responded you know Steph respond well you know I look at Jay-Z and say wow here you are trying to be something that you're not you know you're not an advocate for black people you sold drugs to black people and you wrapped about it and talked about it how do you do that like I'm trying to figure out that part like you can't make that right this ain't snitching this ain't telling on nobody you already told on yourself man and so you know the two of them never really got along I don't get but and you're down with Jay but step cousin Steph my family right you are Kindle is the big homie right all right so that was that didn't make no sense at the time and that was unfortunate for me you know what I'm saying but um I don't know yeah I don't know but I when I got around Jay and Stefon was feeling way about that I I asked Jay like I was trying to get them on the phone at the time like Jay Jay was like man I'm rapping like I'm not even F to like respond or like really you know what I'm saying I'm rapping so I remember throwing throwing throwing that out there but that's so stupid and then once Steph seen we was cool that should have been what that is because Steph and Jay end up having an argument in Madison Square Garden restaurant something like that and Steph is talking crazy to Jay you know what I'm saying and that thing helped me and Jay relationship but how I look at it like Steph was hating yeah because the real VI like Steph my cousin I love Steph and Steph loved me but Steph was hating like but they said it was over a girl I don't care and don't know nothing that's true not no I was up to to get my family out the JS I was up to go do what I needed to do at the time and Jay was a resource and a friend to me you know what I'm saying so the the vi with Steph at the time like you know I'm saying like Steph was on you had everybody kind of wanting something out of step on and kind of not getting it not saying he right or wrong for that but I wasn't on that time I popped up with Jay and I had I a really have to ask for nothing so him and um Steph and Jay not being on the same page I'm like that's super bogus yeah super bogus okay so here you are you're a superstar in high school and originally you committed to go to the University of Louisville yep with uh Coach Rick patino but then something happened that made you change your mind no not really I really I a have no plans to really go to college okay well cuz I had read that someone got killed in your apartment building yep Robin Isaiah um wring PE a lot of a lot of you got RPS in my my my interview right now but yeah um my my senior year Robin Isaiah got killed um in my building on my floor um super unfortunate situation it definitely um definitely uh I'm not going to say sped my decision up but it made my decision make sense to other people I was already in my mind feeling like I'm going to the NBA I already told my mom that I remember Rick patino came to my house and we had a meeting my family was around and um and this for every college coach in the world right if you sitting in front of the best player in the country right they got him whatever R and they ask the family ask is is he going to start and is the Smart answer is not saying put a question mark behind that like don't that's like so stupid I see so many people do that I'm like why not say yes your son is gonna start I'm going to give him the basketball he's going to make us win a championship but I remember my brother Dan he was like yo he going to start and rtin was like oh we're gonna we was like bro not I was looking at my like I told y'all I a got time for this so but um I remember Rick matino walking out the house right and I was going to walk them downstairs but I closed the door quick I was my mother I was like Ma I don't care if I'm the last pick I'm going to the NBA well I remember you had an interview with sports Sals trade you said uh I know I can handle living here but I don't know about my family I've seen more friends killed than I can count I don't want to put my family through that much longer and I guess your mom didn't want to leave the projects either and it seemed like your decision was sort of based on getting your family out of that situation not really um yes and know every kid coming growing up in my um where I grew up at in my environment or and any type of you know projects and like every kid in America wants to come up with a plan and and help his family um nah I love the basketball it was it was just it was just there it was the thing to do step on Stefon opened the doors and our projects ain't nothing with basketball courts around he was a kid but nah um and know those are like spaced out bullet points I don't feel like that's the vibe in my Community that's that's the real truth okay now before you actually joined the NBA you had an Adidas sneaker deal worth 10 million a little more than that a little more than that and you're 18 or 19 at the time um 18 when or 19 when I when I got the got it yeah so you haven't even joined the NBA and you got a eight fig sneaker deal what does that do to a teenager shees for one if you 18 you don't understand you don't understand right you're not coming from a family of money that understands Investments and everything else like that and I don't even look at it in that aspect like if I would tell a kid and he's 18 and he get whatever 1520 million like Investments and all that is cool but it's like bro you crack the code that's cold cracking everyone talk about Investments and this and that what to do with the money and do people know boy you cracked the code you got security figure on figure out how to protect the security in that you know what I'm saying because when you 18 you don't understand how 40 year olds are feeling you don't understand you not really into the real world you didn't get to live yet where a lot of responsibilities are on you and then to live to have mindset of when you know when your bills is paid and you know you can help people etc etc you can buy a c all that type of stuff that didn't sink in my mind what' you buy with that first check my first check first check my first check I bought my brother a car okay that then make it to the to my brother 5:30 went to the draft they didn't draft him whatever whatever he was crying with to step on for two three four years for a car Steph didn't want to buy him a car and so my first soon I got $2 I went and bought him whatever car the new car was out the time 645 and okay gave him I I gave my mom some some money my mom and my dad some money okay and you became the first NBA player how tall are you six feet six feet you're the first NBA player six feet under to go straight from high school to the NBA ever yep right usually guys are like 65 68 you were the first six-footer to go straight yep number 13 in the 2004 draft Portland Trailblazers and you cried like a baby super when you when you find out it was Portland as far from New York as humanly possible yeah um I definitely wish I could have got drafted to another team tell you the truth but right it's not up to you though definitely not up to you and I don't know I think I just got wealth in my in my in my story cuz that's Paul Allen drafting me that's one of the richest men in the in the world selecting me off of paper so GIF and a curse with Portland how much was that initial deal um from the NBA the rookie deal yeah only five minut like $5 million5 million but then you got the whatever 12 15 million from Adidas you're not really tripping at this time they could have gave me $2 million like it it would have had the same effect because nobody understand the money one a million dollars at this time sound like sound like 100 million right and I mean the Portland Trail Blazers were good a few years ago but by the time you joined they were kind of in a in a disarray the team was a little bit of a mess say it what was what was the name of them before they before I got there what was it they call them the jail Blazers ouch that was the name of Poland tril Blazers before I got there facts okay but you're considered a big deal over there you're the number two point guard in the country number six player in the nation you know this is the kind of rankings that you're getting so they're really looking at you as okay this is the I really was that guy I really was that guy I I supposed to went into the league made 4500 million for sure easy you know what I'm saying I I really was that guy when I was sitting there locked in had it all going you know what I'm saying because you need all that all them side accolades going on for yourself book movie sneaker deal and all that type of stuff to get to where LeBron is going it's different ceilings for different people right but that 2005 season was was not good 20 lost 23 your final 28 games yeah the team's worst record since 73 and they screaming fire doc fire doc they was trying to get Greg Odin they were trying to get the number one pick okay facts I mean how did it feel to be this huge Prospect to have the skill level but you're on a team that's just not it's not working right now that's you got to adjust to that you got to adjust because you got to learn how to lose and then you got guys that's been in the lead already they already know how to lose and then this is my first time being on a team where like the responsibility wasn't on me you know what I'm saying where where they didn't you know you got and the lead the guy that's getting the money and all that type of stuff he kind of takes the responsibility so I get into the leag I got zand making 20 million when I get to when I get to Boston I got what Al Jefferson and Pa P making 20 million so it's the first time playing basketball where it's like I wasn't in control you know what I'm saying or it wasn't on me you know what I'm saying so it's kind of like I was I was just a part of now what's your relationship with uh smos Parker smush um I'm I'm cool with everybody from New York all Whole New York City basketball players I'm you know they all watch through the fire all you know they all know what it is right because around that time smush got on the Lakers with Kobe yeah I played against smos um at the Lakers for sure right but there's a whole story behind him and Kobe yeah uh Kobe call him the worst teammate ever he say he shouldn't have been in the NBA but we were too cheap to pay for a point guard we let him walk on you heard about all this not no not that yeah and I guess at one point Smo try to talk to Kobe try to talk to him outside of the of basketball you know and he looked at me and said you can't talk to me you need more accolades under your belt before you come talk to me wow wow I knew Kobe since I was like 13 I got pictures of Kobe holding me like this when when when he first get to the NBA when at what the age jeers me and Kobe probably like maybe I don't know maybe 10 years okay he's he's a little less probably a little less than 10 years okay um I don't know I seen Kobe you know before the games working out Kobe came over to me we was lifting weights we both was injured at the time I was playing for Minnesota he was playing for the Lakers and Kobe came over to me he was like yo be great be great you know I'm saying I was like that always stuck out you know what I'm saying um I got a CO story I like to share with you too um but I don't know I don't know why he disrespects SM like that you know what I'm saying but then I I don't know well Kobe I remember your ACC you got get your accolades up to talk to Kobe well I remember I interviewed Joe Smith who played with kobby and LeBron and you know Kevin Durant all the greats he just said that you know and J he played against Jordan and he just said that Kobe's hunger was different yeah when you talk about all the greats like Kobe wanted to win on a level that he's never seen what was different with Kobe than other players you played with um I think he had had a different hunger I mean we all see it and we all we all can uh you know kind of tell but like it was from playing with I played with Kevin Garnett I played with Kevin Durant I played with LeBron twice I played with AI and his hunger was different and it was I can't put a finger on what it was but he would it just had his will not to lose was was just different I mean he come in and uh just instruct how how he instruct practice how he goes through practice um his knowledge of the game and and what he expects defenses to do to him so uh he's prepared when they when he when he sees it out there on the floor I mean it's a there a whole different preparation that he has for the game that you know you see anywhere else before so I can imagine if your point guard ain't going with your vision you're like [ __ ] this dude B basically was like that with a lot of people and that's why when Kobe um passed away let him rest in peace Stefon said that Stefan was like what everyone act like they like Kobe none of them like Kobe they didn't like Kobe and I was like oh [ __ ] well there there is a story about you and Kobe what that you told before which one um about how y'all came here on a bus oh yeah you tell true story that's that's this that's one of the days in the um lifting weights okay and Kobe like you you can't I never started a conversation with him that's so funny he just came over there so I guess that was SM problem you gota wait till him come to you but um Kobe is like man you know how I know y'all can't guard me so I'm like how you know we can't guard you he said when the ball come in and come hit my hand I know y'all got here on a bus I said like you know every team comes on the bus you could leave from the hotel every team no matter who it is he's on a bus he said I got here on a helicopter I just got off a helicopter you got off a bus I'm I'm this a bucket and I'm sitting there just stuck like I remember sharing that story with KD and Westbrook I remember KD looking at me like I'm about to go ask Co Kobe he say this and I'm sure he probably got an opportunity to ask him but yeah definitely y shout out to co man that's that's like that's the Legacy we going to miss yeah you've always heard stories about Kobe in the helicopter how he would go to practice from house you know to the stadium on a helicopter he lived on that helicopter which un CO's that guy I wish I wish I would have uh stay with that Mama mentality cuz when you playing ball it's like you got to have Mama mentality anything else is like what what what are we doing here well around 2005 you invested in phelipe chow yep along with Kevin Garnett and a few other people you threw like Al Harrington Al Harrington yep we've been T Lou t l is coaching um that now um yep we was this I just got the we just got the money so I was just kind of getting into what you know what I wanted to do Jay already had the 4040 and when you around them all Jay is talking about is is business at this time um I was right there when Jay decided to do the Brooklyn Nets um that's that's another story but yeah we I put the team together for us to go do um my manager Chris Brantley um and Andy Miller should even mention Andy Miller but yeah we definitely put together with uh Stratus and Mike I love F Charles man I actually ate there just the other day I I got it I got it ordered actually yep where went to Miami went up to um The Hamptons everywhere yeah no it's a great it's a great business do you still own a piece of f nope I I sold mine some couple years out to jome Bettis yes okay so you don't own any of that franchise anymore nope it's a strong brand man definitely strong brand um defin definely was good we get back to it okay so that next year um well you had an injury a thumb injury right so you were out like 12 games come back that next year and a situation happened with a gun on the plane where uh they basically found a loaded gun on the private jet at uh in the Boston airport that you said it wasn't your gun it was your girlfriend's gun but the NBA and guns you know what I mean from from the Gilbert Arenas to the John morance it never really ends well shees Louise shees um how bad of a situation was that when it happened um it wasn't like a police type of thing it was a more me dealing with the NBA and me thinking about John Morant when John Morant was just getting in trouble just now I was like I was embarrassed cuz the pots already pissed in for him you know what I'm saying yeah so I was like man what this kid sit down he embarrassing me bro facts and I don't want to be a part of that that's a fact but yeah um nothing with nothing that's like being Young making the wrong decisions you know got got too much going on regular [ __ ] though okay now you own a piece of Philipe Charles but then one night you're hanging out of Justin and then things go really badly before you get there back to Gilbert getting in trouble also right something that gber but something that Gerber said on his show he was like man after I got in because gber was a allar 100% right and then he had his problems you know in the locker room with the gun with the locker room not really police type you know well the police got involved at one point right not nobody was threatening to go to jail really well no but he had to plead guilty which is how he lost his Adidas deal oh he had to plead guilty for that something minor but that's that's how he lost that that huge deal yeah after that situation he said that when he was playing it felt different like he can see everything he can hear everything in the arena the environment felt different and I was when I seen him say that I was like man I played my whole career like that like my whole career what he was saying he couldn't really do no more because it's a different type of environment it's a different type of feeling once you get that type of you know stigma put on you or type of situation while being in the NBA you're at Justin which I guess you shouldn't have even been at because you're investing in Philipe child you should be at Philip CH instead but you're hanging out at Justins which is Diddy's old restaurant and someone snatches your chain it was a Rockefeller chain yep okay what happens somebody snatched my chain it was like like and he up nah I don't know but it wasn't like a an armed robbery it was like someone just grabbed it right um yeah it was somebody just um grabbing it ran off right type type of thing it was like I had my uh I was with my ex my ex-wife at the time and while I was driving to Flying Spur and I I parked it right in front of Justin's so I get out we going and it give us our table we sitting down a couple of minutes later the valet was like oh they told me the car you got to move the car so I get out move the car whatever when I'm coming back in K came off the wall Just sh took off I turned around looking at him like just took off running okay but then a scuffle happened and I remember I was watching what scuffle well okay so I remember seeing an interview it was on cam Capone news someone from um fabulous' crew okay Street Family talked about they were coming in and they saw the scuffle you know and they saw you like pissed off or whatever else and then a shooting occurred and there was like 12 of them but fabulous ends up getting shot right I'm not saying y'all had anything to do with it but but it was no but that's cap we talking about what cam what what show you said cam Capone and what's the dude name let me look it up um uh someone someone sent that to me so he's saying in the robbery is R not R from uh Atlanta r r a l o w facts um nah he was the one that took fabulous to the hospital after after he got shot I all that but the uh me it being a scuffle when that happened that's that's that's cap I was walking by myself okay and someone came off the wall and he got one foot past me and reached back and snatched my chain and ran so it wasn't no scuffle I seen him say something about that like like like basically I was held down and robed that gunpoint like that like nah son okay but then fabulous gets shot and then the rumor was like okay this was retaliation for the chain snatching from someone from your crew and it it turned into a whole big thing which from what I understand isn't even true yeah because that's what the newspaper got to do sell a little sell they sell they [ __ ] and then I'm connected to the NBA so of course that's a easy sell that's a easy sell easy easy right because and and that and that that story that right there that [ __ ] been like kind of holding me back for years like I don't I don't care about that everyone moved on doing what they got to do in life dud was much younger like nobody cares about that I was a victim in that situation I already know the streets don't really look at it like that but I'm a victim in that situation um I'm a multi-million millionaire in that situation yeah feel me well because that next night you know after your game against the New York Knicks you had to go to a police lineup right I mean no they came and got me all foot of court so I'm playing against the Knicks the next night at steping them think I may make like 15 20 points already at halftime and soon we get to the locker room we got NYPD finest right there on S side of my locker room I we everybody looking like I'm like they like you got to go do a uh what's that [ __ ] a lineup a lineup and see identify person they could have did that [ __ ] all day but they chose at the game to do it cuz they already knew what the truth was and everything so they knew like how we could just bother him to be bothering him like it was nothing to bother me about right because you couldn't identify anybody thank you right so it came in there took me off of NYC Madison Square Gan to go do a press conference the whole Boston Celtic team came and picked me up after the game right cuz you're playing for the Celtics at this point you had been traded already to the Celtics you're playing the Celtics in New York so the game end the whole team pulled up to the um to the bus I remember Doc Rivers you got to remember we got Doc Rivers at the precin in New York City that's crazy imagine like what that did you got to think about it and then they got to run that season this is the start of that season you're talking about when we had the one of the worst records that's the start of that but they gotta run my numbers back from that moment before that my rookies um Year my second year was perfectly fine you know what I'm saying um Doc Rivers in they was like oh hell no all all of a sudden Rondo starting because of that facts okay because was that the reason why you lost your deal with Adidas yep it was a $20 million deal yep and and I had I had like a $6 million check check pending right there so they just snatched that right back and yep lost is super bogus for that yeah Adidas is super bogus if you go to my documentary and they ask Adidas like why y'all signing Sebastian like where you know he brings to Adidas and they was like street credibility that's Street Credibility they said that that's on my movie y'all could look that up right there and this is the head of Adidas what he bring Street Credibility soon some Street [ __ ] supposedly jump off y'all go snatch all the money back and y'all been paying me way before this so how Y how you how you going to take that's my family backbone right there I mean could you have tried to fight it could you have like gotten your lawyers involved and argued that no I didn't do anything I'm a because at the end of the day you're a victim right you're a victim of a robbery like how how do they snatch away a major deal you know I I understand the Gilbert Arena's thing he's waving around guns with teammates and acting a fool that's my man you know the next night he's doing a little gun thing on that deal should have never that deal should have never been um taken away from me that deal should have been guaranteed yeah um I remember when I went when they first presented the deal to me right I had my agent with me and I had um I had my agent with me and I had my my high school coach with me right this is not like the real um formal meeting this is them letting know that they about to give me you know a deal and the first thing I sat down with a this and they said we want to let you know Sebastian we put this deal together for you your agent don't got nothing to do with this you know what I'm saying so that is X him out of out of some of the money but if y'all did all of that how y'all end up taking that deal back I mean in retrospect do you think if you got like a high powerered lawyer and try to fight it you could have gotten it back man I feel like as when it come to that corporate world me and my family like we strong as a family you know what I'm saying but in the corporate world at the time we wasn't we wasn't strong and that's why we should have had Jay-Z around us still right you know what I'm saying because somebody would have had the answers or been there and seen that before we were sitting there like oh they using you know some some fake Street stuff to to take the money so nobody really wanted to you know what I'm saying but that was our backbone and that was our security and I let them take that deal that's why y'all bring up Justin I'm like [ __ ] that we've been all like like [ __ ] that I got to move on with my life yeah I don't give a [ __ ] about that that same year you got married right [ __ ] that too mad young you're 21 facts way too young to get married way too young to be getting married but was it all that [ __ ] going on is it because the NBA wants married players cuz there's a family audience and and that type of thing no it's because dudes is dumb and no one speaking up no one advocates for athlete they look at the athlet like oh yall the ones with the money and no one advocates for the athlete athlete can't even say nothing I'm like what that's bogus everyone don't got LeBron money LeBron live in a different Community than the rest of the players yeah I'm saying half the they said 178 players only make one to four million yes uh so come on bro you know know we could come up with 3 million make have more than half the lead well right and you mentioned uh 90% of players get divorced when I got into the NBA and I was going to the meetings they were saying seven out of 10 players get divorced now was nine out of 10 players yeah so if people want to know where's the wealth and the basketball and the divorce right the the Ex-Wives yeah giving up the pension and all that stuff I'm like bro oh yeah LSA pipp and she got Scotty uh Scotty's pension that was wild when NBA need to do something about that and I actually um was on the phone with them two weeks about this about this issue and they said they was trying to come up with something to protect the players because it's the players though it's the players like like dudes got to understand that pretty girl that's on the side of you right now in that nice house her energy will shift nine out of 10 Kev got a divorce yeah like got a divorce Shaq got a divorce Michael Jordan got a divorce so I want to tell this is for all the players I'll be the bad guy I'll be the one like well shorty sitting next to us ain't it them basketball players so everybody you see right now with them girls them girls ain't it now you still got that one so and I don't want to discredit maybe Savannah one yeah you know what I'm saying but the other nine y' bogus and I'm telling y'all yall bogus y' bogus y'all all leaving y'all all stay the whole career cuz y'all don't want another chick sitting there and then y'all bouncing that's oh yeah I interviewed Joe Smith his NBA career was over divorce she stayed while he had four Side Kids three or four Side Kids three or four side kids while making that money and she stay once the that last NBA check showed up she's bogus all of them bogus y'all all bogus y'all all leave y'all all leave y all leave right away soon you find out his rookie year when he went to Charlotte he had you know what's the nameing on with him bounce right there and I could respect it yeah well that next year you end up getting traded to the Timberwolves uh how was that whole situation like um probably one of the best things that happened in my career right you said that was one of your favorite times yeah yeah okay that that um timber wolves because coming out of that situation where I was like I thought my career was over they took a liking to me I got um a time to be in a small town um take you know some of my family there and we got the a chance just focus on basketball a little bit tell you the truth well right that 2007 season uh that was your best career as a pro you average 9.3 points 5.9 assists you know it seemed like you're okay you're like in your groove and things were starting to build up and and when I signed with them they was like they was like we got Randy Foy and we got jocket they like you're not going to play you know what I'm saying they was like you're not going to play we just sign to you this and that and that and I was like okay I think I started like maybe 70 games that year something like that end up starting for the whole season yeah so that was the coming out of you know um losing Adida D and all that stuff that was the first year of me trying to you know do something a little different um and focus a little bit you know at the time being at the um Tim wolves but I also had to play my cards different you know what I'm saying cuz I was just moving like being myself cuz I'm a good person and I love my family and I help my community and I help my friends and I'm very giving so in my mind I'm a you know I'm a good person so people should treat me that way but people more going to look at you from the outside more than what's in your inside you know what I'm saying so I knew so this probably like my fourth year now I'm around for a little bit so I knew when I got to Minnesota like don't bring my Bentley with me don't bring the as them all that little that stuff don't do that cuz that was affecting me at the time when I was with Boston that that hurt me that's why season was bad because I'm the only one pull up with the Bley and all that and this is uh Rono Tony Allen Paul Pi Perkins Al Jefferson the NBA was different I'm the first one to walk in Lou vitton down and all that stuff facts yeah well that same year April 20th 2007 you were driving with a friend Al quentes your Range Rover you were going 77 in a 45 uh in the Bronx 55 and the 54 right Li register that old [ __ ] uh you get pulled over you had a suspended Florida license plate oh license so they find a 45 caliber handgun um both you guys said that they don't know anything about it and you got charged with felony possession of a weapon nope that's not true not not a felony um charge no what you get charg with I didn't get a felony for that I got a MISD Thea you got a MISD theor charge I was on probation for three years didn't David Stern reach out to you around this time yes what did he say not reach out to me he reached out to me but he Ain say nothing on the phone he just letting me know I'm looking for you so we over in IST doing some event when I'm with the timber wolves um one of them I forget the company where they give the the the H rades out right forget the company so we doing one of them events and David Stern walks in when he walk in for whatever reason like I turn around like catches the door and he walking and I'm noticing he's not saying nothing to nobody and he's like going through everybody going through and he gets to me and he puts his hand out to shake my hand I'm like oh he was like one more and I'mma crack your balls crack your balls word for word one more I'mma crack your balls cuz this is now the second gun situation after the air you know the private plane situation now this is the second one one more I'mma crack your walls he was not laughing or smiling and I was saying there like I I got you all right you got three years probation for that and uh three game suspension after you played guilty I mean this is now your second gun situation why do you feel like you just needed guns around you you know listen I I have guns too I'm not anti-gun I got guns in my house multiple ones I'm prun but I don't really carry him around like that I don't really got no no answer for that but it's I mean we are in America yeah that's my answer for that I but you could also afford security if you wanted uh no I can't I can't afford security aidas took the deal no I didn't I wasn't in that situation I could afford security n that's cat people be saying oh you could afford yeah I mean you going out one night but having full security like the people that have full security that's for people that got real situations making real money what I look like paying for security to follow me around all day half of my family not even straight yeah [ __ ] fu is y talking about what I look like paying anybody we we not even straight no you're right because you weren't at a club or you weren't at an event you're just going through life stop being bothering me who know I got a gun ain't nobody nothing going on so it's just like you just got to move accordingly so I'm not hanging my head about that I don't give a [ __ ] about that I pay my debt to society and yeah this is America and it is what it is bad decisions I'm not making an excuse for it that's just bad decision but I don't know I don't but I when I'm saying say is very clear I don't care about that I'm not hanging my head about that [ __ ] no more I did that my whole career I played like that the whole time how I'm All American I'm this and that and that and that and I get to the NBA I'm like this yeah [ __ ] with them guns okay and you were with the timber rules for four years yep because they they resigned you for a three-year contract so now you got a fouryear stretch yep you know at a at a solid team now they're not going to the finals but you know at least now you're getting some consistency in your life and everything else like that and then in 2009 to get traded to the Clippers was that a disappointment um yep I definitely wanted to stay with Minnesota yeah definitely didn't want to go to the Clippers and only thing that stick out to me about the clip I met BD I got to be become close friends with Baron Davis yeah so I wouldn't take it back but when I got to the cliff is and I got my first check I was ready to go I was like y'all can send me back to Minnesota you got to know the difference between Minnesota taxes and La taxes yeah I know I live in LA two different things bro so take a whole lot more yeah yeah you get your check in Minnesota so let me for for the audience let me make it make sense it's like like basically Ving half your money BR right that's why people move to Miami and Vegas and stuff like that yo fact so if they was giving you you getting 50,000 a check in Minnesota you go to La that check looking like 27,000 $30,000 I was ready to go right there right cuz you were with the Clippers um done leaving my coach yep and you end up getting injured I think gr injury we D Rose got a stale when he was on a fast break he was he's so strong and powerful that he's about to go up and I swipe down tore my whole groin worst feeling ever okay then you get traded to the Cavs yep with LeBron and Shaq is actually on the team as well this is like his second to last team that was fun now now you and LeBron go back yep what was that like to be on the same team with LeBron after that many years cool but I'm not the same person yeah you feel me and LeBron's now a superstar LeBron always Superstar like yeah to put it in contest like take LeBron Nikes off him his second year do that help him how much would that hurt LeBron if you took them Nikes off him his second year yeah so at this time I by the time I get to Cleveland I'm basically winging it that's the real truth I'm still trying but like me like I'm kind of talking in third person like speaking about the situation like I'm winging it by that point right did you and Shaq interact at all absolutely what was that like absolutely uh I know super super smart dude yeah super smart dude super getting on the plane he's gonna be reading the book he got his briefcase he got his business partners Shaq like he knows who he is so you know what I'm saying he's always going to try to like I don't know Shaq is cool Shaq Shaq super cool right but this is like the near the end of his career he goes to the Celtics next year he reti he was at the end of his career so he was just there like you know having a good time right and then you go back to Minnesota again yep Dante West is actually on that team I play with Delante in Boston also yeah right exactly this is the second time when you see Delante now in bad shape I remember we were actually supposed to do an interview with Dante yeah and he ends up getting beat up like on the street like the day before and it was just like oh man like I didn't realize how bad of a shape he really was we're like okay we'll just leave it alone for now and you see him it's like it's heartbreaking cuz he was you know a serious player at one point that [ __ ] truly heartbreaking um I mean anyone dealing with I guess he's dealing with what addiction addiction mental illness you know I'm sure there's a lot a lot of things going on same time yeah I don't know I hope he get the official help that he needs I know the NBA said they was trying to help him but I don't know I I haven't really seen much um but I was around he was a super funny dude super out outspoken um Boston Celtics didn't want us drinking red bulls everybody know Red Bull is [ __ ] terrible for you right so we used to still he used to still put them in the cooler make them cold and Delante like hey B I got got them I got I got them Red Bulls so I be D laughing with him and [ __ ] he didn't want to play point guard him and Doc Rivers arguing he I don't want to play point you know what I'm saying when we in practice and [ __ ] so I didn't really know his mental was all the way off but yeah I just remember like you know what I'm saying this this him going you know having a little confrontation with them I remember them getting them having a um not a two though they had like kind of a like u a Handler kind of like a Handler but him you when he was on the team for sure was the story about him and LeBron's mom dating was that a a real thing I don't got no confirmation on that but I was there during that time and based on the vibe I don't know it probably was true I mean she a grown woman I mean she wants to date a grown man I mean that's her business now I no I know we was in the playoffs against Boston that year I was irritated because I I was I got there the end of the so I didn't suit up for the playoffs and I'm watching Rondo and these dudes run around these dudes I was hot I was hot and then that come out right in the middle of the playoffs uh and I'm saying like I don't I don't give two [ __ ] about that like give me my jersey you know what I'm saying like stop it and then I feel like that's super disrespectful for I'm making a spectacle of that like stop it shout out to Gloria yeah yeah yeah black black lady driving a Lamborghini yeah yeah I love that facts well and then you get traded to the Phoenix Suns which you said was your favorite team for sure period Grant Hills on the team Steve Nash is on the team um I mean originally it was only supposed to be for one year but they actually ended up extending it yeah how did they feel to be on a team that was like a contender team at that point that a contender okay a good team yeah it felt good to be on a good team um because you got to kind of get luy NBA with that you can't really necessarily be in a situation where you in a rebuilding stage every year you know what I'm saying um I felt good veterans be around you know Steve Nash and these guys um Phoenix the business you know office took a liking to me but Phoenix was like a gift and a curse for me tell you the truth I think Phoenix in my career me being here tell you the truth what's the curse part um how it ended when I was there because I I was there on I didn't even want to sign with Phoenix cuz it was a lockout and I remember being in Westchester I'm in my house and I remember my agent called me Andy crook Miller right throw his name out there andy crook Miller right he um called me he was like Phoenix Suns want to sign you they want to give you uh 1.5 million I was like nah tell them give me $2 million I'm going get on the plane tomorrow so he was like no TJ FD just signed to to Spurs for 1.5 I was like I don't care so he called me back he was like all right I got the 2 million for you so the next day I get on the plane I go there when I get there I see the contract the contract says 1.5 million for one year and the second year they put two years on the contract and the second year says 1.9 million so 1.6 and 1.9 1.9 million but the second year is not guarantee and it's 500,000 cash out so they not so they basically after the season they going to to cut you and give you the 500,000 they go your 2 million you know what I'm saying I say cool bro I didn't Andy CR Miller lied to me basically he thought that the if I would have went to Phoenix and not done well that's exactly what have happened the season would have ended they gave me my 500,000 and they said [ __ ] out of here right I get to Phoenix a have decent team I start you know focusing playing well and it's the first time in my career where things kind of felt like I was in the NBA when I was in Phoenix meaning like uh my mom got a house I got a house you know what I'm saying we got all like the materialistic fruit from the from the league um so it's the first time I felt like you know you know how it's was supposed to feel or how I was assumed it would have felt to be in the NBA um because it's never fun losing you know what I'm saying so after the season the second half of the season I end up averaging 15 and eight you know what I'm saying we won game from the playoffs they over there saying they love me so I'm like all right cool the week before the season um in I meet with Andy Miller so we in Houston so I met with him I'm like what type of deal can I get CU you already remember at I'm trying to get up they took the Adidas deal I'm playing for league minimum I'm trying to get back up he was like all right at least minimum $15 million five year and I'm like that's what I need so I could take that I could focus and then we could go get a big deal the season so I played against Houston that night I remember playing as Cal lri and whoever the other point I tore they ass up they didn't know what was going on they already making money I remember them telling me I was gonna get that deal I went and tore Cal and them up we beat Houston all that so boom um the season end on the contract say they got 10 days to give me the money so I'm quiet for them 10 days so that 10 that 10 day hit I hit them Yo with that 500,000 500,000 no we like you as a player we're going to keep you into that 1.9 million for the second year but my my agent already told me that they already agreed that no this is for one year they going to cut them get them you know give them the 500,000 that's the 2 million he asked for and then if y'all want to keep him yall got to do a whole new contract and I just met with you a week before the season ended right and to make that situation bad is going to the start of the season I went to them I was like yo y'all got me in the locker room with Steve Nash Gren Hill then then you got the guys that's not like their name ain't as big like Josh chis and Hakeem Warick and Jared dley these dudes make 10 million a year like for real like these dudes like on the bench like nobody really you know what I'm saying make t so I was like yo I'm not making no money y'all got to give me my money in 6 months so I could get bigger checks whatever they give my money in 6 months versus the year and they agree and they gave it to me like that so me knowing that I'm focused you know what I'm saying I go get the I'm getting my checks for the six months the season end at the same time they telling me so my money end the same time they telling me your agent lied bro you know what I'm saying so me going through litigations with them that summer I ain't even get it next day I end up in China well right well because in 2013 you get traded to the Raptors at the end of the season the second year and the playing enter that into that one point whatever right but then you become a free agent and then you go to China uh what's the name of the team I can't pronounce it um tingen tingen Rong gang yeah tingen dragons dragons right you sign a one-year deal over there right you end up getting three and a half years and then that's the Outburst I remember there's this whole okay you were basically like yo this is unfair I help kids This Woman's lying she's got mental issues and so forth um but ultimately they give you three in a half now your sister ends up getting probation for threatening a witness was that that same girl you're talking about no a different witness threat in my ex-wife okay because allegedly your sister said that this witness was going to die or have to live with a rearranged face I don't know about that okay she ends up getting probation now you get three and a half years yeah my sister would my sister been on probation for this whole time with that my sister just getting an angle monitor offer for for this case okay like sry hear that you feel me for for a text message so that when I say that I don't give a [ __ ] about the I don't yeah you feel me well explain to me what happens so you get three and a half years you get locked up but then you get an appeal fairly quickly right like two weeks yeah that's rare usually appeals take a long time so you get sent to Rikers um yep what was it like being Sebastian telair in Riker's Island a place that no one wants to be at super lame that's how I felt super lame I'm like look at your lame ass people over there talking to me giving me everything everybody want to be cool with me I was feeling like you lame as [ __ ] in here boy right facts so your lawyer filed an appeal they accepted it so you get out after two weeks which rarely Happ we knew once he left that Court like we we we we had a chance so now you get out yeah but that next year 2020 Co hits h I got out out of down state FYI so I was in reikus for two weeks and then they sent me to down state down state and down state some history was made in down state us getting out of down state transferred out of down state yeah never been done before in the history of the jail like never and the day that the the bells M my lawyer and them got there they was like look we got the signature from the judge and this and that and that and that it was the the sheriff lady that runs those spots was like nah she had to double check it sent them up sow sent them to orany go to my boss and get a whole another letter and came back and she walked me out she was like I never we got the lambo park right there it was funny I'm yelling a everybody the whole yelling what I don't want to sound like I'm half glorifying none of that situation but like um imagine if you had a court appoint attorney you'd be there right now you'd be sitting in that same jail cell right now yeah and as bogus bro because so you trying to tell me everybody that got court appointed attorneys and sing in jail most of them are yeah pretty much I can't I don't know yeah well that next year that's when Co hits and your mother ends up catching it and passing away your brother as well yep my older brother Dan that coach been Lincoln so these are two of the most important people in your life absolutely backbone to my family tell you the truth yeah was the vaccine around during this time or this was early before it was really available they got sick right off the rip right off the rip right off the r right off the rip so my case end up being a blessing um tell you the truth L because I don't know like either if I woke up with no money like just say in 2017 I woke up and I didn't have a penny I still would to end up back in con Island you know what I'm saying so God so God so good to me that put me in a situation because I got an opportunity to go back and live with my mom oh before she passed and physically be with my mom and and ask her questions and her answer things especially for everything we just went through feel me I had to force my mother to move out the projects I had to force her to sit there and look at papers without a real name on it when it says millions of dollars my mother was scared she had to tell me I was scared Bassie I couldn't get my mama to look at the paper swear to God yeah I'm sorry for your lost so you know what I'm saying I got the opportunity to go and um be with my mom um for that time and I'm like damn only the arrest would have made me been there nothing else could have made me be back in con at the time so I'm like damn God don't make no mistakes at all and um my mom did her job already facts so when she did her job ready so and my mom was in the courtroom with me um during the sentencing right um I did not want my mom to be in that courtroom I ain't going to lie to you I was like what I don't want you see this right and right before I went through the chamber she was like God sit on the throne she's like God sit on the throne don't worry I know all my mother saying I've been around my mother my whole life um I know all my mother saying I've been around my mom my whole life and I never heard her say that saying okay your mom passes away your brother passes away you're sitting on appeal essentially in 2021 18 former NBA players get arrested on charges claiming they defrauded the League's uh Health and Welfare benefit plan out of 4 million fact including you Jamario Moon Glenn Big Baby Davis who I interviewed uh Tony Allen Darius miles and a bunch of other players I remember when I interviewed big baby about this and I asked him about it he said you know he quoted Young Thug you know take that [ __ ] to [ __ ] trial essentially according to Audrey Strauss us attorney for the southern district of New York the defendant Playbook included fraud and deception the players will have to answer for their flagrant violations of the law so when I say all this what do you say take that [ __ ] to [ __ ] Tri sh [ __ ] try that's all it that's all I got to say but recently he was found guilty of this whole situation now he's not doing jail time over this is he I'm not sure I'm what is your situation in accordance to this well we was waiting for my other situation um to kind of like pass which it kind of you know some some movement on it but um man we was in litigation with the NBA before the FBI I don't even know how to answer this okay I don't I don't want to be in conversation with the FBI bro I ain't gon to lie to you but bro that's our money so what I do want to say very clear to people cuz when they read the description they say Health Care fraud and it sound like we got to go steal everyone's healthcare for no that's cap big baby got big baby's money Bassie got Bassy money this one you only could go into your account so I wanted to make that clear cuz they're not going to explain that on the TV they I can explain that like you say Healthcare fraud they make it sound like I took your aunt and your uncle [ __ ] yeah like no I took when I get old that money was removed from my accounts does this have anything to do with the Billy Hunter situation absolutely because these these accounts wouldn't even wouldn't even be in Tech if it wasn't for Billy Hunter okay so let's talk about Billy Hunter first for a second he's the former executive director of the National Basketball Players Association shout out to Billy hun which is the Union uh he was criticized because a whole bunch of his family members were working uh for the nbpa but then uh Derek fiser end up doing an audit and he found a bunch of irregularities um and once a vote everyone basically kicked Billy Hunter out of his position right I didn't know that yeah uh yeah he got ousted from his position on February 16th 2013 okay he tried to sue fiser um it got thrown out but then they ultimately you know basically the judge said that he was still owed uh 10 and a half million something it it sounds like a big mess essentially what position was Derek fiser in to audit Billy Hunter cuz I don't know at the time I know he was a play at this time right yeah yeah I'm not exactly sure but um but he he got sued by by Billy Hunter but Derek Fischer got sued as well as his publicist and business partner a guy named uh Jamie weer you know what that is no j i mean Derek fish is I mean Super Bowers I because I didn't but tell you the truth I don't want to really speak on something I don't know all about but I know half of that story I I want to know what what position was Derek fer at that time to audit um Billy Hunter right that's the first thing second thing is um the players that came in in these last 15 years you don't hear none of them crying broke you don't hear nobody crying broke right right since Antoine Walker them like that era you don't hear nobody outside crying broke it's a lot more money it seems now not that's cap too that's [ __ ] Steph Curry and LeBron big contract don't got nothing to do with the bottom line of everybody having a couple of dollars fair enough right so Billy Hunter he noticed like oh [ __ ] guys are coming into the NBA 20 21 22 either if you have a good career and you play 10 years or let's say even 14 years right you 34 35 years old what you going to do with the rest of your life oh I've always said this man um that's always been the biggest problem with Pro Sports is that you get I mean your life is laid out for you you since you're like 10 years old right most Superstar players they get discovered very early on corre you know D Elementary School a lot of times correct and their life is laid out okay don't worry about school do this do that okay boom go to co go to this school don't worry about academics okay now you're in the league it's all structured you go to the hotel you can't leave structure structure structure Suddenly It's Over you're still a young man yep and you have the majority of your life still ahead of you and what do you do then the Joe Smith story is not that uncommon that's for his error though yeah that's for his error and that's why I say I advocate for athletes so that's why I want the athletes to hear me because in Joe Smith situation and I will be in a situation real soon that he's an aete like that soon I see that I'm calling him y I got a job for you over here right now 250,000 and I'm shooting you 50,000 right now cuz I advocate for the athlete I could get them doing go talk to the kids go do some camps you know say I'm saying I advocate like when lud Wayne ain't have the 7 million to pay the taxes then Jay-Z pop up with the money something like that he had beef with Jim Jones he still double back right Jim Jones Is On The Joint talk about we ain't bu Chanel right now but next week yeah Jay-Z still make sure he did that so for basketball like you get in that situation they just leave you dry yeah completely and ain't supposed to work like that right cuz cuz you made through the course of your career you made 40 million give or take give or take what do you think was your best purchases that you made during that time purchase purchases Investments purchases what are the things that you're happy you did bought my mom's a house other than that and then that [ __ ] sound like bought my mama house I don't know I she still has that house um no my mom not here no more oh I'm sorry yeah um the family does the family still have that house no no we was Upstate um like I said I like we should have stayed in the projects that's a fact but no that that was definitely one of my proudest purchases um getting my mom a house even though she wasn't you know too excited about you know um leaving and all that that was one of my best purchases what do you think was your worst purchases my worst purchase was my exwife facts everything I bought for her that was my worst purchase yeah but I'm I'm about to go on my run I I've been I did it but I'm about to go on my run of my best purchases and my make my mistakes financially and all that my whole time with the money like we had mad bread but it's like I ain't I want to get it how how I supposed to had it you know what I'm saying well I mean I've asked this question with most of the sports players that I've interviewed I've interviewed over 100 over the years and I've always heard the same thing a typical NBA locker room you got $100 million in that room easy right okay whenever I've asked someone how often are the players talking about investments in that locker room I always hear never people talk about a car they purchase they talk about a trip they talk about buying their mom a house some jewelry but no one's like Hey listen I just invested in the S&P 500 I just bought these stocks I just you got your group you got your group but as a whole you have $100 million which could be a hedge fund know while why is that because you got 10 agents controlling that conversation all 40 or or 400 of them players ah you got 10 agents controlling we supposed to be and a guy like Billy Hunter not F not being able to follow through his plan cuz Billy Hunter was up there saying we about to buy a bank for you guys wow okay yeah he was talking like that we about to buy a bank um oh guys are coming out The League early this is what I'm going do not only you going to have a 401k and your pension we GNA get you a SEP IRA a Roth account we GNA get you a bridge account they got seven eight accounts now that's why you don't hear nobody crying broke you know what I'm saying so so a bank sounds awesome though I mean because the bank could give loans to the players and everything else like that why we not hedge funding exactly that's the number why NBA players is not hedge funding right you guys can make group Investments together because you can't have that though cuz then it' be some real wealth they want they they like the perception that is real wealth it's not real wealth around the NBA that and that's I I promise you that because soon I say that someone's going to say they're going to bring up the richest dudes they're going to say LeBron got billion dollar that's one dude nobody lives in the community with him yeah you know what I'm saying so I'm advocating to open up different fields also we got too many of our kids trying to go to the NBA right when we know it's only 400 jobs and we got to realize that where that money is coming from who else lives in Lebron community and they don't they don't play basketball well yeah and when you look at what field they coming from yeah I mean when you look at LeBron also is like he's got rich Paul with him from the very beginning how many people have a rich Paul in their Corner that episode with G I think it was the last episode of last season um where G had Rich Paul on it and Rich Paul said on the interview he said that Nike had to build a business entity for them like they signed with them they built a business entity for them so what that did was that gave Rich Paul and um their positions you know what I'm saying then they Nike yeah supposed to did that for us that's how you bu it to make to make it something you know a lot of information like what Kanye had at Adidas the Yeezy unit because if not it's going to be just grouped up this is going to be grouped up here's a sneaker here's some money and then boom we're done Braun had the he got the Dre Beats right how much Braun invest it was 5 million they say something like that sounds about right five million he got back 50 yeah sold for a billion yeah so if it was a organic natural thing of us hedge funding and thinking about the next one also not to paint anything bad about Braun when it come to this because Braun responsibility as his family himself but if we change the narrative a little bit right now he would have called Chris Paul and Melo and Jello and what's the name and they would have get him 50 million and got back 500 million 600 700 million exactly so that's what we got to change in the NBA right now no one advocating for the athlete you buy yourself I told the NBA this I said when the referee got caught cheating y' came into the locker room and Y said I interviewed him we uh oh was it DN uh what's his name some what's his name Tim Tim doni when he got caught cheat and they came in the locker room they said if y'all make a comment we G to find y'all and then they came back in the locker room and said and we not telling y'all how much it is cuz they know at that point we just get the GU at making all the money like boy go say it he take the fine so they said we ain't G tell how much of this so they was protecting you know what I'm saying their brain what did you hear in that interview he said that the word would come from the top for example with Kobe to not call certain fouls and to basically lean lean the game to Kobe listen these people are paying big tickets to be on the floor seats they want to see Kobe on the on the court so don't don't call as much on him and everyone's like no that doesn't happen but it does happen specifically at certain times the NBA was favoring Kobe so what kind of message would they tell the refs in terms of you know make sure you call every foul and make sure that he's always you know you know there to to shoot extra points and so forth you know like like how how clear was was the message coming from the NBA to the refs it was very clear I never forget when Kobe was in a playoff series with the Phoenix Suns and I forget who the uh Defender was but they called him the Kobe stopper or he referred to him himself as the Kobe stopper and they would show us video of games previously of plays that fouls weren't called of this guy holding him or defending him too strongly and they wanted freedom of movement because they wanted higher scoring in these games so they would show you plays and say this was a foul that was missed and these three referees missed this play make sure you don't let this happen tonight make sure you call this when this happens and that's how they would program and train the officials and the next game to have more freedom of movement and have Kobe Bryant uh have the ability to score more points and and do well absolutely yeah absolutely um but they didn't want us to talk about him cheating because they're protecting well he's not he's not cheating but the the NBA is sort of giving him a little bit of was he taking Vegas bets who Kobe no not Kobe I'm talking about the Tim Don yeah he was doing all types of [ __ ] Tim Tim dony was cheating right so they came in the locker room said we couldn't make a comment about that this is a guy that's cheating right we can't make a comment so that's them protecting their brand right so if Antoine Walker walks inside the players union or the NBA and he says he's in debt 6 million or whatever I feel as a player we supposed to protect our brand yeah right and we a billionaire we a billion dollar you know what I'm saying industry multi-billion dollar multi- billion billion is the cost of one team would have been the last people to ever figure out that he he's in debt cuz I'm Advocate I'm I'm taking that personal he's cheating y y could have hung him that's him cheating that's not the whole NBA so I want them to protect us in the same manner and the same fashion a word we find a away his here $3 million we worked that off we you saying here a job cuz you protecting the players how many times you heard the average player go broke after five years all the time how can how could they let them sit there the whole time and let that be a narrative and being said how many times you heard that after five years the NBA player ain't got no money ain't nobody saying [ __ ] nobody say nothing yeah nobody everybody like this time nobody doing nothing that is a dub yeah not saying them being part son I'm a part of that's what I am ain't no we broke after five years no we doing businesses that's why you see Baron Davis you see Karen um Durant they got production um um stuff oh yeah people got coding lines now dudes got to start working together tap in that career going to be over you got to tap in advocate for yourself do a business pass that bread to each other that's what they doing in the other fields yeah I know Baron I I've interviewed him and I'm like you know listen a lot of players go broke how you doing he like I'm good I'm rich like me and my homies are rich like he he he right there like no we're good we didn't fall into that trap n it's not no trap it's not no trap it it is a bit of a trap it's a bit of a trap because because Wall Street a bunch of guys make $300,000 mhm and they got the same perception as they make as an NBA player right you going to make way more than 30 300,000 if you in the NBA right but what they do is when they go to dinner and they golf together whatever narrative they put together to do their [ __ ] they hedge funding together you know that that's the number one thing they doing is getting with the other guy so how could we be sitting there with like you said in the locker room how much money is in that locker room million 100 million now one hedge fund yep 300,000 they got the same cause as the these [ __ ] got 100 menli contracts so it ain't for it's not no trick it's the conversation that we're not having so yes if you're in the NBA and you get the uh yes you could go buy you some jewelry yes you could go buy a house yes you could take care of your friends yes you can go buy a [ __ ] Rolls-Royce goost yes that's Fool's goal everyone act like the players is going broke because of that that's cap you're going broke because you're not doing nothing you're not hedge funding you're not making a conversation is we got the money we got to be the ones that make more money off of it and let people make money off of us there's a story about rich Paul in Chicago tell me what happened next one next question okay fair enough your case right now you're on appeal you actually have an ankle monitor yep can can we show it on camera can you zoom in on that how long have you had that on uh like five years now four five years yeah so you can't take a bath no I could take a bath well with your leg sticking out this N I ain't doing that you can actually take it off you know I just get in the tub oh it's waterproof I thought it messed when it break they tell them come one okay but still having that that thing on your leg I'm sure is annoying five years that's longer than High School super annoying super annoying where are you at with this whole case um well I went to the pellet court right so I got blue trial um went to the appet they got me out on appeal and then I was out on pill for like a year and then that appeal they denied that appeal when when the feds popped up at the house talking about the the NBA money while I'm sitting in jail that day the lawyer was like oh and they Deni yourell for the other case I was like oh at that point I'm definitely not getting out of here but um I was one of the appell judges wrote a submission that was so strong that we was able to go back to the appell um Division and they took it to the Supreme Court so it was back there for another year then it took Supreme Court for two years Supreme Court just sent us back uh maybe two weeks ago three weeks ago and they reversed the case so your case got reversed yeah so why do you still have an ankle monitor on it should be off me soon okay it it should be me it should be up me soon I got I got to pay it off of me you got to pay it off yeah it's a Shakedown but hey it's probably the best money you've ever spent how much are they asking but now this thing right I probably pay I'll probably pay not much I'll probably probably pay like 25,000 since I had this on me on for this I'm sure you'll gladly pay that money for sure okay so within a couple of weeks you're G to get that off facts start getting back into my my get back you could actually get on a plane because you've been they've kept you in New York this whole time yep Five Barrels right unlike aboy who does shows all over the place it's hard to justify your current job to have to travel to different states and stuff like that my current job was out of the country so they you know they took my passport right I would have still been playing in China step played until you 41 oh so for the past five years you could have been playing in China no I'm 38 right now for the past seven years I got stopped on 2017 so for seven years you lost could been in China my contract millions of dollars L over 10 million for sure of salary damn for sure of salary damn for for a case that's reversed for a case that's reversed not like you can sue him you can sue him for the money either I don't know all that but yeah we's see well Sebastian man um appreciate you coming in we've been talking about doing this for a while and I've been following your story um you know regardless of the trials and tribulations that you went through out of everyone around you you grew up with man you got to really experience life at the highest levels you got to play with the best players on Earth you went straight out of high school into the pros um you know you don't got you know you didn't win any championships unfortunately but a lot of times that doesn't depend on the player you know I I interview Dominique Wilkins who's considered one of the best but he doesn't have any rings either cuz it's like hey yeah a lot of pieces have to fit together and there's a lot of luck we'll talk about that next that's a form of control also that Championship [ __ ] is a form of control yeah tell you the truth F yeah I mean look look at alen Iverson you know what I'm saying another all-time great that just doesn't have any rings unfortunately Charles Barkley like we can keep going Onan what does that mean well what it means is that it doesn't take away from the greatness of the players just because they don't have it does though depends on who looks the way the narrative is I I watched it I'll be watching them speak and the depend like even Charles Barkley that's his whole thing he didn't win the championship Shaq gets him on that yeah but we got to change the narrative we not there for no championships we trying to get some real wealth for us true right now we don't have no real wealth we can't you know what I'm saying these dudes that you see with these contracts they can't take you back to their community and to show you brick that they built you know what I'm saying I'm here we we got to get on that championships stop playing bro no you're right because that's the whole thing every time who won most championship like bro we not really winning out here in America we trying to make the basketball make sense if everybody going to focus on the basketball let's make it make sense it's not really making sense right now facts I mean like look at for example what's happening in Saudi Arabia yeah in the whole golf game they were like [ __ ] it we're going to compete against y'all we're going to pay the best players more money than everyone else and we're going to actually start to eclipse the Monopoly that y'all have had facts for a 100 years facts and facts imagine if all the players got together and said okay [ __ ] the NBA we're going to start our own league and we're gonna we have enough money to just I'm not I'm not here for that either I'm not I'm not saying [ __ ] the NBA I'm saying is we just got to change the conversation and I'm saying it's not enough stuff being built for for all of us to focus on the basketball grown ass men look worried about the games for all of us to come on bro it's not enough it's not enough it's not enough like when you really go into the communities I don't really feel it I want to be able to feel it and I didn't I didn't get my 2300 million yet but if I have got two 300 million I I showed you my statue in my project right now facts I would have showed you instead of me showing you one gym that we built in five basketball of course I would have showed you five buildings feel me Stefon pretty much did that in China but you didn't want to be in China you want to be in America Stefon Marberry got statues in China right bro I'm right you know what I'm saying he's the king over there but he had to go to a whole different part of the planet in order to do it Steph that's what's up but I'm talking about right here on the land talking about right here people that look like me you know what I'm saying you stop it stop it like stop playing with me yeah no I feel you man I feel you and you're right stop and you can't can you cash that in over there how much that's worth I'm on that time I got a bunch of family I got a bunch of I got all my nieces I got my studio right there on mermaid all my nieces knock on the door uh everybody Christmas everybody you feel me we out here I don't got time to talking about no statues and all of that we got to trying to make some big business moves look at you look at yourself lad you put your your production [ __ ] together look at you you got more you got more money than the athletes let's talk about that one let me tell you you got more money than the athletes bro we want my whole Community you my whole culture my whole culture is focusing on saying like bro with a laptop bro and a pen you could run past that NBA [ __ ] John Sally lives down the street for me facts he lives half a block he goes to my house I go to his house John Sally's a he's a he he need to speak up more he need to advocate for the athlete more because he's one of the guys that stayed working and stayed doing his thing you know what I'm saying Joe Smith shout out to Joe Smith um get up let's go tap into with the other athletes it's it's something something out there for you to do tell your story I'm not here for the athletes hanging their head I'm not here saying that you can't talk your [ __ ] because we see you had a jersey before you can still talk your [ __ ] like let's go and everybody not going to win no Championship I hate that [ __ ] I hate that Championship [ __ ] I watch the games and they talk about Westbrook like oh they look how they did Mello was the point for Melo to get his family out the out the projects and take care of himself and build the Legacy or was it about a championship cuz now they got tables that it seems like he can't sit at CU he don't got a championship well being a New York Knicks for that long you know what I'm saying unfortunately team it is BR unfortunately the Knicks for whatever reason have never what the last championship was 73 you know what I'm saying you have a superstar player unfortunately on a team that I feel has never built up properly around him I was feing for Zion to get to the Knicks imagine if Zion has some of these little struggles he's having like with his weight with he's at the G they would have made that a [ __ ] huge deal right mean the biggest stage super stages the the the person that's goingon to win a championship for the Knicks is my son he's two years old tomorrow okay congratulations my son yeah bass he tell he gonna win a championship for the Knicks until then it's clipped that's what it is man Sebastian tare man appreciate you coming in man and you know look you just getting started you're still young as hell you're about to get that ankle monitor off yeah you're doing your thing yeah you know what I mean there's still a long long long story ahead of you man I'm looking forward to hearing it appreciate it what it is thanks peace

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Published: Sun Jan 28 2024