[Music] welcome back to Harbor onbox today we're taking a look at another product that I don't know why are we even doing this I can't take it anymore guys I am starting to lose it I can't reveiew another product that doesn't make sense or doesn't offer anything new it's been like 2 years now make it stop but before you do today's sponsor spot is brought to you by Asus and their latest range z790 motherboards supporting 12th 13th and 14th generation Intel core processors for those of you seeking a budget friendly option one of our favorite z790 motherboards is the tough gaming z790 Plus available in either ddr4 or ddr5 variants with and without Wi-Fi there's also the recently updated version called the tough gaming z790 Pro featuring ddr5 exclusively but for those of you seeking something a bit more high-end we've tested a number of excellent z790 stricks Sports and for my personal gaming system I'm using the Rog STX z790 F gaming Wi-Fi Which packs loads of usb3 ports PD 3.13 W 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been for over 20 years now I mean we are here to review nvidia's new GeForce RTX 480 super which you'd assume is a special version of the original RTX 480 but really it's basically just the original RTX 480 with a much needed price cut so why call it the RTX 480 Super Why Not Just announce an official price cut for the RTX 480 and call it a day well you might think that's because Nvidia doesn't officially discount their products but that's not the case at all the RTX 470 for example just received an official price cut from $600 to $550 to make way for the 470 super so they were willing to do it for the RTX 470 but for some reason not the 4080 instead they've reworked the RTX 480 to create the 480 super using the full a103 silicon which means you get a slight increase in corat with faster memory so then the 40 super is a new product well technically yeah it is but in reality also not really and last week we saw just how underwhelming the RTX 4072 super performance uplift was but compared to what we're getting here the ti super was kind of a big deal that's because the RTX 480 super delivers a 5% increase in cause a 2% frequency boost and memory that is clocked 3% higher all said and done you can expect up to a 5% performance increase in video's told us to expect around 3% and everything else remains pretty well the same so that means you're getting the same vram capacity and all that other good stuff of course the big change here is the price Nvidia has reduced the MSRP from $1,200 us with the original 480 to $1,000 us for this new super version so that's good but realistically Nvidia were forced to do this anyway the RTX 480 wasn't that popular at $1,200 us and Midway through the product cycle sales were pretty dead so then I guess the question is is a 177% price cut and a very minor bump in performance enough to revive the RTX 480 well to find out we're skipping all of the individual game benchmarks as the data is super boring pun intended there and instead we're going to dive into the 12 game average data and then look at cost per frame rate tracing all that sort of stuff as a as an average so let's go do that we'll start with the 1080p data because why not we have it though of course a lot of the games here were CPU Limited in any case we see that on average the 4080 super is 2% faster than the original original 480 making it just 2% slower than the 7900 XTX but let's move on to the 1440p results at 40 and 40p the 480 super is just 3% faster than the original 480 and nid told is well ahead of time to expect around a 3% uplift so they we're right on the money there they also stress that this release is really all about that new $11,000 us MSRP finally at the 4K resolution the 4080 super is 4% faster than the original 480 though this did mean it was 9% slower than the 7900 XTX and 24% slower than the RTX 490 so for strictly rasterization performance AMD still has a slight performance lead with the 7900 XTX so let's take a look at rate tracing as you can see ra tracing performance does remain an issue for AMD and with a mixture of titles the 7900 XTX averaged 77 FPS at 1440p making the 480 super 31% faster that's a massive performance difference now here's a look at the MSRP cost per Frame data based on the rasterization numbers when compared to the original 480 this new super version is 19% better value thanks to slightly better performance and of course a $200 discount but as we found with the other super refresh models the 4080 super is really what the 480 should have been when it was first released back in late 2022 and highlighting just how poor Val the original 480 was and still is is the retail pricing data the 19% Improvement in value for the 480 super still sees it situated towards the bottom of our graph but at least it's matching what the 4070 TI delivers which I suppose isn't great but for a high in GeForce 40 series GPU it's also about as good as it gets and I wasn't wrapped with the 470 TI super but honestly having now seen what the 480 super has to offer it doesn't seem all that that bad at least there you got the upgrade to 16 GB of vram for the 480 super to match the value of the 470 TI super it would need to cost no more than $940 us but I guess there has to be some kind of Premium associated with that 480 series branding also as underwhelming as the $1,000 480 super looks here it does still manage to out compete the $980 7900 xdx despite costing 6% more per frame and I say this because the additional features of the GeForce GPU which I will talk about a bit later on the video make the 480 super a better deal in our opinion stuff like rate tracing performance and higher quality upscaling speaking of R tracing here's a look at the cost per frame based on our 10 game average data at 1440p of course using Road tracing previously the 1700 XTX offered similar value to the RTX 480 despite being a little over 20% slower on average but with the updated pricing the 4080 super is over 20% better value than the 7900 XTX and in fact even the much cheaper previous generation radium Parts can't hold a candle to the value of the 4080 super here finally let's take a look at the cost per Frame data calculated using the 4K results and again we'll start with the msrps just to see where things should be and have these current generation models compared to previous generations previously at 4 40p we found that the 4080 super was just 3% more costly per frame than the 7900 XTX but now at 4K the results further favor the Radeon GPU as it's now 9% better value so at least relative to the 7900 XTX the 480 super does better at 1440p then if we look at the current retail pricing we see the 480 super is 12% more costly per frame when compared to the radon GPU so for those of you interested purely in rasterization performance perance this is the point where we feel that the 7900 XTX starts to become a viable option so that is to say when it's offering more than a 10% discount in terms of cost per frame so there you have it the RTX 480 is now 3 to 4% faster and it costs $200 us less so it's all positive in that sense but is it enough after 14 months as I said earlier this really is what the RTX 480 should have been from the start and and even then it would have only been really a very Mild improvement over the RTX 380 for it to be a true generational uplift it would need to cost no more than $800 so that explains why the RTX 480 was so poorly received upon launch and ultimately didn't sell that well of course Nvidia is none too phased given the demand AI has generated for their gpus they really lucked it out the moment crypto went bust the question Still Remains though is a 1,000 RTX 480 an attractive option in early 2024 I asked this because I suspect most who wanted this level of performance already pulled the trigger on a 480 at $1,200 us or got the 7900 XTX for $1,000 so I'm not really sure if those who have been holding out all this time for something better are going to jump on a $1,480 but I suppose if you are in the market for a high in GPU and your can accommodate for an RTX 480 super or 7900 XTX you're probably asking yourself which one should you get for me the 480 super it's a pretty easy pick here given that they both do cost around $11,000 us and look it's easy enough to downplay stuff like R tracing and upscaling as key selling points on GeForce gpus that are priced below $500 US and I don't mean we got of a way to do so rather they've proven to be questionable features when looked at in depth for example lower and GeForce gpus such such as those in the 4060 series offer a heavily compromised raate tracing experience both in terms of visual quality and the frame rate performance moreover upscaling doesn't work that well at 1080p the quality is quite poor as there simply isn't enough pixel data to work with but for high-end products that can provide frame rates North of 60 FPS while making heavy use of rate traced effects in games such as cyber Punk it does become a key selling point or at least it can be depending on your preferences likewise because you're able to game at at least 40 40p or really you'd probably be gaming at 4K upscaling becomes a useful tool as it works considerably better at higher resolutions and it really is quite fantastic at 4K so you can lean much more heavily on nvidia's Superior rate racing performance and upscaling quality when comparing the 480 super to amd's radon RX 7900 XTX as it stands the radon GP is just 10% better value based on our 4K rasterization data which means it really needs to drop down to at least $900 and even then a lot of Gamers will easily justify the $100 premium to take advantage of raid tracing and dlss so it'll be very interesting to see if AMD makes a much needed pricing correction really to their entire radon lineup but in this context very much need to make a correction there to the 17900 XTX and yeah now the uh RTX 480 super officially cost $1,000 us uh let me know what you think about this particular produ for $1,000 us do you think it's a good deal uh if you are holding out has this entire student hour going by what is essentially an RTX 480 after a 14mon wait or are you just holding out for the next Generation in the hope that that actually improve stuff like cost per frame so let me know about that in the comment section below and I'll be sure to to read your feedback also don't forget to like the video subscribe for more content and if you'd like to support us directly we have float plan patreon signing up to either one of those things we give you access to our exclusive Discord server for members only uh monthly live stream for members only Q&A stuff behind the scenes content a lot of cool things there so check it out if you're interested but if not that is perfectly fine and I would like to thank you for watching this video I'm your host Steve see you again next time [Music] [Music]
