"Neuralink can be used for gaming" - 2020 Presentation First Impressions

hello virtual dreamers gregory here and uh yeah this video is going to be a very quick one because i really really wasn't hoping to have to record this this quickly but i do want to make sure to get my impressions out as early as possible on the neuralink presentation that just recently went by how recent at the time that i'm recording this very clip it is i believe 8 17 p.m and uh by the way i'm going to be using my ipad here today because i took notes during the viewing of the presentation i just did and i want to just give you guys my overall first impressions on what was said uh some of the dissections on understanding of what was going on there so this is going to be a pretty long one because of course it was a pretty long presentation i'm hoping to do another video sometime next week where i managed to cut this down and abbreviate it into a much more digestible form factor since we're going to be getting into a lot and i mean a lot of technical mumbo jumbo that if you aren't a biologist if you aren't an engineer if you aren't a technician if you didn't go to college or but we actually screwed the college part uh if you just don't know about the stuff in general it's going to sound like i'm talking another language which i mean if you want me to do like okay joking aside let's just uh dig right into what the presentation is about for anyone who might not be aware uh neural link is elon musk's virtual well not virtual reality his uh brain computer interface company their initial mission seems to have been based around the idea of helping humanity uh evolve basically or transcend their limitations of current flesh in order to better integrate with computers because of the concerns he initially had over the possibility of things such as artificial intelligence managing to rise up and take over humanity depending on whether or not that happens what you think either is here or there point is neurolink is developing brain computer interface technology so in theory using their technology you should be able to connect say your brain to your gaming computer a tablet a let's see if i got it yep smartphone or basically any other computer that actually pops up as a question during the presentation but i'll get back into that in a little moment anyhow they started off the presentation by explaining their purpose behind the presentation and that is recruitment i repeat the purpose behind the presentation was not to sell you a product it was not to explain how they're revolutionizing the world their main goal is to recruit people to the company later on in the presentation they explain that they currently have around 100 or so people working at eurolink which i'm actually kind of surprised that's a fairly low number of people considering the kind of research and development they're doing so it's definitely a pretty grassroots still early on in its development so their expectation to have somewhere in the realm of 10 000 or more employees at some point i feel is more than reasonable all things considered when you take into consideration that we're talking about a company that is dealing brain computer interfaces like that to this it's yeah you're gonna need some real muscle or i guess in this case brain power to get things taken care of pun totally intended but uh yeah their main goal is recruitment so keep that in mind as we're discussing some of the points that they discussed during this video or during their presentation because again that's their intent we have to think about what they're going for because the way they speak is going to be influenced by that goal so let's get into the first thing that they kind of mentioned which was the kind of things that neurolink could be used for they cited a bunch of mental illnesses or ailments that they believe that neurolink would be capable of assisting with things such as memory loss uh immobility um let's see what else just general mind condition stuff so you know memory loss mobility seizures impairment in any other way blindness deafness sensory issues you can kind of cover cover a lot of this stuff with blanket statements so that's the reason why i'm kind of struggling here but in particular they're basically just saying neural link is capable of handling just about all of that which it's a brain computer interface it's directly interfacing with your brain one would hope that would be the long-term intent insofar as increasing fidelity and continuing to get better in their technology so that's kind of the comes with the realm you know it comes with the job basically so you better expect that kind of stuff so um moving on to the next part which was pretty exciting actually uh they showed off what the neurolink actually looks like it's like a tiny little coin sized looking thing around i think 27 millimeters so that's around 2.7 centimeters or around you know around three three centimeters like the tip of my finger right here in this video maybe a little smaller and uh it's around the side it's a little coin looking thing it has uh the neural lace sticking out of it uh they had it connected up to a small little piece plate thingy in order to make sure that all the threads didn't go anywhere which anyone has ever worked with like you know tiny little threads you know that they kind of go all over the place if you um don't have them grounded to something but uh yeah they were showing off the device and i think it's a pretty neat expansion of what they were doing before and i kind of liked that they changed up their interface because if you water breaks uh you can't eat them because yeah i'm not going to talk a whole 30 minutes without kind of clearing my throat here and there but uh yeah basically with the coin sized form factor they've changed from the initial intent which was to have something kind of behind your ear and they're just going with like a small little circular implant which honestly i think this kind of speaks to maybe a change in philosophy because i remember early on when they were discussing neural ace they were basically describing it as this technology that would almost fan out and spread across your brain almost by itself and based on the newer robot designs they have and the strategy that they're going for it seems that they're kind of backtracking on that a little bit and moving more towards the direction of having neural lace be directly implanted right over the area where it's going to be needed so say you have to access a part of the brain that's right up here you would implant the hole right there if it's over here it would be right there they specifically mentioned that depending on the location on your body where they end up having to put the neural lace it could be completely invisible so for somebody like me if they were to make the small hole here if the hair were to grow back later you basically wouldn't notice it or if you had nice flowy hair you could basically just cover it up kind of like a comb over or something well yeah that doesn't actually make it sound all that nice oh anyhow the newer form factor in my opinion is definitely an improvement since it means that you get more direct access and because of it they actually changed up the methods or at the very least as far as i know they've changed up the methods for interaction so it is battery powered it should last just about all day and it should have an overnight charging system using an induction charger which for anyone wondering that's basically what manages to charge your phones wirelessly so imagine having something that you just attached to your head at night and that would like slowly and steadily charge it or crazier yet one of those like long distance wireless charger things that are kind of appearing they're terribly inefficient but hey at the very least it'd be kind of a cool way to charge you without having to stick a cable in your head now every every day would you anyhow that's more or less the changes that have occurred in the form factor so definitely an interesting improvement and uh in addition we also have uh some more information on the kind of uses and its actual design if you looked at it the format seems to be like a little disc containing electronics so just judging by it they seem to have a strong circuit board that has all the chips and all that and they have the electric the layer that kind of releases all the electrodes and connects with everything and uh based on the way they described it this thing is i mean the way they described it directly was basically it's like a fitbit you install in your brain and uh i'd say if you had to get an even better metaphor it's basically like a smart watch you install in your brain and just judging by the size it basically is that i mean the special thing here is not going to be the computer or the actual you know hardware in terms of the computation for neural link that's not particularly special beyond everything that happens in so far as their ecog or electric cartography mechanism is concerned electrocortography basically just refers to using electrodes or you know parts of electrical circuits that connect to non-conductors and uh yeah it basically just means using that to connect to your brain or to connect to your body so electrocartography is basically the inside of your brain version of eeg which tries to do so at the scalp electro cartography skips the scalp and drills into your brain so that you can uh directly access the parts that you're going for it is a order of magnitude more accurate than eeg which we recently just had a you know heart-to-heart talk about the limitations of eeg and the ways that you really shouldn't be expecting too much of it but electrocartography is very different darpa you know us military has used this technology for high-end prosthetic applications in the past and they have shown very tangible results now are these results possibly mixed in and interspersed with other things we're going to find out about that in a little bit but so far at the very least their solution involves having it spread out and connect to a computer system and they describe some of the functionalities of that computer and in some respects depending on who you are that might sound impressive you know the whole oh we can play music and gather this and that and that guys we don't pay attention to that aspect of the discussion that is pure fluff you can get music on just about everything i can literally build a smart toilet paper roll if that's what you want that's how commonplace and accessible these electronics are they mentioned it towards the end of the presentation but for the most part one of the ways that they're driving costs down for neurolink is by leveraging a lot of the available chips and technology from smartphones and other smart applications and using it with neural links so basically they're just gonna take your smart watch and shove it in your brain instead of having it uh in on your body so depending on who you are that might sound cool might sound scary yeah i'll let you be the judges of that so uh just kind of continuing on with my notes here uh oh also worth noting it does have a gyroscope which everything nowadays just saw it has a gyroscope so in theory if anyone's wondering could this be used for virtual reality applications um first off anything that's a computer can be used in virtual reality if you connect it properly and this thing has bluetooth so of course but this is actually a very useful function for virtual reality because having a gyroscope built in means that you have another gyroscope to utilize alongside of your virtual reality headset or possibly being able to use it for augmented reality since now you won't have to install that in your glasses because your brain already has it so interesting thought right there elon now let's see oh cancel something uh let's see it's implanted the method in which you're getting this because remember it is inside of your brain this is not a nerve gear everybody this is going inside so more of a neurolink or kind of a thing but anyway the way that this works is essentially they have a robot that drills a hole in your head kind of peels away the skin and then uses a very precise and delicate mechanism to directly implant each one of the small electrodes into the spot of the brain that it's supposed to be and it does this with such precision that it can avoid the microscopic veins and blood vessels and other sorts of things that could potentially bleed out as a result of this process that was actually very impressive to me because you have to think about this every tiny little mistake they can make here can be very very bad for you because remember you know what we call when your brain starts bleeding somewhere you usually call that some form of a stroke or at the very least it causes a stroke because yeah you know because you know you don't generally don't want your brain to uh bleed any of things because you know when you start losing blood up there you really rapidly start doing this thing called dying so uh yeah it's very good that they're finding early on are at the very least even at this stage ways to avoid that possibility from happening so definitely good on your link team keep up the good work there and making sure that everything is safe but in essence their hope is to have this be almost fully automated which i'm a little iffy on that i mean i'm not too sure i'd want to go to you know home depot or walmart or something to get my brain implant but at the very least in the presence of medical professionals or at the very least some other form of staff available to help you out in the event of technical failures because remember we're dealing with artificial intelligence sophisticated machines and mechanisms things break the reason that we're making machines is because they generally break less than humans or at the very least they're able to do more before they break than humans so in this case you always want to keep that into consideration this is probably going to be highly automated but at the same time they're probably going to keep medical professionals involved and their claim of you know going in getting the surgery coming out no pain i actually kind of believe that to an extent because there really aren't pain sensors up here i mean you can do a lot of stuff there but usually the pain that actually happens is just tangential through other aspects of your actual brain because there's no need for pain sensors in your brain because by the time something's up there you're probably already dying so yeah it's kind of an inefficient pointless thing why bother putting something when you're already dead it's like yeah no point in worrying about it anyway um yeah the technology seems to be pretty interesting the way that you're kind of planning it i was already impressed with this from last year just the fact that they have such precision with tiny things but i've been increasingly uh amazed by some of the things we're doing in terms of precision in general like with 3d printers and stuff so at this point i can kind of see where they're going with this and it's definitely a nice trend that i'd like to see continue going forward into the coming decades which uh another little aspect because once we got past the implanting came the pigs oh yeah linkers all showed up in this presentation we got three of the guys dirty little buddies but that means they're happy anyhow those three pigs over there they were used to demonstrate quite a few things actually some very engaging things the very first one and the one that impressed me the least was that the pigs could be happy and healthy with their implants i mean again i'm not particularly impressed because you know we had gigantic boxes sticking out of people's brains with before neuro lakes so we kind of know we can stick things up there and it won't be an issue um the more impressive thing and the thing that caught my attention and i really really like oh my freaking god i want numbers numbers because the next thing that happened with those freaking pigs was they had them walking on treadmills and you know what that got me going because when you have pigs walking on treadmills and you saw those data points and apparently he says that they were highly accurate to the movement locations of the pig's muscles i was like please numbers give me the numbers give us elon if you ever watch this presentation please put out a paper or something give the community something to work with because you can't just freaking say it's highly accurate and not expect us to lose our cool because the difference between 95 accurate 90 percent accurate and 99 accurate and 99.99999 percent accurate matters in this context because i could say hey ninety percent is very accurate yeah ninety percent is very accurate we've achieved over that at some points with eeg and yet eeg is still garbage for most motion control tasks why because you generally want your movement and or input mechanism to be very reliable there's a reason why we like to use buttons over touch screens for a lot of things because buttons are consistent this phone i have only has three buttons the power button volume up and volume down why would you make power a button wouldn't you use something capacitive no because capacitive things can bit buggy they mess up and i hate it when i have to use a touchscreen for things sometimes because the software might be slow or it might be lagging a button no a button's a simple mechanism it keeps the connection going or it stops the connection no muss no fuss that's all it is and it's all because of that supreme simplicity unless your button is like literally decades old or has some kind of flaw in the design where it can either close the connection or open the connection without you wanting it such as if you get a bit of dust stuck under the button or something or maybe you got a bit of food or something on your key but in essence when you have something 100 reliable you know that you don't have to question it i don't have to question whether my arm is going to move the way i want it to it does exactly what i want it to 100 percent of the time just as when i'm pressing a controller input it does exactly what i want it to 100 of the time the goal when it comes to i'd say brain computer interfaces for a gaming application which that comes up later we're going to get into that is at the very minimum i'd say for you know gamers not for pardon you know going to be a little intensive part not for people who are impaired because you know for you guys there's there's obviously different standards we need to keep that into context but for gamers the starcraft crowd they mention you will not accept it if your controls mess up two percent of the time you may think you do but when you jump off a cliff or when you have to constantly be dealing with issues you know you won't anyhow getting into a little bit of detail what was discussed during that little presentation bit they actually mentioned that they had uh the snout being detected very heavily that it's a region that has a lot of activity whatever it's in utilization which i can imagine pigs have very refined noses overall they're able to really get a lot done with those things so it makes sense that their brain dedicates a lot of you know itself or its activity in order to picking that up but for a moment there i actually got a little worried because how should i put this the nose is kind of close you know to the brain right there and generally whenever i hear stuff like say oh you can pick up like eye motion or mouth motion using eeg yeah that's not eeg anymore that's emg so for a second i was getting kind of concerned like elon are you kind of are you are y'all trying to pull that old fast one that i keep seeing y'all know the fast one the one where they'll present e m g in based results but kind of presented as though the eeg is doing the job because there's a very big difference and when i say very big i made an analogy in the last this type of video that we did where uh trying to read brain information using an eeg was like trying to figure out where a piece of plankton is in the ocean using uh based on the ripples of the surface yeah the difference between trying to analyze your brain versus trying to analyze a muscle or a nerve is like going from the ocean to like a cup or a drop of water yeah you heard me going from the ocean to a cup or a drop of water that's how big the difference is because it is i repeat simple elon mentions it towards the end but nerves are like wires in your body and the wire is a very simple construct electricity to point a to point b it goes along the wire that's all it does and that's what we want in terms of simplicity because it means that we don't have to start thinking about decoding a second computer using a first computer yeah it says okay this is this is going out there and that's actually one of the things that i've been kind of curious about now because this is the second time now that i've now i've been thinking about this honestly since like 2014 because it's been bugging me for a while and since then because if you look at the motor cortex the region of our brain that kind of is used to basically that directly sends signals towards our muscles or the very least does the processing for them it's like right along this band i'm going through right here it's like almost like a little bit of a headband thing and it's like that sliver right there is where almost all of our brain activity is going the very tip top is supposedly the legs and as you go down it actually kind of gets closer so it's a little bit flipped upside down relative to your own body but it fascinated me because it's all right there on the surface it's like right along there and you can get very like really good data on motion from that and i'm very curious because between elon and gabe newell that is now two if as well as you know my own suspicions but that's now three i guess two or three good reasons to have a very good close look at like the surface layer of information promoter information on the brain just because it's right there and i really want to see like way more development on this because depending on again the accuracy those numbers it really makes a difference here people depending on the numbers we see it can really decide whether or not i would revise my own opinion on when we would expect like say not full immersion i'm still i'd still put the earliest my own personal expectations maybe 15 20 30 years from now but in terms of like motor control for like quadriplegics that's significant you know the starcraft level that at that point i could imagine happening like 10 to 15 years but again the numbers are very weird and again the devil's in the details because we're talking about a guy that loves you elon i love the man he's one of my personal heroes i've read his biography i watch all of his videos occasionally i'll go through one of those compilations of like elon roasting people or elon's like you know sad moments and successes and all that stuff he's a huge inspiration of mine but anyway um yeah as much as i love the guy punctuality yeah this presentation was late so if he says long term i did this in the last year's video and i'm going to say it and i'm just going to kind of reiterate on this right now and probably going to read it again like a week in there from now anyway but uh yeah when the guy who expects to be on mars in like 10 to 15 years says it's gonna take a long time it's cause for you know considering things anywho um yeah just kind of moving forward a little bit more the next part was also very fascinating this was about a two-photon microscopy and they were explaining how they're able to shoot electrons basically or photons or something along those lines i gotta really i actually need to take some time to look into this because i don't want to tell you guys about something i don't completely know about but the general demonstration they were showing there was more or less the ability to fire an electro electrode off or to really stimulate a region and get a response from roughly a thousand neurons which i mean you can consider that impressive i mean you really can but i can tell you another way i can stimulate billions of neurons you know what i know a way to stimulate every neuron in my brain at the same time you know what i would do i would get a taser and stick it in my brain in this case the smaller the number the better and going from stimulating you know a and whatever that's the reason why you have to be careful here because depending on who you are you hear the number a thousand neurons that's impressive no no we want smaller numbers smaller is better here of course we're talking about using around a thousand or so uh channels or in other words connectors because that's actually another thing we're gonna discuss about the neuro uh the neuralink hardware but basically they have around a thousand connectors and the ability to manipulate roughly the thousand or so neurons around the connectors definitely good for fidelity but we're definitely we want to get a little bit more on that one i'd say i mean the ideal would be individual neurons but at the same time i'm not too sure whether or not we'd be that'd be reasonable because this is kind of getting into the whole nanometer level thing where the smaller you get the higher the density is and the more ridiculous the problem can become because if we have right now without a thousand or so uh channels if we reach the point where we're going for individual neurons like what kind of connections are we talking about here like what kind of precision what kind of activation how is it going to happen how's it going to roll so it's going to be this is definitely something to watch the thousand neuron precision i would have liked some reference on what kind of results we've got in other areas because again thousand neurons sound super impressive unless we have con without but without contact we're not really working with much here but um so again not 100 of an expert on this particular area but thousand neurons big number not impressive but personally to me if you ask me do i did i find that good i found it pretty good i'd say it'd be great if we could get that down to even smaller so the scientists could really drill on precision and for anyone who's wondering about projects like you know mapping the brain and all that this this is where that comes in handy because when you have a good map of the brain now you can use neural link properly because if you know where you're going it doesn't really matter too much whether or not you have the entire brain covered because you can just pick and choose which points you need and then stick the electrode on that point so if you don't if say you go to a store and you need x y and z like i need to get milk eggs and bread i'm not going to go and get cereal then no i'm going to go get my milk onion bread and that's what we're kind of trying to do here we want to get it so we can just get our milk and bread without being upsold hey you have to buy chicken along with that uh with those eggs and you also have to buy uh this chocolate pack with your milk it's like no no we just want our milk egg and cheap we just wanna yeah you know you know yeah you look like bread or something whatever i'm losing the analogy but anyway we just want that and when you have the map that's what you get to do you can specifically point at something and then get that result so it's definitely an area where again all you can't just have one thing we need the neuroscience we need the engineering we need the computers we need every aspect this is a team effort there's no one person doing this whole job we need everybody on deck so don't be worried if you're like a computer scientist right now you're thinking i'm not going to get to work on neuroscience you're like no elon just freaking asked you to work on your link buddy so you get your butt out there yeah you're hearing me let's get to work and uh let's see the next uh element that they kind of discussed here past the uh oh also important thing to note that two point uh let me just look up the thing again uh that two photon microscopy thing yeah it's per electrode so they have a thousand 24 points so if you do the math more or less that means they have control of roughly a million or so neurons which again big number we don't give a damn we need precision but again 1024 points of connection with the brain where you can both read and write that whole nominations or granting by the fda of revolutionary slash uh what was it called i'm trying to remember the exact phrasing i think i haven't written down some here but uh game changer or something technology yeah basically that nomination that they were given by the fda is well warranted because now we're talking read and write in a standardized product that's game changing that is uh breakthrough that's the word i was thinking i don't know i had a game in mind no obviously i think i know i had game in mind but yeah it was a breakthrough technology so uh yep they kind of reiterated on some of the uh good old points over here uh let's see all day battery life overnight charging connects to your phone because again i think fia fia from the tv from tv rs the virtual reality show actually asked us could you use neural link with your brain uh in this case fia when it comes to neural link it uses bluetooth so thanks to bluetooth any device that is bluetooth enabled can theoretically be used with neural links so my tablet here my phone a computer just about anything can communicate that's actually the wonder with computer technology as long as you have a interface that is universal enough you should be able to connect with just about anything in theory you can even force things that aren't supposed to be connected together to work together if you're smart enough hashtag michael reeves hashtag drill chime but uh yeah you can basically turn anything smart and or connect them to other to one another if you have enough software and hardware skills so yeah i'd say uh considering talking good ol elon yeah there's plenty of that to work around here all right i'm gonna move on to the next point here again we're gonna have a full nice clean sliced video version of this sometime next week with uh the marcus doll avatar as well as some you know editing and all that and my points better clarified after i've taken more time to rewatch the presentation think through some more things and maybe get an overall message to give you guys but uh right now we're just going through some raw raw information and actually at this point they kind of finished with their core representation which i mean this is brain sex so this does take a while to really develop but i personally think that they went rarely they've been improving very well so i can definitely say if anyone's wondering is eurolink stagnating or anything like that no they are doing great work they're progressing much faster than i was expected uh expecting uh i still need some more concrete numbers i'm kind of mixed because there are there were some things they said here that were fluff and i still think are fluff and that we need more numbers and more accurate information and i understand if they may not want to give that out because of competitors and stuff like that but at the same time i could say i have a high accurate high accuracy eeg but if it's 90 it's we're not playing game it's just not good we need we need the numbers to get context and without that context we're just not and they dodged a few questions i'm gonna i'm gonna drill into them for that for this one because uh yeah they completely dodged the the mother load of questions here but uh once we got into the questioning stage somebody asked about uh spike detection and how it worked which if you remember the point in the presentation where they had like the beeping sound which was reflecting the uh activity that was or the information that was being sent out by neurolink in the computer to the computer system uh they asked how those were being made and uh in this case they said that they were using online spike detection which for anyone who doesn't know the difference between online and offline offline essentially means that they're just kind of processing things after the fact so the information is being taken stored somewhere or at the very least just left there and then being processed in this case by being online it is doing things in real time now of course being online in that respect does mean that there are some limitations you can't really use past future information all simultaneously at once because the future still hasn't happened yet so you do have to detect things and analyze them on the fly it is much more difficult and the second thing is it does also limit the range of analysis that you can do because all you have to go off of is those up and downs and you can't really go off of a huge broader picture without some really sophisticated hardware and by that point you're going to start running into the limitations of bandwidth with neurolink which is actually an important thing to note the neural links output through bluetooth is using compressed information so think of it almost like using an mp3 versus lossless audio the raw information in all likelihood would have to require some form of either proprietary or specialized wired connection because uh bluetooth just doesn't have enough information to carry the amount of data that they need to in that situation and i'm not too sure whether or not you'd want to uh that's been an issue with neural based technology in the past i remember with the uh uh thalmic labs myo actually it was that armband thing that i talked about in my 2014 virtual reality rig video but um that actually had a little bit of a kerfuffle where people were kind of mad that they weren't providing the raw information which i mean it's kind of understandable because raw is hard to work with not everyone's going to work with it and generally the little spike data is much more easy to deal with for say programmers or something something along those lines but either way the uh the information was still relatively useful and it's using an interesting process where it's able to kind of recognize or look for patterns in real time using its own onboard chip so the way it seems to be doing things is it already is capable of analyzing like you know the changes in fluctuation because for anyone who's wondering what is an electrode and what it's doing it's a voltmeter that that's the simplest way i can put it you know what i have i'm right here on my desk uh let me see if i have it uh yeah perfect uh this if you don't know what it is this is a multimeter this is capable of detecting various different electrical properties and activities and things so right now it sets off it has a dc voltage mode ac voltage which there is a difference your uh resistance and milliamperes so if you i just heard me say a bunch of words and just said basically you all you need to know is that the electrodes here are being used for the voltage one voltage is the difference in potential or charge or electro basically when one area is more positive than another electrically and uh depending on how great the difference is that determines the voltage and when you see electricity move it is because there is a difference in voltage so our brains generate those differences in voltage using action potentials which is basically like little firings off of our neurons and oh man i just know i'm losing a bunch of people through this but at the very least anyone who's keeping up with me great job thanks but um yeah in essence having each one of those uh that variance and voltage changes over time depending on how active the region is because remember we're not analyzing individual neurons if we were this would be a binary system so it would very likely be on or off but in this case it is because we're analyzing regions or whole groups of i guess a thousand or so neurons at once uh there's a bit of a gradient to it so we'll see a little bit of an up and down motion to the amount of voltage that we see measured and that gradient can be useful because depending on the region and the associated activity with it we can say oh if uh channel 2 5 8 and 30 are active then they're probably moving their arm or if channels uh 0 123 or i guess 1023 in this case because it's probably i i'm not too sure why they're using base one or zero i figured zero since you know digital programming that kind of stuff but uh yeah in all likelihood it's just going up and down in that respect and they're just trying to measure the basic spikes so that should be you know fairly reasonable that's what we expect but in this case having that extra layer of decoding and analyzing patterns right on the fly could be very useful just depending on the kind of the nature of the brain data again i would probably be well better served here if i did a bit more studying on neuroscience and ironically enough they said that you don't need to know a lot about neuroscience to get hired by uh neurolink uh i'm not too sure if i'd want to work from myself yet but anyhow if you don't know about brain stuff the internet is your friend we can learn everything nowadays thank you internet sama anyway uh yeah we can't get raw information and they do do some form of the coding the interesting part is that it is live the live information can can't be it can be provided through bluetooth but it isn't a basically compressed form factor if you want raw you're gonna have to find some form of offline way to deal with it i suspect that neural link probably has some form of storage since they mentioned music and all that stuff so in all likelihood they'll probably have some form of offline transmission but they would basically just keep a small amount of information stored that you would then go read after the fact uh next point uh they kind of reinvented it because at this point we're dealing with questions so whether it was through twitter the audience or other means uh they were being asked questions and they just needed to and they were just having like the entire team just responds to different things and uh or at least the people that were present because you know they didn't have 100 people present in their presentation that would've been a bit much but uh they kind of asked them again about the installation and it is supposed to be painless with no blood and happened under an hour you would walk in get your procedure done and get out i actually kind of would have liked if they would have gone into removal because we're all talking about getting euro link but uh i know a lot of people who would be very pissed or at the very least very heal very uncomfortable if you got a nice year old gradle in your link that's like oh this is amazing oh wait neural link gen 2 has less latency so you get better performance and now you're you know literally upgrading your brain computer interface and i feel very awkward if they said oh we can't get that out very easy or oh we're gonna have to you're gonna have to pay us a good amount like we need numbers on both sides here people this is uh things you consider you and again we're not too sure how long this stuff is going to last we assume it's going to last a long time but you know brain body computers machines very few things last a very long time with without maintenance i have yet to really encounter the thing that can go oh pardon just hit the mic but uh i have yet to encounter the thing that can last a very long time without maintenance so yeah you're definitely gonna wanna ask those kinds of questions in the future uh bandwidth let's see uh destroying movement uh i think they ah here it was this was kind of interesting when they kind of went into the bandwidth they kind of started touching on a few tangents that were uh kind of interesting they mentioned that uh in the future they're kind of hoping for the ability to restore movement in spinal patients but here's the thing that fascinated me they mentioned having a second neurolink implant for that purpose which when i heard that i was like oh oh they're kind of they're slipping they're slipping they're letting information go they're letting some of the truth in yeah that's what happens when you get asked questions you aren't working on the presentation or maybe there were there maybe there's plenty i'm i'm not going to go the conspiracy route this is what happened when you were doing it live but um yeah they were kind of slipping there and i saw something pretty interesting when they uh kind of mentioned that because if you're neurolink is good enough to pick up information and receive it now you're talking about getting a spinal connection as well it's kind of fascinating right there because you're kind of making the association that you're going to be expanding to other parts of your body and that you're also very interested in you know direct applications for that such as getting quadriplegics and tetrapletics to be able to move again and that gets interesting for me because you know you're using brain information communicating it back to your spine and all that kind of thing it's all you know fine and dandy but it makes me kind of curious about the nature of neural links objectives and how they're kind of presenting it because again the goal here was recruitment their goal was not to sell a product their goal was not to advance the medium during this presentation their goal is to recruit people and i know that putting a small little bit of a bait and switch because again it's the classic maiden switch going with ee talking about the brain when you're actually working throughout the entire system it makes me really curious what neural links plans are in terms of development of of information and technology beyond uh the draw beyond just the brain because again you would assume that if neural link were sufficient just in that one location that you wouldn't need to expand things much beyond the spinal conduction i mean i'm wondering how how far down they're talking about going or we're talking like all the way down and they mentioned near the spinal stun so that was kind of fascinating but uh yeah the bandwidth at the very least they said should be sufficient i'm not i'm trying again i'm gonna have to rewatch this presentation because i'm trying to remember exactly what the context was for uh the connection between you know bandwidth and restoring movement for spinal patients using a stunt but uh at the very least it seems that they have a sincere expectation that the amount of information they're getting from the brain is sufficient to be able to allow somebody to walk again or at least provide some kind of functionality with that so i'm very curious again at those numbers we need i want oh i should not say on record the things i would do for those numbers right now oh i really shouldn't but anyhow one of the numbers i did see was a hundred kilobits uh through 1024 channels so uh that's neither here or there i'm gonna have to go get some contacts for that it sounds significant because again a 100 kilobits a bit is about uh you know just one zero and one so 100 kilobits for uh 1024 channels that's um here and there pretty decent i'd say about actually really good that's around 10 000 points i'd say so yeah sorry i'm getting myself kind of wrapped up in the numbers here but here's the oh man this is the question that quite a few of you were probably waiting for uh twitter twitter came in clutch they asked the big one will neuralink be usable for gaming neuralink this is neurolink here's the question here's the question going towards oh oh oh oh neurolink just dodged it ah yep basically they said that yeah they should be able to use it for gaming or they definitely will be they didn't give us a date they didn't specify the kind of game and you know what somebody again i'm trying to remember i wish i could remember their names i'm probably gonna cite the name in the next video but somebody in the audience actually came in clutch and tried to really get them to elaborate because i know we all know this is the gaming application a bunch of you are looking for and i basically have a feeling that the real answer is no at the very least definitely not in gen 1. oh no no no no but uh yeah oh i actually kind of missed the point here they mentioned telepathic car summoning uh definitely uh i could have answered that one for you are you have you do you guys not watch michael reeves i'm gonna link his video with like the card like in the comments y'all need to if you guys like this stuff you really need to look into it a little bit more people are you if if he can drive a car with it badly as it may have been yeah i think summoning my car with my mind should be feasible it's literally a button summon car dot exe yep come over here there's a short it's a macro it's a macro but uh yeah they say gaming wise they won't really consider the task like significantly really greatly done until um you basically have quadriplegics playing starcraft uh i want to know what they mean by playing starcraft that's actually uh not in retrospect i think that's probably would have been a very good question are we talking about the actual inputs of starcraft or are we talking like using a spinal stunt slash neurolink combination to manipulate their bodies to play starcraft because there's a very big difference between those two things there's a very big difference one is i mean they're both impressive don't get it twisted but one is you know awesome and amazing and a really huge improvement the other one is sao yeah so we need more we need more detail and uh honestly if i if you ask me i still think again i'm going to reiterate it 15 years earliest 20 to 30 years more likely assuming ai continues to evolve at the pace it's going and that computers continue to evolve at a rapid pace or exponential pace we're living in we're living in history people we're watching that debate happen live we're gonna see where that where the where the cards will lie i personally i'm not i'm not picking size on either because honestly i'm not i'm not gonna be a player in the factor here anyway i'm not a computer engineer in that respect so chipset makers intel amd or i guess i mean i guess intel's still talking in the game tsmc samsung you know the guys that are actually fabricating the chips because important thing to note amd they make great ships and great cpus but they don't actually own their fabrication processes anymore they kind of sold those off back when they were having real big troubles but it's been working out well for them so far so yeah no no real issues there uh the depth uh neural link is being certain around three millimeters uh that's not much that's like maybe like like the little uh you you can look up what three millimeters is or you can grab a ruler or something it's you know those little bits that divide your centimeter yeah it's three of those so here i'm neither here or there they kind of didn't really go into it too much on whether or not they would go deeper uh we have we have we need that brain map to really figure out where we want to go so for now i think it's fine that they're only at the upper levels because again we're still there's still so much that we need to know it's we're still exploring that ocean people we need that we need that map we need a good map and once we have that good map we need to see how the map compares from person to person and once we have that comparison then we need to see how we can leverage that data because somebody actually made a very good point in the twitter i don't know that i don't remember who they were exactly but uh the way they described it was uh the writing aspect doesn't really matter too much in the long run until we have a very good idea of the language of the brain and it's actually a very important thing to consider because uh it doesn't really make much benefit if we're sending signals into our brain but causing more harm the good we need to know what we're doing while we're in there and we want to make sure that whatever's going on normally doesn't get screwed up because the easy way to screw with your system is to start plus playing with things that you aren't supposed to or don't know how to mess with a key example go ahead and start playing around with the registry entries on your uh microsoft windows installation and see how that works out for you if you push the wrong buttons but uh anyway they kind of mentioned uh motor intentions again really i between eurolink and valve now we i am genuinely tempted to like just take a day i might even take my vacation on the next year i think i might get some days sometime this year for my job for vacation so depending on things how things go i might actually try to see if i can get into contact with like a neural scientist so they can get like really like i want to have a wonder i want to have a one-to-one conversation if there are any neuroscientists down below in the comments section but yeah there are any neuroscientists um get in touch with me mark uh my email should be available on my youtube about page uh as well you know just just twitter just contact me through twitter at me or something uh i wanna get i want to have a conversation about you know what's going on in that region i want to know what's going on with the motor cortex region because i have a feeling that motor wise i've had it for a long time i felt like we could definitely get some really interesting things going with that but i i definitely think that i need to get updated on that and on how things have been going it's been six years more or less since i like last no like i was i was still studying it pretty seriously about like 2017. so yeah i'd say it's been a it's been a few years but i want to know more i want to know more about that i want to see what's going on in the front lines there uh let's see uh they were they kind of asked them what uh some of the things that they're hoping to deal with like blindness paralysis uh hearing issues and again i have to kind of reiterate this you're playing with the brain this is the processor for everything once you have control over this you have control over reality period thermal vision or uh long-distance vision microscopic vision uh super hearing we're using those words but the reality is they only refer to various contexts or changes in functionality using a thermal camera isn't really changing the range of colors that we're looking at it's just bringing things that are outside or beyond the range of vision using a superior sensor or a different sensor to pick up on that information and then translating it to a form that our bodies can see so in theory anything that you see right now that seems that can be interfaced with a computer so the webcam i'm using to record this video uh the robot i'm sticking up in my ceiling to screw with me your lights in your house the microphone recording this video anything that can be connected to a computer is manipulatable using your mind with a brain computer interface that is the point of it if you can control it with a button you can control it with your brain with a bci and likewise if uh you're able to receive signals for something to a computer that you can send those signals to a brain if with a bci that works well so literally stick two webcams side by side and use that with a neural link that works because we need to see how that goes last year elon was talking about vision with phosphines and we've been doing that thing for a while like decades so i really wish they would have talked a bit more about that because going hum-hum on the details doesn't make me expect good things but uh yeah they kind of got back into some of the challenging problems they were having they mentioned material science installation of electrodes material science in general is just it's so big right now because we need specialized materials for just about any everything whether it's computers uh news tools new uh products food chemicals everything we just material science comp it basically just amounts to creating things that do things that we need and whether that's using nanoscopic effects interesting properties of physics and all that stuff to get it done nanomaterials material just in general the science of creating things for a purpose from a chemical slash molecular slash atomic level is a powerful thing right now and uh next was a question on the reading right again all 1024 electrodes that they have in neurolink are capable of reading and writing so uh yeah that's uh great we're going from 100 electrodes to 1024 10 an order of magnitude of improvement so good job elon good luck good job nero link that's a pretty great thing uh they mentioned uh let me go through the numbers here a uh 20 kilohertz rate of read uh most of the valuable data that occurs in the brain is around one millisecond so again the way the brain processes information versus the way a computer processes it is very different so uh even though it's one millisecond that's being distributed and kind of altered around and it's of i can't adequately just my words are failing me inadequately being able to describe it it's just it's a non-linear structure of information interconnection that's asynchronous and at the same time very cumulative so it's not quite something that we can compare apples to apples but more or less our computers are faster than our brains they have been for a while and uh 20 kilohertz is way faster than a millisecond of course it's 20 000 times faster and uh apparently the some of the for spike detection they have a 900 nanosecond uh level of fidelity which is again amazing completely so that's way more fidelity than i can imagine us really needing for that kind of detection but it's great that we have it i mean the reason i say it's kind of way more than we might need because again we're not really detecting individual neurons we're detecting spike levels and i suppose that they kind of come in handy for like detecting like my new differences so it's gonna be up to research to determine how valuable that is but the fact that we have that is amazing so good job uh next point was uh oh for stimulation they actually have a different rate of velocity that was uh seven microseconds which is still incredible seven microseconds that's like well seven literally seven tenths of a mil of a millisecond response time in terms of uh monitor so it's blazing fast so definitely gonna be up to time to see how that comes in handy and how we can leverage that uh the team again 100 people that more or less that's again they've done amazing work for only having 100 people uh elon really does manage to get the best out of people and i can definitely see that neural link is benefiting a lot from his leadership or at the very least uh from there the people there must be incredibly passionate and hard-working uh props to everyone at neurolink you are the frontier of our technology and i respect everything that you're doing don't take any of the words i'm doing right now as harsh criticism of you you guys are doing amazing work this is more a balancing act of public expectations versus the reality of technology and trying to find a balancing point in the middle where we don't have people going crazy expecting to jump off bridges over the technology and at the same time we also don't have people that are completely pessimistic and losing their minds and saying that uh vr's not uh neural link is never gonna amount to anything because anyone who says that no your link is they're going places they're doing amazing things i expect them to be oh man if i don't i need a double check if they're public i probably the second they go public i put my money on that i put money on it uh next thing uh this uh this was the good one this is where the audience guy came into friggin kevin clutch he straight up asked them uh what are the likely first game applications for neurolink and uh again your link question dodged it uh basically all they amounted to saying was uh something along the lines of thinking with a computer to control something is possible uh for paraplegics tetraplegics rough translation it's still eeg slash emotiv sorry it's better it'll be better i'm not saying it is you think you know garbage but yeah it's yeah you aren't playing sword art online guys sorry gen 1 isn't doing it uh like oh yeah this kind of touched into the whole basal plain uh implant thing long term uh this is actually this kind of came into a bit of a concern thing i might have jumped the gun with the whole bandwidth thing thing earlier but uh yeah basically the thing that kind of caught my attention was that when he mentioned the whole connection and using uh the ma the mind spinal stunt connection in order to cure or basically leave tetraplegic such parallel people who are paralyzed or have issues with the wiring of their spinal cord which the spinal cord is basically just a bundle of wires coming up together if you've ever seen uh the wires that connect up to your circuit breaker or something like that from behind it's basically that but for your body but um in essence the thing that kind of interested me was when he said long term for their expectations insofar as that because again we're talking a guy who expects to be on mars in like 10 to 15 years or within the next 20. so when he says long term i'm wondering elon are you expecting to be alive for this because uh i'm i'm hope again i really hope i i'm not you know what i'm not even gonna postulate this i don't wanna i don't wanna think about it right now but when he says long term it does make me suspect this is probably going to be going towards the latter half of my 20 to 30 years optimal expectations and uh that makes me suspect that when they said high accuracy insofar as uh the motor control information because when you look at the pigs you would think oh we can we can just use it right now no probably just means that they're probably somewhere in the range of 80 to 90 percent maybe a little bit higher accuracy but ideally for a application as sensitive as being able to move i'd imagine you'd want somewhere in the realm of you know 99 99.9 every decimal every unit of decimal that we add here makes a difference so you would ideally want as many nines after that 90 initial 99 as humanly possible i'd say maybe because when i say once you get past 99.99 you have a that's pretty reliable i can trust i would trust that but um yeah i want to know i really wish we had a good context for that number because if we did we would be able to tell whether or not uh it would be because if he said it's like oh we're at 99 we're trying to get 99.9 to 99.99 then i'd be like okay um yeah we'll probably have this in like 10 20 10 15 years but if it's closer to like 90 95 after a thousand electrodes yeah we need a breakthrough we would need another breakthrough to like really speed up the schedule uh protecting the implant from the body they mentioned i think they kind of touched on like you know being protected from pressure shock vibration uh i actually kind of find it fascinating that they uh mentioned about having give in the wires which is it's a small detail but you really want to think about it because uh if neural link were completely rigid that would actually be a very bad thing because our brains actually slosh around inside of our skulls they move that's how you can get a concussion it's because your brain just smacked up against the skull and um yeah if my headphones are like touched and under tension if i were to move it like that it could snap and with how small and delicate the wires are for neural link you really don't want that by comparison if you have a little bit of slack you can move around and you see it's barely moving over there whereas if you have no slack you're kind of you're you're playing with fire right there or i guess in this case with your brains and uh yep uh they kind of mentioned a little bit about saving and recording memories again i mean at this point it's just talking nerd stuff and actually i kind of want to comment on that uh the guy everyone at nero like you guys are cool i would like literally love to sit down with a beer with you guys and just like or some or some kind of drink just coffee tea or something i would just love to just chill out and just talk shop or just talk the fun stuff because honestly these guys seem cool everyone just going on black mirror chilling out about just nerdying out about the technicalities and stuff it's everyone's just seems really cool so definitely um everyone over there really awesome stuff uh they mentioned rainier phases i actually want to look into that but it seems to be something in particular for memory uh the overall construct for memory for a human is probably pretty complicated and i think this is more long-term this is one of those you know we will eventually be able to do it in principle but uh they actually kind of almost had a little bit of a debate on the thing that we talked about just recently about you know the nature of consciousness in the human body is it a material thing can we can we spot the consciousness part of your brain is there a part of if we could transfer this little point would that be you and that's like the kind of debate they were kind of having on stage so remember this is this is not a solved question even if i mean although he did they did make a good point what that one guy did that um uh having the hard science part down would really help in answering that question a little bit because again right now we don't really understand what's going on in here we were just barely literally barely scratching at the surface we're three millimeters on the surface so um yeah we need to figure out a whole lot more about the brain before we can start tackling consciousness i think that might be a post singularity or if we never reach singularity within the century at least another hundreds another one or two century question so uh yeah and also again everyone who's thinking black mirror i i'm sorry i haven't seen the show i don't have a netflix i i'm in weaving i got my vrv right now i just got i just got my job back i'll get to netflix again later i'll binge watch it or something uh let me know if you want to if you want to hear my impressions on black mirror at some point or something uh programming languages uh this is kind of like a mech question i mean they mentioned you know verilog c c plus plus python uh can it run crisis um yeah programming languages guys if you're anyone who's an actual programmer probably knows you're never gonna stop learning languages it's good if you're trying to figure out what my first programming language should be learn whatever you can build something with and then build something and then build another thing and then get good at building things with that one language by the time you are really really good at building things with that language you will be at the point where you are basically able to learn any other language relatively quickly because the fundamentals of programming between languages are almost all identical very simple stuff it's almost always fl statements and all that kind of stuff and once you understand one programming language you understand more or less all of them i didn't understand javascript at all like i never studied javascript until the beginning of this year and yet free code camp javascript algorithms and data structures i did that in like a month or so maybe a little bit longer maybe a little less i don't know exactly i never interacted with javascript before my life but because of c plus because of c sharp because of java because of the other languages i've dealt with it was a quick pick up just like that because again the principles of programming remain the same through most of those languages and a lot of them are very c-based anyway so don't think too much about what language you're learning think about more about learning what the language is doing the code what does it mean to handle logic and create structures of logic that is the core foundation of programming and code so learn that and get good at it and then you can start worrying about the rest of the stuff same for the robots that kind of mentioned c c python java doesn't matter it really doesn't i'm about to start learning python right now because i've got a raspberry pi over here or uh depending on what your perspective this is glados say hi to glados um but yeah we've got a raspberry pi over there i want to learn python for python third i could probably use another language on it i just kind of feel like it because again villa times over here i'm a bit of a freaking jack-of-all-trades goddammit anyway uh they mentioned uh security concerns they say it's a priority the usual yadda yadda encryption yada yada authors uh authentic authenticated guys security is always gonna be an issue here and you have to you have to accept it the moment i mean they're using bluetooth for goodness sakes someone's gonna hack your nearer link it's going to be bad it's going to be awful uh i don't really want to i really don't want to have to think about it but yeah just know what you're getting into whenever you make a computer i guess what was that phrase to say when you look into the the best stars back at you when you make a connection on a computer unless that computer is completely inaccessible from the outside and completely self-isolated like say a plc or a micro computer controller and you rip off all the connections so long as that computer has a means of being connected to it will be hackable that is just the reality of it the moment you create a bridge between yourself and the rails to the world you are opening yourself up to be hacked i'm going to make a whole video about this in october when i'm trying to scare the heck out of you but um yeah just be aware that that's what you're you're playing with that you're playing with that fire uh availability cost in a word expensive is what they said they're they kept reiterating hope to make it like lasik but i know a lot of people for whom lasik is expensive too so uh sao buy my nerve gear for three hundred dollar crowd scenes on your link even when they're hoping for it to be good uh cheap is still going to be yeah it seems like it's still going to be a little while uh the supervision again the whole telepathy oh the telepathy conversation was actually pretty interesting the guy kind of mentioned about wanting to be able to communicate thoughts without the compression layer of community of having to you know translate things into words or actions and things on those lines that was a very fascinating kind of deep discussion we could probably go all day on that but um yeah all in all my impressions on the new online conference are kind of mixed i'm very positive on the actual work they're doing like the quality the the improvement in terms of the amount of electrodes we're getting amazing work just good job team the read write capabilities um i i i kind of have to give them some some props for the simplicity of it because even though they're basically just taking a smart watch and sticking it into your brain uh there's a little bit more engineering that goes into it than that and uh you gotta respect that engineering so definitely on that uh the pigs gotta give one kiss and gotta give the pigs over there some girl love they did a good job they were good pigs well trained behaved pigs and uh yeah the little presentation there where they showed the waveforms of the pigs i yeah pardon the long pause here but i'm like mentally calculating if i it would be worth my time to sit down and decode or analyze the brain the brainwave data of the pigs moving these are the questions i ask myself people you have no idea the things i'm planning to do soon but uh yeah all in all the pigs were awesome the actual hardware being a nice little coin this shape was awesome their plan is awesome elon uh you're making an incredible team out there i'm incredibly i'm very impressed with the things i'm seeing i'm looking forward to seeing more i like the slightly more uh grounded version of this presentation that we have here it feels like you have an actual product coming along the lines i wish that we could have cut out some of the little bits of fluff slash dodge and actually tackled some of the hard questions just give it solid answers i know why you don't want to do it because you're probably going to lose somebody if the moment the question of can a game with neural link gets answered with no or checkers yeah the moment you get that answer you're going to lose somebody at least then i know you you need every person you can get 100 is way too food people for a company like you're like all right that needs to get upped very quickly i have a feeling that the moment they get a consumer product or consumer product out and available it's gonna dramatically change their funding and i think they deserve it that whole recognition that they receive for making breakthrough technology is completely warranted this is definitely good stuff um not groundbreaking though i'm not too sh i this is they haven't really presented anything that i haven't really seen before in some capacity so if i had to give a criticism of this presentation it'd be that i've seen more or less all of this stuff in some form or another whether it be not maybe not from one source but from multiple sources so having them all together is definitely a nice thing but we still need to see that we need to see those breakthroughs we need to see those changes i want to see the sensory stuff i want to see you giving somebody sight because it's been a little while since i've seen a huge improvement in that i was kind of hoping we'd be a lot further along with that at this point than we are but yeah i'd want to see i want to see more on that i want to hear them talk about the potential uses for neurolink beyond the brain because i've said this recently i think it was either in a discord post or so and i said it during this present while we were talking just now too but uh the complexity of your rest of your nervous system relative to the complexity of your brain is ignore is just it's incomparable if you were to use neurolink on your spinal column i think you would actually get even better results that if you use it on your brain for immersion at the very least in terms of motion or maybe connecting it to your optical nerve think about that just connect a thousand or a million little tiny connections up in your eye and retina and you're in the optic nerve and just skip the eye or right now or whatever's burned out boom you can give somebody sight i touched on that on the sensory illusion video that came out today but or at the time i'm today in the time i'm recording i don't know when it's going to go live hoping to do minimal edits and just upload this thing but um yeah yeah at this point we're just kind of rambling i'm gonna have a much more concise and better presentation for everybody later but i wanted to you guys set up my direct thoughts as quickly as possible because you kind of liked the last video i did like this and i want to make sure that you guys get as much of this information as possible and just a little bit of an extra dissection of some of the stuff that we saw there because i understand that some people even what i'm saying right now probably went over some of your heads but hey the fact that you're trying is what we want we want your curiosity we want you to be exploring and fascinated by the potential and capabilities of humanity the things we will be able to do with neurotech in the future will absolutely floor a lot of you i myself can't wait to start getting into the field i just got my paycheck today today is friday it's paycheck friday i've got some other crazy things i need to work on first just because again i've been unemployed for a year i've got a lot of things to sort out right now and my own vr rake has been kind of languishing uh you know what i think i have a bunch of the uh do i have them here yeah there we go kind of see some of my uh gear over here electrode pads and i've got around that yep so many i'm dropping i'm got around eight muscle sensors over here so yeah i can't wait to start getting more of this stuff i got to get around another i'd say at least at least another eight or so this year we're gonna see how much that ends up being but uh yeah there's just a lot of technology that i gotta start improving in terms of stuff so hopefully we'll be able to see an eeg more emg stuff and more tech stuff on the channel pretty soon now that i have a budget amazing but uh yeah everybody that's all you're gonna get from me in this video i'm gonna do another one again sometime next week to more concisely sum up all this information and a nice looking package we're gonna have marcus doll for it there but uh yeah thank you very much for watching i'm sweating up a storm because i turn off the ac for these videos but uh yeah thank you very much for watching this video everybody i'm marcus doll

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