WHERE IS IT? >> NEIL, THE ANALYSIS REPORT BEING IN THE TIMES MAKES CLEAR THAT TRUMP ON TAPE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE HAD ITEMS THAT HADN'T BEEN DECLASSIFIED BY HIM OR ANYBODY ELSE. COULD POTENTIALLY BLOW A HOLE THROUGH ALL OF THE PUBLIC DEFENSES. THAT IS MIKE SAYING, YEAH, THERE ARE LEGAL DEFENSES. IT SEEMS TO ALWAYS BOIL DOWN TO THIS STUPID AND CHAOTIC DEFENSE IF THE PAST IS PRO LOGGED. BUT WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT IS KNOWN TO BE -- TO BE EVIDENCE THAT JACK SMITH PUT BEFORE THE GRAND JURY? >> NICOLE, I HAVE TO SAY THAT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS ABOUT IRAN ARE PRETTY HIGH UP ON THE LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE AT A COUNTRY CLUB. I DISAGREE WITH MIKE AND AGREE WITH BILL BARR. THIS IS NOT A HARD CASE TO PROVE THIS PROSECUTION. IF ANYTHING, IT'S EASIER TO MAKE A CASE AGAINST TRUMP THAN IT IS AGAINST OTHERS. TRUMP IS HIS OWN WORST ENEMY WHEN IT COMES TO HIS LEGAL TROUBLES. HE OPENS HIS MOUTH AND ALL SORTS OF WAYS THAT IMPLICATE HIM EVEN FURTHER. I DON'T THINK MIKE IS RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS THE QUESTION HERE IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN FIND THIS DOCUMENT ABOUT IRAN. WHETHER OR NOT THEY FIND THIS DOCUMENT OR NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PROSECUTION IS GOING TO BE BASED ON. THE RELEVANCE OF THIS WHOLE STORY AND THIS TAPE IS NOT FOR THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. IT'S ABOUT IT GOES TO TRUMP'S STATE OF MIND. THE DEFENSE HE'S BEEN ARTICULATING EVER SINCE THE SEARCH ON MAR-A-LAGO IS ID CLASSIFIED THIS STUFF IN MY MIND. I HAD A STANDING ORDER. I TOOK STUFF OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. IT WAS AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED. HERE HE'S SAYING THERE IS A DOCUMENT I TOOK OUT ON THE WHITE HOUSE. AND THAT DOCUMENT IS CLASSIFIED. THEREFORE, I CAN'T SHOW IT TO YOU. THAT BLOWS A HOLE IN THE DEFENSE. WHETHER TRUMP EXERTED INCOMPETENCE WITH RESPECT TO THAT DOCUMENT OR MISHANDLED THAT DOCUMENT, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. PROSECUTORS, OF COURSE, SHOULD GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. THE REAL POINT IS THEY FOUND THE GOODS. THEY FOUND MORE THAN 100 CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND HIS HOUSE AFTER THEY SWORE HE DIDN'T. AND THE ONE DEFENSE HE'S BEEN ARTICULATING SINCE THE SEARCH IS NOW CONTRADICTED BY HIS OWN WORDS. IT'S AS IF DONALD TRUMP IS TOO DUMB TO EVEN PLAY DUMB WHICH WAS HIS DEFENSE. >> HE NEVER SAID I DON'T HAVE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, YOU NEVER SAID I KEPT THING IS NEVER SHOULD HAVE KEPT. HE DOESN'T DENY THE ASPECTS OF THE CONDUCT THAT ARE DESCRIBED AS THE CRIMES UNDER INVESTIGATION. THAT PUTS HIM IN DANGER UNDER THE LETTER OF THE ESPIONAGE ACT. LET ME PLAY YOU ANOTHER ATTEMPT HE MADE AND EDITED BROADCAST BY FOX NEWS LAST NIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS EVEN THE WHOLE ANSWER. HERE IS SOME OF THE ANSWER ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT SPECIFICALLY. >> THE THIRD ISSUE IS THERE IS A SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT IS APPOINTED AND NEWS BROKE YESTERDAY THAT MIGHT BE A TAPE RECORDING THAT, QUOTE, WHERE YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT THESE WERE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU KNOW WHO THIS CALL IS WITH? >> I DON'TS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. EVERYTHING I DID WAS RIGHT. WE HAVE THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT WHICH I ABIDE BID 100% -- ABIDED BY 100%. BIDEN HAS A LOT OF CLASSIFIED STUFF HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN HIS CASE. I HAVE A RIGHT TO DECLASSIFY AS PRESIDENT. >> AGAIN, THE MISDIRECTION. THE CALLS WITH -- THESE ARE NOT MYSTERIOUS FACTS. THEY'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE NEWS FOR TWO DAYS. THE RECORDING WAS FOR AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY THAT MARK MEADOWS WAS DRAFTING. HE THOUGHT FOR A MILLION YEARS THAT YOU CAN GRAB PEOPLE BETWEEN THE LEGS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FAMOUS PEOPLE DO AND THAT'S STILL HIS POSITION TODAY. WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN ALL OF THE TAPED APPEARANCES IS NOT A DENYING THAT HE TOOK CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND THERE IS NEVER A DENIAL HE OBSTRUCTED THE GOVERNMENT'S EFFORTS TO HAVE THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS MADE SECURE AGAIN. >> THAT'S RIGHT, NICOLE. AND THAT IS HIS ENTIRE ANSWER LAFRT NIGHT. I HAD TO SUFFER THROUGH THAT. >> I HANDLE THESE DOCUMENTS ALL THE TIME. WHEN SOMEONE ASKS YOU, DID YOU EVER DISSEMINATE A PIECE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION? YOU DARN WELL KNOW WHO YOU TALKED ABOUT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION WITH AND WHO YOU DIDN'T. IT'S NOT THE KIND OF THING YOU FORGET AND NOT SAY NOT REALLY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF THIS WERE ANY OTHER PERSON AND THEY HAD ADMITTED TO WHAT DONALD TRUMP ALREADY ADMITTED TO, THEY'LL BE IN JAIL. THAT IS NOT A HARD CASE. I THINK THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON EVERYTHING WEEN INTO HOW THE CASE GETS STRONGER AND STRONGER WITH NEW PIECES OF INFORMATION MAKES IT VERY HARD FOR JACK SMITH TO DO ANYTHING ELSE BUT TO INDICT. IF IT WERE ANYONE ELSE, THERE WOULD BE AN INDICTMENT ALREADY. >> ON THE TOWN HALL, WHAT WAS BROADCAST IS NOT BROADCAST LIVE. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY NEWS ORGANIZATION TAKING SOMEBODY PRETAPED TO MAKE EDITS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY EDITED THIS PARTICULAR SECTION. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS FULL ANSWER WAS. TO KNEEL'S POINT, IT NEVER REALLY CHANGES. HE SAYS, I HAD THE PRESIDENTIAL ACT -- THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT. THAT ISN'T LIKE A POCKET PARDON FOR MISHANDLING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. >> NO, IT'S NOT. >> TOO DOUM PLAY DUMB. JUST SUCH A PERFECT ASSESSMENT OF EVERYTHING WE'VE KNOWN FROM 2015 TO THE PRESENT. SO, HERE WE ARE. IN THIS MOMENT WATCHING THIS RECORDING WITH SHAWN. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS OUTCOME MAY MEAN FOR TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS. TRUMP DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF. THAT YOU, AS HE ASKED THE QUESTION, THE ANSWER WAS ALREADY FORMING ON HIS LIPS BEFORE HE FINISHED THE QUESTION. HE GENUINELY BELIEVES TOO DUMB TO RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH HERE, HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO JUST DO WHATEVER HE WANTS WITH CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S NOBODY INSIDE THE REPUBLICAN POLITICAL OR LEGISLATIVE CLASS, ALL RIGHT, WHO SAID TO HIM, NO, YOU DON'T. CONGRESS WROTE THE LAW. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING -- PRESIDENTS DIDN'T WRITE THE HE IS TEE SNAJ ACT. THEY SET THE PARAMETERS. THEY PUT THE LIMIT ON THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO JUST WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THINK, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO DECLASSIFY THAT DOCUMENT ON IRAN. LET IT'S DECLASSIFIED AND GO BACK TO SLEEP. THAT'S JUST NOT HOW IT WORKS. THERE IS NO RELEVANT PUSHBACK ON THAT. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN THE HAMMER COMES DOWN ON THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE GOING TO THINK DONALD TRUMP IS GETTING SCREWED AGAIN. THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT HE DID WITH THOSE DOCUMENTS. AND, SO, WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES HAVING THESE VERY IMPORTANT LEGAL DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THESE ACTIONS. BUT THE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES WHEN IT COMES TIME TO HOW AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE DIGESTED THIS, BECAUSE AS A RECOVERING LAWYER, THEY DIGEST POLITICS BETTER THAN THEY DIGEST THE LAW. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE. THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE HERE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE TRY TO SPELL IT OUT AND BREAK IT DOWN. THEY'RE REINFORCING THE BS COMING OUT OF TRUMP'S MOUTH. SEAN OPPORTUNITY DNT PUSH BACK ON THAT. HOW DO WE KNOW? WE DIDN'T SEE IT. I'M SURE THEY DIDN'T EDIT OUT IF HE DID. BUT MAYBE THEY D THAT SAYS TO ME THERE WAS -- WAIT A MINUTE, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU'RE MISREADING THE LAW HERE. YOU KNOW WHO WAS ON THE PHONE CALL. TELL US, WHO WAS ON THE PHONE CALL? THERE IS THE LEGAL ANALYSIS BY