Mystic Mentoring Monday 27th July 2020 UK

they can join us all right i'd like to start when are you going to do a new activations new activations um no idea i've always doing activations activations work best when they're done with between you and god really so you can pursue the things he's drawing you to engaging rather than just doing a an activation because it's there i know there's times when you need to do that and the times when you do it on your own and then sometimes because you're you don't know what what to do in certain topics or areas you need some guidance from those who have some experience yeah but you know within the engaging god program there's hundreds and hundreds of activations all linked to various processes so believe you me i've gone through all of them yeah well yeah essentially if you've gone through them all then you know engage them until they become yours and adapt them for yourself i mean you know they're only they're only entrance points for people so that people can develop their own ways of engaging and i think that's the key in all of it is so something doesn't become a ritual or it becomes a formula you you have to see things evolve and grow you know the things that i did ten years ago five years ago i'm not doing now you know i'm not doing the same things that i did because i'm no longer at that point in my journey so everything evolves you know as your relationship with god gets deeper the things that you engage in gets deeper and for me you know i've got to a point where i only have to think to engage you know i don't have to go through a process or you know before i'd activate my imagination or i'd picture a doorway or i'd step through by faith or whatever i just have to engage you know because my spirit is already engaging i just have to engage my soul to connect you know and you know it's taken time to learn how to do that that way um but once you get to that point where this becomes a lifestyle then you're not trying to do something to get something you're just living this way the problem with living by activations is they can become a substitute for actually living that way i know we have to learn and part of the process isn't by engaging but eventually it's a matter of well i'm living this way if the father opens something for me to engage that i haven't engaged before great you know but i'm living you know in a relational way with god um and therefore not really doing activations you know it's not i don't consider what i do an activation i just consider i engage with god every day and i relate that way and my spirit is functioning all of the time and my soul sometimes participates with what my spirit is doing and a lot of the time it doesn't because i'm doing things here you know so it does develop into you just live this way but everyone's way of life will be different because it's depending on what their destiny is and what their mandates are and what they're called to participate in therefore it's quite difficult to engage something um which will fit everybody because everyone's in in a different place that that's why it's quite difficult to do an engagement online with people and i used to do them and try to do them but it but i found that some people were not engaging at all because they they found it wasn't what they were where they were on their journey and other people were able to go further than that so so i stopped really doing those type of activations because it was difficult where people are at a different stages you know so it's much easier for people just to engage themselves and find what works for them now that being said you know i am going to re-jig some of the groups that i do so that those groups become engagement groups but those will be for very specific purposes with those who are at a level to be able to do that and i mean uh you know those that are in advanced groups as they're called right now those groups will become ascension groups in which there will be ascension for specific mandated purposes in which corporately we can do things together but they're not a learning environment for those who want to learn how to ascend they're an engaging environment for those who already know how to ascend um you know the pro engaging god program is really about learning how to do something then you need to do it and that's really what i'm intending doing coming into the autumn really looking to do actually much more legitive governmental stuff with those who are able to participate in that and of course people eventually hopefully all will be able to participate in things like that because they will all mature to a place where they can do it um but it's quite difficult i used to run legislation groups for those who wanted to do that but i found very quickly that people weren't they said they wanted to do it they said they could do it but when it came to doing it there was such a mixture of old and new people were praying and asking god to do stuff and it was just like you know i don't want to spend all my time correcting people and saying hey that's not really what it's about you know um so so i i just in the end they just became general mentoring groups because you know i found there was such a diversity of where people were it was very difficult for everyone to be at the same sort of stage in those type of things um you know which is why i don't tend to do them like that yeah that's interesting that will be good i think that will be good yeah yeah we would like to see how that will go forward well you know i mean those who aren't at that stage can will be able just to be part of a general mentoring group if they want to continue asking questions and and looking at pursuing that um but i do want to engage even if there's two or three people who really want to who are already doing it really but will benefit from doing it corporately with others for particular purposes then i think that's a way forward that i would i'd like to see how that goes and part of the problem is you know when you when you make an invitation to people not everyone is totally honest with where they're at because they don't want to miss out you know and you know it soon becomes apparent if people are are not able to you know because if you step into that realm together and then you begin to share what you've engaging and and someone isn't able to it becomes re and they either try hard to try to fit in or they feel pressured to have to perform or to oblige to that there's no life in it you know and it's okay you know no one has to be at the same stage you know it's all okay to have be on a journey and to be okay with that journey but we don't want to pretend that we're further on that journey than we are because that really will just hide the reality of where we are so it's okay to be a beginner and starting out on the journey it's okay to be someone who's just learning to engage but they don't really know their identity in heaven or their positions there really well you know and you know if we're going to go engaging with some more higher level things and engaging some of the things that are in opposition to that you really don't want people who aren't able to handle that level of interaction because people will can get into trouble if they start engaging things that they're not mature enough to handle and i wouldn't want you know i wouldn't want to help you know lead people into a situation where they end up in trouble because you know they're not at that level to be able to do it you know so i'd much rather work with a few people who are but hopefully through the program others will become at that stage where they're then hey i would love to be able to together do this because i've done most of the stuff i've done on my own for the last five years it's only now that i'm really engaging with a group of people who are at that level that we can do those things together and it is a it's a real joy to do that and i do want to give people an opportunity of doing it but i i don't want to force people or think people need to be obliged or pretend that they can do it which is really difficult because you put out a form for people to fill in you're trusting that people feel it incorrectly and so you know and that wasn't the case when i did legislation groups people said they were at a stage and they really weren't you know but it was all right you know it got resolved in that sense um you know but i don't you know i want to help people um but i don't want to force people or if people feel that they're obliged anyway yeah brandon yeah this whole conversation reminds me i've just heard the the acronym fomo the fear of missing out and you wonder how much of that drives some of our times together and and i can see where there's almost competition that wants to get in and the out doing one of another and it takes away from just that intimate relationship that really what it's all about but i i was i was uh i just heard that fomo on um on friday and then heard a preacher uh preach a message on it i just thought that was kind of fun yeah yeah and people do feel that you know because i think they feel under pressure time pressure or they feel time's running out or they don't want to miss out but if you if you walk together on the journey that god is taking you you're not going to miss out on anything if you run ahead of where he is it won't benefit anyone trying to run ahead of where god is walking with them because you'll be walking on your own and it will become really apparent because you're trying to do things that you're not ready to do and god knows you know i mean even even in my journey god was looking for me to do something for years that he knew i wasn't going to be able to do but he kept encouraging me that this is where we will get to you know he didn't make me do it and i and i never felt under any pressure to do it so i just sometimes procrastinated because i didn't feel ready and that was okay with him because if you don't feel ready better to admit you don't feel ready if you're holding back and you are ready that's a different thing and he then knows how to deal with that because in the end with me he just said we're going to do this now so i'm like oh okay then you know if he said do you want to do this now i would have said no no i'm not sure i do you know i'm not quite ready to yet but he knew i was ready i was just lacking in confidence to do it and so he knows the the time it takes and the process it takes and what we need to go through and he knows when to give us a little push that we have to fly you know it's like when the eagle is ready to leave the nest you know the mother knows but and she pushes the eagle out i mean it seems a bit cruel but that's what she does and of course the eagle flies you know um but otherwise the eagle will be like a chicken all this life if it never got out of the nest you know so there are times when we do need a little bit of a push but at the right time you know and i think that's thing we don't need to accelerate that time or trying to get ahead you know and certainly not in competition with anybody else i mean there's no need to try and be like anyone else or do what anyone else does it's just a matter of being ourselves you know and i love the fact that it's a journey you know and and the journey is the important thing not it isn't there is no destination there is just the journey and and following the journey makes it um a relational process rather than you know a i need to perform and i need to be able to pass this test you know god really is not so much interested in in the achievements we make the the fact that we're outworking it with him along the way you know um yeah i like that fear of missing out yeah but you know i've seen it you know and when i've seen it i realize it's quite difficult to you know i don't want to be unkind to people you know and you don't want to dash people's hopes or make have hope deferred so they get disappointed but on the other side of it you you want people to see some sort of reality of where they are so that they can actually see what's needed to actually progress from that point you know and if we think we're somewhere we're not then we can delude ourselves you know and people do want to be accepted and they do want to be approved of and therefore people pretend you know a lot of people the fear of missing out will cause them to pretend but they're at a different place than they actually are and it won't really help them you know because then they'll find it difficult to admit when they're wrong and they'll find it difficult to say no i don't get that because their external persona is oh yeah i'm all together on this and it's so much easier to be free just to be where you are in the season you are and move forward from there rather than have to try and pretend and a lot of religious systems create a pretense environment because if you don't if you don't appear a certain way or then you don't fit in and so many people what need we all need to be part of something you know so the temptation is there through that fear of missing out or fear of men or their opinions is to try and earn that opinion and often people then are not free to be honest or say the truth and that's why leaders in some of these things aren't challenged when things are definitely wrong because people who are followers are afraid of their disapproval which is where cults start i mean cults use those than people who need affirmation and they use all sorts of techniques to make sure people still stay in that place are dependent on others you know you know and i really want help people to become in a relationship with god they're dependent on god but not dependent on others in a wrong way you know interdependent having relationship encouraging supporting grace but not to try and tie people to needing to be one what other people want them to be you know um anyway yeah i'm always you've got your hand up there you need to unmute if you want to hello mike hi okay i wanted to ask about um you once mentioned about impartitions and how that you don't really believe in them and um i just wanted to you to clarify again because i've heard or read of instances of some leaders in the church and forefront today who say they met one man of god who played with them who transferred his giftings to them that kind of thing and then it began to flow in greater manifestations or power it's not that i don't believe in impartation in one sense it's the method of that impartation and the way it ties people to certain others who are the experts who will do it you know you can impart a lifestyle you know because a lifestyle has to be developed and if people want an impartation because of laziness for instance they don't want to develop a lifestyle they just want someone to lay hands on them so they'll get something that motive will be found out because you won't be able to continue the manifestation that happens if it's not real you know and i know people can impart to encourage but god told me not to in the way of laying hands on people i mean i'm in imparting to encourage all the time by sharing with people and talking with people and you know mentoring people in that way but it's all to do with helping people get their own relationship not about becoming more dependent on me for that which is why i believe god you know got me to pull back from prophesying over people and laying hands on people you know if there's any impartation it's a seed you know i don't think you can impart to someone the fully fledged thing you know because that would mean that we'd all just wait for someone to lay hands on us and everything would be sorted out i don't see that really take place in the bible of course there was a sense where paul prayed for people and he did pray for healing i mean i'm not you know for me laying hands for healing is different from laying hands to impart a gift which that person doesn't have and which they have then they and really they may not need you know and that's the danger in i'm going to give you something i think you need rather than actually i'm going to encourage you to develop the gifts that are part of your destiny and that's a different thing you know and although i might encourage you ultimately if you don't nurture what's been imparted and water it and feed it and tend it then ultimately it won't produce fruit and i in the long run i do not believe just impartation produces fruit because there's a shortcut element to it you know and if people are looking for the shortcut rather than looking for encouragement to continue the journey or to pursue their destiny then that shortcut will find them out in the end because they won't have what it takes or are we willing to pay the cost to develop that in your own life i mean and i've had people lay hands on me loads of people famous people people you know in all sorts of situations you know who've laid hands on me and i felt something but i never became them and where i wanted to become them i never did because i'm not them you know so what if there is any impartation it will be an encouragement to continue to find who you are you know and that let's say someone is a prophet and they lay hands on you to impart their prophetic gift and your destiny is not to be a prophet well what are you going to do you might short term prophesy a lot but eventually you will try and become them because that that's the temptation in that whole system and i think a lot of the charismatic movement set up that system to create dependence and keep conferences full and keep people coming to the front for ministry rather than working things through in process in relationship over time you know and the best times of i've had people pray over me has always been to encourage me to pursue god you know and i i know when people prophesy things that aren't from god they're coming from their own soul because they don't want to say something that's going to offend you you know and reality is sometimes i mean i've been struggling in situations in my life that i would love someone to have said god sees what you're going through and he wants to bring it into the light so you can deal with it i would have loved that and i went to prophetic conferences really wanting honesty from people who prophesied and you know no one ever prophesied things i was going through or even hinted at it they were all just nice prophecies and i didn't resonate with any of them because they weren't the reality of the situation i'd much rather come and come out and said yeah you're struggling in your marriage right now or you're struggling with this right now and god says he's with you and he wants to encourage you then say oh yeah god's got this amazing ministry for you and you're going to be uh you know and all of that you know so i i think for me if god told me to lay hands on someone and pray for them i would would i give them the expectation that they were going to have me in part my life to them no i would never because that's not possible you can't have my life it's mine you can't have my experiences they're mine you have to have your own can i encourage you to have your own absolutely but you're not going to get it by me laying hands on you i can pray that you have more engagements or i could pray the blockages that may be hindering you in yours that can be removed and all and i think people you know genuinely can't to do that but i don't think i can impart to you something which is who i am and i can only impart what i've got you know what i mean unless i'm given a gift to give then i can only impart what i've got and in reality i'm i'm i'm not really looking to become the person who imparts gifts to people because they just keep coming back for more you know that's been my experience people want another prophecy they want another experience they want another encounter and that's why people pursue things going to conferences and going to places where they know someone's going to pray for them or you know or there's manifestations you know i'm really beyond those manifestations yes you know because i see manifestations do not really demonstrate whether someone's mature or not otherwise you wouldn't get a whole load of people doing manifestations and the next minute being exposed for taking drugs and sleeping with somebody you know i mean you know some of those things are gifts that are not necessarily a sign of real fruit or maturity in someone's life so i think we've got to be careful that we don't pursue gifts or manifestations but we really seek to pursue that which will cause us to become who we are destined to become you know and i'm not saying we can't mentor or encourage or help each other along that journey but we can't do it for someone and you can't shorten the journey by laying hands on anybody i think it's a false expectation that people will get disappointed over in the end you know and any time that i have had things prop you know laid hands on me and i had a temporary burst of anointing or whatever it never lasted if i didn't develop it for myself and some of those things i was seeking after things that actually weren't really part of what god who god wanted me to be so you know although i had experiences you know i'm not that person you know and that's okay yeah i am you need to yeah there you go hi mike hi um i would like to know what the third eye is now i've googled it and it's it comes up with the very worldly version of the third eye but i want to know if you if you can tell me from a son's point of view what is the third eye and um yeah okay again some of these terms are used in different ways by different groups of people and some people in the new age movement would use third eye or the occult movement would use third eye to mean the ability to see things in a spiritual realm often using some sort of formula or incantation or other way of activating it some people would say that the third eye has a physiological outworking in the pineal gland which they say is a physical organ which is associated with the ability to be able to engage in a spiritual way i never really did anything like that you know i never saw it as a a gland it may be i'm not saying it isn't but it was never a route that i actually looked and then part of the problem is then people get sucked into buying into some of the things which those groups promote that would open this realm for them and that includes drug taking pmt other you know sort of psycho or hallucinogenic type drugs lsd other things mescaline other things and there are people who are saying that they're believers today you know who are promoting the use of those things to create experiences now i you know that is the extreme uh wrong end of it you know um now just because there's a wrong end of it and we should be very careful we don't get drawn into that wrong end of it doesn't mean there's not a right end to it so in in one sense the the way of thinking of the third eye is my consciousness ability to be able to engage in a supernatural spiritual dimension and see or experience that and we have a gateway within our seven gateways of our being which one of them is a third eye other is a crown another one is the heart another one is the root the sacral you know they're just physic they're sort of positioned within our physical being that brings balance between spirit and soul so that we're whole and the soul and spirit are balanced within the tree of life that is around those seven gates and that's linkedin i mean i i'm sort of preparing i think i'm going to do a teaching on it um at some stage just to add into the engaging god program because you know i i have some experience of it and and realize you know how do how was i operating that i never thought of it as a third eye and yeah but you could just say well here's the ability to see not with your two eyes but another eye so you could say the eyes of my heart or the eyes of my spirit which would be another that's for me would be the the simplest way to express but i have physical eyes my soul has eyes which i could say would be my imagination to be able to be able to picture or see creatively and my spirit has eyes which actually enable me to be able to perceive or engage things at a spiritual dimension level now i wouldn't say that it has to be visual as soon as you use the word i immediately you think well i'm going to see with like i'm seeing with my physical eyes see it more as a way of perceiving a reality that gives you insight into that reality that enables you to draw from that reality what you need um i don't like to try and you know use the sort of the i don't use the terminology generally and i don't use any other methodology than practicing developing your senses you know and and so i would i would say that is my way of looking at it if you practice trying to engage in the spiritual realm and do it in relationship with god then you will get better at it you know so you you know if it was a hebrews 5 14 it's through practice that we train our senses to perceive or to discern and the third eye would be a way of discerning from a spiritual perspective you know and so that that's really how i would describe it you know i you know i've talked to people and there's a lot of mixture out there you know so none of the revelation that i've got came through reading any of that information either good or bad you know i didn't read mystic books or any i just learned by walking it out with god and practicing you know that meant i was able to perceive better you know um i don't think of it well i'm going to try and activate my penny or glad to see i just see you know i just engage you know it's just the way i live so it might be helpful for some people to think of there is a part of me which is created to enable me to see you know you know so everyone's got that though no one was born without it so everyone can see so they're a good good ways of looking at it in that way but it can become mechanical and ritualistic because some people will teach you to chant or to say this or to say that or do this so many times for it to become open and i think for me i i shy away from that type of thing even if it works i'm not sure it's the best way of helping people personally you know and there are groups of people you know out there who i think gullible christians could be deceived by or if they're not careful they can get drawn into you know because just because someone says they're a believer or they believe in jesus doesn't necessarily mean that they really haven't a relationship with him that is real you know and you know there are people out there who are seeking the truth but are not necessarily seeking it in jesus the truth even though they might use his name and anyone who's promoting using shamanistic snuff or any drugs to enhance mood i mean there are people out there doing it you know and and they're you know basically trying to encourage other believers to do it saying well this is a legitimate way just because god has visited someone when they were on a lsd trip or on a you know nescaline trip or whatever else or magic mushrooms or whatever it might be does not mean that that validates it because god will visit us in so many different ways because he wants to you know but that doesn't mean that that's the best way or it's a validation that it's okay to use drugs to heighten your awareness you know pmt is one that people are using quite a lot or dmt sorry um which you know i think i think it's dangerous personally what's dmt dmt is dimethyltryptomy okay and it's one that is a psychedelic drug um and it's in plants and you know there there is ayahuasca is a is a plant that produces dmt naturally but it doesn't necessarily make it right you know to go and use it for just because a plant does it's the same thing poppies produce opium but it doesn't necessarily mean we should go around taking opium all the time just because it's a natural product is it helpful to reduce pain in a controlled environment yes but it gets addictive and i find a lot of the things which are natural compounds which some of them have been synthesized become addictive even if not physically they become addictive psychologically so that then you need more for an engagement or you need more to open up something more and you get drawn deeper and deeper into that and you sort of lose the fact that well god wants us to be able to experience these things yeah he don't want us to have to go through those things i mean you know years ago you would have had people you know chanting for six hours 12 hours or whatever until they work themselves up into some sort of state of being that opened themselves up the same thing would be kundalini yoga and opening yourself for anything to come in well i just don't think that's a good idea really so you know so it you know there's a lot of stuff out there that we we need to be careful about really and as people become more open to pursue they don't always pursue with the discernment necessary just because something might work doesn't make it right really yeah thank you okay uh brenda your hand are you an ex i think um this is just a question that i've had over the years where do dreams and visions that aren't fulfilled where do they go i guess i wonder you know is there a special room where they go or um you know i've just walked i've had the stack of prophetic words i've laid them all down it's like okay and i've gotten to the point where i was mad at god this was back a few years but you know just where just to be perfectly honest where what does the word of god mean to you and i just wept because it's like it just felt like there was a lot of disappointment in the whole thing that was 30 years ago so i'm in a different place now but i just keep wondering what happens to those which you are almost sure there from god where do they go if they were definitely from god and they are part of your destiny but it's not seasonal or time limited then they're still there to be unpacked and to be experienced but some things are time limited they are here's something for this season and when that season ends it's no longer an application anymore so if god had you to do wanted you to do something in your 20s and you're now not in your 20s you can't go back and do something which was designed for your 20s or your 30s or your 40s if it was a time period not all things are but i do think a lot of things can be revisited in a different way in the future a lot of prophetic things were to inspire the journey and it was the journey which was the point not what the thing was to get you on the journey and sometimes god did dangle something and say hey follow follow this light or follow this carrot because there's something good at the end of it but it wasn't the carrot that was something good it was the fact that you were going to go on a journey which actually brought maturity or development or whatever it might be now there were a lot of prophecies which would not god you know or very partially god i mean you know i could prophesy or god loves you well yeah yes he does but did he tell me to say that at that point no and actually was it true yes but there's no real life in that and i think some people prophesy because you know because it's the thing that they've been taught to do and they're looking to say something to encourage well why not just say i'd like to give you a word of encouragement you don't have to dress it up in prophecies and a word of encouragement is going to be something which inspires us you know it doesn't either cause us to strive for it or you know to think well you know god says you're going to do this or have this and you know if if new testament prophecy is for consolation comfort and edification some of the stuff i've heard doesn't really fit into that pattern and some of it you know i mean for instance you know there were i think i read this online and there were three i think witches or new age people who went to bethel to their prophetic meetings and they went because they wanted to know were these people actually did they have any insight you know and they all felt it was a positive thing but none of them really felt that the person was telling them something they either didn't really know or that it was coming directly from god you know it was very encouraging but it was very generic you know and in the sense a lot of that can be what happens when you go to a fortune teller it can be very generic they're looking at your body language they're picking up things when they say things and how you respond and then they react to that by telling you things that you know are pretty generic stuff and really is not really there i know for me are there warning prophecies i think god can warn us or how you know generally speaking i think we should be moving away on the dependence on needing someone to say things to us to i can talk to god every day why would i need someone to go and prophesy now if someone encourages me i'm not going to say oh i don't need encouragement that'd be great but it's usually going to be something that i already resonate with rather than something that's so out there that it sort of causes me to take my eyes off where i know i'm going you know so i think it's you know do where do they go dreams is a difficult one because a lot of dreams are a mixture of things you know that some are the soul dreams some of it is a release of things that's going on um but god does give dreams he doesn't give dreams to me because i don't need them you know for me trying to figure out a dream would be harder than naturally having a conversation where the father says hey i want to tell you this you know so i do believe that the gifts of the spirit are the things that gets us on the road to maturity so that we can develop our spirit and therefore not needing the holy spirit to gift us but we are discerning because we developed discernment you know so some things may still be there for you but to be honest i would say 99.9 of the stuff that was spoken over me i never resonated with it really you know therefore i never got disappointed because you know but there were a few people who said to me and there are two people who said this specifically i have god has said and they prophecy and god has seen your heart now at that moment i switched into well i know what's in my heart so if this is going to be real it's going to be about this and actually it was you know so i so i really knew that those people were very much in tune with expressing to me that god was encouraging me that he had seen my heart and he knew what was in my heart and that would find fulfillment and it did you know both of those occasions very quickly there was fulfillment you know but i knew that i knew because it was already something that was there it wasn't a out of the blue oh that's weird you know i don't think things should be weird you know when it comes to receiving words of encouragement all that sort of stuff but in general we need we need to start developing people in maturity therefore they don't need it really but a lot of prophetic ministers will be out of business if they did that yeah and it is business for some i do think that it's our journeys that we share to encourage because you've come through so much and your experiences are like the words in the past but it's it's just so personal and uh there there's no and god said it yeah it just flows out yeah and i think that's right and i think sometimes you know that what you're saying is for that is for a person sometimes when i'm speaking at a conference i know that i'm speaking to one person in particular at that moment other people may benefit from what i'm saying but i really know that that's what i'm doing you know because i feel it and i feel connected to that person but i don't ever phrase it in god is wanting me to tell you this or whatever i just carry on speaking and i trust that their spirit will respond you know and i think testimony to encourage others to pursue is a good thing um you know yeah okay we'll go to emma and then we'll go to you stella in the end because you've already asked one thing so yeah go on emma hi mike um i'm coming across a lot of things about metatron and uh can you just remind us of is metatron an entity or a location um well i think there's just different levels of things that we can connect to and at one level metatron is an angelic being who was created for a purpose and he in has different roles and one of those roles is to head an order of the angelic the chaos which are the living creatures another role would be the key keeper and time keeper of heaven i've engaged metatron in the father's garden on a golden mountain and i've been given keys and various things then you have things which are you know sacred geometric perspectives like metatron's cube which is a title of something which isn't is really not to do with metatron but in my in my experience as a being but it's got that name you know and the name relates to maybe seasons and doors and portals and openings of times and things and relating to engaging god and finding a way into deeper places with god but that's a level which then goes on to a wider scale level and says well this is also a connection with dimensions that are all connected this way so what i find is this fractal the kingdom is a fractal experience i see things in a one sense and then i see that's made up that's just the bigger picture is made up of a lot of those same pictures and there are bigger pictures made up of that um which depending on what perspective you're looking at you may be looking at the little picture and think that's it but then when you step back further you can see you know if i was looking at with the blinkers on at a you know one thing i could only see that one thing i wouldn't realize that that one thing is part of a bigger thing so it's only when i step back and i look at whoa there's more to what i'm seeing here yeah i think an example would that be i'm looking at a picture of someone's face okay and i'm just focusing on looking at a picture of someone's face and then you pan back and you realize that that is part of myriads of faith is and that makes up a bigger picture of a face because you remember you see those sort of pictures that are a face but they're actually made up of thousands of little faces and it's a little bit like that with some of these things like the tree of life metatron's cube you know those type of things they're the merkabah other things there's a level where you're just seeing the thing and you're getting the basic connection to that but as you come back further it will take you into a bigger connection you know and then it may take you into a bigger connection and then a bigger connection um because there's always something deeper and higher to go to with god you know so metatron you know i've engaged with him personally i've never connected to him personally in relationship to a cube it's just what that thing seems to be called you know whether he did have an involvement with that i don't know and i think a lot of that it comes from jewish mysticism rather than anything else but you've got to call something something you know what i mean you know it's like oh well there's this thing well that doesn't it's not very helpful so well how can i describe this geometric shape well it's called metatron's q someone called it that at some stage why they called it that i don't know whether they had some connection with metatron or they felt that that cube had some connection with it's like the order of melchizedek we're all according to the order of melchizedek well actually is that actually melchizedek not really have i engaged melchizedek yeah but it because jesus is after the order which is what the order is about it's not what the person is about so you could look at melchizedek and see his description and say oh well that gives me some insight into the order but it isn't about him it's just using that as an illustration of what the order is like without genealogy you know no beginning no end no you know all of that is a description which gives you some insight into the order it really isn't about melchizedek's order and he owns the order you know that that's just not it jesus is of the order he is the high priest melchizedek isn't the high priest that we're following we're following jesus as melchizedek is also following jesus in reality you know so i think there's a lot of things like that that you if you delve into the mysticism or the jewish mysticism books or other mystical books there's a lot to to there's a lot that you have to throw out for a small amount of truth which is why i don't read them you know the first time i engaged the cube i found myself in an encounter inside a cube with a lot of blue facets like i was inside a diamond but it was like a cube but inside it were all of these amazing facets that were and i'm like where am i i've no idea where i am and and i didn't for a while but it was a cool place and it was like wow this is really intense here and then i did some engagements and i was engaging with some others and we saw that i saw that cube again and then others saw other shapes and when we put together everything we saw that was the shape you know this dodecahedron sort of cube with pyramid faces on it and you know which is with circles they're all interconnecting the points you know but that came through an engagement and then we said what is that god so someone looked up a geometric shape and they found something called sacred geometry and they saw the shape and it was called metatron's q yeah that that was that was you know and i don't know where the origin of that is you could go and ask metron i guess and asked if he's got any association with it or whether he inspired something in the beginning but in reality it's part of it's create it's a creational reality which is at one level how the whole of creation is framed at another level it's how i am framed you know within me you know there is a core in my being and there are access points in me and the same with the tree of life or the america you know it functions like that so yeah yeah i must admit i i don't go out trying to find these people or beings or whatever they tend to sort of come across me or have been sent you know or have an engagement i'm not really trying to find them and i found that in that i can relax and allow god to bring me into the reality of it in the time the and journey that he wants to take me through and you know he told me about two years ago that i would have deeper insight into the tree of life and on the surface you know i've been to the tree of life and eaten the fruit and seen the leaves and the scrolls and all of that you know in the river of life you know um but he did take me into a deeper connection to that and how that related to me and the gateways of my spirit soul body and all of that and how they're balanced by that and i'm like you know two years ago i would have probably just run from that because it would have been like it's too much too weird you know you know but now i can see that judgment and mercy need to be balanced in me because my soul's judgment and my spirit's mercy need to be in balance and they will be in balance in one of the gateways because the tree of life if you look at the picture of it the sort of shape of it has the intersections and connections and you have the crown which relates to the crown gateway you know and you have those different aspects to it judgment and mercy and and each of them is a balance between spirit and soul and i need that balance because if my soul is out of balance and is dominating then i will be judgmental if my spirit is out of balance i will be merciful to the point of not helping anybody so you've got to get the thing off judgment is here's a situation that needs changing how can i help this change because that's mercy but if i just said to someone you need to change and i'm judgmental then that wouldn't be balanced you know and i find that we need the balance between spirit and soul just spirit and it gets all sort of ethereal and has no substance just soul and it can be all material and has no spiritual insight behind it so we need both together and those sort of tree of life which you know is often called the sephiroth is another name for it and that's often what you will see if you see the picture of it you'll see that sort of shape and you'll you might see the different names recent times i've engaged that and i've seen how they relate to the seven gateways within my being and i'm seeing how they balance and for me there's three which are foundational so the heart and you know and the crown and the root they are the three basic gateways that need to connect me to god creation and myself and then other gateways are also then have different purposes um but they are also connected to the the tree of life in that they can they operate within those different gateways in a way i haven't taught it yet so in a sense you know i'm i am i haven't clarified it in such a way i just have the experience and i have a basic diagram of how they're linked um and i i think i've i'm i mean i'm just actually doing vision destiny 2021 although it's only july but i've already got 15 sessions of journals to share so i thought i'd share it now um and i do think in in the one of the beginning sessions of that i think i did go into it so hopefully i'm going to get that out in the next month so i'm going to need to do three or four sessions a week um for the next few weeks and then i will release that now because i think it hopefully will give some insight into some of the things that i've been going through and the things have been happening globally in the last six months um rather than in delivering 30 sessions at the end of the year or something which would be a lot so that's exciting looking forward to it thanks mike okay stella you're muted still sorry oh sorry i just um ex i just need clarification jesus has come and is coming the eschatology happy eschatology and terror eschatology as i call it now yeah okay well geez from a perception of realized or fulfilled eschatology jesus has come and he's not coming in the way that terror eschatology says he's coming all right so he came and was incarnated as the son of god and he went to the cross was resurrected ascended and came as he promised he would to that generation because he said he was coming to that generation he came to that generation and he came to end the old and fully established the new in 80 70 66 to 70 and literally there are testimonies which i go into in the engaging god program when i did eschatology which says he was physically seen in the clouds and on the mount of olives that he physically came to oversee the end of the old and the beginning of the new full fully established because it says in hebrews that the old was fading away and became obsolete and that was the point where the temple was destroyed there was no longer a physical temple on earth that was a counterfeit of the temple of the holy spirit which is us we are the wine skin of his presence there is no thing and of course people have just built buildings over the over the centuries to be his sanctuary well he is not he doesn't live in a man-made sanctuary made with bricks mortar wood or any other material he lives within us you know so in a sense we've even though he pulled it down one stone or another we just built new temples and called them churches or some other name in reality he doesn't want a physical thing to be called something so he ended it so he did come as he said he was going to come does that mean that he might not come again in some other way well he can do whatever he wants you know but it won't be according to script till the bible prophecies those have been fulfilled but he comes every time that we meet doesn't he when two or three are gathered i'm there in the midst so every time we meet he's there yes yes generally speaking look for his presence rather than an event because where he is gathered when we're meeting that's his presence he didn't come with a great fanfare and a whole load of angels to be in our meeting generally speaking his presence so the word perusia in greek which has been translated coming and is what the second coming is often termed is should be translated in greek parousia presence coming is something that's not yet happened presence is something that's already happening and we can participate in which is a different way of looking at things because if you're looking for something to happen when he comes you're waiting until he comes and if that is 2 000 years later well then you're still waiting a long time but if his presence and literally the greek actually meant the presence of a king okay so you're in the presence of a king but he had to have come to be in his presence didn't he so they mixed up the fact that he had to come to be in his presence to the fact that it was all about his coming rather than his presence and in reality if you read a literal translation of the bible young's literal translation rather than there are a few others you won't ever find coming translated from perusia you will only ever find presents now there are some words which actually are not parousia for coming and you have to look at the context about what that means but whenever it talks about you know when jesus was talking about well i'm coming to this generation it was very clearly meaning he he was coming and he's already come so there is no second coming event that we need to be looking at from a biblical perspective that's why people get focused on the future and miss the presence because they're all and all the terror and fear-based stuff is all that's going to happen in the future and that just makes them afraid of because the future is not going to be very good because they tie it to the end and judgment of an old system that's already been judged and ended jesus just judged it and it's is this the right system no it's not judgment over so it's gonna end and all of you who are trying to keep it because that's what they did they try and get all the believers back under the law back under the system you've got to have to get circumcised you've got to not eat this you've got to not do that that's what they said to paul even in jerusalem council when they met yeah it was like well just don't make sure they don't eat meat suffer to us you know sacrifice for idols and blah blah blah and he was like okay and really he was not going to get caught into that so peter comes to visit and he's eating with gentiles and then all these people come from jerusalem and then peter stops eating with the gentiles because he's afraid of offending them on their influence and paul called him a hypocrite basically because he was operating under the influence of that old fear so we don't need to be afraid you know so yeah put it that way and then you don't need to find a another second coming which does not preclude him coming to do anything he wants to do at any point in time it just won't be according to the bible that he's going to come and bring this or bring that or bring the other yes yeah you see that the church is waiting for that event yeah a church is waiting for that event and hence they seem to have uh stopped doing anything they're just like we are in the end times come lord jesus yep well that you know and that that's the risk and the danger of that all it does it means that you think you're going to be rescued yeah and how many people have thought they were going to be rescued in the last 150 years since that teachings got popular in the 1830s and particularly the end of the 19th century with the scofield bible and dispensationalism that really when it got popular how many books been written were people saying that so and so was coming and jesus was coming back and this date he was coming back at that time and every time there's a sort of particular pattern that happens in the heavens or a blood moon or anything like that you get all the crazies coming out oh jesus is coming back you know september last year he was coming back because there was something going to happen and he never has and he won't you know and therefore all the tribulation that is associated with that in matthew 24 that was associated with the end of the old and beginning of the new has already happened so there is no great tribulation it won't happen again that way but that does that mean there's no tribulation of course not you know jesus made it very clear that we need to be ready for you know what what refines us and sometimes it's difficult times that refine us you know but they're not they're not prophesied events in that way and unfortunately it it really hindered a whole generation particularly from the 60s late 60s 70s they really bought into that you know we must all be ready and you know larry norman's song and you know great late great planet earth and hal lindsey and all of that and you know you know some said it thundered and you know thief in the night movies we're all selling fear you know trying to get people to respond to the to a good god by telling them how they need to be so frightened of him you know which is just not really very effective you know and over that period you know he was going to come over and over and over again and he never did you know and he never will in that way so we don't need to be afraid of any of that because it's already fulfilled and realized that's why it's happy because all of the misery doom and gloom has already happened you know we got we just live day to day and if there's stuff to face today there's mercy for that today according to god fresh mercies every morning so let's live in the moment of the presence his presence in us our presence in him and we can live and find a fulfilled life which isn't based in fear or panic or well there's no point in you doing anything because it is all going to get destroyed by fire it isn't it already has been destroyed by fire which was the new heavens and the new earth coming from the old heavens and the old earth being destroyed by fire which was talking about the temple not the not the planet people are waiting for this planet to be destroyed by fire so that gives them every excuse to asset strip it and not look after it and they use the bible to say well it's all going to be destroyed by fire anyway so what's the point we might as well take everything well actually it's not going to be destroyed by fire because that wasn't what it was saying people today don't understand that the new the heavens and the earth was the name they gave the temple the place where heaven and earth met it was not about the physical planet so those who are waiting for the physical planet to be refined by fire it isn't going to be but fire is a good thing anyway because we all have to go through the process of refining and purification which will hopefully bring the earth to be into a restored place when we're restored but we should look after it and we should be good stewards of creation and not just you know forget our obligation or duty as sons in a sense because oh well it's no point because we're all going to be rescued one day and so what's the point you know that that is what has essentially caused so many christians to stop taking the responsibility of sonship and just wait to be rescued thank you okay all right okay i'm gonna leave it there nice to see you

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