Moonhorse Reads: My Son Is An Incel

[Music] [Music] hey guys it's your friend moon horse here and I have a story for you this is a weird one the story's not weird that well me the story's weird the subject matter is why so this is weird because I haven't exactly spoken about these people before tonight we're gonna read a story about an in cell and for those of you don't know what in cell is it stands for involuntarily celibate and they're not usually nice people let's let's say that this is usually a group who is very very very angry at the fact that they cannot seem to get laid and it mostly stems from their really terrible personalities but they don't ever want to acknowledge that because I mean that that's something you can actually change and they prefer to have this victim complex from what I can tell so this is a little bit of a long one and I'm not gonna break it into parts I'm gonna read the whole thing right out to you because I want you guys to hear it my son is a hateful insel and I just cannot save him or defend him anymore my boy my oldest child was so good when he was little but something broke inside of him when he was a teenager my wife and I always accepted loved and encouraged him we pushed him to work hard and to treat people with respect I don't know where exactly we failed him but as a father I feel responsible for the thing he turned into it started when he was 14 he became withdrawn and emotional we chalked it up to teenage mood swings for some reason he was just so angsty and bitter all the time we were worried about his lack of social life and his over reliance on his computer he kind of hid himself on in the online world so my wife and I began to limit his computer time but he simply became more aggressive and confrontational his hygiene was bad and it was always confrontational told him to shower and do laundry room smelled horrible he eventually had a huge fight over it where he physically shoved my wife and called her a [ __ ] and eventually we got him to at least clean or air out his room regularly on the grounds that it's our house and if he can't maintain his space he would not be entitled to it essentially we got to the point where we told them that he wouldn't be allowed to his worldly possessions or privacy unless he took care of the space that we all shared the room still smelled and he was still rude about cleaning it but we could get him to clean it a little we ended up getting a call from his school saying that a female student felt harassed by him we were shown messages where he continually badgered her to have sex with him threatened to punish her for stringing him along sending her unsolicited nudes telling her some violent fantasies of his and essentially just descending into some horrid rage-filled rant about his she's just another [ __ ] and other things were shocked I explained to him that this behavior was unacceptable and I explained that if it was this okayed it was okay to be sexually active but his actions were toxic and abusive I tried mentoring him man to man taking him on camping trips and whatnot talking to him about women and girls and trying to give him advice accessioned he tried showering changing his hair and facial styles you know facial hair styles I'm sorry I read that wrong try out a different fashion style maybe go to the gym I told him some hard truths and he doesn't want a gross woman he shouldn't be a gross man my gross I mean high genes and looks I explained to him that good looks are more hygiene and self-care than genetics but he refused to accept anything I said to him after that I I caught him sniffing his sister's panties in the laundry room she was 12 at the time and he's 17 he assured me and had nothing to do with his sister just had a panty sniffing fetish and he pretended they belong to girls from porno videos still gave him hell for it and he was grounded and lost his computer for six months I went through his computer and I was disgusted by the kind of hateful racist in self forums that he frequented the horror things he said women and save file is full of cartoon porn with girls of questionable ages I wiped the harddrive completely and again strictly monitoring his online activity I used parental filters to block out in cell sites and porn sites that hosted that particular kind of image the next big issue was something he did to my daughter's friend oh [ __ ] I'm scared already my daughter's five years his junior and one day after a sleepover my daughter came to me and said that her friend wanted to tell me something what was afraid of what I would say my son had cornered this 13 year old girl and physically blocked her path and touched her hair and face while making very inappropriate comments about her body and asking if she liked to sleep naked and what kind of underwear she wore huh Jesus dude don't I tore him to him for that my wife and I both shouted at him and told him that his behavior was horrible and I told them that if his actions got him arrested I would not defend him he huge dose of not loving him but I'd told him the reason we were so passionately angry in this situation is because I do love him and I want him to become a good person so you stop being so predatory and bitter and miserable I told him some hard truths and that he did all of this to himself that he's the only one who can blame for how bitter he is I suggested he looked to women his own age and he went on a rant about how it was a waste of time because women were already [ __ ] and by his definition a [ __ ] is a woman who has had sex at least once by 17 I'm gonna finish this paragraph and then I have something to say I called him out on his [ __ ] and expressed clearly that if he arrests young girls anymore I would personally turn him in I'm gonna pause right here because this is something I have attempted to say a few times in other videos where I tried to talk about himself and they didn't come out nearly as good and I just I couldn't post those because I didn't have enough of a platform to really push what I'm saying and this story is exactly yeah so I've noticed a lot of these guys he's really angry hateful and cells start at that early teen age they seem to be under the impression that there's just never going to get laid by the time they're like [ __ ] 14 or something I cannot even begin to explain to you how insane that sounds to me I'm not gonna go into personal details about when your friend moon horse is wonderful sexual awakening happened because nobody really [ __ ] cares about that and it's weird but I can promise you that if you're 14 and you haven't gotten laid that's fine if you're [ __ ] 19 and you haven't gotten laid that's fine everything happens to you on your own terms or at least it should and if you constantly blame other people for why you can't do something it might be your fault in this instance some things you know but this kid it's his personality it's 100% his personality let's get back into this invited my daughter's friend over after I personally apologize to her for her experiences I cried in shame in my for my son's behavior and beg forgiveness for allowing her to feel unsafe in my home and I promised her that if she ever felt uncomfortable she could come to my wife and I we would always believe her and help her luckily my daughter didn't lose this friend but for our safety I installed a lock on her door we got my son therapy but he refused to engage with a therapist calling him eight oh let's just say it's incredibly racist a lot of incredibly racist things Wow let's uh let's just say that the the therapist is of Middle Eastern descent and he decided to use all the really really horrible words what a [ __ ] prick his next therapist was a quote-unquote Chad so he didn't relate to that either yeah if you don't already know when it comes to in sell things Chad sir the super attractive men who get laid all the time and then of course if any in cells actually hear this I'm sure that moon horse moon horse is a blue pill Chuck will become a thing which gets said in the comments a lot whatever keeps you safe at night honey we fought him about not trying not getting a job and he said that he couldn't get one because of the immigrants oh he sounds like a winner to which I pointed out that he was struggling because he got fired from his high school job for being lazy reality check after those fights my wife tried to emphasize with him and understand what made him so bitter but he flipped out at her and called her a [ __ ] gargling [ __ ] and said that she [ __ ] her way through dozens of men until she found a betta [ __ ] who was willing to shelter her for missionary sex what a way to talk to your mother you [ __ ] [ __ ] my wife who works and contributes to the family income who is independent and professional woman honestly I lost it more than ever before I'd never been so angry when I heard them say that that maybe his mother and he may be my son but that's the woman that woman he was abusing and tearing into as my goddamn wife no one treats my wife like that I'm ashamed to say in my anger he shoved me and I physically retaliated shoving him back and pending him against the wall I felt ashamed of myself I've never been an angry or violent person but I couldn't control myself I never put my hands on any of my children such a way of my life I hate child abusers this boy was no child he's a grown man he was intimidated and back down and for a while it was peaceful and the last straw was this week my daughter has dated three people her whole life a boy a girl and now another boy we're about we were as open with sex as my daughter isn't with my as we were with my son we asked if she would like to have a question free steady supply of condoms left in her bathroom drawer and if she wanted to get on birth control she said no to both questions with her first boyfriend she never really brought home but we met him one of her recitals when she had a girlfriend we went over to her house all the time but didn't want to bring her into the same house that her brother lived in a sentiment I understand but a most recent boyfriend is a lot going on behind the scenes in his family he's a nice boy but his mom is a single mother of four and they should some boys started coming around a month after they got together I like him my daughter's happy with him he treats you with respect he's an intelligent boy an absolute gentleman he's respectful and polite in our home he calls me sir he calls my wife ma'am he offers to help with the cooking the dishes the cleaning when he's visiting talks to us this is a bit of an amateur cook himself and brings us food all the time to say thank you for taking care of him when we go out for dinner he always offered to pay for himself and my daughter though I know he doesn't have much money so I always take care of it when getting out of the car he opens the door for my wife and offers his hand he sits behind her for legroom he holds the doors when we leave somewhere and helps my daughter put her jacket on like there's sweet old-fashioned couples young man works hard and gives what little he has to his mother and siblings like I said I respect him I offered him money once for groceries for his family but he turns me down says he would feel guilty accepting my money like that he's appreciative of things at the winter he was negative 20 and he only had a hoodie so I draped my jacket over at arms and I said just take it son it's cold he had tears in his eyes and he said thank you I made some excuse about wanting to get rid of the jacket and told him he could keep it if he bought us cookies or something next time he did when Christmas came along I invited him over for supper and when I went to pick him up I delivered some presents for his family on the ride back to my house we had a moment he was crying because he didn't have much to give us he got everyone in our house a present but he cried anyway because he felt it wasn't enough to make up for what we gave for him I pulled over and just hugged him I said that so it wasn't the value of what we got its stead he got us anything at all I thanked him for treating my daughter so well and told him that he would always be welcome in our home my own son didn't give us anything for Christmas not even a card bought with the money we gave him this boy got my wife and I matching wine glasses since we like to share a bottle every now and then my son didn't eat with us he pillaged the food table and ran away to his room alone while my daughter's boyfriend that my sister and her family and parents and uncle they all told me I'm charming he was now polite he was meanwhile after dinner him I told my son told a five-year-old nephew to [ __ ] off agate for asking to play a game with him this is a man over 20 years old he sounds like a [ __ ] winner last week my wife and I went out for an evening to ourselves we went to dinner and then we went to Anne rather upskill bar to play some pool living it up you know then we went home sorry I need a little something to drink when I walked in the door the kids were screaming at each other I came in to see my son and my daughter's boyfriend fighting boyfriend was just pushing him back trying to redirect him someone's throwing punches and charging at him daughters crying and sitting against a wall clutching her face I got between them push them apart demanded to know what the hell was going on my senton went on a tirade about how he found birth control and heard horse sounds coming from her room so he kicked the door open and discovered them having sex he said that he couldn't believe his own sister would be a let's just say he drops more wonderful racial epithets because he's a [ __ ] nice guy called the poor boy um [ __ ] this kid oh I've got my daughter and her boyfriend out of there and I yelled at my son for how he's acting eventually I got nowhere with him so I made him wait in his room I went to talk to my daughter I apologized to her boyfriend crying as I did telling him that I hope he could forgive us for letting this happen he said that he was sorry for getting violent but that he only did it because my son had hit her my daughter cried and said he was a psycho and threatened to rape her and that he admitted to ejaculating on her toothbrush and hairbrush oh my [ __ ] god oh oh okay it charged into his room and I said firmly that he needs to pack his bags and leave I told him I would pay to have his things sent to him wherever he went but that he was leaving tomorrow my wife stayed at my sister's my daughter and her boyfriend spent the next few nights at his place the next day I practically threw him out of the house kicking and screaming I took his key back changed the alarm codes in the garage door code day later I had a message requesting some of his things mostly gaming stuff to be delivered to some strange apartment block I didn't recognize a couple of towns over college h-man bust me in it delivered the stuff I didn't see him wife and I then went through his room my daughter's boyfriend came over and helped me move his furniture into the garage we threw out the mattress and some more gross and smelly things we check out the carpet to be replaced hidden in the closet was a treasure trove of my daughter's underwear so saturated with old moldy you can guess that they were hard as bricks the nerving part was that there were a few pairs that my daughter was adamant did not belong to her they were too small for my wife so it's possible he stole them from my niece's there's a sketch book containing graphic drawings my son violently raping different women and keeping little girls chained up in some kind of sex dungeon I went through his old phone that was still working all of his photos were screenshots of my niece's and their friends and dakinis lots of cartoon porn lots of red pill and Insel and trump memes he still had messenger so I went through his messages most of them were just him trying to harass women and underage girls I checked his email and much to my disgust he stole private photos of my wife from her phone and was selling them today I'm with the police with everything I had and told them everything I gave him a baby boy everything I don't know why he went down this road but I'm sorry that I failed him I don't know what the police will do but I hope they stop him before he hurts someone sad thing is yesterday once it was all over and settled yesterday we we actually had a nice day one of the happiest days he'd ever had edit this is a lot to sort through it's impossible to reply to everyone so let me hit the big points all the in cells in this post are attracted to this post can [ __ ] off back to their holes seconded how do I know the lingo my son why did I take his computer time away I specifically said I did well why didn't I take his Peter time away yeah I specifically said I did his laptop was forbidden to be used in private and I banned the site scheme it's using with parental locks he bought or stole another laptop behind our backs and though he though and used phone date I'm sorry I don't know I couldn't figure that sentence out well I thought I don't use our phone internet so we didn't think anything of it it wasn't Christmas last week I know it's November young man visit us on Christmas of 2017 we had this fight last week I don't know how I can clarify the passage of time between the fight and Christmas it's pretty clearly not Christmas now but you know why wasn't he in therapy again this is a comment from people who must have skimmed because we did put him in therapy he is abusive towards several therapists so we gave up why not have him institutionalized because that is my son to have him locked away it's not an easy decision I love him we wanted him we wanted him to change but he just didn't I have no idea who he moved in with I don't care maybe it's an air B&B I don't know why didn't you help him sooner was he bad as a child as a kid he was introverted but not bad he misbehaves sometimes wasn't troubling he had a few friends and they had a falling out in the last year at grade school prior to harassing the first girl he had some red flags he seemed to press and his hygiene was spiraling we tried to help him but he was stubborn he didn't want help he wanted to be miserable I listened to his problems and he complained about how his dream girl went after some other guy and she was stolen from him and I tried to guide him and help him understand that she wasn't stolen because he's not property the person can make their own choice and like that answer all the things you say we should have tried we pretty much did we gave him lots of attention and love before this and after we always tried to be a family my daughter and her boyfriend have helped me clears room since I cannot carry certain heavy things myself daughter was therefore present when I found the underwear stash singled out a couple of pairs it's not hers I'm just scared of where he got them she suggested keeping them for evidence there was a teacher who did get through to him somewhat for a time but he transferred to a different School District he wasn't horrible all the times sometimes he could be great to be around he'd be really funny and clever he's really good with the animals he was good with his games - we got really passionate and excited about them and made me happy seen him having fun with a hobby he's seeing him smile and almost make me forget the things that he's done telling me to kill myself says a lot about yourself Wow Wow okay I'm gonna finish mm-hmm I've seen what toxic ideologies do to families I'm not interested in joining your red pill Jordan Peterson or child beating cults thank you advocating child abuse as a 20-something brat shows your immaturity advocating murder does - thank you again toxic masculinity is considering men weak for having strength to express their emotions this guy gets it mainly complaints about allowing my daughter to be intimate with her boyfriend all stem from the same racist insell rhetoric my son used there's literally nothing wrong with interracial couples I couldn't be happier that my daughter is with someone who loves her and treat her with dignity and so struggle with reading evidently my daughter and her boyfriend had her first boyfriend at 15 and I doubt there was anything going on between them she's currently 18 so yes she probably has had sex as an adult woman it's not really anyone's business my son is 22 soon to be 23 edit - with new replies coming in by the truckload three new PM's for everyone I reply - I'm getting slightly overwhelmed by the responses here I can't really keep up I've even just reading if we can skipping comments just to keep up I have things to do today but I'll try to catch up every I'll catch up every so often edit three mods have locked the thread I'm not sure why but there's almost 10,000 replies and maybe 500 PM's to sort through okay okay okay this is this is the reason I don't really I mean I can but I really don't talk about in cells much is because this this action right here this this stuff that's not funny this kid isn't funny there's nothing funny about what he did there's nothing comedic about the way he acts he's a [ __ ] [ __ ] he's a [ __ ] monster you you guys already know how I feel about pedophiles I have a real strong hate for that but but this [ __ ] I I don't even understand how this this guy could do this I mean he must have the patience of a [ __ ] Saint I mean that's your kid so you do what you got to do you know I understand that and I'm I'm [ __ ] impressed uh I think he did everything he could because look I'm gonna go ahead and level with you guys on a couple of things this video is already long but [ __ ] it let's be completely honest this is not my first exposure to in cells I've seen other people's videos on it I've seen their forums I've seen their comments I've seen the [ __ ] they believe their ideology is flawed and laughable but their actions yeah their actions sometimes I am so [ __ ] funny this is honestly like some kind of weird formless cult they believe the [ __ ] that they spout religiously deeply and unequivocally getting someone to reject this mentality is shockingly hard once they're in they buy in wholeheartedly I do not understand the attraction to it but I guess some people are just really into this I mean the only thing I can say and I've noticed a lot of this is maybe it has something to do with with I don't know maybe like some kind of chronic depression I mean I've had I have chronic depression I have bouts where [ __ ] is really [ __ ] hard and every now and then you have those moments where you're coming out of this and sometimes you're just angry you don't know why you just you just have this rage and it goes away but these guys it seems to me that they're there like it's almost like they enjoy it like they want to be in this miserable space that it's like some kind of [ __ ] high I don't get it I don't get it I'm not a saying I'm not a [ __ ] psychiatrist or psychologist or [ __ ] therapist for that matter I'm a [ __ ] unicorn from the moon I don't know [ __ ] I just read stories and talk about things but it seems really weird that you know people would lean on this but that's let's move away from that for a minute just some of the comments some of his answering to comments the one that really gets me the one that really gets me is the violent reactions now I can understand I'm not a non-violent person you know sometimes [ __ ] happens and you got to deal with it I'm I know that's life it sucks but you know it is what it is but I mean this is this guy's son so you you show extra restraint you allow them to get away with more because they're your kid I get that I am NOT saying that he needed to fight his son because that's [ __ ] ridiculous I've I've witnessed that mentality firsthand too I've seen people who think it's a real good idea that whenever their kids reach a certain age and they don't respect their their daddy in the house they end up in [ __ ] fistfights in the front yard because I live in redneckville and it sucks that's not helping things it just makes more [ __ ] angry doesn't fix anything so the one that really got me though it's this this defense ship and he's talking about the insel show up to this this post it amazes me that they're so quick to jump out to defend one of their own when at the same time spend so much time on their forums telling every other one of their own that they should kill themselves that there's no point in existing that everything is terrible like some sort of I don't know nihilistic philosophy based around boners and your inability to get [ __ ] it's it's just weird that you would be so adamant to defend your worldview when your worldview is literally telling you that you don't serve a purpose I don't understand why you would do that what are you winning points for what are you trying to achieve with this mentality and then to go into this and it's just cool yourself this guy poured his [ __ ] heart out about how basically his son alienated himself from his entire family because of a toxic mentality egged on by toxic people who share the same toxic mentality and want nothing to do other than to spread their message of [ __ ] hate and your response [ __ ] off with that [ __ ] off with that [ __ ] I don't even [ __ ] care all right that's a [ __ ] [ __ ] thing to do you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] for doing it what do you have no you know like what why am i questioning this why am I asking when you have no moral standards obviously you [ __ ] don't you think like this [ __ ] off ain't nothing left to say there you know so [ __ ] this is this is it's kind of why I don't talk about it too much I ended up getting kind of Angry yeah I there are parts that they believe that are just like amazingly unbelievably stupid the whole chad and stacy thing yes stacy is the female version of a chad that the girl who's so beautiful but everybody wants that they secretly want but at the same time hate but they also want but they hate but they want but they ate because they're a bunch of [ __ ] conundrums constantly wrapping around themselves with no endpoint in sight like an aural boorish made a [ __ ] so I don't understand their mentality I've heard it I've read it I've seen it however you might as well be you might as well be teaching Sanskrit to a [ __ ] beagle because I'm listening to this [ __ ] and the only thing I can think is you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] like what the [ __ ] look I said before that I had problems with depression I'm diving back into this for a reason bear with me and I did I had a lot of problems with it to the point that I mean I make jokes now about like you know I drink too much I'm gonna call I don't drink that much I really don't not compared to what I used to I used to take out large you know the big you've probably seen though hear the story like 10 bucks are real cheap like vodka and it's like the big gallon bottle yeah they'd be gone in about a week that ain't healthy I know it wasn't but I was super [ __ ] depressed I went through some really hard [ __ ] I lost a family member and things got really bad the reason I am saying this is because in the depths of that depravity and the depths of that horrible horrible moment I thought there was absolutely no way out there is no end to this existence is a lie nothing will ever change there is nothing but hell beyond this and then the Sun came out I think started to change it wasn't so dark anymore and I will say that a big part of that is finding this community with you guys being able to talk helps a lot but it's not just that I mean what I do to get this out of me may not be what you need maybe you don't need a [ __ ] podcast maybe you maybe you want to draw maybe you want to build things maybe here you're really good at like playing music or or you know a coating or something like that just anything you have to find that creative outlet and it helps once you find it and it feels good once you find that thing that helps get this out of you it changes everything yet stay dark forever kids Sun comes up eventually however if you hide in your cave and block out all the light ain't never gonna see the Sun so it's your choice at that point it's your choice if you're gonna open the window we're all here are you gonna come out are you gonna stay in there and let this [ __ ] bother you forever and sometimes it ain't time to come out I know that's like a [ __ ] it's like a caterpillar metaphor there it ain't your time to come out of the cocoon but you have to be willing to find that time you have to be willing to look for it don't drown it like I did don't follow it down a hole with a bunch of other depraved maniacs who only want to live in that darkness like this guy son did don't let that [ __ ] control you kids as it will the hardest part about that whole depression thing is its illogical as [ __ ] and it just to make any [ __ ] sense sometimes it just goes into [ __ ] and you're just like oh you know I'm sad but I don't know why and then to make any logical sense and it makes your brain start going in loops and it drives you crazy I know I've been there but it'll get better you just have to be willing to try this kid did not want to try this kid did not want to try and I know in his own words he's 20 at the time of writing this and the father says you know he's not a he's not a kid he's a man now cuz he's 20s like you could be 65 and he still think like this you're a [ __ ] child you're a child because adults don't do that adults don't [ __ ] act like that if you honestly think that someone is withholding some kind of grand conspiracy I can't get laid because the Staci's and the Chad's won't let me if you really believe that [ __ ] if you're gonna go on this whole thing about like good but my wrists are too small that's a real thing wrist cells I've seen it if you honestly believe that [ __ ] and you don't do anything to address your personality your hygiene your social skills none of it brother you're still a kid you've got to learn to grow the [ __ ] up you got to learn how to take responsibility for yourself that's the bottom line here nobody can fix you but you yeah you can get help but you got to be willing to make that first [ __ ] step and if you aren't gonna take that step ain't nothing gonna change it's the bottom line kid I ate it I wish we could just make people better like that but sometimes that ain't the way it goes so are you gonna [ __ ] sit there and spew bile all day are you gonna get the [ __ ] up and change [ __ ] that's all I'm asking it's got weirdly you know deep I'm sorry about that again the subject is it's weird and I've known a few in cells and believe me it's it's not fun they're not fun people so anyway this is the video I did about that if you want me to do more of these you know send me some stuff because personally I hate looking up things about insults I just really don't want to they're they're not fun people so I'm gonna in this video here it's been wow this basically turned into a [ __ ] podcast I'll talk to you guys later I'm gonna go get some more work done I love you all and seriously that notes about positivity and bettering yourself I meant all that you can do it and if you need someone to talk to I mean you can find people there's there's always somebody you can post in the comments here if you just want to talk to each other [ __ ] I've read it you can message me I'm not a therapist I can't make everything better you know I'm not qualified to professionally help you but if you just want to like you know moon horse sure I like you I'm pissed off about this can i rants yeah brother that's fine go for it I don't mind it's all good just just be there for each other guys that's that's pretty much what it comes down to just we can you know we can't change the world but we can make our pieces a little bit better so at least there's that and again I love you all and goodbye [Applause]

Channel: Moonhorse The Horse

Views: 11,237

Rating: 4.8479533 out of 5

Keywords: Moonhorse, Podcast, Incel, Angry, Sad, Gross, Weird

Id: VlCQBACekCs

Length: 36min 38sec (2198 seconds)

Published: Sat Nov 17 2018