Missions Panel Featuring Dr. Joe Allen and Christy Allen - September 14, 2021

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we are for the church and for the kingdom this vision drives everything we do there are many noble causes and institutions in this world and we care about the future of seminaries academies governments social causes and pair church ministries but they are not fundamentally why we exist we exist for the future of the church and the advancement of god's kingdom with god's help our students today will be the pastors ministers and missionaries of the global church tomorrow we teach the bible in the classroom so that generations of churches will be sturdy outposts of christ's kingdom this is how we serve the church and this is how we bless every other good and noble endeavor until god's glory covers the earth like the waters cover the sea [Music] will you join us first of all it's just good to be in this chapel together and on this stage and with these friends and colleagues here and again even behind this moment something that for the past year and a half we really couldn't do right not with the bulk of our campus community here together due to coveton so it's good to be here and be able to have these conversations today i hope uh in 30 minutes or so that we leave this room more encouraged about what is god is doing for the nations here more inspired and motivated to be a part of that work personally and more positioned institutionally collectively to lean into that global work god is doing uh to do that or to positions for that i want to give a few words on the front end here and then i'll i'll shift to a personal introduction of the allens because they're part of that story and then we'll just see where god takes us in this conversation for me over the past five years or so it's been an increasing awareness of and really longing for god to do a deepening work here in this place for the great commission uh i'm in my tenth year about to start my 10th year and and from day one we've talked a lot about for the church and rightfully so we've also sought to say consistently that to be for the church is to be for the nations because missions is about winning people for christ incorporating them into established planted and established churches overseas so those visions aren't in conflict but we have to make sure that as we're talking about for the church we're always speaking not just domestically but internationally but still praying that god will do a deepening work here over the past several years that that that prayer has also been accompanied by the fact that as i look across the horizon the landscape in the broader evangelical world and even our southern baptist convention it seems as though that we are in something of a low ebb as it relates to a great commission awareness a great commission zeal many of us came to age in ministry you know 20 years ago give or take when uh john piper was challenging a generation to to go and die and to not waste your life you know collecting seashells many of us heard that call and it resonated within us and the many of us you know ten years or so give or take we're challenged by our friend david platt challenging us to do radical things for christ and to go to the nations and it just has felt like that that in recent years we haven't had like this this this voice or this stirring this probing of the conscience in the evangelical world and within our southern baptist convention as as we would like now i'll get to the punch line here okay now i'm gonna back up and and put some more filler in the punch line is i'm praying that god would use this institution program known as fusion uh the person on this stage in addition to person on this stage and then new initiatives that i'll foreshadow a touch here momentarily that this will be the place that in the 2020s is championing a great commission vision that god is pleased to do in this place and from this place an awakening work a a reminding work to the churches that we're to be about the great commission that we're to be about the noble urgent task of of winning every people group for the glory of the lord jesus christ so i mentioned that stirring that's been taking place and that sense of praying god would do a deepening work a conversation i've had with our provost dr doosing everyone knows he's an academic but also part of his story is a a real heart for the nations and even in early years in ministry and in more recent years of ministry praying through what's god's calling for his life to be domestic or to be overseas in an international missions context and perhaps dr dustin would say word to that a little later then a couple years ago god calls dr jason deroshie here and of course everyone knows doctors roshi's more than just an old testament scholar as though you know we should put the word just in front of that but um a man who has a a profound heart for the nations and overseas goes overseas multiple times a year especially in the region of africa and just has a pulsating heart for the nations and so you see these pieces coming together also the past several years dr robin hattaway who has taught here for so faithfully uh stepped excuse me into the senior professor and also the pastor of yours has written a number of very helpful instructive books this further field this sense of awakening here which has been a very helpful contribution and and then uh and then as we began to look over the course of the past year towards towards um who would come in and and feel this this professorship we needed and wanted you know by god's grace not just a person but hopefully a family a team that embody that a family that had been on the mission field for an extended period of time that have have lived it not just taught it but lived it a a couple who who radiated joy in christ and love for the gospel and a love for the nations and so there was an infectious aspect to their life and work and and by god's grace we believe that he's given us in and this dear couple to my right overlaid all of this has been a prayer and a desire that that again even here by way of uh institutional programming by way of of of what we actually do on the campus by way of institutional instruction that god would make available for us to do something new and uh and deepening on the missions front from a programmatic standpoint now i'll kind of let you peek behind the veil a little bit here at this point and say that our fusion program which is so strong and and just a remarkable work god has done over the past 15 years through it is largely underwritten by one couple who have just been dramatically generous over the years to underwrite the fusion program i have been praying that god would give us the funding to do something similar to fusion at the at the master's level at the end of level and something that had a similar commitment of focused training of cohort type training of an extended service taking place internationally as a part of that much like fusion and praying that god would would raise up someone or some couple who would who would underwrite it much like he's raised up this this other couple to underwrite the fusion program well little did i know that it actually would be would be the same couple that got from their heart to underwrite both and uh back earlier this spring i was in a meeting with with that couple and they brought up to me they said look we believe god is you know calling us to do more and is there a need here an opportunity to do more and i began to talk in elementary terms with them then briefly about some of the possibilities and then the summer we're able to connect for more a more thorough conversation and over dinner conversationally over dinner they were just moved to say over dinner dr allen we're committing tonight to doubling our giving so you can do at the master's level similar to what this is mary's doing at the fusion level so i look at all these different things frankly and i i i know this is a tired phrase but i do believe it's something of a kairos moment or a chirotic moment where it seems like different things are coming together both the student level of drawing fusion students over the years and at the institutional level of faculty and staff and key additions who have a heart at the development level of god putting on the heart of donors to step up and then as we are imagining now and refining a plan to build something very special at the master's level that we'll be able to announce in more concrete terms uh here in in the weeks and and months ahead so all of that seems to be coming together in a way that for me is breaking me just just frankly um not just ambitious for the nations but overjoyed and full of anticipation is what i believe god is going to do here now central to all of this is this couple to my right at this point i want to i want to position you guys for kind of an extended word of introduction dr allen and uh mrs allen uh for an extended word of introduction here and i want not only to hear the nuts and bolts of of of claire and and joe and their ages but and you know kind of the typical family touch points that won't expect we introduce new people but but i hope to tee you up to talk some about y'all's experience overseas both as young men and women boys and girls perhaps even as far as that desire for missions taking place and then building up through your young adulthood into your family life and into recent years of having served overseas for roughly 15 years so so dr alan i don't know how far back you want to go by way of personal biography and and mrs allen you either but i want you to go back as far back as you feel it's helpful to frame up how god made you who you are why you're here today both boy of calling to come here the circumstances god worked to actually draw you off the field and now in a very real sense you know your hearts are still on the field and so let us know a little bit the story of joe and christy allen well when i was in high school art was my idol and i dreamt of going to a summer art school in in louisville kentucky paid for by the state of kentucky and i didn't get it and so i started looking for another way to spend my summer and someone actually a phd student at southern seminary invited me to go on a short term trip to the philippines then i got a call from the art school they said you were the first alternate and somebody dropped out you're in i got a call from the phd student he said joe i need your 300 deposit in by monday this was on a friday and i said jimmy i can't go i got accepted to the art school i'll never forget what he said he said i'm so sorry to hear that click that's back in the days when you hung up like right right right and back in the days with 300 was like 3 000. that conversation sent me into this turmoil inner turmoil wrestling with god what am i going to do am i going to go to the art school fulfill what i thought was my dream or obey this call that i felt tugging at my heart and i'm so glad i decided to go to the philippines i went over there i realized this is why i was born i was born to preach the gospel i know why i exist i know why i'm on planet earth it was also on that trip i met the girl i would later marry so that had a huge turning that was a huge turning point in my life went to the university of georgia we kept going on summer mission trips go dogs and we got to know each other better and better we fell in love got married in 2003 i started my studies at dallas theological seminary she was finishing her final year of her thm and then when i graduated by that point we had our daughter claire she was one years old and we went to bangladesh and that is where we served for two terms with imb then we moved across the border to india to calcutta and uh same language group same people group different religious group so we had been working in a rural muslim context and then we found ourselves in an urban hindu context our son joe he was born in bangkok thailand while we were serving in bangladesh but we went there for the delivery and uh and then about a year ago we came back to the states and we're delighted to be here as a footnote the jimmy that is referenced here is dr jimmy scroggins who pastors now at family church also known as first baptist church west palm beach florida and i called jimmy for reference on dr allen uh as uh as one ought to do and as jimmy was just gloating and glowing about the two of you he i asked him one question i asked him i said well what kind of preacher is is joe and he said he said he said well i've seen him preach many times overseas internationally and he said i'll tell you jason the settings he was in he said yes he's a gifted preacher but i say this without hyperbole i was more impressed that he was preaching in those places than how he was preaching and i said unpack that for me and he began to talk about in ways i know you would be comfortable doing about some of the personal hardships and difficult context that you guys put yourself in the middle of for the cause of christ overseas and he i never get that line at random mayor i was just so impressed that he was preaching so much more that i was even struck by how he was preaching christy weave your story into into this story absolutely so i came to christ as a young girl and at the age of nine my parents felt called to move our family and go to the philippines my dad had been a pastor and uh panama city the philippines that's right that's right and so as a nine-year-old little girl um i have a lot of vivid memories moving to the philippines and is very impacted by my time there so i was there from ages 9 to 14. and when we came when i came back to the states at the age of 14 ironically for for medical reasons and such as well i just remember as a teenager having to process and think through my experience overseas and what was i going to do and how was i going to move forward based on what i had experienced and honestly the experiences as a as mk in the philippines were hard i mean we went through some tough stuff my my mother almost died my brother almost died my sister had scoliosis we had people steal from us we had all kinds of different challenges but when i think back over that time overseas as a kid my overarching memories are of god coming through for us he saved my mom's life he saved my brother's life he healed my sister from scoliosis he provided for us in really extraordinary ways and even very personal ways for me as a kid things that i had prayed for as a kid god answered those prayers and i thought why would i not do whatever this god told me to do with my life why would i not just offer my life as a blank slate for him and so that's what i did at the age of 14. and then as i continue to do ministry and try different kinds of ministry and continue to go overseas i eventually figured out that my passion was teaching women and i loved teaching the bible to women and so then i thought well i better i better be more equipped for this and that led me to seminary and even at that point i was willing to go overseas i just didn't know what god's plan was and then when um god connected joey and i together so let me interrupt you yes joe's looking joe's liking yes you're looking what are you seeing in job by way of calling passion's heart that makes you think because you have this sense of god's put a burden in your heart for the nations you were there as a kid being trained perhaps to go back that's a precious thing to steward right and and and you if you marry this young man pursue him that that that sense of calling that stewardship is coming together what were you seeing in in in this dr alan at that point in time um for for you to to say yes this this this calling is will be well stewarded to be linked up with him yeah that's a that's a great question um interestingly in our story we met um pretty young but it wasn't it was until our fourth mission trip that it clicked and our fifth mission trip he proposed to me in the philippines actually um but i think you know so i had already started seminary at this point when when it finally clicked for for both of us um and in god's providence we actually were able to to be really close friends i think it's not the only reason to go on a mission trip but i will say it's a wonderful opportunity to really see people's true colors i mean because you can't you can't hide like in a normal dating relationship so you see the good the bad and the ugly you see the sweaty you see all of the the character in a person in that context and so seeing him over the course of multiple years serving and the way his in his heart for the lord i mean we we had so many theological discussions on jeepney rides and you know we by the time we finally started dating um it you know he's one of his first statements to me after we started dating was i i um i'd really like to impress you but you know me too well um and so it was just really cool how god wove our hearts during that season and even going to seminary before we'd even started dating and i was praying about marriage and just really wanting um god to to you know provide the right person if he wanted to be me to be married one of my prayers as a single was lord i only want to be married if it's gonna to be you know further the kingdom more by us being together and so it was i just you know i didn't know i didn't know if it ever would ever be clear for those of you who are single and you're at wrestling through those questions i didn't know if it ever would be clear but i really feel like god answered that prayer and made it super clear this was the man for me and even more than my calling overseas i felt called to this man and so when uh we we got married and we had this little tiny apartment and um at seminary across the street from the seminary and we had this big map on our wall and we were praying about all of our options and praying through and i you know i'm from the south um so y'all are gonna have to help me um figure out how to stay warm here but um i'm still trying to figure it out but i was like maybe we shouldn't go to russia and you know some of the colder places um anyway but eventually we narrowed it down to south asia because we felt like just learning more about south asia that it has the greatest number of the greatest uh number of lostness with the fewest number of missionaries and so um i think when god knitted our hearts together i thought you know i know he has a passion for the nation nation i have a willingness to go and do whatever god wants me to do why not me and it wasn't even for me the the um you know issue about going overseas wasn't necessarily like i love these people because i'd never really spent time with those people but it was really a by faith thing to say god if you're calling me to these people then you're gonna also give me a love and in his you know in his grace he did provide that for us and so you were overseas for about five years as a kid and then you guys as a family overseas for was it right at 15 years just just shy of 15. so that again that's not like a mission trip right that's not like a semester overseas i mean that's almost a generation and um and then god called you all back here and and then here to kansas city i'm going to draw dr deusing in the conversation i appreciate the two of you color coordinating by the way the green of the green tie the uh dr ducey i want to uh want to tee you up in two ways first of all most of us here know you as a scholar or as an academic administrator but there's a third you know real component to your to your calling your ministry that is a heart for overseas so i'd love you to say a word or two about that and then i would also love for you to say a word or two just about the allens as we were getting to know them and talk about them coming here what you saw in them that made you like me excited about god's calling them here there's a lot i could say so and as you know many of you know i don't have the gift of abundance of words so i will be i will have no trouble being concise but you can pull more out of me if you'd like but i came to christ as a freshman in college in texas in texas and just had wonderful disciplers primarily through the local church that i found southern baptist church and what i mean by wonderful disciplers is they i never knew there was a lot of christians have a gap between coming to christ and then oh later finding out you're supposed to share your faith and then also there's this whole world that we should be concerned about the people who mentored and discipled me from the beginning were just pointing me toward understanding the gospel and then sharing it on in my dorm i remember my college pastor said when i was in the dorm here's a piece of paper i used i charted every dorm room and who lived in each dorm room praying for them and then occasionally i would just go go by and check on each one and try to find ways to share the gospel every and then i'd check them off that type of thing at the same time giving me a heart for the nations of the world just phenomenally ingraining in me that there's a world out there and early on too that was even theological not just the great commission but even going back and understanding what god was doing in abraham and genesis 12 and how that's explained further in galatians 3 and romans 4 that from the beginning god has had a heart for the nations of the world his plan has always been to bless the nation of israel the people of israel so that the nations of the world be blessed and just connecting those dots and reading the bible that way you know so i just had wonderful training without even knowing that that's how you're supposed to be oriented so as i was processing through a call to ministry in college my first impulses were why would i not be thinking about international missions first rather than staying first um and even went off to seminary still working through those things and my wife and i processed that we southeastern seminary worked through should we be in the missions program should we not and and it was more of approaching that's the way we're going to head until god redirects us in other ways and longer story there is to even why we redirected to the role that we have now um but never really losing that that passion and conviction for overseas and for me in particular what was driving this was and this may identify with some of you whether at the college level at the master's level is i knew i was supposed to be in seminary i knew i was preparing for some sort of vocational ministry but never quite felt like i clicked all my friends in my classes were dreaming and laying awake at night about sermon preparation and serum illustrations or these types of things and i love preaching and of course love the bible growing my love for the bible but that i was like i'm not quite the same as all of you and um and looking back now on 20 something years or whatever i can even see god preparing for a path that was different than many of my peers some of that was an academic ministry but some of it also was a focus and ministry of missions around the world and it's created to me a deep deep love of course i love pastors in the local church but i love missionaries and i love students who are training for missionaries and i love visiting them on the field those called to serve in this way are a unique type of people if god has wired you a little bit different it could be because he's creating a new desire to feel more at home outside the united states than perhaps you do feel inside the united states and even though i haven't served any career since i've been on many short-term ministry trips and mission trips and things like this and invariably i often feel more at home in the diverse cultures of the world than i do i don't always feel like i fit in even in america you're saying like yeah i would never stop talking overseas right yeah so i i what did you say i said overseas you never stopped talking that's right overseas i actually i feel more like i can communicate better with other cultures than i can even i always feel a little awkward and out of place here and if that's how you feel it could be that god's wiring you in some ways now part of that i learned is that also god was preparing me for an academic ministry and faculty for those who are here well is a unique people group in and of itself we are strange individuals and are wired a little bit different way to be able to do what we do and some of it was you know of course preparing for that but i just say that to say that god can match a heart for the nations and use you in a variety of different lanes and avenues i think he's primarily mostly concerned about where is our orientation and are we pointing and doing the work that we're doing even here stateside toward helping either mobilize people too or to encourage and to equip and i just had a lot of great models and examples the last one i'll share is when i was a student at southeastern the person who served in my role there the head of academics was a guy named russ bush dr bush passed away in 2008 from cancer too soon but he was just a phenomenal model for me i remember even just observing him leading academics but then regularly regularly two or three times a year he was on the field visiting southeastern mission students teaching serving and i remember it clicking my mind i was like so that's a job you can invest in theological education which i was growing to love and just seeing the benefits for not only for the churches but for the nations but then you can also be traveling and seeing and encouraging the work i was like that's you can even do it but then so that's the example i had it was only later that i realized that actually most provosts don't operate that way he was a unique and rare example that god gave me that i was able to sort of even he blazed a trail that i was like i think i can i would want to do it the same way that he did yeah and secondly so um god and his kindness i believe has brought the both of you and the both of you to us uh of course echo that the journey we've both been on in the last you for 10 years and me since i've been here thinking through how to continue to revitalize the school and make it stronger so that we can equip people for the nations and praying and thinking through who might come and that the timing just worked with dr hattaway's moving into more retirement position and us finding people and i've been in some ways searching for the two of you for the entire time i've been here knowing that dr hattaway's time would be and some of that's like literal searching traveling to different affinities imb affinities meeting with imb leadership always asking them you know when you come across the right person yeah who could be and at a meeting with um south asia affinity leadership in january of last year asking them the same questions and that's where the name from a friend of yours who's now a friend of mine who teaches another school saying well you should really think about joe and christy allen and they're in the states now because of covet but are thinking through things and all this and so immediately just sort of working through that and us beginning to have conversations with them seeing that god really may be paving the way for you all to come and for all the reasons you've described in terms of your heart and passion all that god's prepared you to do and your unique service in south asia of which we've had a number of fusion students serving there but just given that experience and then getting to know the both of you i've i have got given me many opportunities to travel in many places all over the world meeting with imb uh missionary workers and families and to to really find and thankfully that we serve in a generation where the imb is just solid from top to bottom there hasn't been an affinity i've gone to where i haven't met just the most remarkable people in the world that always hasn't always been the case with imb decades ago you'd go to different pockets and you believe it or not they're people not actually sharing the gospel and that's wrapped into the larger story of the transformation of the southern baptist convention returning to a love for the gospel in the bible but even just hearing your story and knowing of the types of the type of ministry you're doing that's gospel centered and focused on sharing the gospel and leading people to christ and forming them in groups and leading them to plant churches that's the core of what you're doing of course it aligns incredibly with what the imb calls the missionary task and of course aligns absolutely with what we're trying to do here in training students before the church for the kingdom as well so i grew up in a relatively normal southern baptist church bible believing faithful pastor abnormal as far as kind of larger especially for for that generation of the 80s and into the early 90s i was a part of this archaic program as a kid known as royal ambassadors and the shorthand was ras and one of the distinctive marks of ras and then gas for the girls was it was a missions-based program we talked about missions all the time and then part of that in my church was periodically missionaries would come like share on a wednesday night or sunday night some sunday morning and i remember as a kid sitting out there and it all seemed so exotic to me and the missionary would be there some they were clothing from where they were serving i have a distinct memory as a kid with someone coming over from from the far east and and being and kind of talking through the the uh the alphabet and that eastern language and just and i'm just like my mind is blown as an eight-year-old watching all this and to me it seems so exotic so distant so remote and my impression was like to be a missionary like you're gonna go someplace and kind of never be heard from again and you know live with a monkey on your head and any kind of like it's a safari lifestyle and then of course i i grew to understand well no it's it's actually not like that and then given the technological changes since my childhood i mean all of this is so very near so very near and not only you know you go overseas and you send snail mail and exchange letters every three or four weeks but but no you can you can zoom now you can face time now and there's a nearness there i want to ask you guys this question even with that as far as the evolution of of the the nearness of the international scene um not just like why did you go i think we understand theologically and you guys have shared a bit of your story as to like why you went i think we get that that i'm in my 20s there's a sense of adventure and spiritual zeal but why did you stay leslie knew again has a great phrase he says missions begins with an explosion of joy and and there is the command the great commission is a command but leslie knew again says i think the deepest motive for missions is simply a desire to be where jesus is and where the kingdom of god is confronting on the on the frontiers of the kingdom of god uh confronting the domain of satan the usurped domain of satan and so when we first went to bangladesh we did have a sense of adventure and it's exciting and you feel like indiana jones and that kind of thing but that that only lasts so long after about four months we both hit a wall and we were homesick you know the food is starting to wear on you the sleeping under mosquito nets all the challenges um but we really believe that well it's interesting because when we first went there we thought god sent us to bangladesh so that bengalis could know jesus but after we'd been there a while christie actually said i've realized god sent us to bangladesh so that we could know him and and so you know i think it is right to honor those who serve faithfully in the ministry you know we we consider people like amy carmichael and jim elliott adonym judson these heroes of the faith but if you were to talk to them they wouldn't consider themselves heroes they would say we are unworthy servants we're just doing what we're told they would probably quote something from luke 17 10 something along those lines but what kept us on the field was we know we're where we're supposed to be and every time somebody came to faith it's another shot in the arm yes keep going keep pressing on um when we see lives transformed in august christy and i got to go back to calcutta we had to close down our apartment and um and we got the chance to tie up some loose ends because in 2020 we had to leave sort of suddenly because of covid christie got to do an eight hours uh women's training i got to meet some of the disciples i had met one of the young men that i had spent a lot of time discipling i call him one of my timothies i asked him i said have you been able to feed yourself spiritually over the past year and he said yeah and i said well how have you been feeding yourself spiritually and he said well for one i memorized everything you told me to memorize and i thought well that's great but i totally forgot what i told you to memorize he said james ephesians second peter second timothy and galatians wow and i was blown away and you should see the change in this young man he used to be involved in the occult he was involved in transcendental meditation all kinds of new age hindu philosophy and when he got saved i mean he was a fearful timid young man when he got saved he got free from all this oppressive darkness that was in his life and and now he's confident joyful bold he just told his parents recently that that he got baptized and two days later his grandmother asked him to share the gospel with her it's one of the things that sustained us was seeing lives transformed it's awesome i highly recommend it amen now christy it's not a concentration camp you weren't chained you know to the uh you're there's as a team and look there are times when when one of the spouses feel a sense of calling they're committed with the other just just wears out but you guys were there together and so we heard kind of joe's side i'm sure that's similar to your side but but what what kept you there why did you stay and partner and serve for 15 years um i really think it comes down for me to the love of god and several years into my time overseas after my son was born i had to have emergency surgery and i needed a specific kind of surgery and it wasn't available anywhere in bangladesh and we were crying out to the lord and so we felt led to go to this missionary hospital in the sticks of bangladesh and long story short they happen to have the specialized equipment needed to do this surgery for me and i remember walking down that road that day and i said god you love me in the middle of the sticks of bangladesh you knew what i needed and you took care of me and that was the beginning of many many challenges that we experienced but the thing that i think allows you to push through the hard stuff is knowing that he loves me and he never lets his kids go through hard things without a purpose and he wrote on my heart the message i will never waste pain god will never waste pain that's offered to him um and so he really he really worked through the pain and i went through a lot of physical challenges even after that but i never doubted the love of god because i knew he loved me and he he was going to be with me and yes there were so many challenges so many hard experiences that we went through but i think by my uh you know i think when you're full of the love of god it's it's an overflow and and it's also it also makes you want to obey him because you know his heart for you is good and his plans for you are good whether it's going to halfway around the world or whether it's whether it's going to kansas city um his plans for you are good and and trusting his heart has been has been something i learned in on the mission field but also that sustained me while living there thank you that's very touching time has just about expired here but but i want to ask you one final question and that is just the what i mean you're here you've relocated your family you guys are settling in kansas city um what do you hoping god will do through you guys here in the years ahead i see potential in this room i see excitement i sense eagerness i just feel that there are um people in this room that are going to lay down their life for christ and that is a weighty thing that's a serious thing but it's worth it we serve a great god and jesus is worth it he he's worth living for he's worth dying for um worth leaving kansas city barbecue for if it comes to that um so i hope that there are men and women in this room who unreservedly without hesitation live for jesus wherever that is whether that's at home or abroad and i know the faculty and and the administration is a hundred percent supportive of helping them accomplish that amen
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