Minisforum V3 FULL Walkthrough. Ryzen 7 8840U Windows 11 Pro Tablet

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Min forums you probably know them for their mini  PCS that I cover in my channel right well they've   sent this out to me which is their first tablet  it's a Windows 11 Pro tablet and they call it a   3 in one because it has the tablet form laptop  form with the keyboard attached as I'm showing   you now but if you power it off you can plug  into its additional typc Port that it has here   on the left a video input and it will turn into  a portable monitor so that's why they call it a   3 in one now this model here is powered by ryzen 7  it's the 8000 series The 8840 U up to 28 wat it's   got 32 GB of lpddr X Ram that's running at 6,400  Mega transfers 1 TB SSD 50w hour battery and the   screen which is an anti-le matte screen it's got  a resolution of 2560 x600 it's 14 in so it's a   nice large screen fully laminated supports this  an active stylus up to 4,096 pressure sensitive   levels and I'll be running through this model  here in a first look at what you can expect   out of mini forum's first tablet the V3 here's  what Min forums includes we've got a user manual   here a little bit of paperwork there is our power  supply very small supports power delivery up to   65 wats and this is the type-c to type-c cable  looking at the weight now of our V3 just the   tablet is 926 G but of course you're going to  need the keyboard and then the stand for that   and that is going to push our weight up then to  1.6 kilos almost so it's getting a little heavy   but it is 14 in bezels with our V3 they're not  too bad slightly thicker at the bottom here now   we have a fully laminated screen up to 500 nits  it's an anti-g pan it is IPS so you'll notice at   the edges there is a little bit of what I call  like a shadow coming in here into play and I do   see a little bit of light leakage but it's very  minimal just at the top and only want to have a   pure black image otherwise you're not going to  really notice that at all so the screen very   good touch response has been excellent I have  no problems with it at all I've noticed that   the accuracy is good and of course you can use the  stylus with it now with this screen here it does   have a good resolution and the refresh rate even  better so 65 HZ is the refresh if you got it in   the performance mode and well the resonan 2560  x600 so it's nice and sharp I can't see pixels   and then turning it into like a little laptop now  with this type cover style keyboard it's a little   different the kickstand on this model here on the  V3 normally you would pull the bottom up to act   as the stand but because we have the two vents  there we don't want to be blocking those when   we're using it so you have to pull it from the top  and it's a little stiff and that goes all the way   down and this way it's about as far as it will go  this way those vents there are open and then with   the PO pin connectors that is going to there we  go locked into place and you can now see that the   backlit keyboard is on and we are set there so  the package itself is looking I think it looks   a little dated compared to some of the other  2in one tablets that are out there especially   the keyboard it's almost like a retro style to me  from what I used to review about well a good five   four years ago but it's functional still a little  bulky and as I showed you with the weights there   adds a bit of weight the whole package and then  when you get yourself set up to move to another   desk or put it in your bag it's very easy just  to fold it down and of course slot that into a   bag first impressions of the touchpad are good  that finer movements the cursor is not skipping   around every it's one not one of those really  annoying touch pads the surface feels nice and   smooth and even though it is a little shorter than  what we typically see now with a lot of Ultrabooks   and laptops that have huge touchpads it's still  functional still works well I can still swap over   between all the tabs do what I need to I don't  feel like I need to reach now to plug in or add   a Bluetooth mouse or anything no it is good I do  like what I'm seeing with this touchpad left and   right and you can just hear those clicks with the  left and right Mouse button so it's working well   supports gestures too and then typing on this key  keyboard as well is good I have no problems with   they got about 1.4 mm or so of travel there and  it is back lit as you can see now so it's bright   enough that it's going to be great for some low  lit environments where you may be working saying   aircraft cabin right hand side we have two USB  4 ports these are 40 GB per second fingerprint   reader power button status LED so on it's just  a continue LED there when it's charging it is   flashing we have our spe is to either side you can  see the other ones right here now this typc port   is for our vlink and that stands for our video  link so this is the video end so it can turn   it into a monitor mode and I've never seen this  before on a Windows tablet never seen a fullsize   SD card reader which is really good to have this  here considering the power it has um all for this   and you see the SD cards when you do insert those  that they are going to be sticking out just a   little bit there all right that's how they're  going to be stick out a bit so you shouldn't   be able to damage it like that but just so you're  aware it doesn't go right all the way in it would   have been nice if it did click right in but hey  still for that our volume up and down and yes a   3.5 mm headphone out with mic support very quickly  the BIOS I wanted to show you a couple of things   here so the ram speed cannot be changed you can't  set it from 6,400 to 7500 unfortunately if you go   into the advanced menu where I am now go under AMD  CBS they do let us change a few things so it's not   the full advanced settings we get inside the BIOS  but some bits and pieces here so under MBI oommon   options this is probably the setting that most  people will be changing Graphics configuration so   they've dedicated any two GB to the 780m but you  can increase that up to 16 now I don't recommend   16 in my experience that is relatively unstable  I would go 8 GB maximum if you wanted to help   just boost up gaming performance and getting out  of this there is another setting in here that we   can go to which is our SMU commment options and  this is the system configuration it's referring   to our power limit so the TDP now I keep it on  auto so you can set that to 28 Watts Max and my   experience with the unit now testing it out a  few days 28 watts is really your limit because   you go up to 90° Celsius anything over that  you're going to start to Thermal throttle but   you can set it all the way up to 54 Watts again  not recommended so that's the only real settings   that we can change that are useful I wouldn't mess  about with anything else of course you do have uh   your secure boot you can disable your boot order  to as well if you wanted to boot from a USB pen   drive performance is good we've got that 32 GB  of RAM and it is running at 64 megga transfers   6,400 sorry Mega transfers so it is really quick  everything seems to pop in good there's no start   menu lag and touch response is good as I pointed  out there with the screen green so 1 tbte drive   and this drive is not particularly quick for pcie  4.0 speeds it's only just over 4,000 when it comes   to the reads 4,600 and rights getting near 4,000  there are drives that can do 7,000 here if you're   going to get something like a Samsung 980 Pro uh  upgradeability on this I think will be a little   bit complicated I am not going there with this  tablet sadly there's no just easy access hatch   on the rear of it random reads and wrs are good  however for the drive and everything it is good   fast okay it feels like a very quick tablet here  now bringing up and playing anything that is   demanding this is a jellyfish test file here 140  megabits per second 4K 10bit and you see that it   loads in quick I am on the battery battery here  at the moment and skipping the head not a problem   for it that playback is smooth it is not dropping  any frames at all and then file such as this one   here from Sony this is just mute those speakers  this is very quick runs at 60 frames per seconds   again there are no drop frames skipp ahead this is  what I've come to expect here from that Radeon 780   M2 which of course is the integrated Graphics  so good performance there from that now the   synthetic benchmarks that I have run these were  run before the Windows update thing popped up okay   and I did run them with it plugged in for maximum  performance using here that performance profile   when it was plugged in at the full 28 wats so you  can see with C bench this is the 2024 version we   get 100 points for the single core score and 759  for the multicore score now this is something you   can freely download run this on your own tablet  or PC to compare that performance see how much   of a upgrade and performance you're going to be  getting there and the other one was a geekbench   this is the version six of it and I get 2400 with  a single core score and just over 10,000 for multi   which is great so this shows that it is a it's a  very quick it's a powerful tablet here that Min   Forum do have and being their first I think you've  done an excellent job with it so far so this here   is the dashboard their own software that you got  a glimpse of just before so when you go into that   you can get device monitoring system detection  it's telling me danger here uh that's because   I need to run a scan with the virus according to  this account security I'm not when when you using   a Windows account at the moment so that's another  reason why that has popped up but there is no uh   spy wear on this that I've been able to detect  or anything like that I didn't see any dodgy   software which some of the Mini PC manufacturers  did have uh luckily for us mini Forum have never   had that issue it's been um Ace magic or one of  those similar kind of brands that did have some   concerning things but not with this model you see  the RAM usage and everything there device manager   you can take a look at different things in there  too of the V3 fre and a Windows upgrade and power   premium I don't know why they call it that power  premium that's the refresh rate it's swapping over   so you get up to the 165 in the performance mode  this is the power save mode just at 15 wats and   this right here is the balanced mode which is 18  watt TDP there and those last two modes they all   use the 60 HZ refresh rate just to help with  that battery life and it's telling me that it   doesn't want to be in the performance mode here  cuz it needs to be powered on and the battery L   needs to be at least 20% because I don't have  the power plugged in at the moment but all the   benchmarks are did run as I mentioned were with  that power mode so it's a powerful potent here   tablet we've got from Min Forum of course with  Windows we get an onscreen keyboard and it is   fine to use but I always prefer having an  actual physical Hardware keyboard so much   better but just to show you that it does work  well now the stylus it's got the 496 pressure   sensitive levels it seems to be instantaneous  very quick there is really no lag whatsoever   Palm rejection is there uh hover feature so from  about that's 2 3 cm now about approximately a cm   and a half is where it does work and you can see  I've got that uh little cross on the screen there   where the stus is now the accuracy of it is very  good it's right where the ni is exactly so that   is good to see and The Stylist does does it work  right up to the edge of the screen it certainly   does you can see it's right there right on the  edge every time it seem to use that it seems to   work wherever I am on the screen although okay  there you know all good okay so that is working   fine and a quick little handwriting test here  hello whoops World messy handwriting but good   and of course we've got the sensor on board gyro  auto rotation all of that is working this is just   a pre view of what you can expect out of the  stylus does seem to be very accurate very fast   and a lot of people probably going to be after  that and that's how it sits again on the screen   there on the top there magnetically the mini 4M  V3 has four built-in speakers either side good   stereo separation little bit of Base not a lot  as you can expect from a thin well relatively   thin Windows tablet the sample I'll give you  now is at 100% volume and you can hear that   it's good it's loud enough and nothing amazing  but they're not disappointing either it's what   I've really come to expect from this style of 2  in one tablet although they call this a 3 in one   I think the speakers are fine adequate I would  rate them out of 10 is about like a six out of   10 but here's a sample now at that 100% volume  so you can get an idea of what they do sound [Laughter] [Music] like brief look at gaming  performance this is The Witcher 3 which keeps   crashing on me and for some reason it's going  to do it again it's just not going to work   it's going to cause the whole system here to  reboot so something's going on I looked at The   Thermals they seem to be fine but it's hard  for me to actually get a log of that because   it keeps resetting itself once I try to play uh  any games so not a good sign at all and this is   from trying to play from external storage from  internal storage and and it is the performance   mode I am testing it out in which is supposed to  be that 28 wats so this is now the third time it   has done this trying to test games it would just  reboot on me unacceptable any game that does work   is Assassin's Creed Valhalla now I have it set to  the low preset and the radon 78m is handling this   just fine giving me 40 frames per second at 800p  so this is working all right at least this game   does want to work and and so far testing it out I  have not seen any reboots at all playing this game   it just seems to be the Witcher for some reason  that will not run and causes some random reboot   error with the V three tablet here and the last  synthetic Benchmark I wanted to show you just with   this brief handson is time spy so I expected this  to be a little better what I can get out of many   PCs that have a similar kind of chipset which  which would be the 7840 HS can do around well   2800 here for the graphics score and 3,000 points  this is a little under that with the 8840 U now I   did set it with the of course high performance  mode that is the 28 Watts for our TDP and this   is the result this is the second time I did run  it and that's just what it is but for a tablet   it is still very powerful good performance right  there so that's great as for The Thermals and fan   noise well you are going to hear it a little bit  especially when it's plugged in okay you'll hear   the fan and when it's underload it's not too bad  that fan noise it's not as loud as them many PCs   I don't find it personally too offensive they've  got the four copper transfer Pips in there then   the two fans right there that I showed you when  we looked at the the back of the device and 90°   C is the hottest it did get up to running all the  stress test benchmarks and all of that so not bad   thermals are okay that didn't trigger thermal  throttling I mean it's getting a little hot but   it's still well reasonable there and it pulled  here 21 wats for some reason I don't seem to   be able to get that 28 Watts that this is capable  of in again that high performance mode that I did   have selected and it was plugged in when I ran all  those bench marks and using our mini Forum V3 here   as a secondary display as a monitor as possible  you just got to power it off plug something in   that supports it so right here I've just plugged  in a Samsung Galaxy s24 Ultra it's using their   desktop mode and oh that's probably my cable seems  a little touchy there what I've noticed is that   this is a little disappointing is there's no touch  support now I thought this would work cuz I have   a portable monitor that I can plug in with this  phone and I get the touch support so this is a bit   of a let down here that it doesn't seem to support  that what it is supporting though at least Samsung   is is the keyboard that does seem to be working  okay so I can bring things up on there and as you   can see I'm using our touchpad with the keyboard  okay so the touchpad does work I can launch things   from here I can jump into uh Gallery right now  take a look at that load up some of my images and   whatnot so that is all working and you can plug  in a Nintendo switch anything really anything that   is going to support type-c video in you can also  get adapters and whatnot for that so it's a good   option to have in a nice little extra with the V3  3 in one tablet now if you did want to run Linux   I managed to get it running this is mangaro with  open- Source drivers and the touch is working now   you saw that flickering just happening before I  don't know why it's doing that it's something to   do with the graphics drivers I believe why it's  doing that flicker Bluetooth working Wireless   is working and the keyboard and everything else  does seem to work and audio too so that's good   looks like it'll be able to run Linux no problem  so my first impressions are as follows here for   their first attempt at a tablet they've done an  excellent job I do like the screen I think that's   the best part of it it's fantastic it's really  bright even brighter than their claim with 523   knits according to my spider X that I've used to  measure the screen and it's got great color gamut   the coverage that this screen can deliver as well  the IPS panel it's fully laminated the anti-le   coating is one of the best parts about it so you  don't get all that horrible terrible annoying   glar touch is very good the response the accuracy  the stylus does seem very accurate we have those   pressure sensitive levels and then the performance  as I pointed out is good for a tablet however I   sometimes have problems getting into that higher  power mode it will sometimes run like some of the   benchmarks that I showed you like times bu it  at 17 Watts instead of 28 watts and the game   The Witcher was crashing just wouldn't run for me  now I don't know whether that's to do with Mini's   Forum or I think it's probably the AMD drivers  maybe with this chipset being relatively new   although the radon 78m Graphics isn't new so it  shouldn't really be happening there but it is and   I wanted to report on that with you now battery  life so far in my testing I've only been using   this for a day that you're looking around about  at least 8 hours and that's where the brightness   set to 30% using the power saving mode that 15  wats and it still performs reasonably well for   General kind of tasks at that kind of wattage but  if you want the best performance you want to put   it into the high powered mode and you will hear  those fans now in battery mode like right now just   Idle No oh tiny little bit of fan noise so they're  very low RPM when it ramps up what does it sound   like well it's pretty much like an Ultra Book is  exactly what this really sounds like with the duel   fans like a thin Ultra Book really similar kind  of sound from there is it annoying well you hear   it I wish it was passive sorry yeah passively  cool would have been great but with that kind   of power course it does need to be actively cooled  there speakers do sound good there's a couple of   little niggly little things that I've noticed that  sometimes when you go to connect up the keyboard   that it doesn't there we go then it connects in  properly and sometimes it doesn't work straight   away you have to have a second attempt at it it's  only a very minor thing the kickstand is kind of   unusual how you have to pull the top down and  at first I wanted to pull the bottom up which   you can do but then the magnet doesn't really  hold it that well and I realized it it can't be   the top that you use as the base for the kickstand  because it would block the intake there of course   for those two fans so that is the most upright  angle is there okay and then you can put it all   the way back any further than that when you start  to press on the screen it will drop down if you   press really hard if you're going to be using  the stylus of course this is the thing that it   can easily pop off the kickstand for it which is  a minor annoyance I really wish that Min Forum had   put stronger magnets in that that's just me being  a little bit of nitpicking there the other is the   look of the machine I know you can't judge a book  by its cover it's a powerful Windows 11 Pro laptop   uh but the bezel you know they make it look like a  5-year-old machine the style of the keyboard looks   a little similar to those tickl tablets that I was  reviewing like five or six years ago it has that   bit of a almost like a retro kind of look to it I  wish it would looked a little bit more modern but   touchpad good keyboard good back clip it really  is a good package here but I don't believe it's   going to be cheap I don't know the exact pricing  because I look on their website it's not showing   yet but I believe and don't quote me on this  figure that is going to be well over I think   uh $300 us for this I don't know what they're  going to sell in terms of storage configurations   or whether they will go up to 64 GB of RAM they  probably might just stay at 32 I think for most   users that's ideal that's fine but if you want a  Windows 11 laptop with a matte display highrise   display High refresh rate also can double as a  secondary monitor and you want AMD well this is   it this is really all we have we're not getting  a lot of Windows 11 tablets anymore are we and   it's good to see that Min forum is now jumping  into this area as well along with their mini PCS   their motherboards and hopefully more products for  from them there so that for a first look here is   all I'm going to cover in this video there may be  a followup video later on but very promising here   from min's Forum they price it right they can  just work on some of those mind little things   then I think it could be a very good Windows  11 tablet thanks a lot for watching this video
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