Michael Franzese on Gregory Scarpa aka "The Grim Reaper" Allegedly Killing 120 People (Part 7)

so i want to talk about some of the people that you used to be associated with uh the first is gregory scarpa who was the main hitman for colombo boss persico now this guy had some aliases can you tell me what they are uh the grim reaper that's the one i know of well let me correct something when you say he was the main hitman for percicle this is another fallacy that people don't understand when you take that oath and you come into that life uh vlad you are capable of doing what you need to be what needs to be done and i got to be careful how i talk about this because i'm not one of those guys that go out there and want to brag about you know i killed 100 guys and all that nonsense okay but you're expected okay to to be able to do work when you need when it's when it's called upon you to do it and you understand what i'm saying we're all capable everybody is capable or you wouldn't be part of that life you couldn't take the oath if you weren't capable of doing that now here's the way it goes there are some people you reach a certain level in that life there are some people that that are earners and obviously it's important to earn money for the family so if you have that ability and you know how to use that life to benefit you in business to benefit the family and business well you're going to move in that direction if you're a guy that's basically a hanger on and you you know you don't have that ability to earn money well then you're going to be called upon to do other things because you still have to have a value in that life so it's not that you're more capable it's just that that becomes your role because you're not capable to earn the money like other guys can so yeah i'll say this about greg greg was both greg earned money okay he was an earner in that regard but he also maybe i should say he enjoyed doing the work he enjoyed it me personally i wasn't a big fan of greg's he wasn't just a real pleasant guy to be around you know it was that way and i was around him a lot because he was you know we were on carroll street in brooklyn quite a bit but you know you know the story with him a lot of it is exaggerated but a lot of it is true well why was he called the grim reaper because it seems like he enjoyed doing the work you know there was some guys that honestly they enjoyed doing it i mean that was their thing and he i think falls into that category and he uh he wasn't a a very affable guy he didn't have a smile on his face all the time you know he's very serious in that regard so i guess that's why he got the name i didn't name him but you know she certainly got that name well according to the fbi they believe that he murdered up to 120 people here's here's my feeling let me explain this guys that i don't know where there's a hundred guys in that life to kill i mean you don't kill 100 guys when you're in the war in vietnam i i don't know one soldier that can claim to kill a hundred guys and he's at war where are these guys how could you kill a hundred guys if you killed 100 guys you'd wipe out the whole colombo family we had 115 guys so i mean this is it's it it's it's beyond belief uh vlad when somebody is telling you this that every day they kill somebody else every day they beat somebody else up it's nonsense now look my father allegedly who was one of the main enforcers for the colombo family they only had him at 30 or 40. i guess he wasn't that capable right and that's according to the fbi but even that my father said that mike i'm he's dead now i can talk he said mike i killed a lot of guys but it wasn't what the fbi said my dad told me that he has no reason to lie to me we were both made guys so how do you kill 120 guys yeah i mean i'm going through the story uh i guess in 1991 uh they say he committed three murders but then they was suspected a minimum of 80 murders between the 50s and 92 and then in total they're saying from 120 people were killed under this guy all right i spent 25 years in that life 25 years vlad i can count on on both hands the number of guys that i know that were murdered i spent 25 years i mean that i personally have knowledge of now you know maybe any other families doing stuff but one guy in one family how could he kill 120 guys i i find that very hard to believe even if the family went to war my dad was in in the war and he can't claim that many killings i mean it doesn't make sense you do the math well he was also called the mad hatter yeah that's true i forgot that one man had it what's that what's that about again you know the guy he wasn't a likable guy he wasn't an affable guy you know he talked about you know violent things more than another guy might have so you know some of these guys were crazy i gotta be honest with you they were a little loony you know and i he falls into that category well i guess he became an informant for like 30 years that's what we heard and boy that was terrifying news you know even for me because you know as a captain i was around him quite a bit and we had a lot of discussions about certain things and i said man this guy's going to put me in trouble too you know i mean i didn't know so yeah when you hear that you know it's like willie boyd johnson who is in uh uh gotti's crew you know i was very close to him i was shylocking money with him and i heard he was an informant for years and years and years i thought maybe i would have a problem with him i never did thank god but yeah i mean it was it was frightening information when you hear that about somebody that was so close to us right because he was a capo for the colombo family yeah and you were a captain so that's is that below a capo no it's the same thing listen the the technical italian mafia term is kappa regime that's it okay but you shorten it to say capo but the technical term is kappa regime that's what everybody among each other we called each other kappa regime soldier boss on the boss console that's how we spoke among each other okay and i guess uh scarpa as he was working with the fbi he was tied into the whole mississippi burning story where i guess the fbi brought him to mississippi to go hunt down the klansmen that were involved in the murders and he actually managed to do it that's correct yeah crazy uh he eventually contracted hiv correct and i believe he died of aids right he did he died of age

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Published: Mon Jun 22 2020