tonight a revelation from a prime minister let me reiterate I want to be absolutely crystal clear that will send shockwaves around the world it was understood at the highest levels that this was almost certainly what did Canberra really know if that's true then that would have to point to some kind of cover-up it seems a key piece of evidence though doesn't it do they ever mention fire onboard hijack terrorism and the pilot bombshell we'd also tracked down the mystery woman a woman about 20 years his junior maybe it wasn't a good family man [Music] two days before the flight she'd sent him a message [Music] so do you know where it is yeah it's not much further no it's not much further how can you leave our families out there find out what went wrong and make sure it doesn't happen again well let's get out and explore [Music] the untold story of mh370 continues to know [Music] it's 12:42 in the morning local time in kuala lumper when Malaysia Airlines flight mh370 takes off bound for Beijing now of the 239 passengers or crew I ever seen or heard from again and the mystery surrounding the planes disappearance has only deepened as the years have passed part of what forms the whole mh370 mystery are all the wild conspiracy theories about what might have happened to it all you need to do is look online to see some of the more colorful explanations but it's in the Cambodian jungle or was sucked into a black hole maybe even the Russians have got it but experts citing real-life examples have narrowed it down to a handful of likely scenarios all of them end up in the same place how it got there is what divides opinion [Applause] [Music] captain zaharie ahmad shah was a 53 year old pilot with 18,000 flying hours mh370 was his final flight he lived here in this gated community in Kuala Lumpur's upmarket Shah Alam he was a married father of three adult children and a grandfather known as re to his friends and uncle re to his many nieces and nephews he's an intriguing figure and he's got quite a lot of aspects to him by all accounts he was a superb pilot absolutely full of capacity to train others and whose face seniors and his fifties highly respected highly liked he seemed to be a fun guy this is a YouTube video that me the service in his downtime captain Shah also made videos for his own YouTube channel morale in the background here is his home flight simulator he's a jovial person a very friendly guy easily approachable he's also a good family man a good father to history three children this is young Sahara Shah back in his early flight training days when he was chosen by Malaysia Airlines to join its cadet pilot program his love of flying is well-documented he even built and flew model aircraft in his spare time is it possible that he hijacked the plane and killed those people I absolutely didn't agree with that why I don't see him as a person who could do that Sahari was politically active and a distant relative of Anwar Ibrahim the country's opposition leader who was convicted of sodomy a day before the doomed flag he was said to be quite upset by that verdict now he was active in the party but again there's no claiming responsibility in any of this but that's one lead again it would it be enough for him to take such drastic action without saying he did it difficult to say it's also claimed as a hurry had affairs and his marriage was in trouble all denied by his family and friends a woman about 20 years his junior with whom he had clearly a fairly close relationship she denied that it was of a sexual nature but she said she broke this relationship off some months before the flight but two days before the flight sent him a message and what's that message that she wouldn't divulge so there you know a lot of tantalizing things that go in various directions but again I don't think there's any smoking gun in any of this do you know that would be true that maybe he wasn't a good family man well I will take that with a pinch of salt really because I believe that the media has sensationalized as and misled the story to believing that he has to paint a picture that he has a troubled family life I didn't believe that the man had had two houses and three cars and there's no evidence that he had life insurance he had some political interests in in Malaysia but if he was doing it for a cause then surely that cause would have been made public so none of the theories are perfect and none of all of the theories about its law flawed but but the the end line there the end of the line is the aircraft did change dramatically its course and headed out to sea to a place where it would be very very difficult to find when I I first heard of this of this disaster I rang the Malaysian Prime Minister and I offered Australian assistance that assistance was was very gratefully accepted it became apparent after a few days that the plane had followed a very different course and we dramatically scaled up our involvement in that search mh370 vanished during Tony Abbott's tenure as Prime Minister a time when he enjoyed what he calls a strong and constructive relationship with his Malaysian counterpart Najib Razak he was a good friend to Australia since then embroiled in an unrelated corruption scandal Rose arks career has imploded I don't comment on the domestic issues which have since brought him low but he was a good partner and he was a good friend to Australia while captain zaharie chars family and friends may well be certain of his innocence Tony Abbott was left in no doubt about who was responsible it was pretty obvious that someone had been in charge of that aircraft the aircraft do not do the kind of thing that that aircraft did unless someone is at the controls [Music] my understanding my very clear understanding from the very top levels of the Malaysian government is that from very very early on here they thought it was murder-suicide by the pilot they said that to you I'm not going to say who said what to whom but let me reiterate I want to be absolutely crystal clear it was understood at the highest levels that this was almost certainly murder suicide by the pilot mass murder suicide by the pilot how long after the plane disappeared did that information become clear to you within a matter of a week or so what's interesting about this admission is that the Malaysians never named or blamed captain zaharie at least not publicly despite media reports that plane was hijacked I wish to be very clear we are still investigating for possibilities as to what caused mh370 even when Malaysia finished its final report in 2018 it wasn't willing to point the finger the team is unable to determine the real cost for the disappearance of the image trista burn serum Malaysia's official report into mh370 provided nothing substantial it was vague on detail but most significantly gave the pilot the all clear the report said it couldn't have been zohary because his mental state was satisfactory and his ability to handle stress at work was good he had no history of apathy or anxiety nor were there any behavioral changes that raised any concerns what was the reasoning that the Malaysians gave you well it was crystal clear to me that they had a very clear understanding that this almost certainly was what had happened today point to any evidence at that point did they say we found this I heard from this no no when you're dealing at this level if you are told that something is the clear understanding you don't need to go into a vast amount of detail if that's true then that would have to point to some kind of cover-up look that's not my assumption at all and I've read all these stories that the Malaysians allegedly didn't want the murder-suicide theory pursued because they are embarrassed about one of their pilots doing this I have no reason to accept that why didn't you say something about this at the time well at the time and I had a lot to say this at the time but at the time I was focused on filing the client seven days after MH 370's disappearance Malaysian police searched zaharie's home and find on his flight simulator practice runs to the southern Indian Ocean just one month before the doomed flight it's a stunning piece of evidence which isn't made public until it's leaked 18 months later now the significance of that is that there's nowhere to land anywhere near where that track took it at the end there no ireland's there's nothing and so my process saying that flight on his flight simulator he was practicing what could only be a suicide murder flight you must also remember that there were 2700 flight simulations in his simulator and only a few are all these 2700 and I'm in South Indian Ocean but doesn't that strike you as unusual nothing unusual because it's very common for pilots to practice reaching for 100 somewhere closer well dead I do not know I can explain why he chose something an ocean of course look um that sort of stuff is not something that as Prime Minister you would expect to be officially briefed on it seems a key piece of evidence though it doesn't and backs up that theory that well it was merciless well well the most obvious explanation is invariably the best explanation today ever mention fire on board that's not something that was ever discussed with me hijack terrorism not something that was ever discussed with me the clear understanding from very early on was that this was mass murder suicide by the pilot [Music] grace Nathan has every reason to feel anger towards the pilot her mother was on board mh370 but a lawyer by trade she won't accept mr. Abbott's claim at face value I find it hard to believe because it's still not supported by any evidence even if the Malaysian government were to say that there what did they base that off of what information is it that they have that led them to that conclusion that they haven't shared with us now do you blame the pilot while I am open to the possibility you could have been a pilot I do not blame the pilot grace Nathan is stuck in the past memories of love and loss are on a painful permanent loop well my mom was like the center of the family the glue that held everyone together she was always at home so whom was associated - mom - mom wherever mom was that was home how often do you think about her every day grace was sitting her final lor exams in England when she received a distressing midnight phone call from her father in Beijing and he said book of lightning come home and I too asked him why what happened and then he said if something happened to the plane 'i'm your mother was on and i just remember that very moment like I dropped the phone like the phone just fell out of my hand grace may reserve judgment for the pilot but she does blame the Malaysian government I think I was angry from the very beginning because story kept changing and we found out that there was a lot of mistakes made I like the military the Malaysian government and things that they could have done differently that would have I mean even if they couldn't recover the pain at least it would have known where it was because we know that things are a lot worse than what they could have been because of the incompetence ease somehow grace held herself together she clung to the hope it was all a misunderstanding and the plane would eventually be found intact until the flaperon washed up on Reunion Island it's clearly from an aircraft and the barnacles indicate it's been in the ocean for some time for me that was the straw that broke the camel's back because I think that was the first time I had to acknowledge that there's nearly the being did crash despite evidence stacked up against the pilot grace still doesn't entertain criticism but rather shares concern for his family who she believes are also victims so you're still willing to give the pilot the benefit of the doubt yes definitely like that is really unfair to just pin it on the pilot when you don't know for sure because that affects a lot of people especially his family his children I'm an adventurer I'm an explorer and different people call me the debris searcher or the wreck hunter or the real-life Indiana Jones because I'm finding things that other people are unable to find the Beachcomber of Beachcomber that's fine Blaine Gibson is an unlikely hero a lawyer by trade who sold his house in California and spends the money seeing the world it's been my goal since I was seven years old to go to every country in the world how many countries you up to 185 190 there are 195 in the world independent countries I've been to 185 of them Gibson became obsessed with the mh370 mystery so he flew to the countries where oceanographers predicted debris could wash up in Mozambique country number 177 on his list he found the planes no step panel after searching with a local fisherman suddenly Sulaimon who was the boat owner called me over he said Blaine is this the plane is this Malaysia 370 and it was a grey triangular object and I walked over to him and it said no step on it and then I knew that it was aviation and I analyzed it and they confirmed it and they used the words almost certainly from Malaysia 370 so no step was a big step you know so it was a big step yes that big step gave Gibson momentum he was hooked next stop Madagascar on the first day we found three pieces of debris which was one was the panel that goes right above the flapper on and it was also from the right side of the plane and then at the end of the day it was the piece that holding it in my hands it made me cry it broke my heart and and that was the case around the TV screen on the back of the seat in front of you this is a piece of the seat from the main cabin I'm holding right in my hands and this is probably the last thing that somebody saw to date 32 pieces that are believed to be from mh370 have been found at different locations around the world so you've got a debris field in six countries Tanzania South Africa Mozambique Lorraine Union Mauritius Madagascar Blaine with the help of locals has collected over half of them 17 pieces of debris either suspected or now confirmed to be from the wreckage of mh370 what I have found makes it very clear to me that the plane crashed in the southern Indian Ocean somewhere north of say 36 degrees south latitude a lot of people saying oh the main cabin is intact underwater somewhere no it's not this plane tragically shattered on impact this plane is not intact underwater all of the debris that I have found and held in my hands says to me the word shattered pieces of the interior category pieces of the tail pieces of the wing the landing gear door so we know that it was a very high-speed impact it is probably the most difficult search in history what does it say to you though that after all this time it still hasn't been found look it says to me that we should still be looking it says to me that if at first you don't succeed try try and try again because this is not something that a decent people and I'm not just referring to Australia here I'm referring to all of the countries who had citizens on that plane this is not something that a decent people can let go coming up it's about a thousand kilometres my very clear understanding from the very top levels of the Malaysian government life for what it was were you told I don't recall ever being told that explicitly so someone like Byron Bailey might be right yes as far as I'm concerned it's game over we know where this we've always never [Music] it wasn't so long ago that Malaysia Airlines was ranked among the top 10 in the world it was a great source of national pride but after 2014 following two fatal crashes it slipped way down that list to be fair one plane was shot down over a war zone and while the other was the likely doing of a rogue pilot so the company can't be completely to blame but investigations were bungled in a PR nightmare that lurched from one problem to the next and a once mighty brand is now permanently stained when Malaysia Airlines flight 370 disappeared from radar screens in the early hours of the 8th of March 2014 captain zaharie Shah was the pilot in command [Music] by very clear understanding from the very top levels of the Malaysian government is that from very very early on here they thought it was murder-suicide by the pilot this is what then Prime Minister Tony Abbott was told in private about a week after the plane vanished it's information that's critical in determining where in the southern Indian Ocean mh370 is likely to have ended its flight did you share that information with Warren trusts a or your government departments to help define the search area what I believed was happening and what I certainly expected to happen was that the search would cover the maximum possible range of that aircraft I had no reason to think that the search was being restricted on the basis that the pilot had nothing to do with it in the early stages of the search the Malaysian government believed it was a suicide mission and that the Australian government was told about that were you aware of it well it was always considered that you know one of the one of the possibilities and probabilities that it was a murder-suicide Warren trust was federal Transport Minister and Deputy PM at the time he was one of the key decision-makers in the search so you were told about that I'm sure we're aware of that but what do you mean we were you told I can't recall a particular day when the Malaysian is called and and and said that but I think everyone had come to that conclusion three weeks into the hunt for the missing aircraft former chief of defense sir Angus Houston was brought in to coordinate the search we haven't found anything anywhere that has any in his role he participated in meetings at the very highest levels what did the Malaysian PM tell you about what he thought happened he didn't he didn't indicate and what he thought had happened I needed it Prime Minister Abbott so the prime minister at the time never told you know what the Malaysian leader told him no so murder/suicide never came up no no I don't recall ever being told that explicitly by anyone in authority in Malaysia that that was the case I was kept in touch with the police in Malaysian police investigation both directly and through the Australian Federal Police but no one ever passed on to me that level of certainty from the Malaysians Martin Dolan's role in the hunt for mh370 was critical as head of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau at the time he spent the final two years of his career on the search I look back on it with primarily with regret that we weren't able to deliver particularly for the families what the answer is that they were so desperately looking for is that something that still nags at you of course it's not the sort of thing you can easily give away when you devote that much of your time and focus to one thing not to succeed in the task of finding the missing aircraft yes and you review everything you think did we get something wrong should we have done it differently all of those things yes both the Minister for transport and the ATSB based their parameters for the search on what's described as a ghost flight or a death dive meaning the pilot was also dead when the plane ran out of fuel at 40,000 feet you once said it was highly highly likely the plane was on autopilot at the end do you still think that well I think that it's likely that there was no one alive on the aircraft in the last few hours clearly there was a somebody directed the or directed the course that the aircraft took to make the turns to the to the west and then to the south that was obviously under some kind of human intervention at that time but I suspect that it was on autopilot from then on and whether there was anybody alive he's a metaphor conjecture so you haven't changed your mind when it comes to that I am of the view there that there was no one alive on the plane for the last few hours okay left engine is quitting if that was true if no one was in control when mh370 ran out of fuel it would have spiraled into what's known as a death dive cliff don't you shut down in a triple sevens simulator pilot Byron Bailey shows me what if that were the case would have happened five 70 knots that's about a thousand kilometres an hour [Applause] oh this is gonna hurt the plains design meant it would corkscrew increasing speed until it plunged into the ocean so you're gonna see the sea coming up that's a big crash horrendous you would have exploded into millions of it's the final end of flight scenario is crucial to establishing the possible location of the mh370 wreckage byron bailey has always maintained the search zone was wrong he says it couldn't have been a death dive he believes the pilot glided the plane as far as possible and landed it on the water outside the search zone just after sunrise so he could see the swirl all the evidence points to the fact that was ditched and I'm sure the captain brilliant captain as he was brilliant pilot was trying to ditch the aircraft in pain as far south remote location as possible and leave as little wreckage as possible that would see Myron Bailey's started out as a young navigator turned fighter pilot with the New Zealand Air Force and went on to fly Boeing triple7 s for the Emirates Airline for 15 years he's been an outspoken critic of the search and our government's handling of the disaster saying about 200 million taxpayer dollars was wasted on searchers that found nothing this time they came clean admitted that the ats-v was a rogue outfit that had no oversight that made a stupid suggestion initially to avoid embarrassing the Malaysians and the Malaysian just sit back through this whole thing they never agreed with the ATS be that it was a catastrophic event that rendered the pilots unconscious or bad or whatever the Malaysians said right was that it's human intervention and they said it's human intervention I knew what are they gonna tell me we're not talked about Byron Bailey are they gonna say the old man is bonkers well sure I've been flying airplanes for over 50 years got thousands come on Boeing triples 26,000 hours total no I actually fall in the category of being an aviation expert my colleagues like my keen it was chief pilot of UK's largest airline he's along with me he's an expert my concern in this case for those who say that the aircraft question so-called ghosted flight they made up their minds near the start that this occurred so they're looking for supporting evidence all the way along the line to collaborate that apart sometimes it's convenient to turn you back on something as far as government's concerned what are you referring to their countries that protect about Iranian organizations Airlines reputation set cetera like byron Bailey Mike keen began his aviation career as a navigator with the New Zealand Air Force he too became a fighter pilot and survived a catastrophic crash ejecting with just seconds to spare so that was your plane yeah thousands of pieces yeah the whole aircraft was from the cockpit that was just a big ball of fire you're lucky to be alive Mike yeah really likely he went on to fly commercial airliners around the world the government says it looked at all possible theories well that heaven because they didn't look at yours yeah they didn't look at Byron's we've worked independently on this it's not as if we've all got together in the room and said well this is it and in fact the positions that we work waiting are slightly different we came from different directions haven't reached the same conclusions despite their parallel careers my keen and Baron Bailey had never met before the disappearance of mh370 it's their shared interest in how the flight ended that has brought them together I've got other people behind me there are seriously qualified people but then I listened to any of us just ignore us both Byron and Mike say they know exactly where to search for the wreckage of mh370 they should be searching looking further south what they've done is they've made up a point there I'm doing a search on the assumption the aircraft has gone into officially a vertical dive why didn't they take into account and do a search on information which came from people like ourselves I'm going a little bit further south on the assumption that the aircraft did not go into a vertical dive but did a landing on that on the water where is the wreckage in your view I think it's probably the best part of about 150 cases for the south and whether searching at the moment [Music] weary cruise the 39,000 feet back in the flight simulator byron shows me what he thinks happened hello engines running there looks like we have flamed them out at 40,000 feet and out of fuel he glides the plane as far as he can he would have ditched him to win to keep the speed down as much as possible to avoid a lot of wreckage so this will try and do when Byron recreated the death dive the plane crashed within a few minutes of passing the seventh arc is I haven't got the gear down this time we fly for almost half an hour that's why I deferred for a [ __ ] reaching at least 130 kilometres in distance and in Byron's view past the search zone okay I start to flare now [Music] we hit the water so do you know where it is yeah where is it letter to 39 10 southeast 88 18 if Byron's right this is it just outside the search zone that's very specific yep what if you're wrong well let's just say the ATS be it's part of they are searching 40 miles either side of the arc came within about 30 kilometers aware we reckon the airplane ditched if I'm wrong then it means the earth plane has probably been taken by aliens or is sitting in a hangar somewhere in Kazakhstan that's how sure you are absolutely bet anything on it in that specific spot I'll bet my house on it it's far so I'm sure it's game over we know where this we've always know where it is the ATSB did consider the possibility of a controlled ditching and found by using a triple sevens simulator it was possible but like Blaine Gibson the 80s be concluded the small pieces of debris indicated a high-speed impact with water that was not consistent with a controlled ditching however over time Martin Dolan changed his mind he still believed that it was a final bout of control dive I think the evidence is less as clear now given that we have managed to eliminate most of the area associated with that scenario so if you had your time again where would you search there's nothing fundamentally different that we would do we just now have some additional information which has been brought to bear and still leads to the conclusion that the most likely location is in or around this the area that we have been searching that means there's an increasing likelihood that there was some one of the controls at the end of flight does Australia face any blame well we were looking in the wrong place we were we were obviously guided in the choice of that place by experts around the world there was a multi-nation agreement that this was the place that we should look so someone like byron bailey might be right yes he might be right I don't disagree with any of the basic assumptions of byron has you already searched 120,000 square kilometers of ocean why not search another 7,000 more well and then another 10,000 after that we had already increased the search area and on a number of occasions and it was a multinational agreement that any further search was less likely to find the aircraft now with the benefit of those areas being eliminated anyone can come up with a third best option but how far do you go if it is a fact that the farthest reaches were not explored because of assumptions of a pilot who was no longer at the controls I would say let's ditch that assumption let's assume that it was murder-suicide by the pilot and if there is any part of that ocean that could have been reached on that basis that has not yet been explored let's get out and explore it coming up spend the money and find that plane it's incredibly important everyone who flies minute we get in the air we're a bit worried now can you leave our families out there how do we find it I have an idea I have a different person now I have a I see a future whilst the Tonica yes it is like the luckiest and their unluckiest and the luckiest woman again to find love France is now the only country still conducting an active investigation into the crash Boeing who built the triple7 has handed over streams of data that the French are now working through for their own victims so far it's revealed abnormal turns were made at the end of the flight that could only have been done manually suggesting the pilot was in control at the end and if that's true it fits the theory that the aim was to minimize impact I thought it was the greatest mystery of all time it just seemed absolutely impossible that an aircraft of that size could just disappear record-breaking aviator dick Smith has been flying since 1973 like everyone else he finds the disappearance of mh370 utterly mystifying what do you think it is specifically that gets people engaged so much with this particular missing plane and this accident I think the reason it's so important and people are so worried about it is it's the it's the great mystery now when the Airbus aircraft of Air France came down in the Atlantic a huge amount of money was spent to find the flight data recorder and then they found out that one of the pilots that held the stick back and the plane would have come out of stall if they just let go so that would save lots of lives because all training pilots from then on are told don't hold the stick back pretty obvious [Music] he's bold adventures other stuff of legend hasn't been done before while dick spent his career both making and taking calculated risks for him safety is paramount he's also the former chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority it's incredibly important that this aircraft is found because if it was a murder-suicide we're not gonna learn much but there's the chance that it wasn't just a murder-suicide there's a chance that something went wrong with the aircraft and we need to find that aircraft to find that out so people who fly now are safe it's really important we spend the money dick is a firm believer that the hunt for mh370 must continue that's why we should spend the money and find that plane it's incredibly important everyone who flies minute we get in the air we're a bit worried even I'm a pilot and I'm a worried is this flight going to be successful it's a strange pressure in this little metal tube that's pressurized on the edge of space so you want to know every single accident there is you want people to be able to inspect the hull find out what went wrong and make sure it doesn't happen again how do we find it it's going to be very hard we have to spend money and I have an idea there are four billion passengers that fly every year and you'd only have to put 10 cents on an air ticket to get 400 million dollars a year to do the search and that's what we should be doing if there's ever an example of a government putting profits in front of safety is the way they've stopped searching for that airline we should keep searching for it do you reckon anyone have a problem with paying 10 cents for a ticket this is the self-interest in this the self-interest in every one of us that flies in the air and there's four billion of us a year that's not much on each ticket 10 cents would give 400 million dollars to actually get the search going again and I believe with that amount of money you'd find the aircraft finding mh370 is an outcome de Nika weeks and the other families who lost loved ones that day would dearly love to see okay well that's Danny crossed that with you just a big smile on your face there yeah despite all the heartache the danique has suffered after losing her much-loved husband Paul her life has turned a very unexpected corner I'm a different person very very different person sometimes I push myself and think gee who was it girl before head but no laughs good and I see now I have a I see a future and that's been something I haven't had for six years loves the Tonica yes it is absolutely and that tonic is John I say I'm like the luckiest and then unluckiest in the luckiest woman again to find love you know some people don't find it the first time around and I've been lucky to find it a second were you ready Danita to open yourself up again yes for the right person because as soon as no he told me he was going to support me and whatever endeavors I took on and he he appreciated it's my fight to bring poorly home and and that was it John you're not just with Donita you're with the ghost of Paul how do you deal with that I think that from what I know what dance told me of him that he's similar to my style of man you know I'm a man's man I know what's right I know it's wrong and I had a raise a kid I could start a fire I can fish in supply I can I can provide I can do just about anything that needs to be done as a man and I think that Paul was very similar to me so I think that's why I sort of stack up to that type person but Donita has not just herself but her two young sons to consider Lincoln and Jack and now aged nine and six introducing John was a decision that wasn't taken lightly and I tried to sort of pull out of it and think it's it's too early and then I saw John with the boys on the beach and I went this is right this is I need to be vulnerable I had my know I had my wall up because you know of had to have changed and I've had to fight a real battle it is difficult to know that there is always going to be that factor that for the boys not just stamp but for the boys as well that their father has always been I've never known him as much as they needed to and that's going to be my job to take the baton and bring these boys up in a very difficult world with a hundred percent support and they just need everything that they're going to get from me to walk out of that big world and go alright I'm gonna be a man and that's my job it's a job that John's embracing wholeheartedly that was a deliberate plan to not go so fast I had to be right with it and hmm and it was the right time yeah I think it was definitely being able to find each other's parameters and let the boys get to know me let Dan get all of us get to know each other I think that's the most important part before we just barely out and get my yeah and that's just what they've done this year and one of the kids thing ah they're ecstatic yeah they are they're really happy and I think you asked me once where the poor would you know would agree with his parenting style and I said actually yes yeah they're very similar no poles from the Army's have this you know obviously strong personality and John has that strong personality I have no qualms and that John will raise our boys exactly the way that Paul would have wanted I think Paul would be wherever wherever he is would be looking down and going yes Dan yeah he got it right and for the families of the 239 people who perished on board all they have left is hope I just wish we got a lucky break along the way so that we could have found founded because the families continue to suffer it's about those poor souls who were lost and the grieving relatives have been left behind and that's always what this has got to be about those who are lost those who are left behind and for their sakes continuing the search the search for any answers at all but for now the official government position is that another search won't be launched until new credible information is uncovered if you had someone at the controls deliberately trying to take the aircraft as far away as possible and to leave its final location uncertain the area to cover that possibility is just so enormous that the search would be it's theoretically possible but the price of it would be beyond anything that I think anyone would be willing to pay I think that some day it will be found the underwater wreckage and someday we will know the truth and I hope it's in my lifetime I talked to Catherine Bob pretty well every day and it's so like they're with me here no matter what but I'm I can't say goodbye I know that sounds odd I know because they're not coming home I know that but I can't say goodbye to give up research how can you leave our families out I need him home and I won't leave him out there he was just my husband he was my best friend no he's my family no one takes from my family with no answers that's it end of and I'll keep fighting until [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]
