♪ >>> WELCOME TO MEET THE PRESS NOW, I AM RYAN HERE IN WASHINGTON, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE -- MAJOR DEVELOPMENT IN A NUMBER FRONTS, HOSTAGE DEAL IN PLACE IN THE ISRAEL AND HAMAS WAR AND REPORTING ON THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL RACE, WE BEGIN WITH BREAKING NEWS AT THE U.S. CANADA BORDER AFTER A VEHICLE EXPLOSION AT A CHECKPOINT IN NIAGARA FALLS THIS AFTERNOON. LOOK AT THIS VIDEO OBTAINED BY WNBC, A VEHICLE DRIVING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED BEFORE KATRINA HIT SOMETHING AND THEN GOING AIRBORNE, ACCORDING TO MULTIPLE LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS BRIEFED ON THE MATTER THE CAR THEN CAUGHT ON FIRE AND EXPLODED RESULTING THE DEATHS OF THE TWO PEOPLE INSIDE, ONE OFFICIAL WAS ALSO INJURED IN THE INCIDENT, AND AN INITIAL SEARCH DID NOT FIND THIS VERY MOSHER OR DEVICE, BUT AUTHORITIES WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE INCIDENT WAS INTENTIONAL, THE FBI ARE INVESTIGATING, AND THE NEW YORK GOVERNORS ON THE WAY TO BUFFALO TO MEET WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS. AS A RESULT OF THIS EXPLOSION, NEW YORK STATE IS TAKING ADDITIONAL SECURITY PRECAUTIONS AT THE DIRECTION OF FEDERAL AUTHORITIES. THE BRIDGES CROSSING INTO THE UNITED STATES HAVE ENCLOSED AND THE FAA SAYS BUFFALO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IS CLOSED TO DEPARTING AND ARRIVING INTERNATIONAL LIGHTS, BUT THE AIRPORT ITSELF REMAINS OPEN. AND IT HAS BECOME A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE AS CARS GOING INTO THE AIRPORT ARE NOW UNDERGOING ADDITIONAL SCREENING. THE WHITE HOUSE IS THERE MONITORING THE SITUATION, AND MOMENTS AGO WE HEARD FROM THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU. >> THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION IN NIAGARA FALLS, THERE WAS A VEHICLE EXPLOSION OF THE RAINBOW BRIDGE CROSSING, I'VE BEEN BRIEFED BY THE NSI I AND MINISTER PUBLIC SAFETY, WHERE TRY TO GET ANSWERS AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE, WE'RE CLOSE CONTACT WITH YOU FOR -- YOU AS OFFICIALS AND CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM.>> LESBIAN KEN DELANEY AND, KELLY O'DONNELL IS THERE, AND CLINT WATTS, A SECURITY ANALYST AND CONSULTANT FOR THE COUNTERTERRORISM DIVISION. WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW AND WHAT ARE WE HEARING FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AT THIS STAGE OF THE INVESTIGATION?>> YOU HEARD THE CONCERN IN THE VOICE OF THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER, THAT'S THE KIND OF CONCERN I'M HEARING FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCES, BUT THEY SAY WE ARE SO MUCH TO BE DETERMINED ABOUT THIS INCIDENT, THEY'RE NOT LABELING IT AS TERRORISM, THERE OBVIOUSLY INVESTIGATING WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS, WAS AN ACCIDENT OR INTENTIONAL ACT? WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT FINDINGS OF THE DAY WAS THE REPORTING BUT TOM WINTER IN JONATHAN DIENST, OUR COLLEAGUES, THAT THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN THE CAR, SO IT WAS NOT A CAR BOMB DESPITE THIS EPIC EXPLOSION THAT ALARMED A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO AUTHORITIES ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT CAUSED THAT, THE GAS TANK, WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CAR, WHAT CAUSED THE DRIVER TO DRIVE AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED INTO THIS CHECKPOINT, IT WAS COMING FROM THE CANADIAN SIDE, OR I'M SORRY FROM THE U.S. SIDE INTO CANADA CONTRARY TO INITIAL REPORTS COMING OUT OF ERIE COUNTY BUT LITTLE ELSE IS KNOWN ABOUT WHERE THE CARS THERE AND HE WAS DRIVING, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN AND THIS IS COMING AMID A HEIGHTENED STATE OF THREAT OF TERRORISM ACCORDING TO THE FBI DIRECTOR AND OTHERS RELATED TO THE ISRAEL AND HAMAS WAR, WHICH IS CAUSED EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS WITH THE UTMOST CONCERN, BUT AGAIN RIGHT NOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS ARE NOT LABELING IT TERRORISM, THERE INVESTIGATING EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. SPEAKERS SO TO CLARIFY, IT WAS ON THE AMERICAN SIDE HEADING INTO CANADA? >> THAT'S THE LATEST INFORMATION WE ARE GETTING, AND IT SUPPORTED BY THE VIDEO AND CONTRADICT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WAS PUT UP BY LOCAL AUTHORITIES EARLIER IN THE DAY. AND WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS, IS UNCLEAR, BUT THE EXPLOSION DEFINITELY HAPPENED ON THE AMERICAN SIDE, AND ONE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION OFFICER SUFFERED MINOR INJURY, NO OTHER U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL OR WORKER WAS INJURED, OBVIOUSLY THE TWO OCCUPANTS OF THE VEHICLE, WE WERE TOLD BY LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS DIED >> INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT THAT STARTED IN THE UNITED STATES, GOING INTO CANADA, I PERCEIVE THAT CLARIFICATION. AND AMTRAK IS SUSPENDING SERVICE BETWEEN NEW YORK AND CANADA IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE REPORTED ABOUT FLIGHTS, INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS BEING CANCELED FROM THE BUFFALO AIRPORT. WHAT CAN WE GLEAN FROM THESE ENHANCED SECURITY PRECAUTIONS? >> JUST THAT OFFICIALS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER ARE BEING INCREDIBLY CAUTIOUS HERE. IF THERE WAS A CHANCE AT THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL ACT, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER SIMILAR KIND OF LOAN ROOF -- LOGAN WOLF INSPIRED PLAYERS, AND A NIGHTMARE IN THE BUSIEST TRAVEL DAY OF THE YEAR AND QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT THE SECURITY MEASURES AT THE NORTHERN BORDER CHECKPOINTS. WHETHER ENOUGH BARRIERS, WHAT IF IT HAD BEEN A VEHICLE FILLED WITH EXPLOSIVES, THE DAMAGE COULD HAVE BEEN INCALCULABLE. THERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED ABOUT SECURITY MEASURES AND EVERY THING. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORTING CAN DELANEY AND AS ALWAYS, KELLY O'DONNELL IS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. >> THERE'S ATTEMPT TO GET THE FACTS, THAT'S WHERE THINGS CONTINUE TO BE, THE PRESIDENT WAS BRIEFED BY HIS TEAM HERE IN NANTUCKET, AT A TIME WHEN IS BALANCING THE WHOLE ISSUE OF THE ISRAEL HAMAS WAR, AND CALLING FOR LEADERS, A NUMBER OF THEM TODAY, THEY MAY HAVE TO CHANGE DIRECTION AND GIVE THE PRESIDENT LATEST FAX FROM DIFFERENT OFFICIALS THAT HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, THEY'RE TRYING TO LEARN FROM FEDERAL AS WELL AS ON THE GROUND LAW- ENFORCEMENT, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS, THAT HELPED TO FORMULATE ANY NEXT STEPS FOR THE PRESIDENT. BECAUSE OF WHAT KEN HAS LAID OUT, WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT MAY BE IN TERMS OF ANY MOTIVES OR DIFFERENT KINDS OF PRECAUTIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN. AT THIS POINT IS ABOUT THE PRESENT NEEDING TO GET THE INFORMATION, WE CAN SEE THE BRIEFING SEVEN TO -- INCLUDED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY, AT ALL LEVELS, AND SENIOR LAWMAKERS ON CAPITOL HILL HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT WANTING THESE BRIEFINGS AS WELL. SO WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO WITH THE INTERNATIONAL ISSUES HE'S DEALING WITH, IS IN A FAMILY VACATION FOR THE HOLIDAY LIKE ANY AMERICANS, WHERE YOU HAVE GATHERED FAMILY AROUND, AND PERSONAL PLANS AND OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THESE ISSUES COMING INTO PLAY, AND HE'S BEEN BRIEFED ON THE SITUATION. OFFICIALS OF TOLD US THEY WILL SHARE MORE WHEN THEY LEARNED, BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THE PRESIDENT PUBLICLY TODAY, AND TOMORROW WE WILL SEE WHERE HE MAY BE AT ON THIS ISSUE. CERTAINLY ADDITIONALLY THE PRESIDENT SOMETIME OVER THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY STEPPED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY HERE IN NANTUCKET, MAKING CALLS TO MILITARY, WE WOULD EXPECT TO GET THAT KIND OF SCHEDULE. AT THIS POINT THE PRESIDENT IS GETTING INFORMATION AND EVALUATING NEXT STEPS. >> WHAT ABOUT OTHER CABINET OFFICIALS, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS, ARE ANY OF THEM WEIGHING IN >> THERE CERTAINLY IS A WHOLE OPERATION OF PRESENTING INFORMATION TO THE TWO DEPARTMENTS AND TO TRY THAN TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS THE FACTS AND WHAT STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN. PART OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN ARE THE STEPS RELATED TO THE AIRPORT AND TRANSPORTATION LIKE AMTRAK, THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE WE WANT TO REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR PROBLEMS BY HAVING GREATER CONTROL IN AREAS NOW AFFECTED BY THIS. LAW-ENFORCEMENT IS OBVIOUSLY BEING DIRECTED TO THESE EVENTS, AND DRAINS AWAY FROM OTHER THINGS, SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE SHARING MORE INFORMATION AND GETTING FACTS ON THE GROUND FROM THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE INVESTIGATING THE SCENE AND LEARNING INFORMATION AND REPORTING OF THE CHAIN. THE SITUATION AT THE WHITE HOUSE. >> THANK YOU IN NANTUCKET, AND NOW LET'S GO TO CLINT WATTS TO BREAK DOWN HIS ANALYSIS OF ALL THIS, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, WHAT ARE THE IMMEDIATE THINGS THAT LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WOULD BE EXPECTING >> THEY DO KNOW WHAT THE VEHICLE WAS, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A LICENSE PLATE AND LIKELY AVON NUMBER, AND WHAT I IMAGINE WOULD BE THE IDENTITIES OF TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE INSIDE THE CARS, SO THE QUESTION WILL BE IS THIS INDIVIDUALLY MOTIVATED, WHERE THE INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY JUST RUNNING FROM SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE DRIVING SO FAST IN THE HAPPEN TO BE WHERE THE CRASH OCCURRED OR WERE THEY TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE BORDER TO CREATE A TERRORIST ATTACK WITH AN IDEOLOGICAL OBJECTIVE? THE REASON HE COMES UP IN TERMS OF THE SCENARIOS, PARTICULARLY ON THE TERRORISM SIDE, WE ARE AT A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF TERRORISM INTERNATIONALLY THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN QUITE SOME TIME. DUE TO THE ISRAEL AND HAMAS WAR, THERE WERE CALLS BY HAMAS FOR A GLOBAL JIHADIST, SO THEY BEEN LOOKING FOR THE LIKELINESS OF THIS HAPPENING, AND THE CANADIAN U.S. BORDER HAS BEEN A PLACE ON KEY HOLIDAYS THERE HAVE BEEN INCIDENTS IN THE PAST. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER WITH THE MILLENNIUM PLOT, AN ENTITY -- INDIVIDUALS INTERDICTED AND WAS GOING TO TRY TO DO THE ATTACK RIGHT AT THE TURN OF THE CENTURY IN 2000 AND SEPARATELY WE'VE ALSO SEEN KEY ATTACKS HAPPEN AROUND HOLIDAYS OR BIG DAYS LIKE THE BIGGEST TRAVEL DAY IN AMERICA, THIS WOULD BE A DAY THAT MIGHT BE A PRIME TARGET FOR TERRORISM. WE HAVE NO INDICATION OF THAT BUT THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SUCH A HIGH LEVEL OF ALERT. WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE. AND DIDN'T HAVE A LARGER MOTIVE THAT IS CONNECTED TO A PLOT, THAT'S WHAT INSTIGATORS WILL BE FOCUSED ON>> IS IT SIGNIFICANT THAT THE CAR WAS IN THE UNITED STATES AS OPPOSED TO THE CAR BEING IN CANADA TRY TO GET TO THE UNITED STATES, IS THAT A KEY DATA POINT THAT INVESTIGATORS WOULD LOOK AT TO SEE HOW MUCH OF AN INJURY COULD BE QUICK >> I THINK THAT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DATA POINT, IT'S NOT A VEHICLE COMING INTO THE NINE STATES, IT'S ONE THAT APPEARS TO BE GOING TOWARDS THE BORDER AND OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES, THAT OPENS UP THE SCENARIO, SOMEONE COULD BE ON THE RUN, COULD BE SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO CRASH INTO IT TO ATTACK A FEDERAL TARGET, OPENS A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT I DON'T THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT RIGHT WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT IT. >> INCLUDING A NUMBER OF POLITICIANS MAKING WILD CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE GOING ON WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING ALL THE FACTS. LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW VULNERABLE CHECKPOINTS LIKE THIS ARE, AND HOW SOON TO BE BEFORE THEY REOPEN THOSE BRIDGES AND OPEN TRAFFIC BACKUP? BIGGER THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THIS ONE OF MANY ATTACKS OR CONNECTED ATTACKS RELATED TO THE BORDER, OR SOMETHING SPECIFIC AROUND THIS TARGET? OR WAS IT A TARGET AT ALL? MAYBE IT'S JUST COINCIDENTAL AND WHERE THE CAR ENDED UP DUE TO A HIGH-SPEED CHASE OR WAS TRYING TO CROSS THE BORDER FOR REASONS WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. UNTIL ALL OF THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED IN THE MOTIVE IS UNDERSTOOD AND WHY THE PEOPLE WERE THERE AND WHY WERE THEY MOVING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED AND WHY DID IT EXPLODE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS IN TERMS OF OPENING UP THE BORDER TO TRAVEL, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE AREA, MEDIATED TERRORISM, AND ATTACK OCCURS AND SEVERAL OTHER ATTACKS VIRAL OFF AND I MAY BE UNCONNECTED BUT INSPIRED BY SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN SEEN BY SOMEBODY CONSIDERING ATTACK. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE TO REMOVE ALL CAUSE FOR 80s WITH CONNECTIONS IN THE INCIDENT BEFORE THE OPEN OF THE BORDER. >> ONE OF THESE ACTIONS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, TAKING SUCH SERIOUS QUESTIONS, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENTS OF BOTH COUNTRIES RESPONDED TO IT SO QUICKLY, WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT HOW SERIOUSLY THEY'RE TAKING IT? >> IT JUST INDICATES IF NOTHING ELSE THAT THEY JUST DON'T KNOW. WHEN YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF UNCERTAINTY, THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO SIDE WITH CAUTION. SIMILARLY THEY NEED TO RUN DOWN THE FACTS COMPANY TO KNOW WHO THE TWO PEOPLE WERE IN THE CAR AND WHAT A MOTIVE IS AND IF THEY CAN FIND A CONNECTION, IT COULD BE, DO THEY HAVE A PREVIOUS CRIMINAL RECORD, OR WAS THE VEHICLE SPOTTED DOING SOMETHING JUST BEFORE THIS, WE'VE SOME -- SEEN SOME OF THIS, IS THERE OTHER VIDEO CAMERA FOOTAGE THAT CAN SPEAK TO THE MOTIVE, ARE THERE ANY CLAIMS OR THREATS MADE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND COWORKERS, THEY WILL WANT TO RESOLVE ALL OF THAT, TO UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS JUST A LOAN INCIDENT AND IF IT IS SAFE FOR THE BORDER ENTRY POINTS TO OPEN AGAIN. >> THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST TRAVEL DAY IN THE UNITED STATES, THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES SHUTTING DOWN AND OF WAS THE AIRPORT AT DOVE SHUTTING DOWN TO INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL. DO THEY NOT TAKE THESE RISKS IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE THERE COULD BE SOMETHING WITH A THREAT, DOES THE TIMING TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE THAT THEY FOUND OVER THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION, OR DO THEY TAKE THESE PRECAUTIONS NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF YEAR IT IS?>> THEY COULD TAKE THESE PRECAUTIONS FOR BOTH FOR WHAT WE CALL A THREAT ASSESSMENT OR A VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, THE THREAT ASSESSMENT, THEY FOUND SOMETHING WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS RELATED TO ATTACK BUT WE HAVE NO INDICATION OF THAT YET, WE NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN SAY THAT. AND SEPARATELY IT'S VERY NORMAL IN WHAT WE CALL THE VULNERABILITY PORTION OF IT, IS TO LOOK AT ALL TRAVEL POINTS AND BORDER ENTERING CROSSINGS AND TRY TO LOCK THAT DOWN, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THERE MAY BE ACCOMPLICES THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. EVEN IF THE CRIMINAL SCENARIO, SOMETHING WITH INTERNATIONAL IMPORTANCE WITH THIS RIPPLE EFFECT, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOBODY ELSE INVOLVED WITH THE PLOT OR TRYING TO FLEE THE SITUATION OR CREATING A SECONDARY SORT OF ATTACK, OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION'S, THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE VERY SLOWLY AND TRY TO KEEP THE TRANSPORTATION LOCKED DOWN. >> MAYBE YOU CAN EXPAND ON IT MORE, HOW MUCH REACTION COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHTENED PRECAUTIONS OVER THE ONGOING WARS AND HEIGHTENED TENSION AS A RESULT >> THREE ASPECTS TO IT, ONE THIS IS A BORDER CROSSING, AN INTERNATIONAL BORDER CROSSING, IT'S GOOD TO BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY, ANYTHING JURISDICTIONAL BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES IS GOING TO RAISE IN TERMS OF SIGNIFICANCE, AND THE INTERNATIONAL AND GLOBAL JIHADIST, COMING TO A SPECIFIC CAUSE. THE TECH OF VIOLENCE AND SOLIDARITY, DREW SIMILAR AND DO TERRORISM IN YOUR HOME, OR YOUR LOCALE, AND ANYTIME IS A HOLIDAY PERIOD, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GAIN MEDIA ATTENTION, THIS IS THE DAY AND THE THREE THINGS ARE PROBABLY DRIVING A LOT OF THIS, CAUSING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS, THE ACTIVITY TO BE CAUTIOUS ARRIVING TO QUICKLY. >> CLINT WATTS, AS ALWAYS EXCELLENT ANALYSIS, SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T KNOW, WE WILL KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE SITUATION AT NIAGARA FALLS, WE WILL BE BRINGING DEVELOPMENT AS YOU LEARN THE. >>> WE WILL TURN NOW TO THE BREAKTHROUGH IN THE ISRAEL AND HAMAS WAR, AFTER A DEAL WAS FORMALLY ANNOUNCED TO FREE SOME OF THE MORE THAN 230 HOSTAGES THAT HAVE BEEN HELD IN GAZA, THE THIRD SUBJECT, UNFOLDING IN STAGES, COULD BEGIN IF AS EARLY AS TOMORROW MORNING, 10 WOMEN AND 8 CHILDREN, AND AMERICANS ARE LIKELY PART OF THE GROUP, IN EXCHANGE ISRAEL WILL RELEASE 150 PALESTINIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN HELD IN ISRAELI JAILS, THE PAUSE COULD BE EXTENDED IN EXCHANGE FOR 10 HOSTAGES RELEASED EACH DAY, AND THIS AFTERNOON, PREMISED OR BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAID THE DEAL WAS THE RESULT OF BOTH DIPLOMATIC AND MILITARY PRESSURE. >> THE COMBINATION OF THE MILITARY EFFORT ANY DIPLOMATIC EFFORT, THIS IS WHAT MADE THE CONDITIONS READY FOR THE RELEASE OF HOSTAGES, I BELIEVE THIS COMBINATION WILL ENABLE THE RETURN OF MORE HOSTAGES. I WISH TO BE CLEAR, THE WAR CONTINUES, THE WAR CONTINUES, AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THIS WAR UNTIL WE ACHIEVE ALL OF OUR GOALS TO BRING BACK ALL OF UR HOSTAGES, AND TO OBLITERATE HAMAS >> EMPHASIZING THAT ANY PAUSES TEMPORARY, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE PRIME MINISTER, THE DEAL IS EXPECTED TO TAKE EFFECT, FLARES AND SMOKE WERE STILL VISIBLE ON THE BORDER. NETANYAHU SAID HE SPOKE WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN, AND 3 AMERICANS AMONGST THOSE TO BE RELEASED, INCLUDING A 3-YEAR OLD GIRL. BUT EVEN WITH THE BREAKTHROUGH, AND ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS ARE STILL USING CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM >> UNTIL WE HAVE HIGHS -- EYES OF HOSTAGES, AMERICANS AND OTHERS, WE CAN'T BE EXACTLY SURE. AND AND AND FOLLOWING THROUGH, >> FACING THE AGONIZING WAIT, FAMILY MEMBERS WILL BE AMONG THOSE RELEASED, AARON McLACHLAN IS IN ISRAEL WITH THE LATEST.>> HERE IN ISRAEL, THE FAMILIES OF MORE THAN 230 HOSTAGES ARE TONIGHT ASKING THE SAME QUESTION, WILL MY LOVED ONES BE RELEASED? IT'S VERY MUCH ON THE MIND OF CALDERON ON OCTOBER 7, HER MOTHER AND KNEES, THE X HUSBAND, 16-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WERE KIDNAPPED AND BROUGHT INTO GAZA, AND HOW DESPERATE SHE IS FOR ANY PIECE OF INFORMATION, AND LOOKED AT ME, TAKE A LISTEN. >> AND AND EVERYTHING IS OPEN. >> LIKELY TO BE RELEASED TOMORROW, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, AND SUBSEQUENT DEALS, AND REUNITED AND WHAT TO EXPECT FOR TOMORROW ANY POSITIVE HOSTILITIES AND THEN FACILITATE THE HOSTAGE EXCHANGE, BROUGHT INTO ISRAEL, THEY WILL BE NOTIFIED AND ONLY THEN, AND SPOKE TO THE PLAY OUT OVER FOUR DAYS WITH THE POSSIBILITY WITH AN EXTENSION, BUT YOU, >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS FREE AND JOHN KIRBY, THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, THE SPOKESMAN, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE SITUATION IN BUFFALO, WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE CAUSE OF THE EXPLOSION AT THE U.S. AND CANADA BORDER? >> WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE, MONITORING REPORTS COMING IN ACTIVELY AT THE WHITE HOUSE, FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THE GROUND, ASSISTING LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, INVESTIGATING A VERY ACTIVE SEEING. I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THEM AND WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING WHAT KLUDGES THEY MIGHT REACH, BUT WE ARE WATCHING THIS VERY CLOSELY OBVIOUSLY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. LET'S TALKBOUT THE HOSTAGE NEGOTIATIONS, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT BOTH HAMAS AND ISRAEL UPHOLD THE DEAL, AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT OTHER IRIDIUM BACK HOSTAGES DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION?>> WE ARE DEALING WITH HAMAS HERE, A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE A STRONG TRACK RECORD OF MEETING COMMITMENTS, WE WILL WATCH CLOSELY, WE ARE GLAD FOR PRIME MINISTER THAN YAHOO -- BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AGREED TO THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS INVOLVED, INCLUDING PRESIDENT BIDEN AT A VERY SENIOR LEVEL, PERSONALLY ENGAGED IN HELPING TO GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, SO WE WILL LOOK IN THE HOURS TO COME TO SEE IF THEY MEET THE COMMITMENT AND RELEASE PEOPLE IN THE TIMELINE THEY PROMISED TO DO. >> THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THEY HOPED THERE WOULD BE A PAUSE LEBANON AS WELL, WERE THERE ANY SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS BY HAS BLOCK LIKE >> I JUST TELL YOU WE DON'T SEE THE WAR ESCALATE OR WIDEN, AND CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO SEE A SECOND FRONT OPEN UP IN THE NORTH OF ISRAEL, WE WANT THIS TO STAY CONTAINED, FIGHTING HAMAS IN GAZA. THERE EXCHANGES ACROSS THE BORDER, OF ROCKET FIRE, WE HAVE NOT SEEN HAS BLOCK McKINNEY COMMITMENT, STATED COMMITMENT, THAT WOULD TELL US THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO JUMP IN BOTH FEET FORWARD HERE, AND HELP HAMAS. >> ISRAEL HAS VOWED TO DISMANTLE HAMAS, THE PRIME MINISTER SAID IT'S NOT MEANT TO THE WAR, BUT IF THE DEAL DOESN'T GET EXTENDED, AND THE POSITIVE FIGHTING DOES NOT CONTINUE, HOW DIFFICULT WILL IT BE TO GET A SECOND HOSTAGE DEAL? HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL? BIGGER IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON TO GET THE 50 WOMEN AND CHILDREN BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES WHERE THEY BELONG. THAT IS AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS, WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO SEE ALL THE HOSTAGES COME HOME, THAT MEANS WE ARE WILLING TO ENGAGE IN BROKERING FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS FOR MORE HOSTAGE RELEASES, THE COMING DAYS. I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF WHERE WE ARE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FIRST USABLE PENTAGON IF IT IS, THE CHANCES ARE BETTER AT MOVING FORWARD ON OTHER HOSTAGE DEALS BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF WHERE WE ARE, WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH THE IMPLEMENTATION CLOSELY. >> CAN YOU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE AMERICANS WHO ARE EXPECTED TO BE PART OF THE DEAL AND HOW MANY REMAIN AS HOSTAGES IN GAZA? >> WE KNOW THERE'S ABOUT 10 UNACCOUNTED FOR AMERICANS, THERE COULD BE 10 OVERALL HOSTAGES THAT ARE AMERICANS, WE DON'T HAVE PERFECT VISIBILITY ON ALL OF THEM AND WHERE THEY MIGHT BE, BUT THAT IS SORT OF THE POOL THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. AND I WILL TELL YOU, UNDER THIS DEAL WE WOULD SEE THREE AMERICANS RELEASE, THREE WOMEN -- TO WOMEN, AND ABIGAIL, WHO TURNED -- TURNS 4 FRIDAY, WE WANT TO GET HER BACK WITH HER FAMILY WHERE SHE BELONGS BUT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THREE, TWO AMERICAN WOMEN AND ABIGAIL, AND THEN WE WILL OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE TO WORK ON GETTING ALL OF THE OTHER HOSTAGES RELEASED AFTER THAT.>> AND THE U.S. IS OFTEN PROVIDED RESOURCES TO HELP WITH INTEGRATION. IS THE ADMINISTRATION GOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THE RESOURCES TO THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT ONCE THE HOSTAGES ARE RETURNED? >> WE WILL DO WHATEVER IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, WE KNOW HOW TO GET FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN IN CAPTIVITY FOR LONG TIME, HOSTAGES OR WRONGFUL DETAINEES, GET THEM REINTEGRATED BACK INTO SOCIETY, THEY WILL NEED HEALTHCARE AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND CERTAINLY WILL BE STANDING BY FOR ALL THE AMERICANS THAT WE CAN GET OUT FOR ANY FOLLOW-ON TRANSPORTATION THEY MIGHT NEED. WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE NOT DEALT WITH THIS, PROBABLY FOUR BUT WHATEVER THE PRIME MINISTER MIGHT REQUIRE FROM US IN THAT REGARD WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP. >> YOU MENTIONED THIS ALREADY BUT CAN EXPAND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC ROLE THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN PLAYED IN THESE TALKS? JUST LAST MONTH THEIR LEADERS CALL OFF A SUMMIT WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN, WHAT IS HIS RELATIONSHIP STAND WITH THEM NOW? BIGGER IT WAS NOT CALLED OFF, MY LEADERS, BUT MUTUAL THAT IT WASN'T TIME TO GO TO JORDAN, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF A MUTUAL DECISION AGAIN. WE OBVIOUSLY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ARAB LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE IN AND CONTINUE TO GET PEOPLE OUT. THERE ARE ROLE TO PLAY BY ALL THE PARTNERS, AND QATAR HAS BEEN HELPFUL, WHEN EGYPT AND JORDAN, IN TERMS OF THE GETTING OF AID IN AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT. >> JOHN KIRBY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.>> MY PLEASURE. >>> THE EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF THE JERUSALEM POST, GETTING HIS TAKE ON RELATION TO THE HOSTAGES BEING RETURNED, YOUR REACTION TO THE PRIME MINISTER THIS AFTERNOON, WHAT WAS THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY?>> I THINK THE PRIME MINISTER MADE CLEAR THAT THIS IS A TOP NATIONAL PRIORITY, IT HAS BEEN FOR A MONTH AND A HALF, ISRAELIS HAS NOT KNOWN WHETHER THEY ARE ALIVE OR DEAD AND WHAT THE WELL-BEING MIGHT BE, HE MADE CLEAR THAT THIS IS BEEN A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN THE COUNTRY, BRING THESE PEOPLE HOME BUT HE ALSO STRESSED THAT THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE MILITARY CAMPAIGN IN GAZA. AND ONCE THIS PAUSE IS COMPLETED AND ONCE THE TRANSFER ENDS, ISRAEL WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT IT MUST TO ENSURE THAT HAMAS DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO CARRY OUT SOMETHING LIKE OCTOBER 7 EVER AGAIN. ACRE HOW IMPORTANT IS THE DEAL FOR BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IN TERMS OF A STANDING, DOES HE STILL HAVE THE CONFIDENCE OF HIS PEOPLE AND THE ABILITY TO LEAD THIS EMERGENCY WARTIME GOVERNMENT QUITE >> AS YOU SAID IT IS INDEED AN EMERGENCY GOVERNMENT, FORM FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING IT THROUGH THE WAR IN A UNITY SENSE, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION THAT OF JOINTED TO ENSURE WE ARE UNIFIED AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. BUT I DON'T THINK HIS POLITICAL WOES BE BEHIND HIM, BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE A RECKONING AS THE FEELINGS OF OCTOBER 7, HOW THEY WERE CAUGHT UNAWARES IN A DRAMATIC WAY RESULTING IN THE DEATHS OF 1200 PEOPLE IN ABDUCTION OF 240, IT MAY BOOST HIM ON SOME LEVEL BUT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT RECKONING TO COME AND I'M NOT SURE HE WILL SURVIVE THAT. >> A GOOD POINT, HE FACED QUITE A BIT OF CRITICISM FOR NOT TAKING RESPONSE ABILITY FOR THE LATE -- FAILURES THAT LED TO OCTOBER 7. DOES IT TAKE PRESSURE OFF BUT PUT PRESSURE ON HIM FROM THE HOSTAGES FAMILIES AND HOW MUCH THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE GOVERNMENT'S DECISION, DID HE UP THE TIMELINE TO GET THIS DEAL DONE I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING?>> 50 PEOPLE, THEY WILL INDEED ALL BE RELEASED, THAT LEAVES 190 OTHERS THAT ARE STILL GOING TO BE IN CAPTIVITY, A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, SONS AND DOLLARS, AND THEY NEED TO BE RELEASED, TREMENDOUS PRESSURE, AND TO ENSURE THEY ARE RELEASED IN AND EXPEDITIOUS WAY, THIS WILL SIT DESPERATE SIMPLY WITH THE APPETITE, AND IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH A DEAL, AND THE 190 HOSTAGES, A LARGE PERCENTAGE ARE STILL ALIVE >> THE ONES THAT INITIALLY OPPOSED THE DEAL, WHAT WAS BEHIND THE SPLIT >> THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION, UP UNTIL RECENTLY A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITION, ONE THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISIONS, TALKING ABOUT 150 TERRORISTS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN EVICTED OR HELD BY TERRACE AUTHORITIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE FENCES, WE KNOW THERE IS A TRACK RECORD, RELEASED IN THE CONTEXT OF DEALS LIKE THIS ONE, AND THE LEADER OF HAMAS IN GAZA, WHO PERPETRATED MASTERMINDED WAS HIMSELF THESE FROM ISRAELI PRISON IN THE CONTEXT OF A HOSTAGE DEAL IN THE PAST, SO THERE ARTISTS -- SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS, I COULD HAPPEN AGAIN, MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT HAD OPPOSED IT, SOME DID ULTIMATELY VOTE IN FAVOR BUT THEY DID REMAIN OPPOSED AND NOT ONLY THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME MEMBERS MIGHT RETURN TO THE CYCLE OF TERROR BUT ALSO HAMAS MIGHT REARM AND REGROUP DURING THE COURSE OF THOSE FOR FIVE DAYS AND CONTINUE THEIR ASSAULT ON THE ISRAELI PEOPLE.>> LET'S WHITE IT HAS A LAST-MINUTE OPPORTUNITY FROM PREVENTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN A 24 HOUR WINDOW, PETITIONS TO THE COURT, WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS, COULD BE POSSIBLE THE COURT COULD STOP IT, AND HOW COULD STOP A PRISONER FROM BEING RELEASED? >> THE COURT DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND POSSIBLE THAT VICTIMS OF OCTOBER 7 OR OTHERS MY PETITION AND SAY IT'S NOT RIGHT, WE SHOULD NOT BE LETTING PEOPLE FREE, THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF TERROR OFFENSES AND MISSION BE ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THE CYCLE OF TERROR BUT IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THEY WILL INTERVENE, I EXPECT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN . >>> NEW DETAILS ON THE BREAKING NEWS AT THE U.S. AND CANADA BORDER, THE FBI IS INVESTIGATING A VEHICLE EXPLOSION AT NIAGARA FALLS, AT THE BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN THE U.S. AND >>> WE JUST SAW A FIREBALL, COVERED IN SMOKE. >> COMING FROM THE U.S. INTO CANADA? >> IT WAS GOING INTO CANADA YES. >> AND I WOULD IS AT THE BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CANADA TODAY, INVESTIGATING AT THE RAINBOW BRIDGE IN NIAGARA FALLS, THE VIDEO OBTAINED BY THE NEW YORK STATION, WNBC GOT SHOWING THE VEHICLE TRAVELING VERY FAST BEFORE PEERING AT SOMETHING AND HITTING THAT'S NOT GOING AIRBORNE JUST LIKE THEY RECOUNTED. THE PEOPLE INSIDE OF THE VEHICLE, ARE NOW DEAD THEY SAID. NBC NEWS VESGA CORRESPONDENT TOM WINTER JOINS ME NOW, UPDATING WITH THE LATEST ON THE INVESTIGATION. TOM, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT, WE HEARD FROM THE EYEWITNESS, SOME DISCREPANCY IN THE DISCREPANCY, WHERE THE CAR WAS WHEN IT TOOK PLACE, BUT THE FACT THAT THE CAR APPEARED TO HAVE ORIGINATED, IT APPEARED TO ORIGINATE ON THE AMERICAN SIDE AND CRASHED INTO THE AMERICAN BORDER IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE INVESTIGATION RIGHT? >> YOU ARE EXACTLY CORRECT, IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE SO INTENTLY WATCHING THE INCIDENT FROM EARLIER TODAY IS THAT THE NORTHERN BORDER HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT TERROR INVESTIGATIONS OVER THE LAST 20 OR 25 YEARS OR SO. SO WE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT WHEN WE SEE AN INCIDENT AT THE NORTHERN BORDER, PARTICULARLY INDIVIDUALS COMING FROM CANADA. BUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY HERE NBC NEWS WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY NOT SAID WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM, THERE WERE SOME DISCREPANCIES AS YOU QUITE ACCURATELY DESCRIBED AMONGST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS COMING FROM. BUT IT'S CLEAR FROM THE PHOTOS AND PITCHERS AND WITNESS STATEMENTS, IT APPEARS THIS INCIDENT ORIGINATED ON THE U.S. SIDE. WHAT SPECIFICALLY LED UP TO IT IS SOMETHING VERY MUCH UNDER INVESTIGATION. MY CALLING JONATHAN REPORTING THE LAST 30 SECONDS, CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THE ROOT AND THEY PLACED THE VEHICLE BACK IT ONE LOCATION EARLIER TODAY, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHY IT HAPPENED, INTENTIONAL OR ACCIDENTAL, BUT WE HAVE THE VEHICLE WHERE THE VEHICLE IS CLEARLY GOING AT AN INCREDIBLE RATE OF NEED, IT'S THE MEDIAN, GOES UP IN THE AIR AND LANDS IN THAT POSITION WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE VIDEO NOW, AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE GOING AIRBORNE, A WHITE SEDAN, AND IT LANDS INTO THE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PATROL FACILITY AT THE BRIDGE AND BORDER CROSSING, AND FROM THERE BURST INTO FLAMES, AND THE PATTERN CLEARLY INDICATES THAT. THAT IS WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS TIME. THE SPECIFIC PERSON INVOLVED, IS A BIT UP IN THE AIR, QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO NAIL DOWN. OBVIOUSLY THE THING THAT MATTERS MOST IS WHY DID HAPPEN, IS IT AN INNOCUOUS THING, EPISODE, ANOTHER CRIME INVOLVED OR SOMETHING MUCH MORE IN THE AREA, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED AND WILL BE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. >> TO THAT POINT TOM, TWO DIFFERENT UPDATES, WE'RE EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM THE NEW YORK GOVERNOR, WHO'S GOING TO HOLD A BRIEFING AT ANY MOMENT HERE ALSO THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER, CHUCK SCHUMER, IT REPRESENTS NEW YORK, JUST TWEETED THAT HE WAS BREACHED BY THE FBI ON THE INCIDENT AT THE RAINBOW BRIDGE, HE SAID THE INITIAL REPORTS INDICATE THAT TWO PEOPLE WORK TO THE CAR BUT THE IMPORTANT PART, NOTHING HAS BEEN DETERMINED ABOUT THEIR IDENTITY OR MOTIVES. SO THAT APPEARS TO REMAIN TO BE AN OPEN QUESTION. HOW DOES THIS WORK NOW WITH U.S. CAN CANADIAN OFFICIALS? YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES INVOLVED IN THE INVESTIGATION, HOW WELL DO THEY WORK TOGETHER AND WILL THEY SHARE INFORMATION TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WENT WRONG? BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, IS GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS INFORMATION SHARING BACK AND FORTH, U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE, A RELATIONSHIP THAT IS PARTICULARLY STRONG WITH RESPECT IN YOUR STATE, NYPD, I CAN TELL YOU, THEY HAVE COOPERATION ACROSS THE BORDER, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, AND IT'S A TEAM THAT'S VERY MUCH WORKING TOGETHER, ASSUMING THERE IS A CANADIAN NEXUS BUT THAT APPEARS TO BE IN DOUBT. >> YOU DONATE TON OF REPORTING ABOUT HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF CONCERN, GIVEN ALL THE CONFLICTS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY OF TERROR ATTACKS, EVEN LONE WOLF TERROR ATTACKS, IS THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY RECEIVING SUCH INCREDIBLE RESPONSE? >> YES, BETWEEN THE NYPD SAYING IT'S A HEIGHTENED THREAT ENVIRONMENT AND THE FBI DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS EARLIER THIS WEEK WHICH COULD BE MORE CLEAR OR STARK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES FACING LAW ENFORCEMENT HEADING IN TO THANKSGIVING, ON THE EVEN IN THE COURSE OF THE BUSIEST TRAVELING DAY OF THE YEAR AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE INCIDENT AT THE U.S. AND CANADIAN BORDER, IT'S GOING TO GARNER EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. IN THE INITIAL INDICATIONS AND REPORTS, INDICATING THERE'S EXPLOSION, NO INDICATION BASED ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WE'VE SPOKEN TO THAT THERE ARE ANY EXPLOSIVES INVOLVED BUT IF CERTAIN YOU ARE IN EYEWITNESS AND HER THIS AND FOUND IT, IT WOULD HAVE SOUNDED LIKE IT. VERY UNDERSTANDABLY PEOPLE ARE ON EDGE, PAYING ATTENTION TO IT, THE FBI IN ACTION, IT IS A FEDERAL FACILITY SO THEY HAVE JURISDICTION AND THE ABILITY TO INVESTIGATE. SO THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF THE RESPONSE IN THE ATTENTION FRANKLY WE ARE PAYING TO IT AT THIS POINT. >> EXCELLENT REPORTING AS ALWAYS, LET US KNOW IF YOU GET ANY INFORMATION AND WE WILL GET IT TO THE VIEWERS. WE ARE EXPECTING TO HEAR AT ANY MOMENT FROM THE NEW YORK GOVERNOR ON THE SITUATION. >>> WELCOME BACK, AS WE MENTIONED, WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE NEW YORK GOVERNOR AFTER THE VEHICLE EXPLOSION IN NIAGARA FALLS, WE WILL BRING YOU THOSE REMARKS WHEN THEY DISTRACT THE BEGIN, IT'S TURN TO THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, AND THE GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS, TRYING TO TURN AROUND A STRUGGLING CAMPAIGN, THE GOOD NEWS, THE ENDORSEMENT, THE EVANGELICAL LEADER, WITH EACH OF THE LAST CONTESTED IOWA CAUCUSES, IT COMES AFTER HE STACKED THE ENDORSEMENT, FROM REYNOLDS BUT, THERE'S ALWAYS A BUT, AND OF COURSE THE LARGEST SUPER PAC SUPPORTING RON DESANTIS, THE CANDIDATE AND HIS WIFE AT ODDS WITH LEADERSHIP, SOME CLOSE RON DESANTIS ALLIES JUST LAST WEEK. THE NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, AND THE CONTRIBUTOR, DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER AND NBC POLITICAL ANALYST, AND ALSO A POLITICAL ANALYST, A DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS GOOD AND BAD NEWS FOR RON DESANTIS, AND EVERY TIME THEY'VE WAITED ON THE IOWA CAUCUS, THE CANDIDATE SKYROCKETS UP THE POOLS BUT IT DOESN'T IN THE SILLY LEAD TO A NOMINATION DOWN THE ROAD BUT DOES IT HELP THIS TIME AROUND? BIGGER NO QUESTION AROUND ITS HOPEFUL. THE REALITY, FAR AWAY A FRONT RUNNER IN EVERY REPUBLICAN CONTEST. AT THIS POINT IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE BASICALLY FIGHTING TO GET THE BIGGEST PARTICIPATION TROPHY. AND ADVANCED REPORTING, AND THE ENDORSEMENT, I WILL GOVERNOR ENDORSEMENT, AND WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, IT IS JUST WILD, IT IS MORE THAN A REGULAR SUPER PAC, ACTUALLY PUSHED THE BOUNDARIES OF HOW CLOSELY THE SUPER PAC COULD AND MISSIONS OF THE CAMPAIGN, THE RESULT IS THAT VOTERS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. THE SUPER PAC HAS RUN THE ATTACK ADS, NIKKI HALEY, VOTERS BLAME DESANTIS ON IT, IT IS COMING HOME TO ROOST, AND PART OF THE REASON THAT THERE IS A SECOND RON DESANTIS SUPER PAC THAT IS SET UP, AND IT DOESN'T WELL WHATSOEVER FOR THE CAMPAIGN.>> SUCH A GOOD POINT, AND IN FUNDRAISING AFTER THE SUPER PAC, IS THE PROBLEM, IF YOU CAN CONTROL, AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS AWAY FROM THE CAUCUSES. >> THERE HAS BEEN SOME WIDESPREAD REPORTING AND FRUSTRATION, AND THE SUPER PAC AND THE MESSAGE ABOUT THE WAY THEY WERE IN THE CAMPAIGN. IN THE ORGANIZATION, THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE REPORTING AS WELL, IN THE CAMPAIGN. THE BIGGER PROBLEM I THINK IS FOR THE MEMBERS, HE CAME OUT AND LOOKED LIKE HE WAS REVEALED THE ALTERNATIVE, SOME $100 MILLION IN THE TIME SINCE AND HIS NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED MORE THAN IN HALF, A LOT OF PEOPLE QUESTION INCLUDING THE SUPPORTERS, WHY THE CAMPAIGN IN THE SUPER PAC DECIDED TO GO OFF THE SMALL SLIVER, 30% OF PEOPLE COMMITTED TO DONALD TRUMP, TRYING TO PEEL OFF THOSE VOTERS, RATHER THAN LOOK THERE AND OPPOSED TO TRUMP. >> THE NEW YORK TIMES IS REPORTING THAT THE CEO IS STEPPING DOWN AND HE DID STEP DOWN, AND AN EXAMPLE OF IT. AND INTERESTING, RON DESANTIS WAS THE CANDIDATE THAT DEMOCRATS FEAR THE MOST BUT IS THAT THE CASE STILL? >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE EVER WAS, AND THE CORONATION, AND THEY'VE SMASHED THOSE, AND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, I WE DO AND TOO MUCH MONEY, HUNDREDS OF GOINGS OF DOLLARS. AND AND SOME TENANTS ARE GOOD ON PAPER AND IN REALITY. THE DISTAL PAN OUT. AND BY THE CHANGE IN STRATEGY. >> IS THERE ANY SCENARIO BY WHICH DONALD TRUMP CAN? FIGURE DEPENDING ON THE POLL, HE HAS A 40 OR 50 POINT LEAD AMONGST HIS OPPONENTS. REPUBLICAN OPPONENTS. IT'S INTERESTING TO WATCH THE RON DESANTIS CAMPAIGN AND THE ENDORSEMENTS, AND INTERESTING TIME, WHEN HE'S LOSING MOMENTUM AND NIKKI HALEY IS GAINING MOMENTUM. IF YOU HAD ASKED THEM, ANYONE WOULD'VE BET THAT KIM REYNOLDS WOULD HAVE ADORED NIKKI HALEY AND EFFECT SHE DIDN'T. AND BOB VANDER PLATTS SIGNALED IT WAS COMING FOR LONG TIME BUT AN ENDORSEMENT AT THE TIME WHEN IT COULD REVIVE RON DESANTIS IN IOWA, BUT YOU ARE SEEING NIKKI HALEY PULLING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY IN A WAY THAT IS LIKELY TO ALL REDOUND TO THE BENEFIT OF DONALD TRUMP. >> WE ARE IN AGREEMENT. >> AND REGARDING THE SUPER PAC I SHOULD MENTION, A LOT -- ATTACKING IT, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. >> WE KNOW HER AS CROOKED HILARY, BUT NIKKI HALEY CALLED HER A ROLE MODEL AND THE REASON SHE RAN FOR OFFICE. >> I OFTEN SAY THE REASON I GOT INTO POLITICS IS BECAUSE OF HILARY CLINTON >> SHE'S THE REASON I MADE THE JUMP. [ LAUGHTER ]>> TO THE POINT THEY ARE MAKING, IT'S NOT A RECIPE FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN A PRIMARY? >> NO QUESTION, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 AND 2015 TO TOO MANY ANTITRUST REPUBLICANS WHO STAND FOR TOO LONG AND THE RESULT WAS THAT THE ANTI-TRUMP COHORT GOT TOTALLY DILUTED AND BY THE TIME THEY SIMPLY WALKED AWAY WITH IT. IT WILL BE URGED TO SEE WITH THE AD, OBVIOUSLY FASCINATING CONTENT, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT BACKFIRES, SOME OF THE ATTACK ADS, WITH THE SUPER PAC, LOBDILL THE IT'S NIKKI HALEY ACTUALLY HURT RON DESANTIS. THIS IS ANOTHER SUPER PAC AD, AND IF I WOULD VOTERS HAVE BEEN ABORTED WITH ENOUGH CONTENT THAT THEY KNOW NEVER BACK DOWN IS WORKING ON RON DESANTIS' BEHALF, AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF A SPOT LIKE THIS HELPS OR HARMS HIM. >> ISN'T THERE A RULE POSSIBILITY THAT HE GETS OUT AND ENDORSES DONALD TRUMP. >> THINK IT'S TRUE BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S A STRETCH, AND THATN INCREDIBLE STRETCH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND CHOICE, LOOK AT AND I WILL, 45 OR 46%, AT LEAST 12 EARTH 13%, THERE OUT OF VOTES, HE WINS BECAUSE THEY RUN OUT OF VOTES. >> HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OF YOU. APPRECIATE IT. HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY.>>> THE WORD ON THE SPEECH BY KATHY LOCAL WILL BEGIN, 5 PM EASTERN TIME, WE WILL BRING IT >>> A LIVE LOOK NOW AT KNOTTS FALLS NEW YORK, WE EXPECT YOUR GOVERNOR TRENT WENT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CRASH AT THE BORDER, SET TO BEGIN FIVE MINUTES FROM NOW, YOU CAN SEE IT LIVE RIGHT HERE ON BC NEWS. >>> AS MANY AMERICANS GATHER FOR THANKSGIVING CELEBRATIONS TOMORROW, WE ARE DRAWING ATTENTION TO ANOTHER CELEBRATION. NOVEMBER IS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WHEN THE U.S. HONORS THE RICH HISTORY AND MANY CONTRIBUTIONS OF NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. FOR MORE ON NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, I'M JOINED, IT IS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WHAT CAN PEOPLE DO TO HONOR THIS MONTH AND I JUST PAY LIP SERVICE AS THEY CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING? >> COVERING NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, THANK YOU, I THINK AMERICANS CAN SPEND SOME TIME REALLY EDUCATING THEMSELVES, AND LOOK AS A COUNTRY COLLECTIVELY, WE HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US IN TERMS OF DEEPENING OUR KNOWLEDGE OF TRIBES IN THIS COUNTRY, REMEMBER TRIBES WERE HERE BEFORE ANYONE HEARD OF THE UNITED STATES, EXERCISING THE RIGHTS HANDED TO US BY THE CREATOR TO GOVERN OURSELVES AS FREE PEOPLE. I THINK EXPLORING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MOMS AND DADS CAN DO WITH KIDS, THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCE INCLUDING THE CHEROKEE NATION WEBSITE, AND OTHER RESOURCES, START THINKING AND TALKING TO THE GENERATION COMING UP A PARTICULAR ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE ERRORS OF OPPRESSION AND ATROCITIES VISITED UPON TRIBAL PEOPLE BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT, ABOUT THE GREAT PROGRESS THAT TRIBES ARE MAKING. THINK ABOUT THE CHEROKEE NATION, ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE AND DYNAMIC GOVERNMENTS IN THE COUNTRY, LEADING IN A LOT OF WAYS, IF A LOT OF AMERICANS CAME AND SAW WHAT WE DO, THEY WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FROM OUR GOVERNMENT, ALL WHILE MAINTAINING HER CULTURE AND HERITAGE, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL TO LEARN BUT EDUCATION IS THE KEY. >> EXPAND ON THAT, WHAT ARE SOME INITIATIVES THAT ARE MOST HELPFUL FOR HONORING AND PRESERVING THE CHEROKEE HERITAGE SPECIFICALLY? BIGGER I THINK THE EDUCATION PIECE IS IMPORTANT. INDIAN COUNTRY IS NOT A MONOLITH, TRIBES ARE DIVERSE, WE HAVE DIVERSE CULTURES AND HISTORIES, AND WHEN IT COMES TO CHEROKEE NATION, A GOOD WAY TO LEARN ABOUT NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY BROADLY THOUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S COMMON THEMES, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT AND EXPLORE OUR FORCED REMOVAL, A TRAIL OF TEARS, THE REMOVAL OF CHEROKEE PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES WANTED TO SOLVE AN INDIAN PROBLEM, YOU START THINKING EXPLORING THAT PART OF OUR HISTORY, YOU CAN THINK MORE, AND TALKING TO THE GENERATION COMING UP, WHAT THE COUNTRY DID THAT WAS WRONG BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS RIGHT TODAY IN TERMS OF HONORING TRIBES AND RECOGNIZING TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY. THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CHEROKEE NATION HAS TREATIES WITH THE UNITED STATES GOING BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF THE COUNTRY, ONE WAY TO EXPLORE TREATIES AS THE THINK ABOUT THE CHEROKEE NATION'S RIGHT TO A DELEGATE TO CONGRESS, A 200- YEAR-OLD TREATY GIVES US A RIGHT TO A DELEGATE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THAT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, THAT IS STILL THE LAW OF THE LAND, SO THAT SHOWS THE RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT YET BEEN SECURED, MANY AMERICANS, WHETHER YOU ARE NATIVE AMERICAN OR NOT, CAN GET BEHIND THAT IDEA, THAT AMERICA OUGHT TO KEEP ITS PROMISE. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CULTURE AND WONDERFUL LANGUAGE THAT HAD BEEN ENDANGERED, PEOPLE CAN EXPLORE HOW THE CHEROKEE NATION IS REVITALIZING ITS LANGUAGE. AND THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN ACROSS INDIAN COUNTRY ON A LOT OF SUBJECTS. >> YOU MENTIONED REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS, RECENTLY ELECTED EIGHT CHEKEE NATION DELEGATE, AND BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING IN CONGRESS, NOT SEATED BUT WORSE EVERYTHING STANDING IN CONVERSATIONS WITH WASHINGTON IN TERMS OF GETTING YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN OFFICE? BIGGER FRANKLY ON MY PART THERE IS A MIX OF FRUSTRATION BUT ALSO TAKING A LONG VIEW ON THE SUBJECT. IT IS A 200-YEAR-OLD TREATY RIGHT, WE ASSERTED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2019 WHEN WE NOMINATED KIM AND THE COUNCIL CONFIRMED HER EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE FRUSTRATING PART, IT'S A SIMPLE PUBLISHING, THE LANGUAGE IS SIMPLE THE TREATY, THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES CAN CHOOSE THE ONLY CORRECT PATH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GRAY AREA, IT'S A PROMISE AND IT OUGHT TO BE KEPT. THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING PART. WHAT I NEED TO EXERCISE PATIENCE WE ARE SPENDING TIME EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. I THINK AS WE GET PAST THE END OF THE YEAR, CONGRESS WILL HAVE BEEN PASSING THIS LEADERSHIP CHANGES. CONGRESS WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY STABILIZE THE GOVERNMENT FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT AND WE CAN HOPEFULLY STOP WORRIED ABOUT SHUTDOWNS FOR A WHILE AND WE CAN BRING THIS ISSUE TO THE FOREFRONT. WE ARE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, PROMISE MADE, PROMISE KEPT. >> IS SOMEONE WHO COVERS CONGRESS EVERY DAY, I ALSO HOPE FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. >>>
