Medieval Crossbow vs Flexible Armours

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This is getting even more interesting now actually, this is not what I would expect at all. Hi it's Tod from Tod's Workshop and Tod Cutler here, and today we're gonna have a look at these three types of medieval crossbow bolt and we are going to shoot them at these three types of medieval armor from the year 1250, there abouts, so before the advent of plate armour. This is not an exhaustive test, it is not going to give us all the answers we need about any of this, but it's just going to give us an indication and it's something that I'm interested in. I want to know how these bolts fare against this kind of armour. The bow I've chosen here is a faux composite so this is actually steel clad with wood it is not a real composite bow, but the reason I've chosen this look for it, is it's based on an image from the siege Lincoln Fair in 1217. The bow to me looks like a composite, it was probably spanned with a spanning belt by a professional crossbowmen, that is not me, so I've made the assumption he can draw a lot more than I can.... so I'm cheating. This is a 350 pound draw weight bow, I am spanning it with the goats foot lever, he probably would have used a belt. Then we have the maille and the jack. The maille is a riveted link male around about 10 mm or 3/8 an inch links maybe as good as some medieval maille, maybe worse, don't really know. It'll be better than some, worse than others. It's the maille that I've got. That would be worn over a garment, because otherwise it's hellishly uncomfortable, but the garment itself is not armour, not in its own right. So that's just a five layer wool and canvas jack. Then we look at the gambeson here. We have late 15th century ordinance that specifies how is made. Doe skin over the top, 30 odd layers of a soft washed linen. That is a 15th century source, 250 years out-of-date, but presumably, they did something similar. It's the closest we've got. This is made of cotton wadding, loose cotton wadding, raw cotton and then a sheet a fabric top and bottom and the whole lot sewn together with with a linen thread. I might be butchering this completely, but I believe that Arabic for cotton is 'al qatn' and this is called an aketon and there is an assumption, I think it's a general assumption, that the two words are related and that these were stuffed with raw cotton. Raw cotton is this stuff here so it's just the cotton fibers. That's just built up and then just sewn down in channels and what you end up with is, you know, a reasonably supple definitely sword proof in terms of cutting, stabbing not so sure and again is it puncture proof from a bolt? Don't know. Let's find out? Talking through the bolts. We have got on your right hand side, a short bodkin, in the middle we've got a barbed flesh cutting head and on the left-hand side we have got a needle bodkin. My understanding of the needle bodkin is that it is effective against maille and it is effective against fabric. That's really what I want to find out today. Then we have the barbed head, this is a hunting head but it's also a head for war, so it's very effective against flesh obviously you you can't pull it out so easily. But also it should be able to go through fabric relatively well. The last one that we're going to be looking at is the short bodkin. Now I've picked the year of 1250, the reason for that is that plate armor starts to come in after that and things change again, but the thing is, let's say we pick the year 1400, people will still be wearing simple maille and padded garments so they will be facing bolts like this with these garments so it's just to see how this would fare in that situation. My experiment today is not going to be exhaustive, it can't be, there's so much we don't know I've had to make so many assumptions. So the armour we don't really know about we don't know quite how the the aketon was constructed, we don't know quite how the gambeson or the maille and its undergarment was constructed we don't know the power of the bow. We do pretty much know the shape of the heads and that really is about it. But what this will do will give us a comparator of one bolt head type to another bolt head type and what they do. Whether this is exactly how they would have performed 700,800 years ago? Well we simply don't know. Does it give us an indicator of what's going on? Well hopefully yes it will. So we're gonna go shoot this stuff now and if you're interested in any of this this is available on my websites. Let's go. First up we'll shoot the armour piercing head. Just loading up with my goats foot. Straight off. Next up flesh cutter I think. Well that was straight in. I guess the armour piercer, the plate cutter would still give you some broken ribs or something though. Now for the needle bodkin so this is the one specifically designed against this armour and again straight in. So let's go and have a look at those. This is interesting and not exactly what I would expect. So this was the aketon sample, now this is the needle bodkin here which has penetrated around about three inches/75 millimeters something like that maybe a little bit more. That is going to be into a torso, probably a fatal wound ultimately, maybe not then, but in the next day, two day. But the flesh cutter here, let's have a look how deep that is because that has gone in significantly deeper than.....significantly deeper .....okay so that went all the way through the back. That went in around about....that deep, so about four inches something like that. A hundred mm so 100 mm into your torso not this is ballistic gel but a hundred mil into your torso is definitely going to be nasty. But against the aketon, the flesh cutter was a better performer than the needle bodkin, the short bodkin, the plate cutter just bounced straight off. Next up we're going to shoot the gambeson see how it fares with these three bolts again so let's go for it. Same bow. Same bolts. Different armour. So this time it's the gambeson. Plate cutter first again. Again it bounced straight off, broken ribs I think. So flesh arrow again.... straight in. I was hoping it would be defeated by that. Then the last is the needle bodkin and again that was in. This is getting even more interesting now, actually this is not what I would expect at all. So here is where the plate cutter hit, it hasn't even broken the outside of the surface so this is without a doubt proof against plate cutting heads. But here is the needle bodkin which I thought was supposed to be very good against fabric armour, but look at it. So if I just pull that oh.... it's tough... blimey this is tough. There we go. What you've got there is 30 mm/inch and a quarter that's the penetration. So actually through the other side of that was probably only about here maybe an inch. So this would be a survivable wound with that. But then let's come down have a look at this. This is the flesh arrow again, the flesh bolt. I was not expecting it to fare so well. So if we have a look at this now, this is 40-45 millimetres/ inch and a half in and the barbs are now inside your body as well, so this is really going to mess your day up, but what's interesting is; I thought that needle bodkins were against fabric armour but the flesh cutter is working much better than the needle bodkins. Just so you know, this flesh cutter here, we have a look, i've not sharpened it like a razor it's relatively sharp but my feeling is that munition type weapons are never going to be treated like an individual's personal amazingly kept kit, so I haven't sharpened this like a razor blade and it's still going clean through. Here we go for the last of our armour samples so we've got maille, riveted maille over a jack which is five layers of wool and linen, then onto our foam and the target beyond. Starting with our plate cutter again let's see how this does. Well bounced off, not a good day for the plate cutter. I'm gonna go for the flesh arrow. Also bounced off, which I think I kind of expected. So what is the needle bodkin gonna do? Now I thought that it was good against fabric armour, I don't think it is, in fact we've shown it isn't. Is it good against maille? Yes it is. Let's go and have a look at that. Well we have some answers. So the plate cutter was shot first again as you saw bounced straight off. Next up was the flesh bolt, again bounced straight off. Didn't even think about penetrating, a little bit mullered on the end here on the edges. And the third one that went through, not so great against fabric armour, either the aketon or the gambeson, but against the maille it was... Oh...actually this is jammed in there.... that is how deep it went into the maille and through the jack. The others were defeated completely by this armour the needle bodkin, straight on in there. I found the results of this really interesting it's not at all what I was expecting. It's not a scientific experiment that's what I'll say again; we don't have the information to accurately make the armour because there is no information, but this compares what I've done, I've told you what I've done and we've compared it and this is what we've got. So the plate cutter performed absolute rubbish. Bounced off everything the flesh cutter did far better than I was expecting actually, so it penetrated the aketon, deeper than the needle bodkin definitely to a killing depth. Gambeson to a killing depth, more than the needle bodkin, bounced straight off the maille and the jack. Needle bodkin penetrated both the aketon and the gambeson. The gambeson though, it only penetrated around about an inch and a quarter or 30 mm, probably not a killing depth. So that was interesting, because I thought that the needle bodkins were against fabric armour. But. Against the maille everything else bounced off, that went through and it went through to a killing depth. So I can conclude from this. In my experiments here today, needle bodkins, great against maille, flesh heads against fabric armor and against bare flesh and the plate cutter, bare flesh obviously, but against plate armour. But we still don't know the whole story of that because if you look at my Arrows versus Armour video, you'll see that we haven't yet learned everything there is to know about these things; we'll be visiting that again. So thank you very much for watching, I hope you've enjoyed it, it's been really interesting for me and if you're interested in medieval weapons go check my websites out. It's worth it. Thank you
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Channel: Tod's Workshop
Views: 441,442
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Keywords: Medieval, Tod's Workshop, History, gambeson, aketon, maille, chainmail, crossbow, crossbow bolts, flexible armour, Lincoln fair, medieval arrows, Longbow, bodkin arrows, armour piercing arrows
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Length: 13min 19sec (799 seconds)
Published: Fri Mar 20 2020
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