Mark Cuban on Bill Gates Stealing His Girl!

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for this summer yeah nice how's that you got all the sponsored man you all shark tanked out you gotta give your happy dads you gotta get the happy nights everywhere i know i know i know well these are all yours only yours this is our seltzer happy dad i knew you had that actually about what a year ago now i know you guys have been killing it i think we're actually i don't know if you've seen our when we do our tours with happy dad like we physically shows up to the the liquor stores and it's always like crazy we're actually gonna bring uh we're gonna do with bsb with jamie oh that's even going to bring him to one of our tours and like help promote csb yeah that's been awesome yeah yeah i love that stuff how's the summer league summer league you know ups and downs yeah i mean it's cool just to see everybody but um you know watching other games they're just sloppy right but they're fun you like anybody yeah i mean i like our guys jane harden yeah yeah judy hardy's really good what about uh chet hologram he's got a lot yeah he's you know he's gonna have to get stronger but he's talented yeah talented i think um um bachara is going to be really good right off the bat um jabari smith i didn't really get to see play yet but i mean all these guys are talented yeah you know and even if they don't like just dive in and hit it running they're going to figure it out they're just that good any of your guys out here watching yeah we um a bunch of our players right here reggie bullock dwight powell maxi cleva um josh green um theo pinson christian wood the whole contingency that's good yeah do you think uh vegas is ever going to get an nba team yeah how do you think it'll do here yeah i mean if nhl does well yeah i mean it's just if they just play the lakers and clippers everybody will just come down from la and just tear it up but yeah they'll do great here how do you how do you go about like buying a team like that and like make a lot of [ __ ] money first i mean seriously i mean it's just you know it's just you've the prices keep on going up because the business keeps on getting better and it's just it's getting to the point now where it's almost impossible for a single person just to buy one you know so now you're seeing um ownership groups um come together to to buy teams and you know and there might be five 10 20 even organizations involved but that that's what it takes it's just it's expensive what what's like the business model of like owning a team like is it when you take a stake in a team is it like a long term play are you like cashing out like along the way it just depends like for me it's it was more about winning you know and just because before i bought the mavs the map sucked right and you know and i've been a basketball junkie as long as i can remember and so it was really all right are you doing this as a business or you're doing it because you love basketball and i'm truly a baller's life guy man you know some of the best parts for me are going out before a game and getting shots out for shooting with the guys or you know just yeah no it's really cool man and so you know i put you know winning over profits and always have i mean most of the years i've had the team i have not made money you're like a you're a player's guy though you have a good relationship with all the players off the court pretty much i mean i'm not close to all of them it's like any other business you get closer to some than others you know you know i was hanging out with a bunch of the guys here this weekend and having fun and it just depends you know it just depends on the circumstances you think they like clean up their act when you're around no no no you know because it's more can they keep up with me then oh yeah yeah all right you want to get in here yeah i just got to change my shirt i spilled coffee on the shirt yeah all right we want to give a shout out to the win and xs nightclub love you guys honestly i had some some good and bad nights here we were here last weekend yeah oh you were yeah we're back too soon we're here for uh the ufc fight oh wow yeah yeah we're here this weekend too i love the spot you ever been to any fights yeah yeah i went to um i actually um got i went to brad holy what's up i dropped coffee right when i came in here i'm sorry this is an intimidation thing for him or what's going on i have a shirt yeah you might as well not wear a shirt and start doing push-ups no no no no no it's not what it looks like for the mavs i spilled coffee what did i miss nothing nothing we're just getting started okay cool yeah um no i want to bring mark on too because the new thing you're doing with the with the pharmacy and the in the drugs that's interesting how does how does that work where you're getting like the drug prices lower so you know everybody has knows somebody's just been messed up because of pricing the drugs right and in this day and age to have to choose between your rent or your food or an emergency or your medication that's just wrong and so you know when you look at what i like to do as a business guy as an entrepreneur is look for industries you can disrupt right and when you see something that's been done the same way all the time that's usually a good signal time to take a look and when you look at the pharmaceutical industry there's these things called pharmacy benefit managers that just act as middlemen and just squeeze a little bit from everybody so that and as a result prices go up for medications and you know even stuff that should be low cost isn't and so what we said was okay could we create a a drug i don't call it drugstore but could we create a platform where we could sell starting generics and then brand name drugs cheaper than everybody else and if we do this outside of the traditional system of the existing system can we be profitable and can we grow this thing so that we literally can change the game for for medications and that's what we did with costplusdrugs.com so we buy rather than going through these pharmacy benefit managers we buy straight from the manufacturer we post the price that we pay it for pay for it right on the costplus drugs.com mark it up 15 at three bucks for shipping and handling five bucks for shipping for um three bucks for pharmacy handling and um five bucks for shipping so the main hit is transparency 100 yeah because you don't know like if if you look at the price of insulin or something you have no idea why it caused blood costs yeah because i know that it can be a lot cheaper yeah there's a lot of things that can be a lot cheaper yeah i mean there's drugs like there's a chemotherapy drug and monotop i think is pronounced and if you don't have insurance and your doctor just prescribes it and that's for someone who has leukemia it could be as high as twenty seven hundred dollars we sell it for fifty four dollars wow you know yeah yeah yeah it's insane right and they look when you're sick you find out you have leukemia you go to the hospital you go to the doctor yummy you're not in good spot as it is and they say okay you know here's what you pretty much pay this or die how can you yeah how can they market up that much pay this or die control right this big farm have like a lot of control over yeah i mean it's not even the manufacturers it's all these middlemen that just take their vague take their vig take their vig right and then the next thing you know unless you are you know have great insurance not just good insurance great insurance you're paying a shitload of money for it and there's nobody to stop them that's why you're not in the game that's why we're pissed like borderline criminal that they could like yeah it really really is are they pissed off at you yeah they are right you know our partners and stuff they're already telling them you know you you know they can't stop them per se but they can you know they all have contracts it's like you know this is the way we're enforcing the contracts and so we might not be able to deal with this one company or manufacturer today but the minute that contract's over they'll come and work with us do you think that you doing this will make other people other companies start to like follow suit and change their models yeah there's two parts to that right why doesn't someone else do what we do exactly yeah and you know in the past they have tried but what ends up happening is those big pharma companies just buy them it's like you guys know as an entrepreneur right someone walks in and says 200 million deal they're going yep you know we'll take it you know and that's how you control it yeah and then that's happened in the past yeah yeah but my next dollar is not going to change my life and i get a lot more enjoyment just [ __ ] them up it's different yeah it's totally different and so i've been through that side and so that that's on one side of it so that's why people haven't done it before and in terms of can someone else now come in and do it it feels the same way yeah they could but that's not a bad thing you know you know i might not make money off of it but at the same time if going forward everybody gets their medications at a price they can afford and you know you don't have no you're actually making changes changing the game yeah we're changing the game so i'm down with that didn't amazon buy a pharma company yeah um and pillpack and they're doing it too but amazon you have to be a member and most people are but the prices are just higher you know could they match it yeah pr obviously they could even undercut us and subsidize it but at the same time amazon's so big they don't need to do that yeah you know they you know they don't want to lose money on this because if you know they start subsidizing it and losing money on it then all of a sudden you know that it's big this is a big industry right it's not like it's just 10 million dollars why mess with it you know that's real money that they would lose so i have a question i want to take it back okay um because you said something earlier about like identifying something and disrupting it like that's how you make moves now before like because you you started something that was pretty groundbreaking yeah we started the streaming industry yes yeah right extremely groundbreaking you sold it and that was like your your first like big success second second big success so i have a question for you do you think that like people like because i also know that you kind of came from from nothing just a normal family yeah you weren't handed anything no nothing do you think it's harder for people now to reach the level of success that you have because um because of the saturation no no i think it's easier do you think it's easier i think it's easier i mean look at you all right you all have good idea good connection to people right just went for it and when other people might say you do a b and c or you should do a b and c you did d e and f right and found your angle and you know the only thing that can stop you is would it work or you know was it a good idea or not and that's the thing like you have so many tools like back in the day you know you had to buy these big computers and you know [ __ ] was more expensive now you get a laptop or an ipad and you get an internet connection and you can have any technology right now i think social media too and i mean look what we're doing now right we're doing this and you're going to have it up on youtube and streaming it and millions of people are going to be able to get to it yeah and it's not like you're spending millions of dollars like a tv show or a movie would have been 25 years ago right it's actually easier now on one hand the tools are are cheaper and more accessible the other hand there's more competition yeah right i also say like there's less i mean it seems like there's less space you don't understand in the sense of more competition like you know back back then you could create this the streaming thing but now it's like it's there's already a thousand versions right but but look again look what you guys are doing and so you went from you know it was all about instagram and snapchat here's tik tok right and you you if you're first and you start rolling on tick tock you got an edge then you got you know youtube right so look at how youtube's evolved and where you guys you guys how long have you guys been doing this the podcast you've probably been doing youtube i've been doing youtube 10 years 11 years almost how much has it changed so much oh my god crazy the evolution of youtube's insane yeah i mean and i could take you back 20 to 1998 when we started doing the first video podcast or internet broadcast and a lot of this it was the same stuff right the exact you sit there this type of stuff only and you can stream it live only look like a postage stamp right yeah but you know it just takes creative people who are curious to try new things that have the balls to go out and do it yeah you know what's funny is i see you on tick-tock a little bit yeah hell yeah i got mine you're doing the dances oh yeah he's doing the dances i saw it the other day yeah give it to you are you is it on your page or is that your daughter's uh mine and my daughters oh nice yeah so you're just having fun with it yeah why not man you know because if you're going to be in tech and you're going to be in marketing and you're going to know how to start a business and run a business you got to know all the platforms and you've got to know what's going to work and what's not going to work um you got to look like you talked about youtube and it's changed right how you get paid on youtube how you promote right what works and who doesn't work right who's big who's not who's coming who's going and you know and then all of a sudden someone comes in okay we're gonna roll up all these guys right we're gonna we're gonna create a network of all this and those come and those go and so you just gotta stay on top of it i gotta stay on top of it that's the only way to get ahead how do you identify what's next you know i just read a lot right i'm just one of those guys that just consumes information the internet or where everything yeah everything anywhere i can get i just try to learn you've always been this way yeah yeah i've always been like a knowledge geek where it mostly tech but it could be anything i just anything business related technology related marketing related you know culture related i want to try to stay on top of it you know steve steve jobs had this this one quote that really stuck with me he said everything's a remix and if you look at the early days of the apple products there was this company back in the day called xerox park and xerox came out with the first mouse-driven pc but their marketing sucked and they had no idea what they were doing no one knew what they're about steve jobs came in a little bit of this a little bit remixed and bam right all of a sudden you got apple and then a macintosh and then he made it sexier yeah and then even he got fired right he got fired from that company and then they had to bring him back to make it work and so you know for me the more you learn the more you know how to remix and that's what this is all about so you know how do you go from youtube which was the first platform for video that got big to instagram to snapchat and know okay do i want to be on discover do i want to be on reels do i want to be on tick tock you know and if i do this you know how's youtube going to treat me and all the decisions you guys you guys have got to make on a daily basis you know and the fact that like we're just talking you created all these products and you want it to be organic that's a business decision too and then you have to learn by trial and error right you were curious about what might work you know obviously you know you're walking proof of what does work right and now you've got to be able to continue to make those decisions because in this business with all the margins on these products everybody's coming at you all the time right yeah and they think they can do the exact same thing but it's not that easy but for me it's like that's why i try to stay ahead because whether it's artificial intelligence whether it's vr whether it's crypto whether it's metaverse all these things may not be prime time yet but i want to know when they will be and i want to be out front when they when they are have you ever made any like major mistakes like any big issues like you missed the ship you missed the boat yeah lots of times i mean what was he the biggest one ring no that was not my that's not a shark tank shark tank no it wasn't a miss at all no no no i still wouldn't do that deal why so all respect to jamie the guy who started but i've and same thing like my biggest biggest miss probably was uber right because damn the guy before travis kalani um his i was an investor in his previous company it was called red swoosh and we made money and we sold it and we did good and he brought uber to me it was called ubercab and i still got the emails but his whole thing was you know he was just going to go into every municipality and just say [ __ ] it all we're just going to start and i'm like all the taxicab commissions are just going to just sit on you right and you're going to have to raise hundreds of millions of dollars to do tens of millions of dollars talk about our like a revolutionary idea no no it was amazing right and i told and i thought it was and you know it wasn't that i was wrong on the idea it was just for the execution it was gonna be it was gonna you're gonna have to raise so much money that you get deluded to next to nothing ring was the same way right you know it's great they sold for a billion it's the doorbell thing right yeah yeah yeah more power to them but they had to raise 400 million dollars and if they weren't bought they wouldn't be here so it's high risk that's that way and it's just as an investor you keep on getting deluded and deluded and diluted until you know you start off owning 15 or 20 percent of the company then you own one half of one percent when you're as successful as you are and you miss these do you do you care [ __ ] you yeah i mean no one wants to miss you know um but particularly since it was like uber was like a layup you know um but you know i recovered i'm okay i feel like you can't get too pissed at the ones you miss if you're getting a lot of w's too right yeah i mean and that's it right i mean this you know whether it's cost plus drugs which is like we're already you know in our projections we're five months in we just launched january 19th of 2022 and we where we're at today we expected to be two years from now and we have a chance to add a lot of really impactful drugs what do you think that is well we always knew that there was a market right i mean anybody you know that's out there your mom or your dad or your grandparents or whoever you know if we go to cost plus drugs and you put in the price you're already paying and then you see work 10 times less or 50 less whatever it is you're like okay and now you're getting that prescription because something's wrong right because there's a health issue somewhere along the line and whoever you share that health issue with you're telling everybody else yeah right so if you have leukemia and you need a monotab and you were you know you even see somebody was paying two thousand or twenty seven hundred and here it is you came in and bought it for fifty four dollars you're telling your doctor who's telling the other doctor it's such a necessity yeah and all the people when you're sick like that everybody gets in the same facebook groups or whatever twitter groups you know and they communicate with each other and you're like oh let me help you out right stop paying that money or stop paying that you know um co-pay because this is better it sounds like you're really trying to help the people out though if you go from 2700 to 50 dollars like you could be selling it for more than 50 likes yeah surprise you're not getting more pressure like i'm surprised more people aren't being like yeah you ever [ __ ] are you ever scared like [ __ ] around in that industry because i feel like that's a scary industry to not really scared but i know they're gonna try to [ __ ] with me they already have like i told you before right there yeah you know live up to the letter of your contract you know maybe you shouldn't do business with cosplus drugs we're already hearing those stories but that's okay they can [ __ ] with me i'm good is there any like media stories coming after you or anything like that any which like media coming yeah there's been little things like you know there where it's like well this isn't the all that right that people are making out to be and i'm like fine i don't care about that just spell her name right because this is one of those things that you know if you make people a little bit curious i mean who doesn't want to pay less for their medications yeah especially if it's like a life life threatening anything it almost sounds too good to be true it's so good that's what people say right that's that's the rip on it right no it's mark cuban you know he's not doing this for charity what the [ __ ] right why why is he doing this my next dollar is not going to change my life but the ability to say you know what what did i do right yeah look at all the [ __ ] you know that the farmer bro and all the publicity he got for that now just imagine turning it the other way and saving lives and making people's lives better yeah i mean you know i don't need my name on buildings but that's why i put my name on this drug i'm on this company right it's called the mark cuban cost plus drug company because i wanted people to know it's like a legacy thing yeah and i'm serious about it and i want my kids to be proud of it you know that this is going to be around for a long time i love it how do people find it what's that how do people find it you just go to costplus drugs.com that's it cost plus drugs yeah getting out there you're just like word of mouth we don't spend a nickel on advertising not a penny what's the plan b prices compared to like regular yeah i mean is it like a lot cheaper yeah no it's not it's just our price is always the same our price is always the same cost plus fifteen percent three dollars for handling five dollars for shipping he's got a customer and for you know for contraceptive and for planning what's that website yeah you could order like a dozen of them right as long as the doctor prescribes them it doesn't matter you won't need them don't worry about it yeah i need to get a baby mama we're gonna baby mama maybe i have a question for you though like personally and i i've always wondered this like you you you're a billionaire you got all the money you can do anything you want in the world like what do you do on your free time like when you can do anything yeah now it's my kids right my kids are 12 15 and 18. so i'm at that spot now we're like going to play one-on-one with my son is is pretty cool just you know my 18 year old daughter is getting ready to go to college so just getting any of her time is cool um and then my middle daughter's you know is is just unique man she's just she's crazy and i love the hanging time so that that's really like my number one priority now um but you know i was here in vegas this weekend and there was the encore beach club and you know our guys were there and so i'm not above hey we're there behind the chainsmokers weren't you yeah yeah she'll get after it a bit you know what you guys couldn't hang but that's okay i don't know i don't think you want to go down that road don't trust me trust me you know i have a lot more experience yeah but what do you so if it wasn't family and if it was not business what do you enjoy play golf i'm not a golfer i hate golf but i play i play pick up basketball so like a couple times a week i'll go play pick up basketball go work out um you know go hang with my friends whatever chill but yeah but now you know it's family and and and business and and working out more than anything else what what drives you if it's not money now is it just like competition winning yeah competition business is the all times i think a lot of people too like we're not obviously on your level but i think people always think it's just about money too but sometimes it's just about like achieving something oh no you want to prove people wrong business is the ultimate sport you know i wrote this little book called the sport of business and like 10 years ago and it was only 94 pages because i want to keep it really really short because i wanted people just to bang through all of my experiences yeah and um it's all about competition because you know like i've said to our players you know luca or whoever is just like look you bust your ass you get to be one of the top 450 players in the world in the nba but you only play nine months it's a 48 minute game and you know exactly who you're going to play in business like you guys know as well as anybody you don't know who the competition is it's 24 by 7 by 365 by forever that you're competing you you know you can think you're going to take a minute off but you can't right and when you get to that point like where you guys are now you you dream about it right you wake up and you just consumed by it all the time does that sound familiar absolutely yeah right where you're just like and the minute somebody says something that you think might even be a smidge in a competition or even challenge you a little bit you just bow up right it's just like come on let you know and you can but you know just like you know if you're working out if you want to get to that next level if you want to get better whatever sport you got to outwork the next guy or the next woman business is 10 times harder who's like who's like some of your competition though like who who's keeping you up at night that you're like nobody yeah jeff or something like what's going on here nah man nah no boxing yeah i didn't do this on purpose no i just forgot i don't care yeah i get accused of wearing mediums but for no good reason like you actually how about bill gates no i mean look those guys have earned everything he's not going to encore for sure no he's not good i'll tell you a story though i'll tell you a story about in vegas back in the day about bill gates oh yeah yeah okay so this is way back this used to be like the biggest trade show in the world was called comdex it was a technology trade show and it was like 125 000 people here and i was i started my company i was like 26 27. and literally right along this and so i was i just thought i was a badass right and so i'm hanging with these girls and this was right when microsoft had gone public so one day no one knows who michael who bill gates is the next day like he's the king of tech and all this money and all this snap and do you have money at this time um i was maybe worth a million dollars okay right and so um i'm buying these girls drinks and doing shots and everything and they're like i gotta go to the bathroom literally i think for real and then they don't come back and i'm like what the [ __ ] and then my buddy can go yo do you know who bill gates is did that fire you up that should have motivated you right it did motivate me right to find to go on to the next such a good story oh yeah but it's true 100 percent true was he like a cool guy was he like a cool guy i didn't know him that well the only time i ever really met bill gates was right after i sold broadcast.com and they invited me to to give a speech at another conference and bill gates was speaking right before me and they told me when i would go on and speak and i'm like the only reason i'm doing this is because bill gates is talking right before me and they're like okay whatever so i get on there and i said you know what i'm excited to tell you i sold my company and finally after all these years bill gates is my opening act oh he got so pissed i've never talked to him since holy [ __ ] to this day not to this day wow not that i've had any reason to talk to him technically it's a thief man yeah but that's online somewhere me saying that so i don't didn't you used to throw a lot of college parties back home yeah not and after college too so um my see sophomore year at indiana um we rented the bloomington national guard armory because i had to pay for my own school right so i always i was part throwing parties or doing whatever and with the bloomington national guard armory held i don't know 1500 people and so this is way back when and so we um rented it and got some friends that all kicking some money rented it and rented school buses and told all the kids at all the dorms that we were going to have free beer and it was 10 bucks or whatever to get in and we just had you know just school bus after school bus going back and forth this is how you were paying for things this is how i was paying for college right and so i did that profiting off the parties oh hell yeah i was profiting off and having a good time and having a good time so like even fast forward to um to dallas and um seven years eight years later um there was this part of dallas that was that's called deep ellum and all they had were these big empty warehouses so my friends and i were looking for a spot to throw a real party where we can make some money so what we would do we found this place that stored chuck e cheese characters and it was just really crazy and insane and we cleaned it all up rented it for 300 bucks a month for a couple months and we started throwing these life in a warehouse parties where we would buy these kegs and we would when a guy would well first we our deal was we would print up business cards there were pink business cards and we would print thousands of them so we hand it to girls and they had the time and the address and the date and all that kind of stuff and we had white business cards where we handed to like 100 dudes that's it 100 business cards and so we knew there'd be thousands of women and it was 20 bucks to get in and the guys got a cup for the beer and the girls got a ten dollar bottle of frizzle net champagne and every single girl that came in got one i mean i don't even know how many hundreds of bottles when it was all said and done we had collected 40 grand and made like 35 000 off of it we're talking about a night a weekend tonight one single night yeah 40 grand yeah holy [ __ ] yeah so we did a couple more times sleeping or [ __ ] yeah profit yeah god we're taking elves [ __ ] we're [ __ ] spending that unfortunately i feel like that's crazy yeah i mean yeah it was yeah we did it right i mean my senior year in college before i was even 21 i opened up i would throw these parties too um at this one bar and i we would throw them and we were doing well and making a little bit of money but then the owner said look um of the bar we were renting it was like look we're gonna get kicked out i'm not making any money would you buy it and one of my buddies who had already graduated has a little bit of money and so evan put up the money for us to put a down payment on this part we redid the whole thing renamed it motley's pub and um literally i took my 2500 in student loans and if we had not had a line to get in the first night there would not have been a second night yeah so started paid back my um got set up and everything and let's see we opened in september september 29th and on february 12th i never forget we got busted and so but for those months we were like the bar on campus but then they shut us down but yeah we so i've been in the bar business the party business the party promotion business what's the key to throwing the best party like what's the number one thing that you like you gotta having women there oh yeah yeah sure yeah mark knows his [ __ ] that's all about it so how do you get the woman there like what's the key like what are you going to have the best part of throwing a party is like if you're the promoter the best part is not the party it's the going out there and promoting about the party yeah right like we would have these little business cards printing out the pink business cards and just going to every bar every club everywhere we could and handing out the invites introducing yourself talking meeting and all that um but then just getting there just have a decent dj and just a good vibe and an angle like for us you know didn't matter if the champagne was cheap if a girl thought she was gonna get a free bottle of champagne that she could walk and no glasses by the way they had to drink out of the bottle there were no glasses and so we would just have this little angle right um and then at the end of the night we had um um champagne bowling where we took the extra the empty kegs and we would line up all the bottle empty bottles of champagne and we would have bowling matches where you would just bowl the empty cage so yeah we did it all did you ever have like an appearance or anybody show up no no no we didn't need to do any of that yeah so as far as as far as like you're you had all these like things making money how did you start to identify this on a business tip how'd you start to identify like what really works and then when you started to grow and get get more and get more like how are you identifying what were your better ideas versus your worst idea it wasn't so much that i came up with ideas it was more like what do i know what am i good at what can i do so i was always good at sales and then i got better and better and better at tech taught myself to write software and so let me take a step back so i went to indiana graduated did some stuff went back to pittsburgh for a little bit but then ended up in dallas living six guys in a three-bedroom apartment got a job working at night as a bartender slash barback more bar back than bartender um but then got a job during the day working for a software company and i didn't really know software at the time but i'm like okay you know i can teach myself this stuff and so i literally just spent time teaching myself how to write software teaching myself about all these different software programs and got better and better and better until i got fired um and then i'm like okay i'm living six guys in a three bedroom apartment sleeping on the floor i got nothing to lose absolutely nothing to lose i mean my car the way i got my car because my first car blew up i'm driving down the side of the road and i was one of these guys where there was always bill collectors chasing me right so i knew the whole drill and so i saw a car just sitting a trans am that looked like it was legit sitting on the side of the road i told my guys stop the car somebody abandoned that car right that trans am door was unlocked which reached in there there literally was the lone papers for the car sitting on the the front seat so we get back i'm like this car's abandoned i'm gonna tell that whoever the bank is that their car is there you pulled the gta you stole the car oh i didn't steal it right i just not still pull a gta what i did was i called the bank and said look somebody's not making the payments on this car and they just abandoned it if you let me take over the payments because my credit was [ __ ] okay yeah so then that's how i got my first car um but then you know i started this company micro solutions after i got fired and you know to your point how do i know right yeah at the beginning i was just learning [ __ ] and just selling people that i can do this right just like with this right you're proving the point that it works for you right and that you can get this these people can get results and that's what i would do right i would say okay here's the business i understand your business let me write the software for you and if it works you pay me and if it doesn't work you don't and then slowly but surely i just added another customer another customer another customer that's how i built it was like the first thing you coded for someone oh it was baby fare it was a company that sold baby cloth babies clothing to walmart and they needed a way to to track everything and to interface with walmart and so i would just stay up all [ __ ] night literally teaching myself how to figure all this out reading stuff just okay whatever it takes because it was do or die and um i wrote that software program they referred me to somebody else who referred me to somewhere else from just somewhere else so do or die but is like did you you knew how much you were going to get paid if you were completing it or that yeah so i told them you know two grand or three grand or five grand or 10 grand whatever it is but if it doesn't work you don't pay me so you you yourself knew how to code i taught myself yeah oh wow do you know how to can you edit it at all can i what edit we're looking for editors editors no i like my video editing skills suck oh right did you ever want to learn that i did at one point but it was like old [ __ ] like now it's you know it's all different you got to be like that's like a new wave no for sure like with all the special effects and everything and ai and all that it's all changing yeah but you know if you guys i got a company synthesia dot io so you can like do your stuff in multiple languages oh wow like youtube channels not subtitle it but like once you train it so if we're sitting here having a conversation and i go through this training process so you you sit in front of the camera and you talk you say the things that they want you to say so they get all the the mouth and and facial just um gestation um then they can then take that and using artificial intelligence make it look like you're speaking as a native speaker so we could all do that right now and it just it's harder with multi people right but if you did it one at a time that's where the technology kind of is right now but let's just say you want to do a promotion in swedish right and you want to say hey that's so awesome yeah so you could just do it it's like 30 bucks a month to sign up to do a basic account and that's the type of stuff but it's amazing we could do like a happy dad commercial in like hungarian peace in chinese 2017 we got to do that yeah we do want to change 27 different languages yeah what's your no it's not an idea it's just this the whole like ai thing the like the future of where all this stuff so like if you guys want to sell your stuff on alibaba right yeah and you want to do it in in native chinese that is so insane why not but learning that all that ai stuff right that's that's just keeping pushing the envelope and because like i've got a good business head and sales at it's like i can mix those things remix them together to make things work because that's a good question yeah does that like industry or like concept like the i the ai like because i've seen things where like you could make someone it almost say something completely yeah that they did no yeah you can do the deep fix right you can make it look like someone you know you put someone's face on someone else haven't seen that that's not concerning to you yeah [ __ ] yeah people could like frame people and [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah but on the internet it's like you could say anything it's a [ __ ] up situation where it's like and it just becomes true and everyone goes they run with you you just gave steve a new idea oh my god i'm mad no but you can tell right you can still tell the the novice can't tell right but if you put an expert there you can tell right yeah protect everybody from steve yeah that's not that's not that's not possible he can't be protected from steve not to completely switch up but are you what do you think about the crypto future of crypto and all that i'm still bullish on crypto i'm bullish obviously you know it's way down right now i mean i took a hit everybody took a hit on youtube um you know so crypto divides into two different categories if you will their store value which is bitcoin right bitcoin i don't care what the maxis says bitcoin's worth what somebody will pay for it you know what the maximum number of bitcoins out there are going to be right 21 million that's it right and that's a good thing but you've got to have people who want to own it and hold it in order for the price to go up and what happened when everybody was buying it price went up it's a store of value it's driven by supply and demand i think it'll replace a lot of gold holders people you know who in the past have owned gold and because no one owns physical gold it's really just a digital transaction anyways and bitcoin's a better version of that than gold yeah um so i think bitcoin is going to be okay but where the price is going to go and when it's just supplying to what about ethereum ethereum i like the best right but why so ethereum is driven by utility right a reason to use it you know bitcoin maxis will tell you that um there's the lightning network and you can do wire you can do transfers money transfers around and that's true right but there's there's like there's a site called crypto fees dot info right and that tells you how much um how much in transaction fees the network is actually generated so you know how busy it is and how whether people are paying gas fees for transaction and you can see on bitcoin it's been going down not up yeah and on ethereum it's the same way but there's millions of dollars worth of transactions that take place there the issue is what drove the price of ethereum up is people were needed to buy for gas fees for nfts yeah right and when everybody was just game over nfts and everybody was going nuts over people were minting them that used gas fees people were buying them that used gas fees people were trading them that used gas fees and so that utility um is what helped pushed ethereum up right once you know the number of nft transactions started to fall then there weren't any natural buyers and then it was the same you know play to earn you know is not going to work the way it's structured right now so you need something that's going to be an application it's like if you think about the early days of the iphone and mobile computing and we really didn't know anything about apps right and it was just like okay what apps am i possibly going to use then all of a sudden instagram's there social media yeah social media bam right and now all of a sudden okay everybody's going to download instagram every kid is going to download snapchat every kid's going to download tiktok now right every kid's going to download even the youtube app right and so that is utility that forces people to use your iphone use the apps or whatever it's a great way of looking at it yeah with ethereum it's the same type of thing there's no app where you say okay we all got to use it yeah that's what it needs and it's not going to be like okay here's instagram for ethereum we're here how do you think that happens then somebody just has a smart idea they created it like more people got to know he's driving right right the whole time right and i'm an investor on openc and it's been great right but you know and then played earn i'm an investor in actually infinity mavis and i think they they messed it up right and they kind of got hurt because they got hacked and so it's not fully fair but you know you've got to have a reason for people to buy the the token whether it's ethereum or another one other than just speculation sure because when the speculators leave it's like dogecoin dogecoin's fun right dogecoin is kind of the starter drug for crypto you know it's cheap easy maybe it is right it's just can't do anything with dogecoin though okay well you can buy stuff go to mavs.com you can buy tickets you can buy whatever coin yeah for sure oh yeah you know when people were buying and trading dogecoin a lot we were making thousands of dollars a week 10 000 a week here and there right so it was real money for us um but at the same time once people start stop speculating on it yeah people lost kind of the vibe for it right and novelty in it yeah well then it's novelty but like i got you know back when it was under a penny my um 12 year but back then he was like nine he was like oh we got to buy dogecoin on robin hood but it was his way to start yeah was that your kid but yeah now he's not supposed to because he wasn't 18 or whatever but i hooked him up yeah he's got to spend 11 or whatever he's into that young yeah and now he set up um he took his pc that he has for school and he uh mines ethereum on it and he's like well i don't think the ethereum 2.0 is going to happen so i'm going to keep him yeah now he's 12. wow he's got to heal it yeah he's not equipped wizard but he he knows where the money is like it's crazy these kids growing up like around crypto now it's totally different like for us it's so new but for them it's like that's just something is that influence from you though or from others and his friends too but me and his friends like me like you know he sees me trying to make money and just being an entrepreneurial so he likes being entrepreneurial yeah um but you know in crypto in general you need a reason to buy the token right and if it's just for speculation it's going to go up and down it's probably going to disappear at some point because 95 of the blockchains are going to go there's just no reason for them to exist but overall you think ethereum bitcoin i think ethereum bitcoin will survive i just don't know what the price is going to be and when right and i do think with ethereum with smart contracts you know like the reason i got excited about ethereum i went in and i just okay what's all this buzz about an nft right and so i went and put in an nft and as as i'm setting it up and getting ready to mint one one little field said royalties right because when you mend an nft and it and you set a royalty percentage 5 10 20 whatever um percent and then it gets resold you get paid a royalty right there's nothing else in media that allows you to do that yeah it's pretty crazy right so you guys make money from you're selling the products you know and i don't know if you do ads or whatever but you know you're you're a platform but if you wanted to sell you know your podcast you know you could but there's just no way really to monetize it after that first sale yeah and for most content there's no way to monetize like you've been in a youtube game forever and if it's downloaded or watched it's shared that's it yeah we actually drop on uh well how long do we drop it six months ago yeah we did our full send meta card so we we dropped an nft too yeah and now soon we're gonna we're working on like a new venture like we have happy dad we're gonna launch like a new one and we're gonna make them partners in the venture which is cool so like with the mavs though like for the mavs we did an nft but the first thing we asked when we we meant it in nft is what's really our value proposition for us and for the consumer for the mavs we wanted to reward people who came to games and we wanted to reward them even more if they came to a game early so what i and what i didn't want to do was be in a position where i sold nfts to somebody and if the price went down they were pissed at the maths why did you want to write the game early sorry just because more vibe more more energy at a game right when you walk into an nba game and you feel the energy yeah right that that's why you go to the games instead of watching television got it and so so we started creating these nfts and you can go to mavscollectables.com but we gave them to for free so if you go to a mavs game get there before the end of the first quarter scan in your ticket boom we'll set it up with live nation ticketmaster where we create a wallet for you and that nft is waiting not long after the game and then people trade them buy them sell them some people sell them from more than the price of the ticket but the point being that i don't want to be in the game where i'm selling nfts to try to make a quick buck because when the price go down like they are now right your brand is impacted right they're thinking yeah i bought it you know and got my happy dad nft but it no go up you could be a hero one day and then there's like zero yeah that's what's why do you think the whole nft thing kind of slowed down why do you think because once there wasn't enough money coming in right i mean it was all speculation there's like 90 speculation 10 percent i just like what i like to own this you know like having a board ape okay there's still some cachet for whether or not you have it as your profile or not but you know at least hey i get to say i have a board ape and so someone will pay some amount for it i go like on open c or mintable or wherever wearable and like i'll look every now and then if there's something that just catches my eye it's just cool and i'll buy it i'm not going to spend thousands of dollars but i'll spend 10 20 50 on an nft if i think it's good and if you want to check them out um i actually created a little company i had somebody come in and code called lazy.com so if you go to lazy.com you can just attach your wallet lazy.com yeah lazy.com great you how did you get that [ __ ] i had it for like forever right i'm like like what so what is what happened to urls what's city.com it's called lazy.com so if you have a wallet from like most of the major blockchains and it has nfts in it you just go to lazy.com you takes two seconds to set up an account you connect your wallets and then you know if you want to see my nfts you go lazycon lazy.com mcuben and i just put it like in my instagram profile or put it at the bottoms of emails that way anybody can look at any of my nfts and they're all set up there you can pin some to the top little profile all that kind of stuff and it's free yeah what are you what are your favorite nfts besides like board apes or like oh and the map besides the mavs just random stuff like like sci-fi looking stuff and some you know just go and check it out like i pinned my favorites up there um i like my mutinate but even more than the high profile ones it's more just the just the ones that i look at and go that's talented that's creative can i switch it up yeah of course what what do you think uh in your entire life what was your biggest biggest success like your number one success family yeah after my family um like in your in your words probably probably going from being broke to selling my first company because you know when you're sleeping on the floor eating mustard and ketchup sandwiches damn going yeah going to bars and buying one beer so you can eat all the [ __ ] on the bar and all the fried mushrooms um you know you don't know and i remember laying in bed hung over actually and just having 15 000 in accounts receivable going oh [ __ ] i you know i might be able to to make some money at this and it might last and then being in business two months going it's been two months three months three months right just like when you guys start this you don't know until you know and so that first one is always the hardest because it's just complete terror but on the flip side you know what was i gonna do you know how much worse could it be it wasn't like i hated my life right i was having fun you know living with my friends but it's no fun when you don't have your own room you don't have your own bathroom you don't have your own closet did you ever concentrate like not doing certain things back then were you like i'm just gonna quit yeah yeah i mean yeah many times it's it's again it wasn't easy you know and you know i get one of my roommates had a job selling burglar bars door-to-door and i mean like none of us had like cushy jobs or we wouldn't have five roommates um but yeah that first one micro solutions was the real deal and then like um and i've told the story before but like we were two years in and we had 84 000 in the bank and we did you know just like a normal business we would have you know we would do our accounts payable and then we put the accounts payable and the envelope back before everything was just automated and then we just give it to you know a girl who did part-time work for us and said you know take it to the post office no big deal right well i get a call from the bank i get a call from the bank and you know texas banker sir we have this young lady that just went through the drive-through and she cashed these checks i'm like what yeah and she like whited out the payee and wrote her name over top of him and i'm like you didn't let her cash him well of course we did we're a bank son what do you think we do 82 of the 84 thousand dollars that we had gone right gone she robbed you robbed us damn renee hardy yeah and can't find her couldn't find her she must have changed her name oh hell yes hell yes because i've sold this story and mentioned her name like on national tv her name's for sure she's [ __ ] watching these smiling probably like you can't get me yeah yeah it's just like but anyways yeah so we had to go to all of our vendors and go look here's what happened um you believe in us we believe in ourselves and we'll figure it out and we did what was the first sale of your company what was the amount um six million dollars what was that like like that first it was did the money just come right away or was it like yeah no no it came right away and um so a million i gave a million to employees i had a guy who i brought in he got almost half and then i had like two million um left after taxes and the first thing but the first thing i did when i closed the deal and we got the checks we went to this italian restaurant and back then it was one of these deals kind of looked like this but it had phones like you could plug into the wall and i was so obliterated right i could barely see barely talk and all my guys are like and i'm not into cars big time and i'm like well what do you want to do i'm like i wonder if american airlines has lifetime passes because for me the idea like my goal always was to retire by the time i was 35 and when this happened i was 30 just turned 30 and um whatever but and i was like okay so they put plugged in one of those phones and my guys are just laughing because i'm slurring and i traveled so much i knew the american airlines phone number was like 1-800-433-6464 something like that i bet you that's still a number and um they plugged it in and i called and i said do you guys sell lifetime passes and they're like yeah let us connect you to the air pass department and i'm like thank you very much they connected me they sent me the paperwork and i spent 125 grand of my 2 million and i got a lifetime pass on american airlines for me and anybody else to go anywhere we want first class for the rest of our lives do you still use that i gave it i gave it to a friend my friend has it now because i have a plane so that's a pretty sweet deal how do your parents feel when you're 30 or 29 you make 6 million bucks they were freaked out because my dad did upholstery on cars right so if you had a rip in a seat like this you'd take it to my dad to fix it you wanted to turn your you know el dorado into a convertible el dorado he would do that [ __ ] um and my mom just did odd jobs did they ever doubt you your parents no did anyone anyone in your circle doubt you yes oh hell yeah you're like what the [ __ ] are you doing you morons you know yeah i mean it sounds like a victory right there yeah oh yeah like even if you talk to him now if you would say oh did you think this was going to happen what they typically say was he was either going to be really rich or really in jail and so that's that's good and what was the next sale after that the next sale well um so i put my money um with goldman sachs and my the guy there was a friend that worked there and so i told him i want you to invest this because i'm 29 turning 30. and i want you to invest this like an old man and so he's like you sure cause you got a lot of time like no cause i don't want to have to work again and i've got to live like a student in order for this work but i'm cool with that um i got my lifetime pass in american airlines and he would just start asking me these questions about technology because you know writing software and doing all this [ __ ] i knew technology really well and so as i would answer these questions i would see these um bankers making these announcements for about the stocks for [ __ ] i was telling them and the stocks would move like this and this and i'm like okay and he's like i told you you got to be doing more and so i started trading stocks based off of what i knew about the technology and crushed it crushed it i was making like 80 90 100 a year and then all of a sudden he connected me with this guy who wanted to start a hedge fund um just using my trades and we did that and that lasted about 90 days before somebody bought it from this is just because where you knew you knew the direction technology was yeah i just knew i knew technology called and i was one of those geeks that like like i said earlier i love reading all this [ __ ] right so you know whether it was then or now i just like to just read the manuals read whatever because when you know this [ __ ] you have an edge because no one does the [ __ ] work yeah what's the what's like the biggest keys to position your company for a sale any tips on that yeah i mean be profitable i mean that you know now particularly with the markets down profits matter more than anything i think one of the things people get caught up in particularly now is raising money is the end-all be-all raising money is not an accomplishment it's an obligation now you got a bank or an investor you know or just like okay what are you going to do for me if you can get by without raising money all the better because you still have complete control so that's number one and number two is people get all caught up on top line like my sales went and i was just as much victim for that as well my first company our sales went from a couple hundred thousand to a million to five to ten to twenty five to thirty and i was like thirty million dollar company yeah yeah yeah but it really came down to profits because you can always find something just to juice your sales but what matters is gross margin dollars because you got to be able to pay the bills and as everybody else that you're competing with keeps on trying to raise money particularly in a market where it's hard to raise money like now if you're the profitable one and everybody else can't exist without raising more money most of them are going to collapse and you're the one left standing if you're the one left standing you're taking their market share i mean you see it with the products you sell they come and they go they come and they go and they think they're going to raise a ton of money but you guys are making money and you get to reinvest and you get to juice it but you got to be making money to have that edge have you ever been taken advantage of by any like business partner yeah yeah because um i'm trusting you know so i've had probably 25 million dollars where i basically probably three different deals maybe four different deals where i've gotten just juiced by some guy um or person and so because it's like okay i trust you i've known you for 20 years those types of things yeah it happens it's a part of it yeah yeah i want to hear your opinion on something this is like way off topic but have you seen you've obviously seen all the brittany griner stuff what's your opinion on that i mean it's awful yeah yeah for her for her family i mean you think they're doing enough to try and get her back i mean it's [ __ ] putin yeah the guy you're negotiating with is the same guy who attacked a [ __ ] company he's blowing up schools and churches and and and apartment buildings you're not negotiating with somebody it's just okay let's just have a better negotiation sure you know [ __ ] dropping bombs on innocent people so if there's any chance we get her back or yeah i think there is right i just don't i don't know what they have to trade was like a marijuana charge or some [ __ ] yeah yeah cbd stuff yeah yeah what did you say the update was they wanted i saw something that they want to like release we have somebody who we have locked up here and they want to do like a trade that we release yeah i mean who knows right because then they just snatch somebody else and trade somebody i don't know that you know that's the hard part of politics i guess yeah i liked your question earlier what do you think about where technology's going and like all the ai or like what it's gonna be scary it's gonna be planning with like the robots yeah link what what's your opinion on like knurling i i think it's real right so if you think of your body as um a big one big math equation with just a bunch of different connections like trillions of connections once you can get discreet enough to be able to read what's coming out of them and once you have enough processing power to be able to process what you're reading anything's possible you know and once robots get real manual dexterity and batteries are strong enough and terminator is like we're there how far out are we from all this 100 years 100 do you think i thought it was sooner than that how do they talk about it like that though if it's so far out no it's no it's that now in terms of like bo yeah i don't like planes and you know um bombers being able to make decisions using ai that's probably 15 years you know drones being able to make you know based on ai make decisions using computer vision what's in front of you racking what's in front of you but you know we've been talking about self-driving cars for 10 years and they're you know oh they're going to be here in 2019. they're going to be here in 2021 2020 and it's so hard to solve those problems if you can't make a car drive tesla's kind of close though i don't think they're close i think they're trying right because they have to yeah but if you can't make you know as smart as elon in as smart as everything they're doing is if you can't make a car just be able to drive safely you're not going to be able to create a droid that acts human or anything close yeah that's a good point would you ever would you ever get a neurolink if it came out i don't know yeah i don't know would i consider it yeah would i dig into it just to learn about it yeah for sure yeah because what if i feel like that'd be scary scary especially like if you're like 110 years old right and then you know then you know you can [ __ ] you know almost be dead and look like that and you know sorry i was sitting in the bathroom we asked them if you could get a nerf link yeah also do you think elon musk is an alien no no no okay but you know i know elon like a tiny bit tiny bit and how come you guys are never boys what's that you think you'd be boys maybe yeah that's a different he's a different dude man he's a different dude yeah so he's a robot then no no i'd be more interesting if he was but um he had he had another kid right this is before the last three or whatever it was and i'm like dude congratulations how many are you going to have he goes sends me a text back mars needs people no way that's what he does yeah did you laugh at that [ __ ] yeah he gave him [ __ ] but he doesn't reply i don't think he likes me so we're talking about the knurling stuff the future so i'm curious about you um how old are you 63. you don't look like you look good man so yeah i'm genuinely curious do you trying to train him no oh okay my phone unless you need a trainer i mean i'm sure you've got tons of dallas go ahead anyways um do you take obviously you take your health seriously yeah do you do anything that's like maybe kind of left field as far as medicine wise like no i'm more i'm more of a um i'm more of a food as medicine type guy okay so i use my fitness pal and i track pretty much everything that i eat not not exactly but you know when i was y'all's age you can eat anything drink anything right and maybe you know you you how old do you think we are i don't mean 40 21 no no me no no no no how do you think he is he looks a little younger than he probably is right i'm cool with that yeah probably 30 32 33. literally 38. okay okay fine sure how old are you 33. okay sorry anyways it's not important 27 27 what size is that how do you 28. 20. okay someone's that far super small because when somebody asks you a little bit older than you yeah no i like that that's a good tactic yeah for us um but yeah so i'm a food is um medicine guy but you know when you're younger your body's just as adaptive and you're going to deal with abuse you give it but as you get older you start noticing every little thing like absolutely you know if if i eat too much gluten even though i'm not like gluten intolerant like i i wish some right so i've got a man's dab like my iron the ferritin i get my blood tested every three to four months right because i want to know what my base levels are right and so if i don't eat enough iron like literally i'll have um orange juice and rice krispies because rice krispies are fortified with iron and vitamin c from orange juice makes you absorb the iron which helps my ferritin levels right there's got to be a better way to get that though i mean but if i just do so it's a deadly combo though no it's great though no it's great because the rice krispies are only 140 calories in the little thing and that gives me 100 almost 100 of my iron and the simply orange is all my vitamin c that i need and it's 110 calories and so because i've got the iron supplements but your body doesn't absorb supplements as well as it does food and because it's got to break them down differently and so by combining the two i can feel the difference and so you know i'll have that i have to take synthroid for um hypothyroidism that's no big deal um oh you know just just try to be balanced and get all my nutrients when did you start to be more focused on that stuff as you got older yeah as i got older yeah because i would abuse the [ __ ] i understand how do you delegate all your time with everything you have going on yeah that's the mavs you've got all these business events i don't i don't do meetings i don't do phone calls oh really no you got to hit me up via email just like um shahidi got a hold of me right so you do emails all day you know what you're doing yeah i'll get a thousand emails a day so you never forget about your number or how do you do that yeah never wait how do you get a phone call with mark even then how do you don't never unless you write me a big ass check then i'll take your call really yeah that's dope this is a this is dope then this is like yeah does that email take like a long time no it takes less time yeah it takes less you're just like right because i can you know because people will send me whatever you know how you can just set your preview and your email and everything i'll read that if there's nothing there that's of interest boom don't you even go like high comma sentence thanks yeah sometimes i do sentence no it'll be like delete if it's [ __ ] but if it's somebody i gotta respond to her i know i love it then i'll reply and i've got you know like in gmail you can set like um like i just type in atb which turns into a all the best comma nice and then a little m underneath it so it's just bam bam bam bam what's your biggest focus right now out of everything you got going on yes um cosplus drugs yeah yeah because that's the world changer because when you get to just change people's lives like that yeah you gotta talk are people like hitting you up like yo this is like the next big thing like thank you for the time all day every day yeah that's good yeah it's really cool nice we got to check that out yeah cosplusdrugs.com if you take any medications whatsoever go in the game right now yeah for sure uh can we talk a little mva sure oh yeah i mean lots going on i gotta ask you like with the nets it's like the net situation right now remember i can't really talk about individual players you can't no because that's the um nba violation okay going towards kd or something yeah well i mean you can't talk at all about kd no can't individual players from other teams what about let's call it tampering i could talk about all day long yeah what's your guys relationship like get along great yeah i mean he's great too i mean he's just a good good guy 23 just chills got a girlfriend um likes to hang um likes to play video games watch basketball you know he's got beef with little wayne now it's over that's why that's over that was cool all these high schools i don't know if you've seen like mikey right yeah mikey these guys are like 16 17 they're making six figures in the high school age yeah over time a little bit how bad is that for them yeah i'm not a fan i mean because a lot of the kids you know there's a difference between potentially being an nba player and being good for instagram right so if you're like good for reals or instagram or whatever that's one thing right you know you can be a walking human highlight film that doesn't necessarily make you a good basketball player and so a lot of these kids are being geared towards how do i get more followers and how do i get paid that way as opposed to how do i how how do i become the best basketball player and i think that's part of the corruption that's happening not necessarily that overtime elite is the only one doing it or that they're even trying to corrupt kids right but like if you're a kid um and you're 16 and you're taking their money you ain't going to college to play basketball yeah that's a lot to give up if you're not good enough for the nba you think overtime elites are negative i'm not as big a fan as some people are well over time lee just to get it right they pay they pay a kid 100k a year to play at their school right or what the their league high school yeah in high school what the f yeah in high school not out of high school in high school but the problem is like you can't stay there for the next 20 years right but how if you're a kid right and your your family's not that well off in school like i don't blame her for doing it right but yeah remember now with nil if you can ball right even in high school you can get paid yeah and if you go to college yeah it's crazy how it's changing like that that's why that's why i think of luca because you have a guy overseas who didn't have all those distractions all that [ __ ] and they say focus on just basketball yep yeah it's totally different than it was where do you rank them among the best players right now top one or two really yeah he's a beast he's so good and he's adding stuff to his game this summer i mean he's going to come back even better thank you yeah he's amazing man yeah no luke is one of a kind what's your uh what's your thoughts on all the california people moving to texas come on i don't care just come to texas potential season ticket holders yeah is that helping has that helped math business yeah for sure i mean not just from california but the fact that so many people are coming to dallas yeah you know we're dallas is like top three in destination cities now now the good news is we sell tickets the bad news is like you know the roof for the lakers or the clippers or whoever whatever city they came from but that's okay we got to stay in texas long enough then they'll start you know no i'm not worried about that at all yeah for sure you're trying to get away from california for sure yeah taxes and everything i'm fine with that all right what do you think about the the liv have you seen all that i know you're not a golfer oh yeah yeah the live stuff yeah i thought you're gonna ask me where it was like to go to live no no no i know you've been there though um we could talk about living like do you think that gets crazy that's probably more interesting like the saudis just come in the price for everything yeah right here's the way i look at it from a golfer's perspective you know you bust your ass and you there's complete uncertainty you don't know how much you're gonna make maybe you have some sponsors maybe you're doing some deals and that's great you're making some money but you have a limited lifespan in in your golf career yeah and if you're apolitical you're not really into politics one way or the other someone offers you 30 40 50 million dollars your family is more important than what the media is going to say about you right you think that scares any other leagues that this is happening like that i don't know that it scares other leagues um but it makes us pay attention yes for sure because you know who knows what for what other sport or what other you know country whatever it may be that is going to come in and try to buy recognition right it's [ __ ] nuts what was your favorite shark tank investment ever probably get that a lot but um it was curious about this yeah um it was a company called cycloramic and it was an interesting story because when um they came in it was when the iphone 5 was happening and the iphone 5 the bottom of it was flat but then the iphone changed so you couldn't so you couldn't stand it up so they had to pivot and they started doing something called computer vision which is you know it kind of computers and video and ai all combined and we got them into the automotive industry and fast forward three years later maybe carvana bought them for a lot of money and so that was one of my favorites are you up all time on shark tank investments no not am i up like up financially yeah oh no i've gotten beat really a couple what was your biggest loss my biggest loss was probably a million dollars um there was this company that had um oh what the hell was it called but you would blow into it and it did alcohol detection and it was a great idea yeah actually a decent product but like the guy charles um i look at his instagram and he'd be in bora bora and then i'd look at his guys two weeks later and he'd be in vegas partying you know then be on nectar island with richard branson and i i texted him like what the [ __ ] are you doing you're supposed to be working oh no i'm networking next thing you know all the money's gone and the company oh no but and then the next thing i mean it's just like yeah so that was my biggest beating do you blow up on these guys or you just say [ __ ] there's no point yeah there's no point they ain't gonna change any maybe he was testing the product though what's that he's probably testing the products yeah yeah getting wasted and making sure it worked it's going right yeah he just yeah it was not cool at all do you ever worry about since shark tank's a part of disney like how you have to be so like pc i mean they're a little bit like that like so shark tank what you see on air the 10 or 12 or 14 minutes gets cut down from like 30 minutes to 90 minutes depending on the deal and so we know it gets edited but a lot of times the the people coming in pitching they don't know how edited is it it is and so i'll curse and i'll you know i'll i'll be like what the [ __ ] are you trying to do like that and you see everybody going like this but um they won't let us curse but they're pretty open with us but there's there's dumb [ __ ] too that disney makes us do like you can't have a url on any product you can't they won't let us say the url and it's been like that since the beginning i'm like what the [ __ ] is this why can't you say you know cosplusdrugs.com yeah it's still not a good explanation but you know you can only like beat your head against the wall so many times before he was like like at what point is it like it's too much promo i don't get it it's already the whole thing is i don't know i can't even explain it it makes no sense to me whatsoever yeah it doesn't make any sense how much of that is like making money or just trying to like help people out for me yeah i did 99.99 just to because it teaches kids about the power of entrepreneurship and that the american dream is alive and well and you can be you know a 14 year old in some small town in iowa and come up with an idea in your garage and the next thing you know you're standing on the carpet and shark tank you're firing away yeah you know and anything's possible and if you can you know just like cost plus drugs can change the drug industry if i can you know inspire um entrepreneurs young entrepreneurs to come out and do something like y'all you know are young enough that 10 years ago you know now we we're getting ready to shoot season 14 next week you know you all were just kids when this [ __ ] started to happen and so you know if we can inspire people like y'all to go out there and just start companies that's huge you give a lot back i saw a clip of you getting fined uh i think it was like 15 minutes oh yeah yeah yeah for the [ __ ] clip and then you were and then you're like if i do it again you're like [ __ ] it with that he he was getting fine why'd you get so no i've played in a league of legends tournament right and i'm awesome i'm awful that's [ __ ] good do you still play league oh um yeah we had to right and it was in the tournament it was like a celebrity deal where i was like the one newbie right and so um and we ended up losing and i thought but anyways um and i was cursing while we were doing it and so there were it was to raise money for charity and so the hosts that came brought me on stage and they're like you're being fine um because you cursed and you're being fined fifteen thousand dollars and she has the mic there what do you think about that and so she hands me the mic and i go well does that mean if i curse again i get fined again she goes yes i go [ __ ] it he's going to kids though he was going to kids yeah he was going to smile yeah very excited so shark tank find you no where's the shark tank this is the league of legends oh [ __ ] yeah but it won't return can you talk about it or not um it was 15 grand times two 30 grand yeah so it was worth it yeah it was worth it yeah yeah you play league yeah so [ __ ] love it it's hard so hard you played at all anymore now do you play any video games no not really i played you know i'll play um i mean i played fortnite for a while and then um what's the one when they rolled off the um it just came back they just made it free fall guys fall guys yeah yeah i played some of that i love this guy but it's like because i got a 12 year old son yeah i'm a big nerd sorry i love video games no i mean yeah damn dude are you still a pens fan hockey anything pittsburgh i'm a fan yeah doing the parts you like crosby yeah i said yeah for sure yeah and malcolm yep do you have anything brad you want to pitch anything real quick oh yeah for the shark fish yeah okay like baby shirts for ripped guys yeah i was thinking like i was thinking like seriously you got to change it to go to dinner jacob's [ __ ] shirt man he has my shirt on i spilled coffee on it i didn't want to come in here with coffee stain and talk to [ __ ] marquis i was embarrassed man so i'm wearing anything you want to pitch are you good i think i just think like we should i think you know think about this we should go on shark tank with something that'd be amazing you should imagine all the boys right yeah sure we're trying to be in shape if everyone's trying to get in shape a lot of guys are trying to look be in shape right yep what if we just was like we created a clothing brand company where every every site was just one size down so you looked bigger you see what i'm saying so large as a medium i think just like because you could just buy a smaller shirt i'm out yeah but like but you want to still feel big so you buy now you want to buy a medium it's like right no but you want more to be fitted like you just a little little padding here because that's no those aren't real so we're a little bit fitted right because you know because the problem like when you're getting this shape you still got that little pudge right there right and you want to squeeze it in yeah exactly yeah standing would you buy a few of those i feel like no i'm good like the padded chest no i think we're about to do a happy dad partnership with the clippers arena but yeah how do we do something with the mavs just email me and i'll connect you to the right people well that's late we're doing really good in texas i think that's our biggest state so that's cool texas is amazing shout out texas i [ __ ] what kind of electrolytes you guys put in they're good check them out some good macros right brad yeah do you drink it all or no yeah i'll drink for sure yeah what's your drink of choice i was asking i was actually like either bud light or cheetos and soda okay so curious have you ever shot gun before yeah you're gonna try and make him shotgun no i'm not gonna forget i gotta do yeah what the hell me too no i'm not going through yeah of me um chugging against post malone so i've got um post my same type of conversation right do you drink do you party we just had them on too too yeah two years ago and so um he was in atlanta for nba all-star was it or whatever no super bowl maybe and i was partying with him um after one of his concerts and he has all these people there and he's just pounding right and chugging against all these people and he's like okay come on let's see what you got i can chuck bam just like gone gone you defeat him wait did you beat him [ __ ] yeah what was his reaction he was like holy [ __ ] yeah i am gotta get cable bro that's dope oh yeah i think this is awesome bro really appreciate it thank you bro you're [ __ ] awesome mark cuban appreciate it guys thank you bro let's go that was awesome that was dope that's right great job what an opportunity we get to sit down with some [ __ ] legends bro that's the best thing about the park get to sit down and learn ideas you could buy a small shirt okay so the shirt thing's not gone it's not gonna work i can't bring it to the show you can bring it but i'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen okay so you're not taking that one thanks appreciate it thanks guys yeah you're awesome appreciate it all right boys i hope you enjoyed that pod i found cuban to be an absolute [ __ ] beauty that guy was amazing to sit down from and just learn from it's honestly a blessing to be able to sit down with those guys at the end of every podcast though we're gonna be giving away five thousand dollars all you gotta do every single week is drop a thumbs up and then dm me proof to my instagram kyle send a screenshot or take a picture of your computer whatever the [ __ ] works uh some proof that you like the video last week we did this and i found a winner right here bang she sent proof thumbs up so she's gonna win five thousand dollars shout out to raul rivera guy doesn't even have a [ __ ] post and he's winning 5k so like the video every week and see you guys next week [Music] you

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Published: Thu Jul 14 2022