March 2020 Q&A

thank you for tuning in to the number seven range this is the March QA on Jarno however it was supposed to be the February QA but frankly desert brutality got the best of me and here we are in March so these questions are all submitted by a really generous patreon supporter so thank you apologize for missing a month that happens and this is in the way so I'm just gonna do this guys and we'll continue to do that you've got all the questions for us and actually these were originally I said it was only gonna be me because we're February but happened to get you so let's make it alright a twofer okay Tim wants to know you mentioned some additions to some new additions to the brutality matches hmm what areas areas are those going to be held in I can speak yeah you can words are hard oh there's actually two things going on right now so well besides finish brutality which is in august in helsinki finland currently working on a big event in november in palma idaho okay as well as one that is not yet confirmed but potential so keep your eyes peeled for West Virginia so and that'll be before November so in that regard I will let you know as we know more and I will go ahead and tap this if you are a member of patreon support for in range specifically the two gun army you will get early registration to all these events in some instances discounts so if it's something you really really want that would be a good place to be desert brutality sold out how much before it even got out of patreon well before it got out of like eighty percent so by the way you don't have to be a patreon supporter to get into a brutality match however because they're limited seats and we have really great people that support us that want to shoot these matches they tend to fall quick so when it went to patreon first the Scout and armored was full in like a week I think and then when we and classic and classic and retro and a cave filled most was not full there was five or six seats left when I'm a public so virtually everyone who got into it was on page pretty much and that's not intended to be something that's this clues for exclusionary but the reality is you obviously the supporters should get first stab in my opinion and it's become kind of a neat cultural thing because the people that support the work land up in the people gathering together to shoot the match and it it is a lot of fun Bryce says what information can you give me on the brutality match in Parma Idaho coming in November all right well I'll give you this this is I don't the exact dates I want to put out there yet but this is kind of surprised and it's only we're only talking about it on the discord right now which by the way is the private server for people to talk about from in range but we just kind of put this out there it's different divisions and all the other battalion edges and this will actually be a 3-gun event but it's not a shotgun okay it's a 3-gun event that is either classic which is world war two cold war which goes between 1947 and 1991 then we also have partisan and armoured plus p which is supposed to be in the year 2030 but all the divisions besides partisan are going to be three gun in that it will be rifle pistol and DMR meat Hardison will have rifle and pistol only and their rifle will be both their DMR and the rifle which makes partisan quite hard would yeah so but yeah so this is gonna be a 3-gun event not saying all our future events will be three guns events cuz they won't alter them will be two gun this one specifically designed are designed around the concept of World War three cool alright so check out the discord for more details Joe says what did you see a shot show that you found to be either impressive or innovative why don't you start with that one biggest thing that that stuck with me was the logo hey Liam yeah it's hard to not go with that one it's it's unfortunate that it's such an expensive gun although I think I understand why it is but it it's one of those things that is fundamentally substantially different from most everything else out there everything else out there but it's certainly a very creative and innovative assembly of mechanical bits and it seems to actually really it does in fact shoot very flat which was exhibited in the video when we got to shoot it I mean we had 10 rounds and it was like unbelievably easy to hit targets with it yeah as you've said there's nothing new Under the Sun it's like an aggregate of the best components from different designs brought into one place I mean they did some different things don't get me wrong but it's still it is it would be hard for me to not give that answer that's probably my number one - I have two more that stand out for me though one of them I'm wearing and this was attended this is the control I wear electro it's essentially a electro capable your cyborg shooting list yeah the cyberpunk ones which I did a video on currently they're in you can't maybe see this on the camera they're currently in sunglass mode touch of a button they go glass they go clear and you can actually suddenly be automatic when you believe in out of ambient light they'll actually go to smoke versus clear and they got some other stuff going which we're gonna talk about later this was one of the ones I thought was really interesting a lot of people on the channel were like they've done that with welding glasses forever I'm like yeah welding things that are the size of your head like a helmet they have wholistically radiation glasses they have it so this is cool as heck I love it really neat on board with that the other one which you're gonna see videos on the channel about was the me pro light foresight optic not gonna talk more about it here but those three things were the standouts for me let's see Melvin says you did a segment where you ran a match using a cap and ball 1862 occult police revolver you demonstrated how the hammer can be set in between two chambers so it can be safely carried well fully loaded why wasn't this done by Colt with the Single Action Army it seems like they could use a recess in the cylinder for the firing pin to reside I think it's a great question do you have a thought on this because I have my own thought my thought is half [ __ ] was considered an effective impractical safety yeah well actually the safety [ __ ] right not half car cuz there's three [ __ ] in a hole right so there was a safety [ __ ] at half [ __ ] and then full [ __ ] half [ __ ] is when you load and unload yeah I'm not trying to correct him for singling it would be safety [ __ ] but I think that's right I think that's exactly the idea was that they were gonna safety [ __ ] it and that was your way to carry six rounds but it turned out safety [ __ ] wasn't a reliable or safe way to carry the gun and our attitudes have changed a little bit as to safe methods of carry today now you recently did some videos now this has nothing to do with Single Action Army but regarding the the beginnings and the origins of the 1911 yeah and it's safeties holy crap but wasn't that a safety lack thereof wasn't that safety cop thing sort of even in that I mean they were thinking that same thing right it was you put it a half cocking it safe mmm or you put the hammer all the way down once you get past the site safety 1900 because the firing pin is shorter than the breech block and it has a retaining spring if you just gently lower the hammer onto the firing pin even hitting the hammer won't cause the gun to fire the hook because that the firing pin is not resting against the primer right it makes still recessed sure and so we have half [ __ ] was considered a an acceptable option we also see that with the t-33 Tokarev so so I think I think that's the answer I think the idea was that just putting it on safety [ __ ] was sufficient but there were there are a number of incidences including one with wire himself where a gun fell out of a holster hit the ground it went off so even on safety [ __ ] so yeah it's not a good idea in 50 years people would be maybe be like why didn't that Glock have a manual safety the answer is because they considered you know a striker-fired Glock style pistol with a trigger safety to be a perfectly acceptable method of carry the N with it's fair John says desert brutality was a fantastic experience what was your favorite moment from this year's match that's a hard question to answer because there was a lot of great moments the moment when the timer went off at the when I part out and was done with the spinner that was your favorite part of gasps come on that's not your favorite part that might've been your favorite relief of the man yeah favorite part of match I really got a kick out of the the police shield mm-hmm the five popper shots with the pistol because I was really worried about how long that would take me to be able to complete if I even could and I ended up going one for one of those yeah you freaking rocked you know was awesome you rocked that um two things come to mind for me one was that even though the spinner was on it the trench stage was really fun running between trench to the trench and engaging targets in trenches is pretty exhilarating especially with a lever gun that was really neat the other thing which has nothing to do with the match but the fact that Gary from mmod Outfitters brought out his resurrected stg44 that was very good and gave a lot of us a lot of access to that gun as well as some videos which are on the channel including just having some fun runs in the trench with it yeah boy that's hard pressed and I have more fun to that so I liked a lot of the people that came out we had a bunch of people in costume and a couple of really good costumes there are actually two awards for best costumes this cosplay is actually we called it but why not and one of them was a guy who dressed up like heat take your pick of characters from heat yep and one guy who was at Chernobyl exclusion zone soldier he even had the freakin egg protector armor he really did a good job at that he looked like he was right out of there yeah so yeah I agree that was fun um frankly these brutality matches every time we do one I'm like this egg these aren't gonna get more fun they just can't and then they do like they really do it was like the best one was the last one yeah in my opinion so you have a very tame and curious little rabbit yeah we got a little rowdy burger I'm just like five feet away now hey there what's up and continues to get closer well maybe maybe she'll show up on camera see Sebastian says Carl in an older QA you said you wanted to try a bigger caliber like six five Creedmoor for the what would stoner do as a DMR but couldn't because there weren't any good polymer lowers now that you have the opportunity to practically design your own lowers will you revisit this idea I think we should both talk to this but I think there's a really big significant misunderstanding of what that means yeah the answer is no spoiler right it is but but this this I don't this is something we haven't talked about and I think we will with future videos hopefully the process to which designing the mold that will ultimately be the mold that will be used to make the polymer lowers you make that mold you don't make that's a huge endeavor so that is like six months and a couple hundred thousand dollars and that's that's and that mold of course incorporates the the standard magwell which is going to be for a standard for a physics magazine yeah once that mold is made it cannot change like that's it it's done if you want a different mold like say a 308 sized polymer you know hey arms marked three style lower okay invest another six months because you're gonna have to re-engineer that thing for all sorts of different stuff it's not just a matter of scaling it up no just like the AR was not just a matter of you know multiplying the ar-10 by 0.8 or whatever know it you have to re-engineer a substantial amount of the design yeah and then invest find another couple hundred thousand dollars to invest and in someone willing to put that money up to make a 308 lower mm-hmm there's I think it's a lot harder to market the idea of a a very lightweight 308 as opposed to a lightweight five five six because your lightweight 308 is already gonna be a couple pounds heavier than your five five six because all the parts are bigger and if and and not just three weight the six five claymores on this as well that's a great cartridge but if you were to give me if I had to make only one gun I would stick with the enemy dia cartridge not something that was larger you soak some time and that makes sense a lot of the advantages a lot of the characteristics of the what would stoner do are really focused around the role of a carbine not a DMR yep that isn't to say that a polymer lower if scaled version of that wouldn't be something that's interesting now if we had one totally use it but I don't think it's you don't get as much benefit from it relatively speaking as you do in a five five six carbine what the reason I think the question is worth having is I think people underestimate what it takes to get the mold for example just to even make the first one yeah Neff chinko says in general was the m1 garand a significantly better weapon than the m1 carbine to which I would reply is the Honda Accord a substantially better vehicle than the f250 I'm gonna go ahead and say yes because I have a bias against the m1 carbine I'm gonna go ahead and say you cannot make a that that's not a question that can be answered well okay well it is for me and only one reason my read my rationale behind that isn't yes they absolutely have different applicable roles the m1 carbine was designed to replace the 1911 and to purport low you know something better than a pistol to the mortar crews and stuff like that it landed up getting used to the larger scope than just that I just have had such a bad experience with him when carbines reliability that it doesn't matter if it is handy and light and easy to carry if they're unreliable it's a worse weapon I will say that if I was a mortar man or a driver or a medic the m1 carbine would absolutely be a substantially better done than the m1 garand and you're probably not gonna have to use it hopefully we're gonna carry it a lot yeah and the malfunctions that it does have are not that difficult to clear her name crack the handle good to go generally speak and in a world war two context your cycle your magazines every couple of weeks just get some new mags and they're all brand new they're not seventy-five years old to begin with so that said I don't think you can make that judgment because there is such a difference in the intended role of the guns I agree with that hence my Accord vs. a 50/50 yeah I know I get this this is like saying is the tiger better than the p-51 Mustang you're like it depends well wants a tank and what's plain right I mean all right I think I just wish I had I wish I could use a number one that works I just I you need a same cristobal carbine or a beretta 57 okay they're the little lightweight carbines select-fire garments they made in 30 carbine oh yeah yeah I slavery but they use proper magazines that are not intended to be disposable yeah fair mark says what sunglasses are you wearing in the five five six MDR video are they ballistic rated for high protection oh yeah I wore those because of the cyberpunk theme of that because of what that match was those are the oakley's Mad Men and I think oh please are sort of politically rated but I don't know that they're specifically designed to be that so I wouldn't you know what do as I say not as I do I don't think you should wear them as shooting glasses but they are the only Mad Men okay Brendan says in the u.s. gun issues are pretty heavily divided on party lines has this been the case in other countries that you have visited this is a much better question for you than me my answer is not really most of the other countries I've been in basically both parties or all parties because not all countries have as much of a solidly two-party system as as the US does generally all the parties are not fond of guns so it's just everyone's against yeah to varying degrees now there are some countries like I think Switzerland like the Czech Republic mmm that are less so where they have political groups that are actually vocal in support of gun rights but that's relatively uncommon usually for gun owners outside the US it's a matter of like finding who is willing to be less opportunistically anti-gun arrows gonna say there I'm like I think no one's gonna be pro-gun whose just gonna leave us right yeah and this isn't this channel doesn't deal with these topics very much I was just gonna say it's like the general perception is that we have one that's Pro and one that's anti but I think if you really look at the track record it's a pretty grey area yes so if and if you look at the actual people involved instead of necessarily the politicians yes I don't think gun rights in the United States are a black and white two-party issue oh they absolutely are not I know a lot of people on the spectrum across the political spectrum that are at pro gun rights and I know people across the political spectrum that are against gun rights yeah it really isn't a party thing I wish we would get away from that concept yeah Sean says if you were a civil war soldier and had the ability to choose your own sidearm would you take a pin fire rimfire over a copper ball no would you so when I first read this I thought he was asking which would you take pin fire or rim fire but he's actually asking cap and ball versus either of those early correct I mean so rim fire you're dealing with 22 short right back in Civil War no there was others um the more was a 32 rimfire 44 Henry was a rimfire but that was only in a car B it was only in a carbine until later so you don't see that as missiles you don't see that a pistol after Civil War okay cuz I can think of the revolvers that were in there are 44 mm fire fire revolvers but I can't think of the possible okay yeah or pin fire there's a lot of pin fire stuff coming out of Belgium isn't all that stuff super diminutive power wise though these sort cap and ball revolvers for the most part but comparatively like yes I mean pin fires and rim Fire's versus okay if you take a 44 cap-and-ball by modern standards it is no power or after Palace right it is sufficient right but it is not huge that's what 38 special kinda but then you compare it to the most powerful pin fires and rimfires I think there's still quite a bit ahead now pin fires had low velocity because they had relatively short cartridges right but they got big I mean in carbines you got up to 15 millimeter pin fires that's true and in handguns it was kind of odd numbers you got yeah five seven nine nine millimeter being the biggest calm but then there were 11 millimeter pin fires you're also not gonna have the problem of like cap jams and all that kind of stuff yeah I think you know I'd really love to have the chance to like actually shoot a more so the more is a it's a seven-shot 32 caliber rimfire revolver uh uh and the whole front axis of the gun tilts ok so it's not quite a loading it's sort of a loading gate gun but yeah I would love to try shooting one of those because I'm tempted to say that seems like a really good system they're handy the size is good 7 shots is nice the calibers sufficient by civil war standards but I've never actually shot one so maybe they're they're terrible for some reason well the other thing that can be added to this and I talked about it in the 62 video but I will talk about it again on the channel the the cap jam thing is a thing but when you do things right it's not as big of a thing as good think it is right it can't be mostly mitigated and paper cartridges well they do take up a lot of the slack between our traditional style you know our vision of you have a powder flask and you have to if people were doing that with the fed it with the with the Paterson was it Paterson the Paterson and the Walker but then once we got paper cartridges I'm gonna go ahead and stick with Gavin ball on this one I think I drank Oh rimfire okay yeah Chetty says Carl your collection of guns seems to err more on the side of before fun is that correct well you asked that to me specifically but I think we should both answer this one we should like I think that once you get to the point of quote unquote collection of guns it better gears words fun because what are you doing like really if you're gonna fight with them how many arms do you have right that's my point so like let's not use them that's not use the need word but there's no other real good word so if you're a person that feels like you should need to have firearms mm you don't need a collection of guns you probably should have a rifle I would've met the bright advise an air 15 a good pistol and maybe a shotgun if you're talking about just practical use yeah and do you need more than that at that point and is that a collection I would argue it is not it's kind of like if if you really like cars I have a very practical set of cars I have a car I can't drive more than one at a time yep but if I was really particularly into cars I could totally see myself having a dozen cars yeah cuz they're cool and everyone is something that has a specific use and maybe I don't even drive it but it's cool like I know guys who have tank collections and that doesn't mean they're out driving tanks often right so I ever perhaps I guess when I hear their word collection if it's not geared to fun I'm wondering what you're doing well I think there are a couple it could be geared to competition which ought to be fun that's vagin some yep sometimes they're not fun if you're into competition and it's not fun you're doing it wrong literally read like Fagin's got like the box of rapiers and they're all rapiers right all oh wow you've got fifty rapers but this handle works better at this match and this handle works better at that match and that's a real thing yeah so there's an example yeah you've got recreational shooting sure where you can just pile it on because there's all sorts of stuff that's fun to shoot even if it's very similar to something else hmm you've got collecting that's certainly where where my focus is isn't that all fun though that's still fun for you it's fun but I see this fun in a different way like I enjoy it I take pleasure in it but it's not the same as saying I'm out actually shooting but it still flavors of fun yeah okay that's my point when I hear collection to me if it's not for fun I so I think what you're reading into this is like if you are seriously invested in a thing you ought to be getting some personal satisfaction or enjoyment out of it why are you heavily invested in that thing right and then if you're not then you don't need more than a good rifle a good shotgun and a good pistol okay and need is not the right word but you know what I mean by that like in terms of practical application yeah and the light machine gun that's ibly an anti-tank weapon that still goes what's fun well that's why I need that oh and an RPG yeah why I wish they would not regulate Molotov cocktails because I'd be heck oh heck up a lot of fun then you know what I just saw yeah on the Facebook's oh I'm Canon guys figuring out they're essentially turning them into say bows yeah they're putting the Molotov cocktail in a can in avid cut up soda can yeah it's freaking brilliant yeah and they're doing it all out of a registered machine which Trump's all of the other half a dozen nations so it doesn't have to be a red to make thing at least what they're saying is it doesn't have to be registered as a destructive device we're a short-barreled rifle if it's a machine gun it covers those things in the street we'll find a means for its own purpose the can cannon has a potential app a potentially practical application it would have thought all right so we're done what does your collection air towards historical fun historic moment it's civil more per mile yeah that's my thing right now that's like I'm into the civil rules yeah but to me that's fun oh you know what it's weird it's like what are they what's the term for it experimental archaeology living history archaeology I find that to be the fun so like certainly it's fun to bring out an AR and do some whiz-bang stuff and have awesome times it's kind of more fun to bring out a burn site carbine see what happens like for me but I know that that's not the average so all right bunny says I love the channel especially the QAS in older videos Carl had said he shoots two of the more recently iam said stick to wolf gold fight no actually says have you experienced problems with stuck cases when shooting steel ammo and is it okay to go from steel to brass if I clean the chamber out first when did you say you swish the wolf cold don't know um I have but that's primarily it's not because of reliability is because of accuracy ya know that's when we started doing some matches where you had to have reasonably precise shots yeah you did and the Tula just didn't quite cut it it doesn't um and it leaves your fingers all disgustingly gnarly incoming crap sometimes it smells like cat pee yeah so I bumped mine up to wolf gold for the accuracy um there is no issue going back and forth between steel and brass case I have never had steel case in a gun that's working right I've never had steel case be a problem that's said to be honest I haven't been using tool all that much lately cuz wolf gold is close yeah and it's a little better so frankly I think I'm gonna agree with hilma's at this point Thomas says can you think of any reason why the US military switched back to full auto for their m fours yeah that's easy absolutely because three we're on versus garbage it's neither fish nor fowl Italy you spew it from your mouth it's the worst possible option ya know it's like what's that cool from the Bible is neither hot nor cold but lukewarm so I spew it from my mouth I'll take your word for it jesus said this okay um at any rate and that was something that's neither neither good nor bad it's just something in the middle that's worse I would rather have semi-auto than three round bursts absolutely and if you offered me like you can have this m4 that safe semi three round or this ar-15 that's safe semi oh the station we'll take the same set because the three round bursts met ratcheting mechanism is harms the general trigger pull of the gun in general yeah the three round burst is unreliable you don't always get three sometimes you get two most systems are that's not a problem I'm talking about the AR m16 that was issue but also three round bursts let's you if you need full auto which by the way you generally don't but when you need full auto by the time you have used all three of your rounds and a three round burst you know what you haven't done nothing back on your target full autos this thing where you pull the trigger an you kind of like lose and then come back and then you've got this thing and you riding please for the burst I have found three round bursts to never be sufficiently enough time to do that right what happens is the first two rounds hit the target two third ones over there and with a full auto you kind of go like that and then you're on it or you just fire to the three round bursts is a technical band-aid for not having enough training time to teach people how to properly use real full-on three round bursts at least in the m16 as an example again of the u.s. ordnance Corps making a terrible decision in my opinion and I think that they realized it they went oh it wasn't just them a lot of people tinkered with three round bursts and it's kind of like 40 there's the perfect gun there you go a submachine gun chamber for 40 Smith & Wesson that is safe semi three round burst ya know what that sounds like mm perspective yeah it does but I mean you know I would rather I agree with you I'd rather I just have a semi or if either a fool or assembly but not the bit fools great but if my options are nothing or three round bursts I'll go enough I agree Duke Vaughn meet ii said if you could have any gun steampunked what would it be none of them because I hate steam I don't hate it if you guys are into it you go for it it is not an aesthetic that I'm interested in okay so I just died in there I like it but there are so many guns out there that already fit that as the heck that isn't that all of Star Wars I'm hard no come on those are all over two guns that have been like something done yeah but that they don't look like steve-o they look like Star Wars it's not this I see I can't tell the difference see steampunk is a Webley Fosbury actually steampunk is virtually anything made by Webley ever steampunk is a Mars steampunk could be a an old model Smith & Wesson American or Russian with the finger Tang that guy has a nice little steampunk hat on but I just I never really thought about I why make a different gun look steampunk when there's enough of it are the only thing I could think I ever saw get yourself a Farquhar Heil I can think of as I seen I think at least one or two people have done this modification where they used the gas off the barrel of a single-action army to eject spent cartridges yeah it names on the tip of my tongue a camera and this pen crushers go flying out the back end your face or you have to have a net or something yeah but that's kind of steampunky interesting sort of because it increases the functionality so I guess we're arguing as steampunk and aesthetic or a thing it's an aesthetic yes I don't care yeah what you do is you get a top hat a pair of goggles a trench coat and a Webley WG target and you're good okay Alex says Karl with your research into mid to low end red dot scopes for the what would stoner do project do you guys did you guys look at fixed magnification prismatic scopes in similar price range actually we did there's a video about it you you're the one that used it yes it was the too heavy that was one of the homes were they're too heavy and they have an eye box yeah that's the second part of the program like if there's the fixed magnification that means a fixed our box pigsty box is slower than though I box required and eye relief is a thing and I relief socks if you don't have to have it yeah so you know I think the only reason is if you have a serious astigmatism a serious one as if you have a minor one I'm but I never really paid attention to this but I'm starting to wonder if perhaps I have a minor stigmatism because I don't know that I've ever seen a red dot that actually looked like a crisp round Circle yeah they all look like will starters we're talking about that earlier today to me they look crisp and my solutions I put the star on the target and I pull the trigger and it's never really been an issue yeah now maybe there are some people who have more serious ones than me yeah but to my mind I mean if that works just fine as it is so if you're seeing two dots one for each yeah you got a problem yeah yes but if it's just an oval or a star uh-huh Rory says what do you think firearms laws will look like on other planets will they be more restrictive given the likelihood of government sponsorship or less do the frontier like spirit of colonization I have an interesting fall on this okay well you asked about the laws not the guns because I think the guns are another conversation right okay well yes no I think the gun laws will be atrocious because it won't be government-run it will be some corporatism run and it'll be some sort of owned by the corporation type of situation in which the security forces will have them and the regular individual colonists won't okay but that doesn't change that that does also does not include the narrative of what is an effective firearm in space see I don't think it matters what's effective because I think physics is going to pretty much dictate that we will not have firearms as we know them here because they weigh too much guns are heavy and perhaps more importantly the ammunition is heavy and you're paying to launch literal lead like a chunk of lead from Earth out of the gravity well to some other planet and no one fights fair you can't afford to do it no one's gonna do that no that's that's like asking why didn't settlers in the Old West have Gatling guns you're right well it takes up half the wagon and it cost $10,000 in 1872 it's also so I think what you're gonna see is a lot more of traumatic pistols taser like things less lethal not necessarily because they're not lethal but because they don't require lead and they're not based on kinetic energy I'm also gonna say that there were couple things when you said that really crossed my mind really quick unless depending on the planetoid ding you're on the reduced gravity of that means that the size and mass of the object can be different but what's important is it has to come off of Earth at least unless you're building it there I guarantee you bullet factories gonna be relatively low on the list of priorities for a call it also theoretically means this is again all in theory unless you're within an already pressurized environment like the space station a frickin wreck right a Red Ryder can kill your enemy that's true if they're in their suit and you're like watch this a major suit decompression over like I mean a BB gun could be lethal that's true right so that changes things to what I see more of is like personal conflict within whatever the community dwelling is the colony have habitat module and I think it's gonna be resolved as far as personal weapons go with stun guns tasers gas rocks not rocks people beating each other together with the food rehydrate er well okay yeah that chair but what's interesting is I think a lot of that stuff will probably be relatively easily accessible because it's not really covered or it's covered in such a liberal manner by gun laws as we have them today that's gonna be the default for a new planet right I don't share your pessimism about corporate dominance and and terribleness of planetary exploration alright well let me throw a positive out through them by the time we're doing interplanetary travel he'll be so evolved they came in conflict when no longer exists I do not plan to spend all of my days on earth alright and I'm not that much younger than you know so for what it's worth I spent the first two years in college at in aeronautical and astronautical engineering oh I thought you were gonna tell me that you were like an astral projection uh stand you travel the planet with your soul it's hard to carry on that way it is I think we can move on to the next question at this point sure eight SDF says I believe you were in mentioned at some point that you were working on a video or series about the best BAM state right yeah we have been having you know we actually haven't been well sorta we've mentioned it but we haven't really we gathered thingies we gathered some of the thingies inertia friction we lost focus on that and are we going maybe maybe I don't want to commit but I don't want to say no here's the answer get your cell often m1 garand with a red dot on it probably is the answer cut the barrel to 18 inches if you want to be really smoky that's probably the answer that is that said some of the things that are the dendrite is that came from that project spur prep preparation will show up on the channel yeah so you will see stuff elements there up if not a dedicated series let's see by the way for people who are immediately going to start questioning that the actual criteria of that was if you cannot have detachable magazines that was our standard correct Sean says well there haven't been well there have been a few here and word to heart yes I'm gonna just paraphrase this why aren't we filming as many to gun matches well I think we are we got the desert Batali series going on right now and that's what is that if that's not too good but there's been in my opinion I have put less of an emphasis on the channel of just match content because quite honestly I was watching the views go to the floor to be just be blunt but to me I think the two gun stuff is interesting because it is our lab yeah it is a lab to test the theories and to me it wasn't so much a match video as it was a video that was the laboratory process and the results of the match are the data but I would say that the gathering is not always the most interesting thing to watch a good chunk of the audience saw it as just match content and was literally watching the Datagram go so is it ever gonna be not on here absolutely not it's essential in quinna since we didn't range is it going to be as frequent as it was before nope play anything cool in VR lately Caleb you're happier I don't think you're gonna do that I was what happened long story I haven't yet thought you love it it was fun long story I haven't yet yes I have oh and you tell I don't care if you're a Walking Dead fan or not you don't need to be there recent was a release called Walking Dead saints and sinners and it takes place in The Walking Dead universe in the partially flooded remains of New Orleans oh it's it's it touches all the points it really does it is absolutely fantastic it is what the arc can be so I mean whether or not you're a fan of that universe literally walking around trying to stealthily avoid the dead but also humans interesting storyline between different factions of survivors killing stuff with the shank when it's on top of you in the head and their force and velocity with which you move the controller actually dictates if you make it through the skull like yes if you have a VR rig absolutely whether or not you care about walking dead or not check out that game it is awesome the guns break they Jam that's cool you have to manufacture ammunition from like salvaged components right it's epic cool yeah it's great Connor says what are your thoughts on 3d printing hard to find accessories for older firearms such as Carcano and block clips this is you so my my answer to this is a little bit skewed by the fact that I don't have a 3d printer mm-hmm so I suspect if I did I would be more into some of this because it would just be more accessible and easier to experiment with in general my concern is that a lot of the stuff that's rare is like sheet metal and polymer is not a great one to one replacement for sheet metal like you'd want replacement RSC 1970 exactly which might be possible I've seen some people talking about them but it's not really accessible to me at this point and so I it's it's hard to get excited and do much about it without being able to actually do it we've seen some cool stuff there's a guy at desert brutality who had 3d printed his own k31 charger clips yes and what was because that's cool yeah and it worked you can't actually get polymer ones from numerous days northridge these days but he also 3d printed a holder for them that went into I think was a USD I mag pouch and held a couple of K 31 Chargers in convenient easily accessible and yet still secure position yep that was really cool I think the challenge with at least Palmer based 3d printing is that when you're trying to replace something that's spring steel yeah how do you provide the rigidity and strength where it to hold the cartridges but not be over mold to the point where it won't fit the gun yeah it'll happen like Center metal or something there's only me wrong but at the moment to make something like an m1 garand block clip yeah and one other thing I would add on is that this is is valid for things that are suitable because if it's not suitable and it's a rare accessory or part that you're looking for like the point of having it is to have the original as a collectible thing yes so having a 3d printed one is like it doesn't fulfill the need even if it mechanically does the same thing yeah no I agree with that I was thinking more along the lines of things like what really popped on my head was like your your RFC 1917 thing that would be a great place to have clips yeah because it's consumed them right the gun eats them yeah yeah yeah now the ones that I've used are intended to be disposable like earthy egg clips are intended to be disposable you're sourcing magazines right what I mean yeah but the Bertier clips are less good like they're reusable in bolt-action rifles because the actions will more gentle on them right but yeah the RSC really does kind of it it's disposable Clips really have to be disposal it's like done with this now so it's something no people are gonna read this and they're in me some people out there who have 3d printers who get all excited like I'll make you RSC clips and the problem is I have one real one and you don't want to use and I'm not yeah I'm not gonna shoot it up I did some shooting with a real one that belonged to a guy in Canada who was very generous with it his rifle and his clip I'm not willing to shoot mine because there's nothing really effective I can do that I haven't already done with one clip you get five rounds and then you destroy your single Club you could reuse it two or three times probably by sending it back into shape maybe it's like it's not like I can run through a match with it right and I'm not willing to mail it someone there's a loner as a model a lot of people suggest that and I've I've done that a number of times with professional upstanding and totally well-intentioned people and it basically never actually works out if we want to get cyber punky with that we could take it to someone that's got a 3d modelling thing and just stick it on their little model their scanner and scan a the sender's send the data to someone hypothetically yes that's a thing I don't know a person with one of those and I'm not willing to loan the clip to someone who has the laser scanner maybe someday and ultimately we get kind of get to the point where it's like it's the labor and the effort involved in making this happen isn't worth the result maybe someday ultimately an RSC is a really expensive gun that I could shoot one to guy match with you don't need to shoot at that but which would be cool but do I want to risk the gun on that cuz it's not that hard dick crack the stock or crack the hint you know that's where I got what's that g41 that I had for a while I got a g41 like I have a 43 and I got a 41 and then you saw it you shot it I think was like almost a museum piece in terms of matching serial numbers nice yeah and then you shoot it and it really does handle worse than a 43 it's worth three times the value over 43 and I was like this doesn't make sense I'm not gonna this is one gun that I'm not gonna drag through the dirt a to go yeah so I just and I don't really keep things that I'll shoot so like one of the 41 was like this I don't want to damage this gun that's literally where I was at if it were a $500 gun it'd be different oh yeah but the value invested in that yeah so I sold it and I don't want to damage it for someone else because that thing is literally a historic relic yeah yeah you're a caretaker yeah yeah sukkah says with desert brutality 20/20 over was there anything you can think of that would have been expanded on or gone better you'd be surprised by this answer I would not have put the spinner at the end of the trench stage you would have put it back home where it wasn't involved in the match no couple things happen in that the spinner makes a sense and has a place the problem with that stage is that stage was so epically cool that when it ended with par out for most people because of the spinner it took a dent into how cool the state was and no it's the truth and that was a mistake and one of the things that contributed to that was I didn't realize that when we were firing from the end of the trench that we were at a firing angle and solution to the spinner they made it particularly more difficult than average it was it was facing us head-on but we were firing at an upward angle and the spinner wasn't exactly flat it made that's been her worse so the fact we're somewhere Fagin almost didn't get it once so that was a presentation error a problem with this is that when you do these things you don't always hit it perfectly what I have changed that yeah that would have been one I would have changed how did it make the stage not fun no it just would have been more fun what was the other question when I made it longer was No something that would have been expanded or gone better I can't think of anything else that could have gone better that thing around literally ahead of schedule yeah and it'd been a little warmer that couldn't change that um it would have been nice not to have those model airplanes flying around while we're videoing what do you mean can you think of anything what it got rid of the spinner okay what made my match I already smashed that so what else okay um you know it would be really nice and this is I don't know if this is what you know this is not feasible it'd be really cool to be able to have five or six minute stages it isn't feasible and the problem is that's only feasible if you have a small number of shooters and if you have a small number of shooters the match is not economically viable to run not unless we take the current number of shooters which was 220 and then you drop it to like 60 and then and then triple the cost but you have write tickets would be six or $700 750 and at that point is yeah but it would be that's one thing that we've never really done is have particularly extended length I would like to do that I agree with that people gonna say but they did it at Ironman yeah it's different yeah the reason well the reason they did it is because they had shooting where you were moving so much as you were like engaging 783 targets that were doing from distance but I'm exaggerating of course but you know josh says I live in a state that restricts barrel profile on new AR builds I am planning on building a what would stoner do 2020 but assembling the upper myself to comply with state regulations do you think a fax on heavy fluted barrel or other similar h-bar compliant barrel is a good compromise no I'm glad you're willing to say that because I agree I frankly think that the focus of what would stoner do carbine or the Western project was and people make this mistake to be as light as possible that was not it it was to be as light as possible but still be practical and useful without sacrificing my life bill also balance and the guns balance is great I'm gonna go ahead and say almost perfectly if not perfectly the minute you put a heavy barrel or anything heavier than that pencil on there even when we were testing the ballistic advantage barrel which was a slightly thicker profile than pencil the balance was thrashed yeah like and that balance matters and I hate to say this I'm not trying to discourage you when you put that heavy barrel on a very lightweight lower it's going to be very forward heavy yeah so it's the balance is gonna get just tweaked yeah sorry gonna work fine oh yeah but unfortunately you can't like the whole point is is undercut by the requirement to use a heavy barrel what a dumb requirement I know once like that does anything like literally yeah okay they say ours harder to get that's it I got really good enough that's probably the logic turbo 1889 says a friend suggested that ultimately the NFA and similar infringement swill be gotten around by projectile launchers that use electromagnetics rather than gunpowder to launch projectiles what are your thoughts on this it'll give you getting her Italy gotten around long enough for them to augment the law and put it right back where was potentially so in a technical sense this person is completely correct all of our firearms regulations are based on use of explosives or high-speed combustibles to launch projectiles and nothing that is electromagnetic is covered by existing firearms regulation mm-hmm this is similar to the fact that ironically speaking flamethrowers are not covered by firearms regulation because they don't expel a projectile through the use of I don't remember the exact language but through the use of an explosive will they change the laws maybe probably will they do it like how quickly will they do that after people start inventing stuff probably a little slowly the legislature always takes time to figure out and catch up on stuff like there'll be a glory period for a little while you see it with 3d printed stuff as well yeah I think we're a long ways away from that the problem is doing creating an electromagnetic projectile firing weapon that is similar in power to a firearm requires a level of energy storage technology that we don't have right now you just wrap a battleship to your back you know what in the 1890s they were experimenting with electric motors on Gatling guns and it was a naval application because literally you had a battleship to provide the power in a way that you couldn't do in an army perspective but but that said technology is something that's unpredictable and there will be disruptive RUP technologies like this absolutely yeah I don't mean to sound like a pessimist but I really think that if something that was effective enough to match the Equality of an explosively charged firearm I bet you will see efficiency in government that was generally not seen hmm I need a cool nickname says I will be attending my first competitive match i DPI this spring because of in-range sweet huh excellent what should I need or look for in gear especially a holster for dual competition and eventual concealed carry I have a polymer 80 Glock 19 one huge mistake in that whole sentence for and it isn't going to competition because awesome glad to hear that and it isn't that you can use the same gun because that's even better it's that you said dual use the same holster you're gonna have to have more than one Oscar you're gonna have to have holsters that are applicable to the cause if you're coming to a two gun match man you better have retention because you're gonna get DQ'd at heartbeat-like that's the most important thing more important to speed more important than anything is retention then secondarily comes protection keeping it out the dirt and debris that's the opposite of what you want at an IDP match which is concealed protections probably provided by undergarments or over garments you're probably also not crawling through a bit of mud in an IDP niche in fact I know you're not so therefore that holster and that holster are two different worlds apart so I am NOT I haven't shot IDPA in years and years I don't know their stance on different holsters you can't carry appendix okay against the rules you might be able to find a holster that works appendix and strong side that you can weight that you could do one holster company I would recommend is fill stir okay I've had excellent results with fill stir holsters sure they're great that would be my and mine actually I carry appendix but I've also used it as a strong side in the waistband and it just rolls around and works fine in that application that an in the waistband holster can be applied as appendix or not a purse strong side I think you can do that yeah I agree that's one holster for both of those I think IDPA is about the only competition sport fit you could dual purpose holster with tyreme yeah because of their consumer hip succour to gun or three gun your holsters are gonna be totally incompatible regular carry or you use a carry holster recognising that it puts you at a serious disadvantage competitively hundred percent which by the way is not a terrible idea no it's not even a bad idea the idea of going to a competition specifically to build your skill set with a carry gun that's cool that's a that's a great idea you just have to recognize that you're doing it for your own personal skill building and you're not doing it to be directly competitive I shoot at EPA very irregularly it's got to be on one of those days where I just have the I don't know happens just does and my general mantra that an IDP matches give me the procedural I just take whatever procedurals you want to give me what they've done for me to an ITP match is set up a course of fire that I can shoot and my score I just throw in the trash I'm done I'm not trying to denigrate I'm just saying their rules do not apply to my goals if your goals are to be good at IDPA then absolutely shoot for the score I go there to practice with a concealed carry gun which I carry appendix I'm like get me the procedural I don't care you know what this is the same as if someone wants to come to to gun yeah but they're like I have a bad knee I can't throw a federal bail yeah take the procedural take just take the penalty doesn't matter and shoot what you can shoot and get out of it what you can get out and ID pay frequently sets up really interesting good courses a fire that are generally reasonable round count for a reasonable carry gun yeah so I can go there and practice all day long but I just throw that the scores in the trash around done all right Louis lease says our a K recoil spring buffers a gimmick or actually useful to prevent wear and tear gimmick you don't I've only seen them causing malfunctions actually if you do need it the guns built well the gun might be a gimmick is it is it all American made a cake because if so unless it came from a boutique builder like Jim fuller yeah you don't want a mass-produced american-made vaycay I've never seen those buffer thingies do anything beside literally I've seen them to cause problems yeah they failed but I've never seen them cause looking like you had to say that except for your one gun because I have my little shorty a K crank fain uses a recoil buffer and it's essential but that's because I did the receiver badly and without it the bolt carrier pops out it's also a gimmick gun yes that's true I mean we've got the front sides welded well it's a hack to make that thing work yeah yes that's exactly okay that's fair but that should not be the case with any if you had bought that gun retail you should have taken it back that should not be the case with a good ok Matt says will you have more civil war and/or westerns firearms content I was happy to see you around the 62 colt 73 Colt and 73 Winchester and recent videos absolutely well I don't know if you watching desert brutality but Iran does a Battaglia with a 73 yes there's a whole you mentioned earlier I've been slowly collecting the large majority of the Civil War cavalry carbines those are all gonna be represented and pistols as well including the Walker alum at sixty Cole to me yeah this is all gonna happen it's gonna get it's not gonna happen tomorrow it's gonna happen over time because as with everything no one's interested in only one topic or that may some people are still only one topic but no one's like if I did just that it would be that it would be the month of the month bergman month of Winchester's and black powder coats right so what you're gonna see is that's gonna come up intermittently but I'm going I am absolutely planning on hitting all them cool and our very last question Christopher says you mentioned that a problem with reproducing cool historical gun designs is that far more people say they'll buy the reproduction of something that when it's hypothetical and will actually put their money where their mouths are if someone goes ahead and does it why isn't there a Kickstarter equivalent for firearms yet and is there anything you can do to remedy this well there's a huge issue with credit card processing and if idea financial transactions with firearm development in general yeah so all the major crowdfunding sites which is say like Kickstarter and IndieGoGo or they expressly prohibit you from building and selling firearms and by the way that's interesting I don't know what their particular individual beliefs are but you may not be you may be mad at the wrong people right it may very well be the financial process if the credit card company is on the back end are generally the ones that dictate what is or is it not allowed let you know what the sadistic um any type of controversial industry is affected by this yeah credit card processing for sex work or adult work or like cam work any of that stuff on the internet whether you like they're not marijuana in the states that have legalized marijuana it's still a weird cash only because of banking whatever you think of these things right I'm just saying that things businesses that it's it on the fringe and we can argue the firearm shouldn't be on the fridge okay fine I would argue the same I guess what they are and so take an industry that's on the fringe I mentioned sex work you mentioned marijuana medical or otherwise those all run into significant fiduciary transactional issues with the small but large credit card processors which make the same problem for this now there is something we rant we learn in a shot so called gun dynamics I think their dynamics column I'll look it up and remember there is one out there the guy that was showing you the gun I yeah deal mentioned it so there's something like that out there it's very small in scope I'll find it put the link in the video if the problem is having a gun specific Kickstarter is kind of like having gun specific video networks hmm they're not generally speaking going to be big enough to be self-sustaining no so there is a little bit out there I think all of this is compounded by the fact that as you stated in the question there aren't that many people who are actually willing to pay it and it's not like the people who say oh I totally buy a reproduction and then you come back oh my god it's six thousand dollars they're like oh nevermind that's because people underestimate the difficulty I know but if you instead said hey what would you buy a reproduction Webley Fosbury here's my Kickstarter and for a six thousand dollar pledge you'll get one it's even worse now because now it's the same amount of money and someone goes oh no except it's worse because now it's you'll get one eventually if I make this work your pre paying for it well the idea behind it right is you get a lot of people putting in micro payments and then an aggregate they get enough money to be able to make the production that would be for example as Germany they're right you see the problem being able to run it as a Kickstarter doesn't change the fact that it's more expensive than most people are going to be willing to pay simply because the process over there if the development process is far more complicated than most people realize and definitely more complex more expensive and complex than they're willing to actually support yeah it doesn't matter if you're kick-starting it the things ultimately $5,000 it's still freaking $5,000 right yeah that's fair yeah yeah I agree it's that's a hard wand REE so yeah do you take the development risk and spread it out among all of your pre-sale backers or do you focus it all on the one person doing the development or the one person financed in the development that doesn't change how much risk there actually is which is substantial in these things which brings back the point that Rick Smith of SMG guns is a wizard holy crap he's like the only person who is successfully on any sort of manufacturing scale done well Rick Smith and breccia in Italy hmm cuz those guys pulled it off Rick Rick Rick is done more than once yeah did the type 2 the type ones coming yep he did the DP yep he did these doing the RP 46 yep that's all him yeah like now to be fair the DPS the RP 46 is a from-scratch thing the DPS reports get billed still people have done successful parts gets billets all right but the idea that I mean what most people are talking about on this are more exotic guns that would be entirely built from scratch okay but the RP 46 is an example of him making a pin from scratch the FG is absolutely completely there the stern go bears that aren't here no they're with the merwin and Hobart yeah you had some involvement in well and as in them taking money and like not giving me a product yes there was the first fg42 no relation to Rick Smith done by someone else that I put money into and they you totally screwed you got I got zero percent of my money back were any firearms same thing out with the moral Bert there has been talk of reproduction Webley Foss Barry's actually Wow now I don't know of them taking money but that hasn't happened there's been talk of reproduction auto mags which maybe will happen but I don't think they're out yet oh wait there was another guy Luger man he made those 45 Lugar's that's borderline mass production to me okay like Rick Smith has done hundreds of guns okay getting there but like his production runs I think are 40 at a time all right buddy buddy make guns at work yeah you make gun that's my point you made a reproduction thingy that actually fires reliable yep and his 45s are from scratch good that was one that just popped in my head yeah that's we should not discount him that's true yeah but man there's so many examples of people who try it and and don't aren't able to deliver which is why even though the wood stone of your project has pre-orders it does not take money to preorder bingo and that'll never be a thing I'll ever talk about on this channel again if it's a pre-order it better be one you just put your name next to but no money down or Rick takes 100 bucks right and he takes a hundred bucks to keep his list honest well that's fair because here's the thing if you go on to the world go hey guys who would like to buy an FG 42 turns out everyone that's ever played a video game right so they all put their name on the list and then Rick tries to ramp up Rick's like holy [ __ ] I 5,000 people are gonna buy the gun so by putting $100 down out of a $5,000 investment which by the way is the miniscule amount in the grand scheme of that it's going is it ok well more than 5,000 which night doesn't surprise me or anything it didn't happen but that makes sure that the people putting their name on a list are legitimate so alright guys hopefully enjoy the Q&A it's always a pleasure I like it so much more when it's both of us it's more interesting back and forth again these questions come from our patreon supporters if you are one thank you you keep in range alive if you're not please consider it and if you can't it's 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