Mad Skillz On Ghostwriting, "Rap Up," DMX, "Hip Hop Confessions," His Career & More | Drink Champs

[Music] yo what's up this your boy mad skills va all day and right now you checking out drink champs let's get it drink chips [Music] [Music] drink chips [Music] [Music] so [Music] what it could be hopefully this is what it should be this is your boy nre what up it's dj efn this middle timmy crazy war yappy hour drink chestnuts and right now when you talk about stables when you talk about a legend when you talk about when you google virginia this man's face should pop up like the state farm commercial it doesn't already i think it does but the men we talk about bars bar lord we talk about lyrical when you talk about everybody from his state has to pay homage to him the first very one from that and we're going to get to the if if this is the south or not the debate it's been a discussion yeah but the man has transitioned the man is a ghost writer he's done numerous things he's still here and we're gonna get to all the controversy everything but we don't even know right now virginia's number one representative in the world [ __ ] mad skills [Applause] can we say mad skill if you just want to be scared hell of an intro somebody to say something right because we have a brown one here right this became a controversial topic he declared virginia as being the south but said that baltimore was the south too the ball that was the controversy people did not like that yeah yeah they were like no we are not the south yeah be more be more now i wouldn't say be more is the south so the south starts in virginia yeah we are right on the middle of the mason-dixon lineup is the capital of the south the capital of the south no during the confederacy yes commonwealth all day wow yeah i got kicked out of virginia mall because i was um yeah i saw the guy i was walking through and um people were following me and instead of like the police saying yo yo you know stop the people the police say you gotta go i said how the [ __ ] what the heck listen you're crazy so let's just take it back right because a lot of people got the um this is another pharrell thing too a lot of people got teddy riley was like a person who kind of like made virginia hot is that accurate to say yes but teddy was from new york so how did that how did that go when teddy came down um we were like enamored you know what i'm saying lost so to speak because it was like he was right there right you know what i'm saying so you be teddy was like [ __ ] up [ __ ] like [ __ ] you be in school at lunch and [ __ ] like yo michael jackson's [ __ ] virginia beach [ __ ] what right like [ __ ] you me so um teddy coming down and making that move opened up like he he opened up a whole [ __ ] stratosphere of opportunities like you gotta think teddy's the only [ __ ] that was a super producer and made like were not made but opened the door for two other super producers like you you go you know you ride by the studio and see the [ __ ] lambo the ferrari [ __ ] like it's right there you know what i'm saying super close and all the places that teddy could have went what made him pick virginia i have no clue i have no clue i remember being at something in the water the first one um i remember being at something some in the water my man boogie you know what i'm saying boogie we standing there watching teddy perform and he's saying he said to me he said skills do you realize that teddy is performing rump shaker on the same beach that he shot the video hosted at a [ __ ] festival by the [ __ ] he put over 20 axis amount of years later wow like that's insane wow that was crazy so when was the first time because i want to read what pusha t said shall push so you know this is what i do when i um you interview people i hit people that's around them he said no real story just that he was really the first rapper that was truly proud of from va he was performing with the tribe i believe when they came to va for a show and that alone meant that he made it in my eyes i remember his outfit a tommy or polo chino style zip up we weren't like friends or anything back then we uh weren't even from the same town but i thought he represented va the way i wanted to see it done he probably he probably doesn't remember that time might not even remember me there i i don't i never knew he was there yeah yeah you know what i'm saying but now like but like but let me let me try to say a little bit when when people thought of virginia it was one person they thought of at one time because i know we just go to teddy but teddy let's just be clear teddy was from hall yeah all day you like when when you google you all of these people names from pusha t to ferrar to timberland off right what was that like that's one part question uh aren't you let's just answer that question first i mean to be first was always weird what i'm saying like because they're scuba diving and [ __ ] [ __ ] forget the first you know i'm saying they're they quick to you know i don't feel like we pay enough respects to the bands and the hurts and you know what i'm saying like that so it's like when you first it's weird but i knew that where i was from had to be represented in a way that people hadn't seen it before right you know i'm saying like so it was [ __ ] calling us country [ __ ] calling us banners and [ __ ] same same [ __ ] with atlanta in a way like when i was like my [ __ ] like like we we we get [ __ ] busy like we do what we do like half y'all [ __ ] down here at school anyway come down and get show money drug money you know i'm saying that is what it is so it's like what y'all ain't gonna do is is clown us but nobody was out there the only [ __ ] was was deangelo and that's r b like so [ __ ] like oh man you know d'angelo you know i'm like [ __ ] what you wanna he's held as a r b superstar nigga's like oh you know he don't really say the town got a lot of [ __ ] what you want to make a song called [ __ ] cruising in richmond he r b artist so it was up to me to to to hold that flag and i was like when i get the shot like it's going to be a problem because it was like michael vick and alan iverson yes and then you like that was it yeah and then we kind of knew because i want to say like i don't want to say like a conscience but you were like you you were aware but when we looked at michael vick and when we looked at a.i we started these guys up and then we looked up newport news yeah bad news yeah but so what was it like here hearing these guys yeah we call we call that's all we knew so vic bubba chuck to see them make it you know i'm saying we knew like that we had people in that we were talented yeah i'm saying because you gotta understand like i'm i'm from where i'm from i'm from a town called richmond it's like an hour away from where pharrell anymore so yeah they feel like virginia beach but there's seven cities in that whole region so imagine imagine [ __ ] miami right imagine florida miami and let's say fort myers is [ __ ] 20 minutes away all right orlando's 15 minutes away [ __ ] and that's a whole city and it's a whole different city so they got seven different cities from where i'm from i'm like an hour back towards in england you know what i'm saying like richmond so like to see a.i and vic man it was like somebody yeah i'm saying and they was wrapping it d'angelo he was repping it but he r b so it's you know i'm saying he ain't about to wear eight chains in a [ __ ] jersey right yeah i'm saying so ai hey i mean it's like a guy him and vic like god's in virginia i'm saying wow wow man that's make some noise for that yeah so um so boom how did you even come up q10 uh uh okay okay youtube put you on it i was discovered by q-tip you went too fast okay oh all right all right let's let's describe that is this this show that what your t is talking about yes well later okay so so 93 i'll go to jack the rapper in atlanta hold on hold on hold on those were the days i'm sorry to be old right now yeah but listen you [ __ ] asking me to look at your instagram and get tags we have [ __ ] called jack the [ __ ] rapper yeah we got to wait on [ __ ] line to see dj right alert thanks to cgj khaled to see these people yeah and that was real grind i'm sorry you gotta be your flashback i'm sorry man i call it holy with three of my homies and um i'm in this lobby i got we got passes so we legit we ain't sneaking around we got you know we paid our money you know i'm saying so i'm walking around and it's just it's in the lobby it's huge ass hotel [ __ ] 60 floors right so i i see these [ __ ] in the corner like bopping like [ __ ] is like it's a b playing i hear beat i see [ __ ] like bop and i'm like yo who that be hard you know what i'm saying i walk over and i see [ __ ] cutesy but it's it's it said like imagine this this this [ __ ] right here this is a plank but it's like a the lobby so big it's a [ __ ] tree in the lobby but it's not it's insane this is the summer that midnight marauders is wow so i see it was a producer from from jersey his name was latif these [ __ ] had a radio and they bopping wow and i'm looking and i can't get in it's too many [ __ ] around to get in i go to the back of the [ __ ] tree this shit's like six feet tall it's like a [ __ ] pilot plant i crawl up on the back of the [ __ ] and walk over so this [ __ ] looks over his shoulder you came out of a tree like he looks over his shoulder like that who is sun in the trees but i'm bobbing and i'm like i'm vibing so he's like yo [ __ ] ain't trying so i boom i start rapping so i start rapping and he like he looking like yo this sneaky crazy like this [ __ ] crazy the [ __ ] that i cut off cut me back off so now i'm going to say you want battle so i cut him off go ham right [ __ ] what's the matter yeah i'm going to body security comes over yo y'all gotta disperse your my man come down at the tree like y'all doing too much oh you're doing all this happening off the tree but i'm standing over to the side and you know [ __ ] walking up the step like this my tape you know from jersey but i see him he keep like looking to his right like i guess to see if i'm there so i'm like i ain't going anywhere i'm just gonna stand here so i'm standing there i see the [ __ ] he like yo yo come here son so i'll walk over here like yo what's your name i said mad skills he's like yo son you ill son where are you where you from son i was like i'm from i'm from virginia oh yeah yeah like from where i said virginia he was like yo what you doing after this i said no i'm just chilling my [ __ ] like what's up he's like yo you want to roll to this radio station and i was like [ __ ] yeah we go up to his room this first time i see a [ __ ] had a suite i'm used to walking to hotel rooms and it's the [ __ ] hotel room we walked in the room it's the sweet i'm like oh this thing got the whole she's like polo [ __ ] everywhere [ __ ] clothes tim's you know i'm saying this in the third he said you wanna get dressed real quick let me change the old sit down real quick yo and it's a cd player right [ __ ] the [ __ ] goes but it's cute so the [ __ ] go show um i'm gonna get dressed real quick yo this is the album and a [ __ ] hit a button and i hear oh wait and he plays you the album [ __ ] and heart comes out like before only thing i was awards trump sitting there is it homies no it's just me so if you like if you didn't become who you are [ __ ] people who thought you was lying [ __ ] straight lie there's no instagram back there so i'm sitting there and i'm like what the [ __ ] is like some jazz [ __ ] like what the [ __ ] is this [Laughter] lyndon boulevard represent and i'm like oh [ __ ] like the [ __ ] album so i hit a [ __ ] album i think the next song was award so i think the next song was uh the fight uh went to lyndon boulevard to get a milkshake this [ __ ] comes out the room like yo you ready i'm like yeah like [ __ ] you want to still listen to the album right because i'm like how old are you at that point [ __ ] i'm like early 20s like 20 20 maybe 21 we get in the elevator lytro's in the elevator his road manager we go downstairs we go downstairs and me being thinking man i had one of those yellow [ __ ] kodak cameras i said yo let's take a picture real quick he like alright cool the van's supposed to come up we take the picture this little kid walks into the picture i got [ __ ] on my grandma's crazy little kid walks into the picture i get into the van i slide over he get in the front seat this [ __ ] goes yo this is my man murse and this mace and i turn around wow and he like he like he tells posse he goes yo this [ __ ] ill son possible is he he crazy he's like your son this thing is so now you was lady i think about it because you know why it's like red man is technically who tanks yeah okay yeah yeah and uh yeah so wow okay all right so then the hip hop confession series right what was what what what was the uh motive behind that well i started it's just like 10 years old right so i started it and this is what's crazy i i i i should picture [ __ ] i'm running around and i'm asking [ __ ] like [ __ ] like yo like tell me some stories like tell me some hip-hop [ __ ] like what's your hip-hop confession so it was [ __ ] like yo you know i never really you know listen to songs so i i don't like so-and-so as the mc i know you're the hottest thing i don't like them like every [ __ ] you would say that you really wouldn't say around the homies so hip-hop confession started because me and [ __ ] sat down and i had it the producer back yeah and i had a whole it was a whole tv show it's a va too right yeah yeah i had a whole tv show and we put the [ __ ] out and then after like six episodes it got it got harder to find [ __ ] to to want to tell the truth to tell stories so i fell back off the [ __ ] then a year later podcast happened wow and i'm like [ __ ] the guys earlier so [ __ ] been asking me for 10 years straight yo bring back hip-hop confessions so i just brought it back like this yeah so um supernatural what was your relationship y'all battled what was that i mean if he was a battle mc at that time you're going through supernatural i send it i send the uh demo in the back of the source to the clark kent superman battle for world war ii that's my og i got a funny claw ken story too everybody got funny and [ __ ] i get picked i get to new york and it's the new music seminar it's 30 off right there on [ __ ] midtown manhattan [ __ ] 49th or whatever hella green badges all this [ __ ] soon at 16 mc's they're the dj battle did a rap battle it's 16 mc's i see this one [ __ ] walking with dreads i'm like yeah this [ __ ] different like it's going to be me and him like this [ __ ] different so he start running running past [ __ ] getting him out of there i'm doing the same thing puff is puff is on the judging table tracy wakeless sheena lester and todd won from from [ __ ] mtv from uh umt raps so [ __ ] get to the end and dame is there like this [ __ ] can't like they can't decide who's gonna win and i think the winner was uh you got a demo deal in the jacket and a ring and then the the second person got a demo deal nobody know about that right so boom me and this didn't keep going back and forth he hop in the crowd he's freestyling about what [ __ ] get on i hop in and cry after him freestyle about what [ __ ] [ __ ] like yo these [ __ ] he like clock like yo they going back and forth puff like nah man like these [ __ ] dope let them go clock like yo [ __ ] this like we gotta get the [ __ ] outta here so they do the whole um yeah the apologies yeah yeah yeah yo y'all give it up give it up for uh supernatural from brooklyn all right give it up for mad skills from virginia later i find out here from brooklyn but then he's from indiana wow but then he then they say like yo this man was nice enough he's gonna take the ring in the jacket he's gonna give him the demo deal so i'm like i don't want the [ __ ] demo deal [ __ ] i want the ring in the [ __ ] jacket like me i want to be the best i'm not coming up here to [ __ ] be second so i came in second and i got the demo deal which which kept me in tune with clark i go outside and it's a cypher outside jay-z outside demolishing [ __ ] running through love for us no [ __ ] signed rappers was looking at the cipher like oh yeah now i want no problems with this [ __ ] getting straight into car service like out home was killing [ __ ] young it's a young green landing in there looking like a [ __ ] 14 year old and clock is behind them acting out all the words and they're saying the third but me and clark ended up having a um relationship afterwards and clark did my demo i used to [ __ ] go to class house and talk [ __ ] about jay-z like a dumbass oh [ __ ] get out of here like i don't reckon no no i will go to clark kiss i'm driving so i'm still trying to prove now i'm the best and he's like yo i want you to listen to this [ __ ] i got named name jay and i'm like alright so he played me records and [ __ ] and i'm like yo i i i smashed that [ __ ] club like i'm killing me and he like yeah yeah i could calm down listen to the records again he played he played me a record called what's in the name [ __ ] was the most crazy [ __ ] i've ever heard my life he was talking about uh he was talking about hustling but he was talking he was using [ __ ] names and assault like rappers that's crazy it's still 10 records i heard at clark's house i've never heard before so then i guess maybe after the third time me and clark did some [ __ ] clark just gets tired of it i'm gonna he like he played me another jay-z record i'm listening to this [ __ ] i'm like i see your club man yo put me in the room that [ __ ] i bought it and he like [ __ ] i [ __ ] with you i'm i'm going through your demos jay-z is a jesus christ of rap stop talking about jay-z i'm like jesus christ like you got he's like before so at this point i'm like i'm like all right relax clock news so boom i'm gonna do one of yours fast forward way later 98 uh i'm in 98 or some [ __ ] i mean i'm going to stay in my life with timberland we in the manhattan center in the little studio knocking out joints so it's me i want to say tim petey pablo and jimmy douglas right tim i think petey was there don't give me the line they left me and jimmy douglas in the studio this 98 hole this [ __ ] comes into the studio just me jimmy douglas jay-z he's like yo we're timmy he's like yo he left i think he'd be right back he said yo pull it up what do you want me to hit pull it up he pulls the beat up beat playing and this [ __ ] takes a tennis ball and just starts throwing the tennis ball to the floor to the wall back to his hand floor to the wall back to his hand and he just mumbling floor to the wall back to his hand floor to the wall back to his hand 15 minutes all right the [ __ ] looks at jimmy douglas and goes yo i'm ready [Laughter] this [ __ ] goes into the booth is you a pimp [ __ ] yeah i'm a pimp [ __ ] lobster shrimp [ __ ] lobster shrimp [ __ ] and what's her name and i get like [ __ ] starts doing the verse right [ __ ] starts rapping [ __ ] like j-hover [ __ ] i before i never got no play now these [ __ ] want to give me more head than shot day when i'm in la the the uh the 6-4 is ill when i'm in atl is to coop the ville when i'm in miami i'm hopping through on the all black ninja with the sock over my shoe mommy sending you like who can stop you i'm like yo [ __ ] like this [ __ ] did all this [ __ ] in one take i'm sitting there going yeah this nigga's great like we rap that [ __ ] like i've never seen it before but hole [ __ ] did that [ __ ] in like one take and left it was like yeah might two versus two hooks left wow didn't even get the seat set no no and then months later i hit a record and i'm just like this [ __ ] it's [ __ ] now he different so in your whole nose category who you going with i would have to say jay because you experienced that but now i've watched me on the song though so it knows watching me on the timberland song like straight did me in so so he next year we did a song together called to my [ __ ] and uh i did my verse classic [ __ ] i did my verse and i'm [ __ ] i'm on tim's album and [ __ ] the song comes out i'm like oh [ __ ] i'm on a song with knives [ __ ] beat come on it don't stop b come on i'm like oh [ __ ] and i was about to be on this song this [ __ ] comes out of nowhere splat y'all dudes the guests i use ice hanging off my chest cause my cash improved i'm just like oh [ __ ] i didn't get a chance to change my [ __ ] enough like [ __ ] like this [ __ ] was like instead of benny honest y'all could eat plenty of nazis like this nigga's going ham and i'm just like [Music] i go back to virginia [ __ ] like yeah you got watched but then i got a song does that take away from you because you know for years the year-long discussion was who had the better verse on bad from tv right for me right and i actually really don't care but you know sometimes when i pay attention but overall i always looked at the record as his totality yeah i never looked at you know pun had the better verse or nature had the better verse i think i had the better brother i don't care but what does that take away from the record when when people look at it like that when people look at it like this verse like to me i look i like renegade as a total song yep i didn't relate to marshall's verse but i didn't say it marshall's versus whack i like to dissolve them does that doesn't affect you know why for me like when j j is rapping he's doing j when [ __ ] eminem starts rapping it sounds like somebody's playing a instrument yeah it sounds like a [ __ ] sat down at the keys and went now when i'm in the position to talk to these kids and they listen i ain't no politician but i kick it with her and i'm just like who is legit i gotta agree with you but i also have to disagree with you because if you're talking about [ __ ] that i don't care about right absolutely exactly yeah i can't i can't tune in and i don't know disrespectful no but i've never visualized killing my mom's like i swear to god i'm not mad at her i'm sorry we are as young black men as [ __ ] up as our lives is coming from we love them we love our mama like [ __ ] we could never make a video [ __ ] putting a shovel over our mom and if we did bt wouldn't pay it's just his cadence like i've never seen i understand what you're saying i never you're looking at the technicality of how he's running because i've never seen nobody [ __ ] manipulate vows the way that [ __ ] do all right i'm talking about m like when you listen to lose yourself like the two vowel sounds and lose yourself is um and act right you got um you got x so when he starts [ __ ] rapping mom's spaghetti knees weak arms are heavy there's vomit on his sweater already mom's forgetting he's nervous but on the surface he looks calm and ready to drop bomb like he when when he puts together [ __ ] when he puts together [ __ ] i know it's as close to perfect as it can be because the [ __ ] takes four perfections like [ __ ] we walk in the booth one take hold we think we to take hold like [ __ ] i'm done right [ __ ] in trash what i'm saying like he will sit down and go these are the words that [ __ ] fit no other words in the english language fit because if they did they'd be here it's like he's writing music [ __ ] i think one of the craziest songs of all time is the gun yes the gun by the way yes yes yeah that's just incredible man like i couldn't understand how how you did that right is is that what is this is song writing yes okay very very much so but also to the point of where it's like like some people are just gifted you know i'm saying to be able to like we've heard [ __ ] personify themselves as weed and personify themselves as hip-hop and [ __ ] i did it nas is different when it comes to that [ __ ] yeah any [ __ ] still look [ __ ] 21 right yeah i'm saying like so he not he wanted the greats man so i was happy to get watched on a song right by by esco now now when we google you a lot one of the first things that comes up is this famous ghost ride right which i ain't gonna tell you nothing all right but how does one go about that like what happens is the record label that suggests that no no i was in new york uh new york dj at the time i ain't gonna say who he was who's right for fabulous i'm in the studio and um you know i'm just in new york i'm a virginia [ __ ] from in new york like and i have signed a big beat and [ __ ] he comes in and to the wrong room like like oh [ __ ] i thought i thought this was the b room i said nah nah it's next door whatever he like okay cool oh [ __ ] skittles right i'm like yeah you like what you're working on so i playing some [ __ ] and they're like nah this [ __ ] hard [ __ ] she let me get this and i'm like the dj's saying this yeah but the only thing on it is the hook he's like you should let me get this and i'm like yeah let me let me put my raps on it i'm not knowing that the [ __ ] saying i want this and i want to put other rappers on it i don't [ __ ] with you like this i know who you are you use cool but this [ __ ] huh first time boom [ __ ] comes what studio you said this was cutting room he's trying to piece it together it might have been unique okay quite a bit unique all right and then um so i give them the [ __ ] with the hook in it [ __ ] comes out they hit me for the splits i got a big percentage of the record but that's not considered ghost writing yet because no no no but nobody knew but i hear these rap [ __ ] saying my hook and i'm just like damn they could put me on the record but they redid the hook the check comes and i'm like oh yeah i'm good right i don't want to be i don't want to be on the record i'm saying so then my name started moving around like yo yo because some [ __ ] have businesses and entities they don't have the time to sit down and craft the hot 16. so that's where somebody like me come in because we hear these funny stories like rico love and uh you know my friend called dad uh and you know they're very honorable too right but that's i always wanted to know like like how does that happen so you're saying that was the first time all right so what your your words spread that yo right so now i'm like oh i'm gonna just send this cd to whoopty with the womb and they like yo who wrote this like oh you know um the [ __ ] skills from virginia oh yeah yeah not a [ __ ] [ __ ] pull up so it was it was getting me indoors that i might not have been able to get in before i tell you something i'll tell you something and i blew this up well pharrell um icicle with perel sessions and he used to have whole records for people and i used to be like oh with the verses i said oh [ __ ] you're gonna kill this and he's like it's not for me yeah but it'd be him referenced out yeah oh you mean him him doing it yeah he said it he said plenty of them floating around yeah i brew it up here plenty of them is that how you do it like yo just send them some but my thing is and i write i write you know i started with hip-hop but [ __ ] i didn't done like [ __ ] you know r b records pop records so after a while it's like i i might reference the whole thing but then just leave something for the artist if they want to hop in right to make it their own and make it their own like leave the bridge open leave the second verse open you know what i'm saying what did you think i'm sorry i'll cut you off i'm going around what did you think about when you heard drake reference tracks it was bound to happen sooner or later what do you mean by that like they was going to come out you know what i'm saying like because at the end of the day [ __ ] like us we cared and in 97 98 we gave a [ __ ] and [ __ ] you tell me rock him didn't write microphone i'm knocking all this [ __ ] the [ __ ] off but these kids today like they don't [ __ ] care like [ __ ] don't even have they don't even have a proper place to go look to find the credits does that matter doesn't matter a hit record matters a hit record matters who wrote it don't [ __ ] matter in 2021 damn you ain't even righteous [ __ ] cool it matters who gets the check though i'm gonna be honest with you this is how i knew i was on the fence a little bit one of my craziest records that i love is with easy easy ice cube right to rhymes that i say and i grew up the whole time not knowing how violation that actually was yeah the thing easy actually said it said it in 88. everybody knew easy wasn't a rapper i'm gonna be honest one i was scared of nwa yeah you scared it because you get to see i thought compton was jailed like regular right because all right again it's funny i was like oh [ __ ] i don't want to i got arrested one time don't take me to compton you know 11. but it made it notorious when now how how is it i look at easy as a great and he said that how is it i look at dr dre as a great and he said that how is it looking i look at the kid if i write rhymes i write checks puff i look at him and say great but if i found out that malice wrote man skills rhymes right i get it why is that because we because we you know what it is we still at some point we still want to believe [ __ ] you know i'm saying like when when i understand pre-pre spotify [ __ ] when i went to best buy and i spent 18 on your [ __ ] cd and i got in the car and put that [ __ ] in i still believed some of it right like we believe like you said i believe if i went to compton and i wasn't right i believed i would get robbed out the gate like [ __ ] made us believe everything else so that the lifestyle and the [ __ ] came along with it and what you got to understand is when you put out that kind of [ __ ] that's what's going to come back to you yeah i never forget og told me like yo like [ __ ] say yo make rhymes for who you want to see in the hotel lobby after your show who told you that og in philly i did a show with the roots and me and my dj in the lobby drinking and the [ __ ] like he's sitting there that's him and [ __ ] said yo you know who told me that can't rest one he said watch what you watch what you say because you're attractive yeah on the record i'm sorry then [ __ ] said yo um what y'all do i said yo i rap he was like you make music i said yeah he just did the electric factory she was sold out what did you mean he's like hey let me tell you something young blood and he got up out of the goddamn his great leave [ __ ] walked off and tapped me on the shoulder he said yo make records for who you want to see in the lobby after your show and i said why the [ __ ] i ain't been making records for [ __ ] this whole time because that's at my show after my show i get [ __ ] that want to talk about why drive car quest broke up and what's my top five like i don't get like i might get women but not like ll you know what i'm saying i don't either but you don't think it's the difference between who considers themselves a rapper versus an mc or you think that's going too deep that might be a little deep because as some you know after a while it's like [ __ ] can't really gauge the difference between the two you know what i'm saying like the lights get blurred yeah the lines definitely get blurry between who's living it and who ain't and then it's like who cares all right like like these [ __ ] ain't breakdancing thing right you graffiti [ __ ] about this you're definitely not doing nothing you're definitely not doing none of that i did everything just to do it i did i did too i did it too i had my [ __ ] my first my first rap name was [ __ ] corny as [ __ ] my first rap name was mc yahoo with the ball to be and it's true he says it all the time i'm glad it didn't work out my first name was the funky orator that's kind of hot entertainment yeah it's just me trying to keep as much of the bread as i could okay okay you know they wouldn't spit it out i feel like all of us went through everything yeah everybody everybody everybody was land speed before that right when it was right after this was i think it was at the gym got it popping yeah we fly high yeah you know what we don't get your shadows but you get did he put out [ __ ] through there no i think that was the original the reason no landscape i'm talking about shout out papa dear lance 50 dragged it after right like thank you sir he dragged me we're gonna do some shots man kill us in god water man this is not water challenge i'm doing white grapeshot i'm doing right great yeah we got we got to shout out the organic food kings oh yes i just ate all the guys that's incredible we got the truck outside at organic food kings make sure you check them out we're gonna be eating them all the time right now it's the same [ __ ] logo no it's different color bruh really that's what it's bootleg which one is bootleg so what would you say oh yeah yeah damn hold it all you got you still got your [ __ ] pit [ __ ] they they cut you a checklist that's why it's right go back to q-tip was this pre or post the beef with with uh wrecks and effects posts so how was that anything weird because that's virginia again and zulu had to get involved that [ __ ] was crazy like nah it was um you know because rex in effect was hauling but they was running around in virginia beach with teddy um you know i think they i think they took offense to something that uh fife said fife says strictly hardcore tracks not a new jack swing god bless god bless fight oh man and they thought they felt some kind of way about it um yeah but i think they uh they jumped them with some [ __ ] and um yeah he had the the patch in the video they said that had sex on a platform i don't know but that's that's the thing we talked about it with them we talked about it with trump oh [ __ ] i didn't know that very instrumental in you know i'm running around with him and like i said after i when i met him after the night after um the jack the rapper [ __ ] he gave me his number okay so i get back home and my my mom said yo um like two weeks later my mom says yo somebody named rip calls you i'm like who she's like somebody named rip i don't know he left a message on the answer machine so i go hit the button on the answer machine and i hear yo you know what i'm saying this one this this tip you know i'm saying hey yo hey yo i want to know son like how far you live from hampton virginia hit me up so i get off the phone i'm like yo this [ __ ] is crazy like my [ __ ] life could change so i called [ __ ] back he asked me how far i lived from virginia from hampton which is down there by the show ahead of me right i go to the show and i've been with him i have been done a couple shows with all in va i go to this show and they will let me freestyle at the end over uh god lives through the beat for god lives through so we we do it let's get my man with me we leaving we leaving about to ride back to richmond down down the highway this [ __ ] comes up behind me with [ __ ] silver galoshes then he has silver goggles on his head a silver donna carrying [ __ ] jacket some black pants and some silver donna karen [ __ ] rain boots and [ __ ] says yo man weren't you just on stage with tipping them and i was like yeah and he was like yo i gotta i gotta meet him man you gotta introduce me and and while we stand there talking i'm living this [ __ ] like yo this [ __ ] is weird as [ __ ] the tour bus is at the light blinker blinker on [ __ ] about to move and i'm sitting there looking at this [ __ ] and he like yo you i said yo you rap he said yeah i said what's your name he said magnum the verb lord i said oh okay so i start beatboxing my man starts [ __ ] rapping these [ __ ] rapping about the planets and they they want to keith murray [ __ ] and that was [ __ ] for real wow what was his name again magnum the verb lord that was his rap name wow i'm glad that he didn't work out for him yeah that was not a good name with the government but super ill like that's how that's the first time i met pharrell so uh i want to get back to that but i want to ask you something you said you was freestyling right right does a freestyle really have to be a freestyle ah the age-old conversation i would say a freestyle could be two things it could be a rhyme you never heard or it could be something made up impromptu right on the spot right that's that's the only two that's gonna go that way otherwise it's a written right um some [ __ ] were skilled at making it sound like i came up with it on the spot i was real good at that i'm throwing some [ __ ] around the room and then i go into a little bit of red 16 bucks [ __ ] like i was real good at that i don't think it matters as long as it's dope right you know i'm saying because at certain times it's like [ __ ] will go to rap city let's say you go see tigger right like [ __ ] got cam there they got gymnast they doing all these tapings [ __ ] ac is ready to do his [ __ ] like [ __ ] like it's no point of going in the booth with tigger and trying to freestyle that [ __ ] it's just going to 18 million homes right spit it out better be popular nobody's going to give a [ __ ] if you fumble they going back then this [ __ ] fumbled in the booth sound like you shot them up like what's the point so i feel like i feel like you know what it is it's like a dunk okay but it's still two points for two points no matter how good it looks no matter how good it looks like a shot to that it's doing two points come on you take it already and this show we celebrate [ __ ] longevity within 10 years they want to keep people out of the game we celebrate our [ __ ] legends i like that so i'm gonna get ready for the next one already when i listen to you when i listen to you it's like every single line matters to you right you think that's a plus or or a card to a certain extent because if i missed one thing i could miss a whole truth the whole concept of this of this so what did you think about years later i mean when i listened back to my old raps and [ __ ] it's almost like i was super [ __ ] confident and cocky and but who was it and he was the head of the team like that was my whole thing and you know um going back and forth you know from virginia to new york riding up another turnpike trying to get on like we knew that we couldn't just be average right i'm saying like we had to [ __ ] be good you just get to stand out life like yeah so that's how i ended up being like yo where you from [ __ ] like and i'm like i'm from virginia the answer was always fright from where right ain't no [ __ ] like that at va like y'all [ __ ] i'm like all right [ __ ] like try me yeah i'm saying you're like so that was my whole mmo like back then but yeah now man it just it just it just went that way because because like i said it's just like like it's every single line right it's thought to start out like it's like and we'll articulate it right right because i wanted people to understand what i was saying you know what i'm saying and like the mumble [ __ ] came later like we you know we made sure [ __ ] could understand what the [ __ ] we were saying like for the most part you know i mean like that's what it was so are you like mumble rapper you oh listen man i feel like i always like the music gonna do what the youth is doing but wait a second hold up and say you're gonna tell me that there's an artist out there saying i do mumble rap yeah yeah come on man what [ __ ] says i'm mumble rap yeah there's even girls claiming uh like uh dancehall i mean that's one thing to call it mumble rap but they're going out there saying that's my [ __ ] i'm a mumble rapper backpack was a bad turn yeah and then like tyler owned it that's different man that's a little different because what it is what it is is that for them it's about the feeling for us it's about the it was about the content they just they just care about what feel good the music gonna do what the kids gonna do bro right you know i'm saying like that's just what it is like the one thing that i hate about the new generation which blows me over blows me over right i accept them but i do hate this part about right they'll sit there and make a record like uh michael jordan they'll make a 23 right they'll make up mike tyson [ __ ] you want around when mike tyson wants to go it's not going to be right you want around what jordan was playing right and why not study your own crap right why not go out there and know who melly mel is to know who grand master cast is no cool herc is you know what i'm saying i i and maybe i went too far because they know who uh uh uh annoying is i kid you not i went to sunday service one time and i see incredible just walk we looked at crevo we looked it up i think they make eye contact with none of us it was me the kiss and [ __ ] fat jokes i looked at oh i said okay he ain't necessarily neither so i ain't taking it personally because what i'm trying to say is i could easily like rebel could easily say oh i don't even know who it is and i would have to respect that right i would have been i would have been disappointed but you had to respect i don't have to respect that because i remember certain people that i didn't know when hip hop came before me right and i wanted to study them right right but this so what do you feel like in that situation that was but but real quick the culture taught us to dig in the crates they taught us to respect the elders even though we weren't from that we weren't from the milly mill grand master flash work era but we knew those were the architects the pioneers and even though we didn't listen to them every day right we respected where they came from we didn't continue that i'm saying like our generation because i put it in the connotation of like a car like so say i had a i got a car i had it in the 90s and it was mine me and you was [ __ ] in the car we was banging a lot of mob deep a lot of [ __ ] tribes professor [ __ ] was hard i liked that i gave so i gave the car to my son right it's his car now he'll give a [ __ ] about the car the [ __ ] dogging the [ __ ] out of the car but it's his car now i see him pulling the driveway i'm looking at it i'm like yo [ __ ] like [ __ ] your back tire yo you got a slow leak like [ __ ] you crank it up i'm like you like somebody missing he's not taking care of the cup right but it's his car now yeah so we got to just step back and let these young [ __ ] have it that's a great right none of this [ __ ] is really us so we have a still choice if we borrow the car but we give him the car right i agree with you because i'm gonna tell i'm gonna tell him if he borrowed i'm gonna say yo you better take care that [ __ ] is gonna die on you and then when this [ __ ] died on him i just gotta go i told you [ __ ] like he [ __ ] the car all right or you borrow the car back and get an oil change for him yes and say i'm only riding this on sunday's [ __ ] my [ __ ] man what's my favorite um era of hip-hop late late 80s no no no late 80s early 90s okay so 89 yeah i think that's the best i think we come up with that answer like that's that was listen bro we had some [ __ ] ups back then but it was it was it was beautiful man like you know what i'm saying like [ __ ] was getting it 89 and 93 everything was [ __ ] bumping everything sounded good everybody was making quality [ __ ] [ __ ] was making other [ __ ] get back people were still sampling which music sounded amazing like [ __ ] was hearing other [ __ ] and then like nah nah i gotta go get my [ __ ] right yeah i'm saying that we didn't try to sound like you know no that was the thing you couldn't sound like anything [ __ ] i could go to a show in [ __ ] 90 and it'll be too short krs-1 [ __ ] digital underground epmd like all these [ __ ] on the same bill like now you can never do no [ __ ] like that you couldn't have [ __ ] migos on the same bill with j cole this [ __ ] wouldn't make sense yeah i don't see that i go i would but the kids wouldn't probably understand like so it's a different area i hate the way they they can't mesh now because because back then like [ __ ] and that ever like you you was just a nice [ __ ] for them i kind of like what was doing with king's disease he kind of like put the the with him like i said like then he can do no wrong bro like he's nas can't do no wrong like he's a [ __ ] god in this rap [ __ ] all right you know what i'm saying love him love him so how did um i cuz you were signing the timberland at one point yeah you already said that yes how did you guys hook up though how did that initially because you know was it just a virginia thing or was uh okay yo yo you're not a [ __ ] in like he manages [ __ ] do real estate i think he man he was managing artists for a while but google to where i'm from the city i'm from to come to the show [ __ ] puff is killing this there's no way out all right biggie has passed and the [ __ ] puff is mashing i'm backstage [ __ ] d-dot the locks mace we shooting dice and [ __ ] and i see magoo in the hallway and he like yo [ __ ] what you doing and i'm like i said i can't see [ __ ] puff daddy [ __ ] like [ __ ] he's like yo who you went now when your new [ __ ] coming i say yo now like i ain't no big b no more like that's just junior my feet out [ __ ] like i'm i'm chilling i'm a free agent he said [ __ ] you ain't got no deal i said nah he said [ __ ] you got me too i'm like okay so [ __ ] introduces me to town you didn't grow up with tim i thought no he introduces me to tim i see missy i see tim and and magoo is like pressing him like no [ __ ] this is the [ __ ] he got to be with us like this [ __ ] don't got no deal that's blasphemy he needs to be with us so tim like aye i cool come to the studio tomorrow and [ __ ] i drive to virginia beach meets him we do like seven songs like in one day and from then on it was i was with him and that's how i ended up hyped man and for missy right and that's when i started watching the songwriting process because missy don't even have a deal and the [ __ ] lambo is purple you know what i'm saying the jews is trump and i'm sitting there like what am i doing wrong before you start ghostwriting mariah carey's in the studio janet jackson coming down here like stilo 702 aaliyah [ __ ] and i'm just like yo and she don't even want a deal she like nah [ __ ] i don't want no record deal all right and [ __ ] missy is is killing him and she was like yo i gotta do this show cause she hated doing shows she was um mona mona was amazing and she hated doing shows because she was a studio rack so she like yo skills is coming me do this show cause she knew i could remember all of the words so missy hopped on stage and the thing was when she looked to me that was my cue to finish the rhyme because i don't remember this [ __ ] like so she she'll missy be putting it down i'm the highest round i told your mother y'all just like me now and then i'm less than 20 friends and she's like that's what i was there for i told missy for a while but i learned right like missy was [ __ ] amazing with that [ __ ] bro come on come on you gotta turn it up let's turn up salute yeah missy was amazing that's what you got to get on missy and let's just be clear in my personal career like virginia changed my life and let's be clear i was the hot dude at the time when i met pharrell pharrell you met me and was like yo listen you listen to me we're gonna go number one he acts like he's he's knocked down he has a little humble now right but he was cocky back there i you're not just closing your album without me on it i was like yes although you know what i believe this little guy like he had a chocolate chocolate he was mad tight you know his clothes he came in the game with tight clothes facts that's so crazy like um you you have like you have a really rich hip-hop story and so bouncing around moving around how did did you come up with the wrap-up um i was i was in uh i was in baltimore in my family's crib and um i did a mixtape uh best of i was doing mixtapes because tim was popping at the time forever i did the best of neptune's mixtape wow right i'm rapping over your [ __ ] i'm rapping over grinding i'm rapping over a model lover all the hard [ __ ] that i couldn't get i did a beat over i did a joint over roscoe be cold train [ __ ] and my man says yo uh my manchester he said yo you should rap over that comment come close [ __ ] and i was like [ __ ] they just don't even know foreign what happened to that boy you're like nah [ __ ] you should do that and i'm sitting there and i'm watching tv and it was just uh it was 2002 it was just they was talking about the year end whatever whatever so i go all right so [ __ ] i'll rap about everything that's about to happen at the end of the year and if a [ __ ] get to the end of the mixtape you'll get a little surprise or whatever and i put the [ __ ] at the end so i put the [ __ ] at the end this was right when internet was popping and my man put it on his website he called me the next day he said yo man i gotta i think i have to get more bandwidth i was like the [ __ ] is bandwidth right he said yo like [ __ ] and then radio starts playing this [ __ ] right and they playing the wrap up and i'm like nah [ __ ] play the grinding freestyle like i body that [ __ ] like [ __ ] like they're not playing none of that they playing the over the common come close and then the [ __ ] starts burning that radio and then it comes back around to 2003 [ __ ] say yo you're gonna do another wrap-up next year i'm like what i call that [ __ ] the o2 freestyle he's like no you gotta do one more like for this year that [ __ ] was hot and i'm like all right [ __ ] it so i did another one and then the [ __ ] just started turning into something else i'm saying like that's the one song [ __ ] won't let me not do yeah you still enjoy doing them though i do but it's definitely it feels like an obligation it definitely feels like you're saying it definitely feels like a a [ __ ] like [ __ ] one but but to think about it um to have something well to have something that's your own that people only want from you right and this day and age in our career is super [ __ ] we we that's like all [ __ ] begging me about that [ __ ] like [ __ ] they still want that [ __ ] every easter my fans want me to drop a norista because i just give them experience listen give it to him okay so now i gotta let's take a shot let's take a shot let's take a shot then we're gonna take a shot solo salute let's get it so you you you do this wrap up you make the wrap up everyone knows the year end we skills gonna come through we're gonna wrap up the year gonna make us laugh and he might come out a couple of people too right you come out of people with you if you walk purple rig this is a rapper right and all of a sudden you hear a different rapper what happens like oh the new york wrap up no listen is this the new york rapper no no this is a new york rapper i don't know oh [ __ ] i know i knew that's his real name oh he's talking about the lady [ __ ] alright so what happened the first year he dropped it were you offended the first year or how did this how did this discrepancy start i understand like i've been doing this [ __ ] 19 years right a rapper it's yes it's [ __ ] it's a it's a it's a malaysian wrap up it's a hong kong wrap up it's a uk wrap up [ __ ] tina fey did a dirty rock wrap up you got franchises i've written wrap ups for the wire [ __ ] espn sports center like all this [ __ ] so when the [ __ ] did it i'm used to it uh vine was popping youtubes [ __ ] doing [ __ ] all over but most [ __ ] would be like yo this is the song so wrap up shot my man mad skills they knew they was biting right like but it was the show love right for lenny cause i'm i'm petty fellaini it was he did it and it was like [ __ ] [ __ ] so i'm like so let me let me give you an analogy i've been in the game long time yes 19 years old i feel like zeno was calling at the negative time for the right person hold on hold on but zeno we in a negative moment drink chances what does that mean we had a negative moment in drink chances you're caught up here huh where you at well don't hurt nobody we're gonna hit you soon as we finish all right i got you my bro all right my bad continue so cause i saw what you said um won't y'all do it together yes bust this i i've been in the game a long time yes 20 years i know a lot of [ __ ] i started a podcast hip-hop confessions 10 years ago right let's say i say yo i call dr dre like yo i want you to be on my podcast he like all right [ __ ] it [ __ ] let's do it i call i call andre 3 000 go yo [ __ ] imma get andre 3 000 and [ __ ] dr dre on my [ __ ] podcast record this [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy next week i put the [ __ ] on youtube [ __ ] stupid and it's called link champs y'all [ __ ] cool with that no not really exactly exactly i can't call my [ __ ] what y'all call y'all [ __ ] this this drink champs i can't start link champs next week and [ __ ] i start you you go on youtube and you see me sitting at a table with a bunch of licking it i know yo what'd it do what it is right so what i'm saying is what i'm saying is and what i'm saying is it's almost like that's the new york wrap up like it is what it is i i i don't i'm petty it is what it is like but he was the first [ __ ] to be like [ __ ] me on my [ __ ] i can't how did that stop rap and i heard you and clark kent i heard clark kent made a call to you or made a call to him and you guys got on the phone at one point me and him never talked on the phone oh i can't call me o.g i'm like what's up og he like yo i listen you know you know you know lenny my youngin right i said yeah all right cool he said yeah all right so i know he do what he do he do what he do his [ __ ] funny you're on some right right [ __ ] just in the third like i was thinking if y'all [ __ ] did this [ __ ] together i said club [ __ ] is wrong with you [ __ ] he was like what you mean i said clark would you call hove and say 21 savage you want to do 22 tools which like it don't make sense i wouldn't take a picture with that [ __ ] so i [ __ ] i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm not [ __ ] with it but i'm not saying nothing and every year it's [ __ ] man skills [ __ ] man skills no i gotta disagree with that i didn't hear you no [ __ ] he didn't of course he did but i think there was an actual uh interview where you was like correct me if i'm wrong where murder was saying he wasn't really claiming it and then you did an interview and he was like yeah i didn't really like it someone went to what you're saying then and then that's what he said i said i said in one song maybe 2017 i said a lot of [ __ ] doing wrap ups [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] ain't helping y'all [ __ ] whatever he felt like i took a shot right this 27 this 2018 i get a call i get a job at a university [ __ ] i'm teaching at a college let's make some noise for your sport they gonna give me a lot of jobs right i have a class i'm a professor at this point i'm like i'm gonna do the wrap up this year i'm gonna knock it down i say yo i ain't gonna say no about lenny unless he say something about me song come out yo this is 2018 wrap up [ __ ] that [ __ ] bad skill [ __ ] yo blah blah blah it starts rapping so i go i'ma check this [ __ ] right now totally i [ __ ] i put out this [ __ ] and i'm gonna tell you what happened i'm writing the wrap up i'm in the studio writing the rapper got my notes right in the wrapper i get a dm from lenny graham that says i ain't mean to take your [ __ ] but you the pg version i'm rated all [ __ ] plus you whack anyway i said i'm going to lyrically kick this [ __ ] in the [ __ ] the [ __ ] says yo i ain't gonna take your [ __ ] you're the pg version i'm the r version plus you fell off anyway my g i said i'm gonna check this [ __ ] now all right all right i take i take the dm and make the d i put out a song called murdergram demolish this [ __ ] okay demolish them over murdergram [ __ ] [ __ ] uh i put the song out and everybody go to the beef because the wrap-ups is done [ __ ] don't care about the rap they're like oh [ __ ] [ __ ] mad skills and this [ __ ] going at it they've been they've been tossing it back and forth for years [ __ ] i bodied this [ __ ] over murder graham and made the dm the cover art for the single because i didn't want [ __ ] to back why are you dissing them now oh you posted it look at that it's just called the shit's called uh it's called murder graham okay i started the [ __ ] i told the whole story um uh i said [ __ ] want to kill me but ain't got the heart um so i'm gonna pick the mic back up for this walk in the park and i don't want credit for this this ain't nothing i'm just answering a [ __ ] that kept pressing my buttons uncle murder what's all the fuss about [ __ ] keep my [ __ ] name out your brown ass mouth clark kent your man about to hold his hell so roast some weed i got a story to tell and i tell the whole [ __ ] how clock hit me say yo y'all should link up this is that third body i'm waiting you know how united this will rap in 2020 2018. [ __ ] took like two weeks and it wasn't a worthy response and that's when i realized i'm not beefing with a [ __ ] to care about rap i'm beefing with a [ __ ] that care about attention we different i'm different i'm from a different class so for me i'm like i saw you had him here right probably was a slow day i'm petty it's definitely not fun no respectfully i'm not i'm respectfully petty you go you're going in i'm respectful but i got love for him like i got love for him but because and i jumped out the window to do some this [ __ ] and i was like he don't want to do that he just he just want people to pay attention to what he doing and i get it that [ __ ] works sometimes she'll work for 50 right 002 right it's 20 21 like so i did it it was what it was but [ __ ] i'm like i'm teaching a class so i'm a world star at the same time at a [ __ ] faculty meeting like this [ __ ] weird and i'm trying to push this into the [Music] i'm at the crib right my daughter my daughter works at a daycare she's like 25 years old she comes into the house she's like hey i said hey what's up she said um so one of my students uh parents came in and apparently you made a diss song i was like i said i mean this song she was like so no they come in and they go yo your no no i know about the rapper she like you got a diss record [ __ ] so i'm sitting there i say i say yo the [ __ ] kept saying my name like correct she's like let me hear it i like no no no she's like dad let me hear you so i'm like [ __ ] i have to play my daughter my distraction i hit the button the [ __ ] come with murder ground boom boom boom hard ass beat and she listened to it and i'm just sitting there like and i'm [ __ ] going i'm like lenny grant [ __ ] your name scientist should be on the side of a funeral home [ __ ] like [ __ ] you signed a g-unit 10 years too late i'm going to [ __ ] him and my daughter's listening to it and i'm just sitting there like [ __ ] embarrassed and she stops and she she goes so don't you have a class tomorrow i said yeah she's a dad what are you doing i said yo but you gotta understand like nothing like [ __ ] don't never disrespect so when she said it i'm sitting there and i'm like damn like i'm playing a disc song for my daughter at late 40s this [ __ ] feels weird you know what i'm saying like but but the whole you know the whole idea i got debo like [ __ ] i'm from virginia [ __ ] ain't ain't nobody never took nothing from me but l like period so it's the new york rapper well this is a shock to y'all working it out i hope y'all work you know we might work it out yeah if y'all let me do link champs is that something that's a problem in hip-hop it's just like like you know i see i see the whole me walking in my homie i'm sleeping homie and i was such a fan of snoop right but i never wanted to do nothing snoop did because i felt like that was him yeah something that's a problem in hip-hop is that people actually see something that they like and they imitate damien now because the gatekeepers don't call it what it is like [ __ ] you didn't take nothing [ __ ] you bit it right let's keep it being you ain't i'm from virginia [ __ ] ain't nobody never took nothing from me you bit it right like i can't [ __ ] i can't come out tomorrow and make an album called the world report i wouldn't like that exactly like i can't i can't go to virginia and get some [ __ ] and say yo we're going to start a new clip they like what's the name like yours [ __ ] call it dip set all right like [ __ ] now [ __ ] like at some point somebody gotta say that [ __ ] ain't cool my [ __ ] like and he this [ __ ] like he lenny old i'm petty lenny old enough to know he liked he old enough to know that i respect difference my younger but he's actually playing into the game not just being a definite advocate keeping he's actually playing into the game and the game is brooklyn has always been known for brooklyn keeps on taking yeah well brooklyn ain't taking [ __ ] from a [ __ ] like me i'm from virginia like it's not i'm just saying you can't you can't just take something from me like it's gonna come with something when i checked them for i was expecting a response and then when i get a worthy response i was like damn like i'm not even going at it with a [ __ ] that's respectable like it's not sad but ain't kissed it's not you know what i'm saying like you know what i mean i named 20 brooklyn [ __ ] in the song that i would rather battle than him like [ __ ] it was crazy i was talking cash out wild i was definitely wild do you regret that oh no absolutely not oh okay why wait it's all in the game you know what i'm saying this hip-hop is what we do it was fun to spawn with a [ __ ] for a minute also and then when i realized he really wants spa he just wanted the attention i was like we different i'm not i'm not chasing attention but is there a world where all these wrap-ups do exist where everyone is is cordial or this is what he said where they're paying him homage where they're paying respect for where it came from that's what he said before 2002 nobody was making a yearly recap of what happened i invented that [ __ ] and i'm not tripping like like i said i'm not tripping youtube [ __ ] doing all day half the cast on wilding out made wrap ups but it was always like something [ __ ] mad skills like and kept it moving like we gotta call a biter biter but i gotta i gotta i gotta just be the devil's advocate do you know how many people call themselves live and they don't give me no respect i feel that i ain't there you know how many people they there's actually gangs calling themselves yes and you know how slime got invented let me just tell you how i'm gonna fit it my boy daryl easy said i'm gonna go to the store to get a pepperdine sandwich do you want anything and pepperdine sounds like pepperoni to me so i said no the homie came back in the studio with a turkey and cheese i said that's not pepperoni he said i said pepperdine not pepperoni and i said look give me half and he said he was a slime ass [ __ ] i just opened you a sandwich and i took this [ __ ] and from that day on we called each other's life right right simple as that there's games called slime yeah they don't salute me right this young dog this [ __ ] got his whole career he has never said big up nori not what now mind you this is this goes back i got a good point y'all that was a good point right yes this goes back to what i said earlier [ __ ] don't care about who first right but we do right yeah i'm saying we the type [ __ ] like yo like yo who got you in the hip-hop i'm gonna tell you the first [ __ ] i listened to they got me started on [ __ ] i'm not gonna disrespect them i'm not gonna say nothing crazy about them like we gotta call a spade a spade at some point because otherwise [ __ ] just start acting loose like it's not trolling my [ __ ] let's call it what it is you lying for attention if i do something dumb for attention that's called lying for attention it's not called trolling my [ __ ] but but let me [ __ ] fall even better let me represent for the new generation too what if the news generation just didn't know where that came from right the church right but he ain't new right it's true like i can see i gotta show you if you're somebody 21 like yo i see [ __ ] like yo i'm the new [ __ ] you know what i'm saying we call weed broccoli i'm like [ __ ] that's like [ __ ] what you doing that's e40 man yeah like that [ __ ] was 91. or the moment they find out then you know speaking of the broccoli say hey look little [ __ ] i had this [ __ ] like one of the most illest one of the nicest guys i've ever met but we got to call a spade a spade at some point yeah who's one of the nicest guys e40 yeah see if the water's around yeah i'm saying so wait a minute so we're going we're going to get no you don't want to work it out you're saying you don't want to work it out not on a wrap-up how about this this is a crazy thing right dude passed away right dude passed away on for my hood so do for my hood come home from jail says hey man i want to diss you on the record and i said for what he said because i think that's the way i have to get on corny [ __ ] is up corny so i told him i said because i knew he was just coming home from jail he's just rapping he think he's deaf real [ __ ] all the people all right listen that's pretty good though i said let's do it together on the stage i want you to dis like that i was saying it's like the hell [ __ ] no no this is different i don't want you disney in my face and then i'm gonna diss you in your face but i'ma also show you i'm a rapper right and it never happened right do you think like it's it's something like that that can be happening with you guys like a face off on the same tracks on the sage oh in the same studio i need to get bodied man okay he he's not he up here like he ain't a rapper like that he's more like he like a comedian you know what i'm saying like that's how i look at him i think i think i think uncle murders though i think i'm a murderer still that's cool right that's cool that's your man's i get it like i get it i don't think you dope it's not and i appreciate it no no not at all but i'm just saying for me it's like it just don't feel like hip-hop to me right you know what i'm saying like but to me it does feel like hip-hop that's good you just want to see some drama yeah ultimately because that's what i said i think you all should do the track together i do feel like yeah i think i like yesterday you were saying first yeah you were saying i was thinking i'll just do the track together it's like me saying i think i should be whenever he drinks himself like maybe when he hears what how you're saying it here maybe it may be different i wish the brother know it will man like we did what we did like i thought it was fun i thought i know you called him like yo [ __ ] keep it going like yeah i did i think it's the first time i did i didn't say that i didn't that's why i felt guilty because the first time i heard i was like alright cool how did you think it was no malice tortures for the first one i don't have that kind of time bro i don't have 15 minutes to listen to a [ __ ] rap right right maybe you do right right ah yeah yeah a little bit i'm petty uh [Applause] i'm going to the barber shop my barber like yo look like [ __ ] what's up with your man though and i'm like yeah no i'm chilling you know i'm saying that like nah [ __ ] like if you would have told me in 96 97 when i was [ __ ] going back and forth to new york trying to get on that a [ __ ] from de burro would take something from a [ __ ] from virginia to be relevant i would have been like [ __ ] what like [ __ ] y'all are the mecca to us right we always felt like we had to prove our way you know what i'm saying i remember going to [ __ ] to the uh the sheik loots feral monster video right and pharaoh uh k slays outside the drama i was the biggest [ __ ] in the world and i'm like yo i walk up to casey i'm like yo man you know i think it's graf papoose some other [ __ ] i said yo man i get on the drama album any [ __ ] said i mean [ __ ] i mean you gotta be nice [ __ ] ain't look at me like you gotta be nice i'm like dave trying to say ain't nice he's like i'm just saying you gotta be nice so i go to raucous like [ __ ] i gotta get on the [ __ ] drum out [ __ ] i don't know [ __ ] how y'all make it happen it's a street [ __ ] howie mcduffie he's like nah [ __ ] i'll make you happy yeah look at jake yeah colleen mcduffie so how he finagles it to where me most and pharaoh and this new [ __ ] that they got go up to the drama hour and this is where raucous was kind of [ __ ] like damn ruggers might be the next [ __ ] death jam this [ __ ] kind of bubbling you know what i'm saying we go to the drama out i never got rapped over in the club i rap over in the club body this [ __ ] and the [ __ ] k slay goes yo when he's talking to the [ __ ] malachi the [ __ ] used to do the ball right he said yo malachi like real talk that that might be the hottest freestyle [ __ ] ever set up here b and i'm just like yes [ __ ] like i'm not no [ __ ] cornball i guess [ __ ] busy like so we always had to go to new york to prove ourselves you know this conversation i'm about to get into which one no i don't [Music] are you one of the south guys oh come on come on man i feel like new york don't show love to the south and i want you to be cause we talk about this a lot cause i talk about the miami perspective right when y'all focus and i'm putting y'all in the category of the south can i get another show virginia get another shot so here's where i get offended because me personally i don't have the experience that a lot of these top people like i said i was going to virginia together like that's what i'm trying to say to you so and in my opinion me and this guy because he he loves man goddammit but what i'm saying is i feel like a lot of the south guys are wrong for paying attention to what was not shown to you guys as opposed to what the love was you know what i don't make no sense to you what is it meaning meaning a lot of times you guys sit around and you say you know what new york can't give love this guy didn't get love but how about the hoes how about the noise how about the people who was embraced in the south who was going back but i took a fat joke but i said this a bunch of times on drink checks i love this first of all i said it was the industry was the biggest problem the inner workings of the industry you know y'all kept it to yourselves not you maybe not fast not the individual artist that's what i needed to hear yeah that's that's it y'all understand y'all are the mecca so [ __ ] i remember going to the new music seminar as a rock steady in the park just trying to get respect from y'all because new york was the mecca so when [ __ ] stretching barbito told me i was dope the guy was dope well [ __ ] q-tip told me i was dope i was dope you know what i'm saying like so it's like when the [ __ ] switches if the source wrote about you the sources when the [ __ ] switched it was like we all we gave so much love to y'all a lot of us felt like [ __ ] like [ __ ] outcasts on the sword stage like damn like or or snoop like that y'all love us we all understood that like you know what i'm saying we all feel andrei that's a whole different thing but i understand but i mean it was all in the same place or the artist it's not personally miami since the 90s oh no you've been coming out here doing a lot of work south really shouldn't have that complaint because [ __ ] or anything everybody can't speak for us bro everybody from the east coast grandmother had a tie to the south yes yeah okay i understand so this is what i'm trying to tell you even from the west coast facts we all kind of came from the south slavery to the south big fans and then so that's what i'm saying i feel like y'all always judge that for young people young people who didn't travel as much like there's no way i could go to atlanta like i went to uh 112 what was that [ __ ] yeah how are we leaving new york if you were going to strip club in new york you were wankster right and i was out there and they had like they said those three things you don't do in a strip club you don't tip you don't eat and you don't [ __ ] yeah my first week in miami i broke all three of those grooves the first day i like [ __ ] and he killed him he ate that [ __ ] at the same time shot the rings out and tipped every [ __ ] in there it was crazy it was great but that's what i noticed see in new york it wasn't recalling you alabamas we were saying that you know it was a different people it was our different cousins because you gotta remember y'all are cousins we're all family members right you understand what i'm saying and and when we got to the west coast it was a little different too but the south honestly is all of our grandmothers have um i think you're talking about different things man no what i'm saying is what i'm trying to say what i'm trying to say is people felt like east coast wasn't giving it up to the south it was always called east coast new york wasn't given to nobody and the industry lived in new york i think this is haters so you couldn't do it but you know the radio in new york let me ask you a question yes please i remember i remember watching a podcast and you was like yo when i went to l.a i was i was i was looking around i was i was making sure well i mean [ __ ] was good why was you doing that i wasn't doing it exactly exactly so for us like of course it's slow everything's slow we're not slow as texas but you know it's not just chopping screw music but you come down south should get slower but for us it was like we always showed y'all love like y'all came down and went to schools went to the hbcus you know what i'm saying like we got we got ours [ __ ] our business was that who was there everything was about y'all so it was like when it became about somebody else to see certain artists be like well we know that [ __ ] corny we're not [ __ ] with them type [ __ ] like damn like [ __ ] we we just we doing what hip hop is we rapping about what we know from where we are i'm saying like everybody ain't gonna be that you know what i'm saying so i think when when people like tim and pharrell got in the studio to make music they knew what they couldn't make we couldn't make no premiere type sound and boom back hip-hop y'all already did that we couldn't make baltimore club baltimore club was already popping couldn't make jersey house she was already done couldn't do go-go so she was already here can't do the scrutiny [ __ ] can't do the chronic [ __ ] so it's like damn [ __ ] i'ma sample this baby yeah i'm sorry i'ma sample this ill-ass noise and for tim that was the illustration i've never seen a [ __ ] sit down and beat box a [ __ ] beat and then touch the [ __ ] something and make it so the [ __ ] would sit down and go i wanted to go [Music] and the [ __ ] will find the sound that went and i'm sitting there like yo this nigga's [ __ ] crazy beatboxes oh [ __ ] i work with timberland please don't forget your story i wrote with timothy one time he was like this no this is how i want your rhyme to go look at this mario [Music] yeah because they'll have you they'll change your whole life and [ __ ] wasn't listening you know i'm saying like i ain't doing that corny that same way when phil gave you some babies like i'm not walking around with these fake ass air for once yeah i swear what happened yeah they owe me a check i don't know what's wrong probably like i was your guinea pig for two years i was walking around [ __ ] like you know ain't you getting money how you gonna have my [ __ ] fake air force once my dude those two dudes may change the face of music man and it ain't too many people that can say that they did that and for me like to be from where we from is truly something in the water right like it's not it's not just something to say that's the cause this is special and unique they made they created their own unique sounds yeah right like i feel like pharrell was the closest thing him and chad were the closest thing we ever had to having a sound yeah i'm saying but the first time you met for real what was the name of his group magnum he no it was just him he was a rapper his name was magnum the verb lord that didn't work out for him hawaiian shirt red nxs and he telling the dj yo play my record and they like yeah yeah like play my magnum yo that's my record and the dj like yeah you're not great man that's my record no no no that's my record great story i know it sounds so cliche to say it right now but from the moment i met that [ __ ] i knew he was he wasn't from earth like he he just was he was a he was different bro he was different i know it's so easy to say that now like but i i i i i wish i was lying but i'm just not just i looked at that i wish we had some purple [Music] in virginia y'all all have to be tied to each other is there an artist that you're not tied to in virginia no they can't be right no who's this new artist you've got i think we signed a pusha t uh oh kari i think his name is kari okay oh you signed on pusha t's label yeah out chris brown pharrell chris brown chris brown is from tappahannock virginia [ __ ] clips pusher malice missy magoo like bro what was the crew you were into was it um so yeah now virginia is a special place bro something really in the water it's listen it's not just something we say here it's not just molly it's it's not just probably not a lot of modeling [Music] yeah the whole first album because he did a song for the artifacts you know that was i didn't even know that he artifact he did dynamite soul remix artifacts are the first [ __ ] ever let me on a song yeah all the facts shout out to team one else sensei yeah that was a crazy actually i do remember that yeah dynamite soul so the first album from where's 1996. yes i came out on the same day as the fuji's and [ __ ] all eyes on me worst day ever since you survived sorry i don't know i don't know where it is [Music] [Music] and i was the first person that ever did this song with jay jay dillon that guy i did yeah yeah yeah because that was tips of god and that's early did you understand i'm i'm with q-tip i'm making the album and i'm like [ __ ] you on my album he like yeah nah son i got this [ __ ] you guys i said nah [ __ ] you on the album he comes to battery studios battery studio 25th street 25th street with a little small dude with a [ __ ] detroit hat on and he's talking about him the same way he talked about me to pasta news and mace and he's talking to you now about talking to me he's going your son this [ __ ] where's his butt you know he's so ill and i'm like i'm like yeah i need the q-tip beat though right he like nah i got you but listen to this [ __ ] he hits the beat he put the i still got the tape he hit the cassette put the cassette in place the cassette soon as i hit a it's cassette i'm like yeah play the next one my dumb ass i'm like play the next one next beat is uh the far side uh gotta kick something to me something i passed on running running you gotta kick something to me something drop by far another pass on that and then you get to the song that i take and i i never forget i paid him three three bands a song we did three songs i can't find the third one if i find it god please let me find that third song uh and i paid when he got paid nine g's and i remember he was in the studio in battery mixing and he was like um he said yo i never i'll never forget this and i don't care if i get as big as dr dre you'll always be able to get me for skills to look like cousins right now i spent more money on large professor songs when you look at the budget because i i had a attitude i was on r b label like 350 or some [ __ ] when you look at how much you spend on a large professor at unique studios [ __ ] insane large professor will come you need to get them on the podcast too large professor will come and just listen to records in the studio take a while in the studio i'm like my [ __ ] like we this is a 12 hour block we're on hour eight and he like putting the record and i'm sitting there looking at my you know a reflex yo i spent so much money well with large professors just listening to the songs but the knowledge that she's doing professor primo primo launch professor oh yeah i mean just based on what he's saying yeah because primo had me waiting a long time and clark kent was on the album because because because he did the demo so of course i gotta bring my og and make sure he get taken care of because he he helped me even though i was talking [ __ ] about holes at his house um he he was he was on the album yeah the album was um the album when it came out even even on the same day did not you know uh the fuji's and [ __ ] tupac came out it was in virginia it was a big thing because [ __ ] never saw please just think about it it's a plastic it's a classic first off was from where right that's where you uh all eyes on me and um but when gold but it wasn't the album is called i ain't mad no more right that's when i changed it from bad skills and skills and that's the one cause is that a ruckus that was alpha ruckus [ __ ] that whole [ __ ] up uh i think i ended up putting that [ __ ] up only the singles came out on youtube singles just folded cause they did a a fifty percent steak with mca and the whole [ __ ] i think that was when quality came out man jared and brian and jared but they was trying to get [ __ ] coogie rap to do songs with nelly and [ __ ] like they was they was wild yeah raucous was probably the last label where as soon as the [ __ ] got the record he was like oh now i'm [ __ ] with this soon as i saw the the razor the all i'm gonna give this a shot because it was raucous okay they were thinking out the box and some some of the things worked and some of the things didn't now they was killing it for a minute then so what happened with kilt walkers i mean he said mca mca got in for half and the [ __ ] went left after like i said they was trying to get kuji rap to do songs with nelly not knowing what they had you got most you got quality you got pharaoh munch like and these [ __ ] are doing numbers with no radio players yeah like i remember when simon says got on high 97 like me says get the [ __ ] that was that was crazy but raucous was no marcus was [ __ ] crazy i i remember crazy story about raucous real quick i'm i'm at conway studios in l.a not calling away the machine i'm with my girl at the time uh esther dean who's like a super big pop writer i love how you know everybody's name you don't forget nobody's name he like he describes it so great i'm sorry so i'm with i'm with esther and she goes to a session with dr luke right at this time this is that's the pop [ __ ] katy perry like [ __ ] killing the [ __ ] right so she's in there cutting her vocals i'm sitting out on the little patio dr luke comes out and he got a guitar so we just sitting there he like oh man you know how long you and you and her been dating i'm like oh you know that's my time and i was like yo you look wild familiar he was like where you from i said i'm from virginia i said where you from he was like i'm from new york i was like i said yo you ever you ever been to raucous records and this motherfucker's playing guitar [ __ ] stop he said oh raucous i was like yeah he said yeah no i used to be at raucous he was like i used to sell brian and jared they're weed and i'm like what dr luke what's up new scrap jones perry katy perry kesha so i'm like i'm like yo i saw you at raucous he was like no i i used to do like what you call it dubstep remixes he's like i do dumb euro remixes and they realize that every time that they would uh i would do a remix in the uk that [ __ ] would get bds their spins would go up he was like so i started doing remixes one and give me dads from acapella and then one day i think this is what he says that one day like uh one of the rappers are you talking to his voice right now one of the rappers left some weed in my studio and i just [ __ ] started selling them dewey and i'm sitting there going dr luke who's [ __ ] killing the game right pop gang killing it used to sell weed to [ __ ] brian and jared at raucous and then the [ __ ] looks at me he was like he's looking in the air he's playing guitar he's like raucous records he's like you think that name would like mean something now i was like what you mean he's like you know what like the emergences of like the you know the j coles and the kendricks i wonder if i just bought the name oh [ __ ] and i'm sitting there going you should've said let's be partner i was like this is crazy like super ill when like bro as far as songwriters he's he's right behind max martin which is probably the top top tier unless you know how much i know you know explain to me come on please i don't want to look it up max martin started out in 94. okay right maybe next year he was born right but he's had a hit on the charts britney spears backstreet boys taylor taylor swift ariana grande like dr lucas is his protege he took him under he's [ __ ] kesha katy perry [ __ ] had a pop run that was like songwriter of the year a gazillion times over yeah i'm saying like i pay attention to all types of songwriters you know what i'm saying so just as far as writing songs like so um when i got i when i did the nicky [ __ ] um i did the nikki song nicki minaj yeah so i did the nikki song and you can't just say nicki pop pop record maybe you could talk about nikki d i don't know first of all i ain't writing nikki raps she write all her raps little hook for nicki carter knight is still young pop record pop record comes out um and i'm i'm at home looking at this was when i think taylor swift and nikki got into a little twitter beef or whatever oh remember that [ __ ] wasn't tell us what was the other chick oh she was like and taylor swift jumped in and then they made up and then they come out at the mtv awards okay and i'm watching taylor swift on stage the mtv awards sing my words and i'm like nah [ __ ] like [ __ ] [ __ ] like us can get there you know what i'm saying like pop music is is pop music but it's still all music there's only two kinds of music get up when you see taylor swift would it happen for you if you see taylor swift singing what you wrote and you're going to be watching somebody say my [ __ ] [ __ ] man like to watch that happen as a songwriter you know i'm saying like i i i write all kinds of songs bro like i just do what i do [ __ ] uh black men don't cheat you know i'm saying for duval man yeah i'm saying i could see that i could see that i was pissed when i wrote that stuff why are you just pissed uh what happened oh i don't know if you already get another shot let's give it another shot you remember the video i don't know if you remember it was on worldstar she was viral it was this girl at mcdonald's black girl drunk white dude comes into mcdonald's starts talking crazy to her and he says something to her and the black girl just started beating his ass at mcdonald's across the country and then there's two dudes in the back like two black dudes young dudes just looking like yo like damn keisha beating the [ __ ] up just making that work and it was just an onslaught of like black women like see this this is why we don't [ __ ] with y'all y'all don't protect us why the [ __ ] is this girl at mcdonald's fighting this man and y'all [ __ ] watching y'all not helping and i'm sitting there going yo she was whipping this [ __ ] ass at no point and you know how you be at work and you gotta everybody got that person at work they're like yo don't don't [ __ ] with kevin kimmel beat your [ __ ] [ __ ] so they watching her beat his ass and black women just went crazy online it was all on the blogs and [ __ ] and i'm just sitting there watching and she's like why it's always our fault like damn what what we do so in that moment i was like yo i want to piss off every black woman in america and i wrote black men don't cheat that day all right and i was about to do the video and i'm sending the video to atheon nick cannon and i just want [ __ ] to sing the hook black men don't cheat cuz i'm like when black women see this [ __ ] they're gonna be mad as [ __ ] so i sent this [ __ ] to charlotte man charlemagne calls me like yo you know who need this record i said he said lil duval this is right after um living my best life he said yo you should sell this [ __ ] to little duval but i believe this record so hold on you telling me i'm i'm like because i thought it was real oh listen i don't t i'm a black man black boys sheep right right now here's the thing duval was being funny all right charlemagne was like nah [ __ ] this about to be the new wave i want this [ __ ] to be i want this [ __ ] to be a [ __ ] who don't cheat on his girl will be able to [ __ ] work out to this [ __ ] and say nah [ __ ] i want this [ __ ] to be a movement so i'm like y'all go ahead gave him the record you know what i'm saying and i figured it was it was it worked cause it was like it was one [ __ ] that was controversial and then one [ __ ] that was funny somebody was gonna take it as a joke but charlemagne took his super serious yeah so i was two days away from putting out black men don't cheat as bad skills and charlemagne was like yo you just give this [ __ ] to duvall regular drink ain't nothing in the peeps [Music] already i'm not sure if i did but what is your favorite part of the game music just just that but the music that's still a two-part uh answer because is it making the music or performing the music i don't really like i like djing now i'm a dj i've been djing for five years oh and the passion that i lost for rapping i gained in dj so for me it's all it's just music is the hub of all this [ __ ] i started out making music then i ended up writing music for other people um now i'm playing music you know what i'm saying instruments no no no just dj's dj like i dj heavy like cause you got acoustic on us i love um djing and the the the respect that i have for that craft because because when i'm from it's like like being from virginia we always felt like we had to we was underdogs so when i started djing i was like i don't want to be a rapper [ __ ] oh yeah he's just up there [ __ ] around like that's mad skills you know what i'm saying if you [ __ ] up like anything real decent let the [ __ ] live i wanted to be the best i wanted to be good so when [ __ ] think about rappers that used to dj i want them to think about me d nice right bismarck what i'm saying like pray yourself keep pushing through yes please um you understand i wanted to be one of those rappers that people take serious as a dj so i got in the room and started [ __ ] practicing hard body on my own mixing mixing because what you got to understand is that when i get a gig like i did a gig last night so it's like when i get a gig i'm going to get [ __ ] that just book me on the name right it's like all right that's the homie let's give him a bag real quick he dope let's bring him through but i want to kill it get out of the house i want to tear down on some kid capri [ __ ] or some [ __ ] sns you know what i'm saying i'm going to every party kid capri hands down kick capri i would say kick capri is definitely my first party here right now um a party i would love to go to dj camilo yes i can't lie you're not coming international yeah yeah it'd be koreans in there like how you get koreans something international yeah and he actually lives up to that yeah because i feel like i feel like as a dj i don't know nobody that likes just one type of music like if if i ask you the name of your favorite song you might name me some some reggae [ __ ] some last [ __ ] nobody likes just one genre of music so i don't think you should ever just play one genre of music i'm saying i'm the type person like if if i'm if i'm djing for for black people i know what before i let go does to black people right right i know what that means to black bob people what's that how the song go hold on hold on right with something right i want to know right i want to take action immediately you know as a dj as a dj i want to know for every for every person that could be at a party what is what is the music for them coming up to you for requests yeah but i don't usually take them i'm like let me work yeah these things don't work yeah of course but but the one thing is i never want people to come to a party but oh he's just gonna play some 90s hip-hop i'm gonna get some knives play all that [ __ ] get out of here i play everything 42 because the dj a real dj it ain't about me it's about y'all yeah i'm saying yourself oh man listen i'm playing 21 savage i'm playing what's that was definitely a legend yeah yeah i'm playing i'm playing i'm playing here that's how you know how fast she is going far in fabio you got foreign if i'm in new york which i ain't been yet yeah you been taking some new york shots lately i love y'all man like listen what y'all have done for the culture can never be erased but who's who's the newest guy you gotta get set i need to i need to know this in my set yeah like the newest name of a couple i probably play like i said savage you're gonna you're gonna hit thug how about cj whoop dee you're not playing wolfy you definitely got a problem with new york i'm playing rowdy rebel right okay okay okay when i'm playing that you got two drinks oh [ __ ] yeah i was ready for two yeah i'm in hey i'm not doing two but i i'll fill it up a little more but you gotta play a little cj okay come on walked it out there it ain't it's not for us it's for us it's not for us yes it's by us but it's not for us and we said we said your favorite era we said your favorite uh part of the game is just music yes that was not enough for me i'm gonna be an honest i'm going right back here you got big-ass ice cubes happened in with ice cubes the ice cream took over a pause we'll join you for a second come on join me god damn it we got [ __ ] bad [Applause] [Music] skills and i will say like big shout out to you because anytime somebody that was here that was hit from va the first thing you would always say was not the first thing i ever heard of yeah from virginia yeah i was playing your records out here i was on the mixtapes everything yeah i got dropped from you how can i be down like hey now man thank you i remember when you said that to me like you was like no you you dropped me the whole [ __ ] i was like yeah like is that a certain amount of pressure because or is it like i i mean let me symbolize this question jay prince yeah jay prince on here okay so to a certain extent everybody from houston texas feels like they have to have a jay print stamp a jay prince is it like that in virginia not for me okay like i don't you know i'm not the person where they feel like they have to get through me i want everybody to win because like i said we we come from a place where nobody ever got off yeah i'm saying so um i would love to see a young you know like like like the kid pushing guy carl you know what i'm saying like i would love to see new artists coming up from the city you know what i'm saying like from the state because like i said i realize that it ain't about me no more like i opened the door so you could get the pharrells the misses the eclipses you know i'm saying the magus i open that door so it's only right that the doors stay open like i'm saying that's the point i don't want i ain't opening the door to [ __ ] close the [ __ ] all right yeah i mean like i want this [ __ ] i want everybody to win because because you got to understand we we birth probably two of the biggest producers in the [ __ ] game period not just in virginia hip-hop hands down like [ __ ] hands down these [ __ ] change their games huge records pop right beat maker no big [ __ ] is producers they are song craftsmanships they know exactly what they're doing i seen it at a at a at an early level i remember being in the studio and master sound when [ __ ] was working on buster what it is right now in one room and was working on grimy in the next room [ __ ] memory is so accurate that is so accurate you know [Music] it was working so it wasn't this [ __ ] didn't come to pharrell and chad and tim easy man like they was working like we was all working all right god damn make some noise for that god damn his stuff [Applause] [ __ ] boys i ain't drinking either i'm [ __ ] up right now i love the flight it's cool now we're not drinking either we just do it for the camera that's it that's the camera so um who's your favorite producer if you have one trap listen just one trap this is one trap god comes to you and says listen you gonna live forever mm-hmm but you gotta make me one wrap-up one you're gonna make me one rapper with one producer for the rest of your life you live internally but it's one producer you gotta lock in with is it a producer you never worked with or is it producer you're comfortable with and who is that producer tim it's a great question can't lie i just pressed myself that's pharrell that's pharrell williams all day did you explain why i never seen nobody make music the way that he does with the passion that he does i agree you know what i'm saying and two to be you know to to be an inspiration to all of us you know i'm saying like that [ __ ] is he seriously loves music you know i'm saying and that's where i can relate to him because it's like i love i love rapping i love djing i love writing songs for [ __ ] i love [ __ ] helping [ __ ] put the snare wherever but it also it all revolves around music right so to be around somebody that loves music just as much right that's the whole point of the game you know i'm saying like i want to take i want to take time out to pick up my engineering hazardous sounds because every time hazardous sounds well i do a record with him he'll give me two or three different versions of a record i love it and i tell him it reminds me of what for real you should do yeah every record i ever have before besides super thug was the third version of that actual record like he'll try a whole new beat on his own and be like and i'm like yo it's like you hate that [ __ ] before i hate that [ __ ] all right cool and he'll just keep shooting shots yeah so it's like it's like you don't go to the gym just to shoot one free throw my [ __ ] you're gonna keep shooting shots yeah i'm saying so at that point something's gonna fall right and hopefully you'll shoot so many that when it's game time you'll make that [ __ ] who makes a noise for that now the same question but yours is different because your money gonna slow up because once you don't name a rapper they love you you got one record to produce for a lifetime god says you gonna live for eternity hmm got one one artist one artist to work with to make a eternal is so god comes to you so you live eternal or you can go to shaytard maybe jay-z but you just switched up i said nas first that's that's that's who i was rolling with growing up the more than j you know what i'm saying okay i ain't mad so that's like some golden goat you're a buck okay as a producer all right tj effect the [ __ ] you get those two from i don't know you want to do a dj college dj clue album you got one producer and one artist to pick and god says if you make it work you live eternally if you don't make it work you're to twerk with the tall well i already had a chance to work with premiere on my last album as the beat maker premieres are you picking for me again i will go again from this goal i like where you going so far and i'll go with cube man because she was my favorite artist growing up up to what's up connection is his favorite this is my top five is that exists for me i don't think i've ever heard it together he's definitely in my top five yeah the the game uh i never come laying tight killing in the game primo did that listen to the scratches i'll be honest with you i think you need to come out with your own the taurus [Applause] he's a professor for god's sake he meets with deans [Applause] why are you beefing with a rapper on the world stuff and then in the studio when she record her vote yeah i see no interviews i know she produced too but i you know she she maybe not sitting down playing but as far i've never seen but she'll definitely sit down and tell you yeah i got ready to go uh would you is that safe to call the puffy but he can sit down and play too but right right they call that diddy doosan when you could just say i wanted to go ah yeah like dre is the same way not saying he can't play but the times that i've been around dre was definitely like you wrote for doctors right i wrote some [ __ ] um it never came i was detox um but uh that was probably um probably one of the illest times because i seen i it's like being around dre if you having a session with dre it'll be the most important session in your life you know what i'm saying like and i i came out there and i'm bugging because we with the holiday with the hollywood hills and the [ __ ] laker game is on and it's me dre and the man that brought me there and maybe like two other people and i go in and i'm writing i'm writing the song and he he talking to his man he's like yo like it's like boring like you think we should bring some people around he's like i mean i mean if he wants dre he's like yeah i think we should get some people it's kind of boring game on like [ __ ] i go back in the room because i don't want [ __ ] to think i'm there just to [ __ ] party so i go back in the room and write and i come out and i tell him i said yo i got it done he said i come in so he comes in he listened to it he said yo i want you to change line eight line fourteen and line three and i'm like okay boom and he's like yeah make it like you on the one like make it go ah like say something like uh i'm like okay cool so i say it and then i i [ __ ] i'm working on these three lines that he want me to change and then i come back out to tell him that i redid it and it's it's a whole [ __ ] part and i'm like god damn dr dre just blink his [ __ ] eyes and people show up so crazy it's yeah yeah and it's grammy weekend so it's [ __ ] great i do the joint and we finish everybody leaves and i'm talking to him and i'm like yo man like uh like he's like like you like the record he was like yeah no i'm i'ma [ __ ] with it i might cut the reference and say he says it's dope and i was like yo man i love the house man like this [ __ ] is amazing man like you got the floss you're using the house but i'm in the house right so like i started out there we thought he's in a regular studio no i'm in the house and i'm like yo man this is beautiful man like this this is amazing this home you built here you know what i'm saying like and he said um i'll never forget this [ __ ] the [ __ ] said uh yeah i'm not mr [ __ ] this is like the party crib i said what you mean i said what you mean he said no no this is like the credit credit there's a billion dollars it's like the crib you got to come out he said skills you got to come out in the summer i'll be having some cracking barbecue with the homies i said yo you don't live here he said like with my wife and family i said yeah he said oh no [ __ ] yeah that's crazy craziest [ __ ] ever it was the grammys i can't remember what year it was but [ __ ] i was like this [ __ ] don't even live in this house like this is [ __ ] insane this his house don't even live here it was a chill crib that's someone that we need on drink champs gotcha and shout out to smitty who's trying to make it happen he's not he's in that camp he's a writer big ups i don't want to throw him under the bus but let's let's make it happen got to i leave the crib and i'm with the homie and we driving and i'm [ __ ] kind of like the homies kind of faded so he like yo can you drive i'm like i bet i'm driving i make the right i come out and these men and black [ __ ] come out of nowhere with the [ __ ] earpieces the black glasses and i'm like yo what the [ __ ] is going on and dude like yo where are you going i said yo i'm trying to get back down to sunset he like yeah nah nah back up do a three-point turn go back that way i'm like i like i felt like he was about to pull out on me so i'm the homie and he [ __ ] up he in the passenger seat i turned the car around with the car when i started going in the hill i said yo what the [ __ ] was that bro he said yo um my bag yo that's um leonardo dicaprio he can't go up his street i said bro what the [ __ ] is this like [ __ ] was crazy man being around for that man no you have to answer this now what you're a producer but that's the thing i already knew you were going to say that so now you got to say feature on the track last feature in your life yeah oj stop it i want to write oj [Music] but he could be alive or dead yeah it doesn't matter really you like easy like that i really love easy i just loved his persona i just loved his like when i went back and i've really studied you know his life is crazy like i just love this crazy like i love i love sapphire i think easy might be my top one yeah that's good that's the reason why i asked that question earlier it's like why do i respect him so much when it comes down to right there's other people like again i just think there's different categories that we should be kind of like i can't put a [ __ ] in front of the [ __ ] who he influenced or that [ __ ] he was influenced by i can't put holes in front of kane cause hove was directly influenced by cage right right and i agree with you too because the reason why i agree with you a certain step is because one thing about these young dudes they're not gonna respect [Music] respect they're going to respect what they see is in front of them like like the thing about it is like you know the old dude on the block that got the most knowledge but is it drunk right he's actually hitting you with the most knowledge in the world but she's sitting but you ain't listening because this [ __ ] is pissing on herself but not every other block is a drunk that's that's not a good analogy it's not fair to compare it to that yeah i know but the young guy that only sees us in front of them we have to teach them what's beyond in front of them because that's what's most important right i agree and that's what our role is like i can't put [ __ ] in front of kane because i know who kane influenced cain influenced jay he influenced big like if there was no big daddy kane it couldn't be yeah bro there's lineage i could never disrespect a young [ __ ] that doesn't that that says i'm [ __ ] with just jake and that's it i don't because i see what he sees too it's just like you know what i love muhammad ali i really do got to but i've never seen a live muhammad fight right i actually see all of floyd mayweather's fights right my book or mike i'm like i think floyd mayweather's the best boxer of all times who do you think the best rapper balls are who are your top five granddaddy are you just saying easy [Music] for today's for today yeah granddaddy are you i like what you say grandpa hard that's hard i think the randoms [Music] krx1 let's get ready absolutely for me we need one more and i'll never do this give you that fifth one right i don't got no queens for you [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] y'all i'm feeling very lyrical and skilled in front of you and that's my [ __ ] 5. what's your fault man five number five is i'm [ __ ] up now at this point [Music] no i'm not sure i'm in i'm there with you it's going you're gonna be mad you're gonna be mad number four black thought why you be mad pause number three whole number two big daddy kane wouldn't be no mad skills without big daddy king i respect that number three i mean number one i'm [ __ ] up i'm [ __ ] up number one greatest all-time goal to me hold up everybody yeah yes give me five [ __ ] five rappers and i never be in your top five jesus let's do it let's do it and this guy is actually in my top five [Applause] oh [Applause] let me live with this one definitely i love them you're not loving them if they never they will never [Music] i don't care a wrapper murphy league saint louis never mind you're not gonna do a b form in 2021 [ __ ] it efn you next get it ready no disrespect i love the group i say uh malachi the nutcracker [Music] no no man come on come back to me okay okay you're right okay top five coming on drink champ soon because i want them no no i want them to be on twitter politically no it's not politically correct i just want them to tell this story give yourself just thinking exactly you next love these guys and i live in miami that's so terrible oh damn they gonna be my top five and my boy managed them they produce directly with me i was going too long crew without luke hey penny's done anybody that doesn't deserve it i'm just it's not saying you wack it's just saying you would never listen to me it is it is and the thing the people i'm thinking are legends in my mind but top five i'm mad skills i'm from virginia that's cool i ain't [ __ ] with hoes knives [ __ ] easy yeah you see i know it i'll name my top five big l rock him ice cube scarface might already say okay and pun i like that i like that cause a part of the light-skinned mafia which i'm not a part of i'm part of the dark skinned community you switch up [Applause] that's my brother though i love him listen i thought mad at me because i put him in the wrap-up and [ __ ] what did you say about him i mean that was a little weird bro though that was weird there's no way to get around how weird that was wait i is he got mad at me because he was like yo the rapper they was like i don't listen i don't i'm not i'm i don't listen to the podcast i don't know something's like yo joe buddy said you was god rap over trash and did it and i was like okay cool like that's your opinion and i was like oh he probably mad cause i said he jerked off his dogs [ __ ] like yo like skills beat was trash he he he trashed him in the he got a it's a white boy whatever white boy the black grand brother whatever so i was like okay is the health benefits i can make a lot of bread but i gotta i gotta do this dog but you gotta do the dirty work i said i'm good i'm good on that one i'm paying but this is what i'm saying though if you said it in the wrap-up and it's real why did he get mad at you though he got pissed because i guess i put his business on front street because you must have said it in a way that was disrespectful but do you think you can rap i said a lot i know he could jump on the ground i said joke he cool like i've never been a fan but it is what it is but here's the thing about the rapper if i put you in the wrap up it's cause it happened right right i'ma put it in there because it happened i'm not gonna be super disrespect was super disrespectful oh 203 i'm not gonna be super disrespectful now cause this [ __ ] don't make sense for me and that's probably why old boy [ __ ] go up because [ __ ] want to hit a shade they want to eat the tea like he should do hot topics on high 97 it should have worked it'd be good for him but for me right i'm not going this year i did the wrap up was eight minutes and 46 seconds which was the same amount of time that the [ __ ] had his knee on george floyd god bless so for me it was more of a point for me i'm like i get to the end of the song and i say the whole time you were listening to me was the whole time that that [ __ ] had his knee on george floyd's neck like imagine listening to a rapper rap that long and the [ __ ] was fighting for his life that long so the wrap up had a meaning this year it was eight minutes 46 seconds because the [ __ ] got to reflect the times so for me that's what it was and i think they listened to it there was an order beat was trash the flow's charged skills out of here we [ __ ] with the other one i'm like all right cool but it was a meaning to the [ __ ] and why it was as long as it was you know i'm saying so that's why i did what i did i had a respect to him and the family hit me up like yo we appreciate that because i'm like it's december your floyd happened in the summer i don't want [ __ ] to forget all right i'm gonna try to remind [ __ ] one more time you know what i'm saying just to let [ __ ] know small questions what's up all right i'm faded now at this point i'm gonna tell you now who was in the room because the way i became a skills fan was listen to stretching bob and that one freestyle you did i know you made a b-side out of it was like punch laugh the punchline five minutes straight i forgot what beta was but like red alert who walked to 45k that's what it was it was called uh but it had like some some underground like you know what i'm talking about that's what that's his his [ __ ] but there was other other emcees there though right me and cute and q-tip stretching barbito you went crazy was like yo we gonna invite you up here but you gotta bring q-tip we need to interview q-tip so we can talk about so that was the way you got so we could talk about these beats and how he been doing one love and the knives remix q-tip goes when they asked me to rap i'ma kick the [ __ ] to you and spit that [ __ ] yourself for that q-tip starts rapping throws the [ __ ] to me i do the [ __ ] stretching barbito wouldn't even have me up there if it wasn't for q-tip and then q-tip threw this [ __ ] to me and i did the verse and the [ __ ] went it went viral i guess it's vibration no that [ __ ] was on vinyl bro yeah i go to rocksteady in the park start wrapping it everybody in rocksteady in the parking lot and i was like this is going viral but who would be was that they keep saying the 45 kings no but that was another rapper like it was a song nah it was marcus 45 king just instrumental it was on was it that's why i was going to watch this so i was going to rock and sold get records had 45 king had a little compilation beat number four was that beat i rapped over that's not never forgotten you guys jack the leah are you that somebody recognized yes dj lonnie b danger oh i have that vinyl big that remix aaliyah liked it so much she actually made it official yes that was one of the plaque i got early days your mouth wrapped over it yeah that's just classic b was in the heavy hitter shot dj enough shots and his daughter too which is super wow he the first dj that has his own kid in the heavy hitters wow the danger mouth wrapped over first played it for me i rap over a second lonnie hears it bonnie b hears it and goes oh no [ __ ] i'm i'm getting off like i need 12 balls we do it we give it to this before you can get your song to [ __ ] the radio [ __ ] played it [ __ ] would never play a song on the radio in 98 with you rapping on it nah [ __ ] [ __ ] you mean this death jam i'm not about to add you to casey's record we did the song the [ __ ] who was pd at the radio station [ __ ] he he came up with us he start playing the [ __ ] the [ __ ] pops off it it gets the timberland it gets to leah aaliyah like nah i want them [ __ ] at the tunnel to perform we performed with aaliyah at the time that record is classic what year what year is that what years ago so let me let me tell you you know what you know what every time i think about that record i think about the year that we brought you to do the show in miami your first year your first solo show 2798 yeah and i played that record at the club listen in virginia they don't play no other version but that one all right that's the one that's the only one in virginia [ __ ] know like shout out to leah rest in peace yeah last you know artist i met her through tembo super sweet special girl and she's from virginia she's from detroit not she was from detroit detroit that was the first project that tim and missy got on their own like yo do this aliyah album and then they get ugh really what the hell holy [ __ ] i respect that well i toured with him for 13 years um i was his emcee right i made it so the only [ __ ] that could come get the microphone from me while he was djing was will that's it ain't no other [ __ ] coming up me and that [ __ ] was so tight i knew what he was going to play before his play i tipped my hat to him i respect him i love him i toured i filled up two passports with that [ __ ] i'm on my third boy's passport now two of them steps yes like i told you earlier i started dating esther dean i moved to l.a i tell the [ __ ] yo um i'mma fall back from mcn cause i'm out in la now like i'm working i'm i'm i'm getting back to my songwriting [ __ ] i wrote the name [Music] because what i'm what i'm making with you i feel like i can you know i'm gonna just fall back i'm gonna focus on my song i quit and the [ __ ] never says nothing to me ever again and i start djing and i start djing i start getting better and he starts having these dj retreats and his crib guru there quest love dj scratching like a car like a car bike i'm trying to get them invited i never got i never i never got invited i started djing and we never spoke again and i don't know what happened i don't know this is not in my notes by the way i don't know why it happened to ask this question thinking and i don't know why you quit you do know why yeah but that shouldn't yeah i know this thing is this i started djing i still got a blade you know alcohol petty gang but my thing is this you i think it's yourself i'm i'm a dope dj i started djing i started doing my thing but but you left but but [ __ ] you wanna do you know who you are you're the greatest hip-hop dj ever it can't be because you think he's looking at you as competition he has your first hip-hop grandmother no you could never look how could i ever be in competition he was in west philadelphia maybe he'd feel like you know i started we all started earlier i started trying to get better then i got good and i was just like damn like yeah for real it's not i already spoke madness i always tried i i i haven't spoken to him i don't know what it is i love them and it is what it is but we don't speak that's weird man that's not in my notes that's a little awkward i'm sure you felt that that he influenced you on them i learned the same thing you've learned from the [ __ ] i learned the same thing you learned but same time yeah did you take something from him did you check it out you did a peter piper routine it might have been a little different because it was me but my thing is bro when it came down to me on that fader and then turntables i [ __ ] with the beat junkies i [ __ ] with dj manuel i [ __ ] with dj lonnie b i [ __ ] with dj b out of va those are the [ __ ] that taught me right the same thing i learned from him as a dj the same thing y'all [ __ ] learn you watch them you watch the videos it's in the third i don't know why we don't talk i'm [ __ ] up right now i love you [ __ ] you want to talk to this this this camera right here [Music] jones mariah carey just jacked this middlebot nah that's a good look we don't mind all right yeah yeah yeah do my name on there i don't know i can't find the record yeah but let's just say you know that's my camera you got whatever a corvus instead of a remember she was going to give me some bread to get on the remix and then you took the chorus with the pun oh you got to relax i actually was like the first black man that actually had land on 32nd and madison the hood lab real estate so let's put it this way okay can i can i put it in perspective you please subscribe this man yeah is i was engineering producer for nori coming through every day he was nora was the type to jump on the sidekick every morning to like 12 to 15 people yo where y'all at and talking about no he still does that had a squad there was the mother so i was the one to press the buttons but he'd only present buns like once in a day the rest of the day was just drink a pinot and [ __ ] but if it was a moment of record you know he'd jump in and do a one taking and then go back to chilling you know so that's what um that's what he just dropped oy makanto and the and the rock the rock live familia blew up that's when that's when the the reggaeton 2016. i think the only one build number one record in the building can we talk about how tango training turned it down today all right so shout out to nature for actually bringing me through to you first yeah okay [Music] so all right what happens nature brings you to the studio all right so basically i start becoming regular at your hood quote hood lab even though it's on madison six empty rooms only one room in the computer the mic the rest is mice running around in the winter we don't wear bubbles like it's like there's no heat it's just like a foul situation but it's sort of the richest place but yeah there was a boat downstairs so that's it like you know as an up-and-coming producer dj obviously it's not it's not it's not what you know it's who you know it's about being in the right place so i already knew if i'm gonna plant myself dead nor we know everybody everybody showing up boom boom networking and then when he got signed to rock life familia dame dash surprised him by bringing mariah to the hood lab so when she showed up i was already in front of the boards and everybody was on the dvd exactly critical nah that's a fact no real but everybody was concentrating the dvd because i was dvd so you was talking to dvd trying to get those footage and i'm sitting there like [ __ ] i should play some beats in the background you know what i'm saying by the fifth beat she's like what's that and then after that you know what i'm saying do the pass off and then she picked something but let's declare let's be clear that's how you got that placement yes i got it let's be clear but i want to tell the other story yeah this was you know i had searched for studios what happened was i started to notice that i was losing money when i put a studio in queens because queens is either it's in a nice park but to get to that nice part you got to go through something crazy right jersey just seemed too far to people right so i finally got the perfect location 32nd and maps the the person who was renting it to me at the time wanted like the whole year's rent up front i think it was like 6 500 the first year so he wanted it all up front no no he it's not for the whole year 65 now i thought he wanted like six a month damn there no no no each for the for the whole year he went to 6 000 for each month and i was just like you know what i'm not i'm gonna put the money into the wreck and not the equipment so we really didn't even have equipment shout out can i give a shout out to somebody can i just say one name shout out to vinnie chin okay yeah shut up in the chin man so this is like he provided the equipment yeah but then he got tired paid for the whole year i got a luxurious property like 32nd at madison but when you went in it was not so illustrious no it's illustrious outside there's no decoration because crazy we had to sleep there a couple times thank you very much i appreciate it yeah we're not at the hotel you know i was fighting with each other back then so since 97 98 that's dope yeah that's dope so i got this [ __ ] ill [ __ ] studio like everyone's going to come in we'll just give the address no it's a fact so what happens is mariah carey wants to hang out dave das history goes because she lives a block away literally a block away super easy i think they actually walked over wow and she grunted all of that and i could not believe how she was about i didn't know who wants my right i mean it's mariah but i didn't know how much like hood [ __ ] turned into groupies dudes at the battery already because we was drinking and i'm like yo you drink pinot grigio she was like hell yeah and listen i had a just so happened i had a refrigerated pinot gris let me tell you more every morning though i'm trying to get to is this is our third day having the hood of that 30 seconds between 32nd and 31st and madison right this is a luxurious product i did not order the furniture yet i understand futon one part of me was like this is kind of [ __ ] up but then the other part of me was like like i said once we brought introduced to pinot grigio she just she drank she ran around the studio did you even record to it yeah i did all right so boom so let me just tell you what i you call me like four in the morning you're like yo mariah just said she got like 50 racks with me to do the remix but i'm a pass on it and i'ma tell her i need a hook for this joint i got a pun right into a green lantern so you remember you was like i'm gonna get the hook from her i said yo i mean that's all you if you want to pass the 50 minutes i get and then that record bit off that record they go and never came round which one so that he got a hook from her but it was on it was the pun the pun verse was sensitive so it didn't come out i had a pun verse i had an unreleased pun verse and me and me and paul had a song called friends all right and we jacked the friends [ __ ] but houdini yeah okay so we knew we couldn't do that and so when ryan came and did that i was like you know what let me just and she switched it so we had gave it an original beauty and she said i'm asking what you're doing baby rest in peace ecstasy from houdini yeah bottom line mariah carey big obsessions of mariah carey but what happened to that verse though i have no idea do you have it though cause i never even heard your verse no the fact that they promoted it i just i kept googling it it kept coming up like mariah reid and it just came up with joel's and cam because they they jacked and they did like a mixtape version of it and she ran with that and then and you know what i i'm i i'm grateful for that i'm grateful for that moment oh just us knowing like this is at the end of the day this is a hood dude opening up some [ __ ] for three days and you got one of the most biggest classic brothers that's the reason why i never really changed the hood lab i never really decorated it yo listen i had eevee queen coming queen wherever you at i'm so sorry we need her on drink chances i'm so sorry she came in the hood lab and she took off her shoes and i wanted to tell her our maid is fired forever please put your shoes back on but this is not the place to take your shoes off evie queen was so gay i was just like oh [ __ ] i'll just dance you know everywhere she went like oh [ __ ] like i know we had mice he mentioned that earlier you guys had a lot of things in there no the elevator was suspected is right we're taking a shot monster is already done gotta fill up hold on that's y'all last year's shot what's all i gotta say is on our show we wanna like to pick up our legends and in other genres of music there's not even a word called washed up okay buster boss i got a lot you got to put it on you guys you got to put bus on speaker yo buster boss we hear a drink chance of [Applause] masks episodes earlier my phone is hot you goddamn you don't know who i know but we want to big you up because in our game and when i look at like these other genres of music like jazz and all this other things there's no word called washed up there's no word called like you've been here too long like i see these rock and roll people they they taught 30 years in this game right and everyone cheers them on so i along with my partner yeah friend we want to change the narrative of that we want to let people know that you know campaign is aged years of certain champagnes that this great one this realm the same [ __ ] and the thing is i want to change that narrative for our culture i want people to know that you know it's like you said earlier like you know y'all borrowing the car yeah y'all got the car we ain't mad we gave you all the cars right but take care of it just take care of it get your transmission in your muffin like right now i only got an oil change on my my own car right now cause i'm [ __ ] up because without hip-hop bro no exactly that's what we really need to concentrate we [ __ ] we come from a special music man that has changed the world most popular uh art form in the in the [ __ ] world man in the world i'm saying like it is what it is like these corporations and these businesses they know what we bring to the table man hip hop has changed the [ __ ] world so with that being said you know we just got to cultivate it what i'm saying white grape on you white grapefruit nori let's do it let's do it you ever wrapped up a scrap jones b i remember you said like that no no no no no whoa first of all this [ __ ] did a song this this guy did a song called i like i like yours and i remember hearing it and it was most amazing [ __ ] that i've seen he's on kanye west [ __ ] he's on his car i called him yeah and i remember calling him and at this point in his life he told me he was like i wasn't sure if i was going to dj if i was going to rap it's going to produce i called him and i said yo i hit him on the dm i said yo twitter it's just before graham i said yo fam you better than kanye you you are you i did i tell you that or did i not tell you now he put the bat bro keep doing your [ __ ] never met him a day in my life i might have seen him beginning to do over maybe a couple of years ago but we never met but i've always been i'm super loved yeah i've always been a fan of him you know what i'm saying like producing his beats i i thought i wasn't even rapping [Applause] if i do a podcast i'm gonna drop your name on my podcast if i'm doing a mix i'm gonna play your song in my mix i did a [ __ ] for him plenty of times and he played my [ __ ] early like back back you know i'm saying not factor big beat days like i'm a fan man thank you i'm [ __ ] up let me get the opener tell me about that because that's after i ain't mad and i got i just gotta ask you about the apples that we could get about it i ain't mad no more and conventional ghost writing was the raucous album which was the same album i was on tour with nerd in 2002 i started selling them shits out the out there at the shows nerd um finish the show yo meet me at the merch booth i'm selling cds and mad skills t-shirts i sold probably more than since then rocker i was moving them because i knew rock was out of business all right so i'm like nah i'm gonna sell my music you know my [ __ ] only came out it only came out in like it came out real quick and they didn't press up no more cds right so i pressed some cds on my own like a mixtape show them shits not a million dollar backpack what was in the million dollar backpack million dollars that was that was e1 after at the gym got it popping shadow stokes you know i'm saying d sonogram those my [ __ ] um that was when i did the song with common freeway black thought who else i had on the album tyler quality um that's the first time i did a song for women and realized like i've gone back when the og said yo make songs for who you think be in the lobby i made a song called he don't want me for real women loved it i feel like ll for like 15 minutes she was amazing all right loved it when it came panties on the stage for you yes yes i'm a cute [ __ ] sometimes we're two [ __ ] killing them differences so anxious uh him and tim was getting big i was the rapper yeah i'm saying when i popped in it was petey bubba sparks miss j uh and then missy had this artist from from my hood named uh what was her name mocha nicole ray nicole right yeah yeah brother named kenny shout out to kenny um we was doing songs together but i never oh no i never hopped on a genuine joint yeah it wasn't wasn't no beast he wouldn't want me [Applause] you do a lot of um you do a lot of live streaming for the ladies you do like brunches and like but it's a it's a community of women people that have gravitated and people start it was dope the dj and people started supporting each other like yo yo your daughter sell girl scout cookies i'm gonna buy some from her you do a fitness class i'm gonna take your fitness like dope community i built the whole community when when the quarantine and [ __ ] the world needs more skills one of my favorite albums uh i wrote the song called celebrate life that was for ross i don't even know if ross ever heard it but if you hear if you hit a song now rick ross you can't you can't say this yeah you know what i mean i mean whenever there's more than one ross in the world the way you made that sound like you just you just wrote a song for a rose no you know for the whole okay uh i don't know if he ever heard it but it was for him but i ended up keeping it for myself um crazy-ass song called celebrate life shot the video in in vegas when i was on tour with jeff shot the video in vegas with my man uh christopher schaefer [ __ ] costs like four hundred dollars should look like a [ __ ] he doesn't know why he doesn't speed the jacks jeff no more yeah we don't no no i was here guys about uh last illas album um i love the songs and it just made sense to make it at the top okay thoughts become things that was supposed to be my last album it was not it was not or continued uh thoughts become things was more so me saying this this is my black album i'm hoping on some whole [ __ ] i'm out after this did it [ __ ] was dope i put it out myself um one of the crazy things about the album is as a kid i'm on the cover of the album i'm sitting on the floor watching run dmc on tv you guys see brother sees your fluids first [ __ ] that made me want to get into the game right run with the pipe and pick a peck of my adidas sucker mc's changed my life yeah i'm saying um ryan and d had to be the coolest [ __ ] in the world one time i wanted to beat the [ __ ] out of the run but that's a whole other story in real life i can't tell you reverend did me so dirty one time you're gonna have to say i can't tell you that 13 years old i'm in favor of north carolina i mean run dmc at a record store i wait all day run dmc show up pictures on my gram [ __ ] run dmc show up run dj amazing i'm in the break dance group with my cousin and his sister [ __ ] crazy me run dmc take a picture 20 at 10 whatever years later i'm on raucous high and mighty i got a song most def called b-boy document it's just popular remember when cool used to do those those cigarette parties where they they had to they had to have a party they would have a comedian they would have a comedian a rap artist a [ __ ] graffiti right yeah they thought they was doing it all good i'm on the ship with most death uh highly mighty one dmc is closing out the bill virginia beats i'm down there with pharrell in front i can't believe i'm telling the story i see this [ __ ] run on the side of the stage i walk up to the [ __ ] i say yo my [ __ ] my name mad skills i met you when i was 13 years old in favor of north carolina i love you man like listen you changed my life i'm a rapper i'm on raucous records the spirit the this field was too long i said yo i said i just got this thing i just like shake and wrap his hands with with the hand that i write my rhymes with my [ __ ] thank you so much [ __ ] had me on the shoulder [ __ ] said that's what's up [ __ ] i'm like this he left you hanging i he was he was a [ __ ] at 85 when i met him but i was 13. he didn't matter he was running [Music] 2015 black thought calls me say yo i need you to help me come to new york all right no no come to new york and do this help me out on the adams we're doing a show for su when the super bowl was in new york i said i bet he said yo they call me they fly me in i got i brought a brand new 5d camera i'm like yo i got my 5d camera all my hip-hop legends are performing right p-rop cl i don't know that they're not cool i don't [ __ ] care they lost so still cool naughty by nature they beat them no no vinnie vinnie and trevor it's just like you don't know that they're not cool super bowl super bowl the roots present hip hop featuring run dmc featuring pete rock and cl smooth featuring dougie fresh and slick rick featuring de la soul and featuring jim jones because the super bowl was in new york it's freezing [ __ ] cold i did some [ __ ] videos i get to the venue it's everybody's backstage shit's crazy shit's super wild right i'm like i bet i see a lover i see iced tea coco it's it's this i see [ __ ] lover this [ __ ] is new york and it's essen it's freezing outside they got its intense this in the third all my hip-hop heroes are performing dougie fresh performs with slick rick they do the [ __ ] show i'm bugging de la soul performs they they still cool p rock and cl smooth perform vinnie and trex and kg perform shit's crazy run dmz performs i'm like no [ __ ] i'm going in the front with my camera i gotta get this [ __ ] even after he [ __ ] on after he's sitting on me i'm like [ __ ] i gotta get this [ __ ] [ __ ] i go to the front d nice with me d knight standing next to me because he this is where he early with his shots we standing in the paparazzi pit back track i'm backstage dj walks up to me says yo my [ __ ] i'm a fan my [ __ ] i used to bang your [ __ ] in college my name is charlie chan i d i dj for dmx dmc i said that's what's up appreciate it my [ __ ] the gram was new twitter was popping the brand was new [ __ ] takes a picture with me immediately posted to the grant i'm like oh [ __ ] this [ __ ] really a fan dude that's dope fast forward i'm in i'm in the pit watching brent dmc perform sinatra filming muhammad ali [ __ ] i'm done they got two jam master dead god blessed that james j passed away dj ruckus is with ron dj charlie chand and they got took a picture with earlier is with dmc i'm in the crowd performing watching this [ __ ] got my camera before no walk this way this thing in the third the [ __ ] dms the [ __ ] run takes his [ __ ] hat off and says yo who's the biggest run dmc fan in this [ __ ] tonight this corporate it's the roots it's budweiser it's corporate i'm not it has a fedora he takes it off it says fedora okay i'm gonna get his hat to the biggest run dmc family man i'm like [ __ ] i've been on my i've been on my [ __ ] i got a 12 inch sound by method man red man i got ill-matic cassette that i bought off 125th song by knives he got he got hip-hop set list by a tribe called quest signed by all four members imma add this hat to my [ __ ] i'm looking at this [ __ ] like yo this [ __ ] this [ __ ] says yo give me somebody give me a silver sharpie somebody give me a silver shot they bring them out of sharpie [ __ ] signs the hat i'm watching this [ __ ] like [ __ ] if i get that [ __ ] hat he get a heavy dmc yo dick sign this [ __ ] man signing [ __ ] deep dmc signs the hat i'm like [ __ ] when i don't know i don't know late night with jimmy fallon it's not the tonight show yet right they doing jay leno's still on they doing the [ __ ] after jayla no they moved up yet the roots black thought called me say i need you come help me with these ad-libs i do it run dvc's performance run sign the hat d sign the hat he like yo this some rock and roll hall of fame [ __ ] who is the biggest run dmc fan family here tonight i'm sitting going i'm a 13 year old kid in fayetteville north carolina i need that hat i look at the dj who took a picture with me for the gram early i say yo family charlie said he goes i got you skills mouse is telling me he don't say to the might he mopping to me i'm like oh [ __ ] i'm in run walking back and forth in stage who is the biggest run dmc fan in here tonight charlie chan tap the mic yo run yo what's up my [ __ ] yo i think i know who the biggest run dmc fan is yo who that yo it's my man mad skills right there in the front row that's the biggest run dmc oh [ __ ] [ __ ] goes i know you ain't get it right there the [ __ ] don't know who i am i'm not expecting to know where i am [ __ ] run goes who he said he says it again yo my [ __ ] mad skills in the front row black hat right there that's the biggest run dmc fan i know my [ __ ] the [ __ ] goes run goes man that [ __ ] ain't no fan that [ __ ] working like i said y'all i closed the camera cut the camera off i walked back to the side of stage they like yo i walk up to the side of the stage i got my pass i'm on the side of the stage run dmc performing now i'm i'm pacing back and forth his kids his kids are right in front of me jeff de la soul [ __ ] cl smoove on i'm tastings they like like yo i said yo i'm pacing i go i'm smacking [ __ ] out that [ __ ] i'm not no rah-rah [ __ ] [ __ ] don't even see i'm pacing [ __ ] like jazzy jeff goes yo skills you good i say yo i'ma smack the [ __ ] out that [ __ ] bro [ __ ] like no no no no i said no bro he had to do that bro well he said you working [Music] yo you good i said nah bro [ __ ] that [ __ ] bro i'm trying i'm trying to be loud i want [ __ ] to hear me you were doing the raw [ __ ] i'm on my ride black thought comes over to me say skills what are you doing i said reek cause i called him tariq i said reek i'ma smack the [ __ ] out that [ __ ] when he come off stage bro he's the skills you can't do that i said why the [ __ ] not bro he's in the skills come on bro this my [ __ ] i said [ __ ] that reek that [ __ ] yo that's the third time i needed to play 20 years he never seen me act like this nearly like your skills i got some words for you i said what he's a [ __ ] nbc jimmy fallon [ __ ] budweiser like meanwhile a white [ __ ] got the hat she only know what the [ __ ] run dmc means he said skills you can't do that i said bro when i see when run finishes you want to smack the [ __ ] out of him they took me off the stage put me in a room in the back had security with me and kept me there and so run dmc got off the stage i've never told a story in my life i was gonna save it for the book but that's like no you [Applause] he treated me like a piece of [ __ ] and i almost beat his ass at the [ __ ] [ __ ] choice did i ever squash it or no no obviously no brian i love you but every time i met you you treated me like [ __ ] it it changes the it changes the perspective of two years ago a friend of mine like yo i don't know if he was just in a bad mood i think he's ruining our run dmc prospects for having them on breakdown he was in a bad mood but every time i met him every time i met him bro he treated me bad and i never forgot to the point that i was almost ready to throw hands with him at 2015. and he probably has no clue never knew but damn bro i was i met you when i was 13 and i loved you and every time i met you you treated me like [ __ ] you got people who treated that good bastard he just took the cake with that [ __ ] but they say they say never meet your heroes man because you go never meet your heroes because they gonna remix your whole feel with them i probably got curved before by hero i can't remember who's gonna curve doryega maybe i don't know somebody yeah that's the safest thing oh you know but not nori i've seen more people calling me let me relax yeah now a couple [ __ ] yeah yeah i mean it's it's crazy man um one of the illest oh no no don't tell that story no no no no [ __ ] it i told mine no no this i was saying i'm running for the week huh i would say that's it was crazy that's a great story that's a great stuff you know what we're gonna do we're gonna bring you guys together here on drink champs i would love to just hover he gonna break running so when you google me it comes up me and jazzy i wish we were well you know but that's man like i said you call them right now i'll speak i think we should cause [ __ ] you [ __ ] it let's just i don't even know if i had a number come on let's see let's see you'll call them man cause it don't make sense you gotta make sense of it let's trade your places right now you gotta help us out i don't even know what's the next question i got an extra thoughts becoming things we already talked about that all right all right the last one made in virginia we're back listen big dog one of the best go down the phone call him i'll have his number oh i thought you had it big dog let me see big dog uh one of the best producers i've ever met in my life and we made an album called made in virginia and that [ __ ] is amazing and he don't get the credit you know i'm saying that he should no he don't but wait i do have jazzy jeff's number hold tight okay he don't get the credit that he should but devil in the new dress you me him and her well the devil ain't that big no that's bank that's a big deal what show are you at i was somewhere else think about thinking about jazzy jeffy [Music] um when they talk about the blueprint they always talk about just they always talk about yeah yeah good [ __ ] that [ __ ] yeah get biggest flowers that's my brother the room is back all i need all of that like the [ __ ] is a [ __ ] problem man 100 hustlers credit card producers giving up like all of the nate dog [ __ ] i got love corrupt [Music] [Music] let's see with the camera we see that two brothers was together on tour forever you know we don't see you all together i asked him this question he couldn't answer the question so we want to ask you okay okay you got a camera oh and you ain't like that okay i'm ready to sign that podcast whatever it's called hold up hey bro they asked me i didn't know what to tell us i'm [ __ ] up jeff i'm about to cry but i [ __ ] love you man i love you bro thank you thank you for everything you did for me man and i just want to say thank you guys for 13 years and i [ __ ] love you man hey i'm [ __ ] hey jeff you know i can't drink man hey man i love you man i'll call you afterward man it's just good to see your face man all right i this is too much this is too much it's so great that was amazing when we walked in we were talking about some real [ __ ] bro and you said to me you got a deal back store oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we gotta get that out this is absolutely the last question yo you were great man yeah that was dope i don't remember that i forgot hey listen you're an amazing podcast host okay yeah he just helped out that's a seven year [ __ ] i'm trying to get [Applause] with that about bringing people give me a [ __ ] another shot i can't so i'm in i'm in virginia uh we had this club called 24 south union might have been called flavors uh scram come on scramble stop playing and dmx has a show all right uh i'm opening up you know [ __ ] still throwing me a bag for opening up dmx comes up and this was before right before he had he had a case i don't want to bring this up but i'm gonna have to because it makes sense for the story somebody said he raped him or whatever whatever i think he ended up getting cleared but it was a girl like yo he took it you know dmx had a case i go i i did the show i [ __ ] go to the airport the next morning me my my baby mom my daughter dmx is white hot at the time oh yeah he's [ __ ] insane this is the year he had two albums going number one in the same way i get to the hope i get to the airport i get to the gate [ __ ] dmx at the gate chill i just opened up for him so i know you know where i am i'm like yo x what's up dog what's good my [ __ ] i'm like oh [ __ ] what's up he's like bro kept that [ __ ] last night yo thank you like yo you know i mean like you going to new york i said yeah i got a meeting up at raucous or whatever wherever i'm going like y'all like oh that's good [ __ ] man like hey i [ __ ] with your [ __ ] my [ __ ] no we'll get to this we at the gate uh we sitting there chilling i don't want to crowd the [ __ ] he by himself like he might have him a security guard maybe a dj [ __ ] the plane gets cancelled they like flights cancel to jfk like yo the [ __ ] calling [ __ ] yo i need to be on the next thing like i'm about to do the [ __ ] you know i gotta be on set they like yo whatever this is virginia this virginia richmond virginia airport dmx goes i call my baby moms like yo come back and give me the flight delayed to like five me and dmx at the airport 11 a.m right i say yo the flight delayed to five come back and get me she like i'm about to get on the highway and say yo circle back come get me she got my daughter in the car [ __ ] week she comes back she's like i'm out front dmx like yo what you about to do i said yo man my baby my baby mom's here i'm about to just go [ __ ] waste some time till [ __ ] 5 p.m yo i get in the passenger seat dmx gets in the passenger seat beside my door i go yo x that's my baby mom said yo how you doing she's like oh [ __ ] it's dmx like yo how you doing love she's like he's like stop i'm like my daughter's sitting there how old how old old my daughter she's old enough she's three maybe [ __ ] good i said yo you hungry he said yeah let's get some [ __ ] i'm like i bet true story we stop at a kfc we go to kfc it wasn't in kentucky fried chicken because i don't even know if they was calling this [ __ ] chicken at this point no it's just kfc it's the colonel we don't have kennedy no they just kennedy me and dmx walk into the [ __ ] kfc i'm like yo let me get a 12 piece the girl is standing there like i know y'all she's looking at x she looking at me i'm like yo let me get a 12 piece you know i'm saying coleslaw mashed potatoes and give me get some biscuits can't get some hot sauce she like yeah sure it's like what do you have x goes no skin on my chicken she goes oh she didn't heard his voice she goes oh [ __ ] oh my god kenisha oh [ __ ] kenisha jamal come here what'd you say you weren't again eight piece no scout [ __ ] two mashed potatoes two [ __ ] oh skittle that [ __ ] [ __ ] the fool comes out she's like oh my god it's him it's him he's like yo i appreciate you shut up all right [ __ ] we eat the chicken in the car we're riding around i don't know what the [ __ ] to do till 5 p.m with dmx telling my baby mom yo just ride around yo my [ __ ] like [ __ ] we go back to the airport after the club i mean after the [ __ ] after riding around my baby mom's like my my daughter's wide and she recognized his voice you know i'm saying from from get at me dog get at me dog was insane at the time my daughter's like oh she's tripping because she knows this voice we get to the airport back to the airport dmx gets on the plane i get on a plane small ship we flying from from richmond to virginia small ship 16 passenger quick quick flip going yeah quick 40 40 minute flight yeah i'm on a plane with [ __ ] dmx and all these [ __ ] businessmen that work in virginia but live in new york ties suits the whole [ __ ] i'm flying to [ __ ] new york jfk with dmx 2a 2b ain't no first class because all this shit's small the [ __ ] like yo what's coaching i said you know what i'm chilling i'm about to do this movie and [ __ ] [ __ ] hype i said word what is it now i don't know what you're gonna call it nas is in it you know nazis in it [ __ ] t-bones just since this is gonna be crazy i'm embarrassed i'm embarrassed because i'm like it's me dmx and 12 white businessmen this [ __ ] on the plane yeah yummy x is [ __ ] shooting i mean you know me and i'm just like yo he talking so crazy he tells me the whole premise of the movie now it's like two [ __ ] you know what i mean one of the reverends [ __ ] won't do it yeah i mean it's and i'm just sitting there like yo why you so loud i fly jfk we land [ __ ] dmx says yo two days later dmx rachel you know i'm saying comes out uh you know but he got off but the girls say girls trying to come up she says crazy [ __ ] about dmx she comes out two days later and i'm just like yo this is crazy then belly comes out and i'm like that's the movie he was talking about oh you didn't because and then you can't say you can't drink no more you're gonna take one more drink and then say you can't drink that no more all right that's it this is a great job you pleasure i just want to say thank you that's thanks for being open thank you for uh you know this this is what it is oh everybody in hip hop is a superhero i believe that so our job is to to to show that superheroes cape i believe that our job is to show that our job is to sit back there and even like you know from poor righteous teachers to yes you know uh you know when little uzi work becomes a legend it's our job to sit there and say why they are legend right and i'm proud to prove and show to people who you are how you are and what you are thank you [ __ ] life let's do it

Channel: REVOLT

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Keywords: REVOLT, TV, music, rap, r&b, hip hop, drink champs, N.O.R.E., Mad Skillz, Missy Elliot, Timbaland, Q Tip, DJ EFN, Noreaga, Ghostwriting, interview, pharrell, Jay Z, nas, eminem, Rap Up, Hip Hop Confessions

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Length: 207min 24sec (12444 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 10 2021

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