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into today's true crime case. So today's true crime case
takes place in Sydney, Australia and it's between the 1980 to 1985 and this was like one of
their biggest murder cases. So if you're from Australia you probably already know this
one, but it was new to me. I never, I didn't, I didn't know about it. So let me explain. The Family Law Act was passed in 1976. Now this was allowing divorce to be seen by the federal government in Australia rather than the Supreme Court. Now the grounds of
divorce became less strict after the law was passed. So prior to this lobbying passed the family law court couples they needed a reason to file divorce and it had to be like a good reason. You couldn't just file divorce because you weren't in
love anymore or whatever. So some examples would
be like insanity, cruelty and then the most common
would be adultery. And there is a lot more but, you just had to have a good
reason to get a divorce. And when they opened this
new court, I mean people came from everywhere to get out
of their unhappy marriages. I mean, no longer did they have to hire a private detective to
catch their partners committing adultery or try
to prove that they were in an abusive relationship. You just didn't have
to really have a reason as to why you were getting divorced. It was pretty cut and dry. Like I want out of this
marriage and all right, you're good to go. So this is new, right? Like a lot of people are
coming to get a divorce and, at this new family court. Because it's new, things aren't necessarily
running smoothly. Okay. Family court, it could
be like a pretty messy or like intense scene. I mean some women were there trying to get a restraining order against
their abusive husbands or they were just trying to get away from their crappy partners. The courts itself it
had really poor security and it was really overcrowded
because people were coming in. There was just a lot of fights happening, there was a lot of frustration. It wasn't like a safe place yet. And then on top of that,
the courts also seemed to really favor women in
custody battles especially and then there were a
lot of upset fathers, and honestly looking back even
they acknowledge that yes, they did tend to favor the women over men as far as like who had
custody of the children. It just wasn't a very like
equal system at that time. So people would leave there
like just really upset. So then in 1979 on Andrea Blanchard and Leonard Warwick
went to the family court to pretty much file for divorce but also determine
custody of the children. So Andrea met her husband,
Leonard on a blind date in 1970. Andrea was 18 at the time. When she saw him it was love
at first sight, you know? And they fell for each
other pretty quickly which no shame on that, it happens. Leonard and Andrea they ended up marrying in October of 1974. He, Leonard was 27 at the time and then Andrea was 22 years old. For some reason I didn't
get a backstory on Andrea. I'ma tell you a little bit about Leonard. So Leonard was born in
Helensburgh, Australia. And suddenly his mom passed away when he was only six years old and this is obviously like
a devastating to the family. He had a younger sister who
was a year younger than him, she was five at the time
and she ended up moving in with their aunt to get
easier on their father because financial reasons like it was just really hard on their dad. And then Leonard ended
up dropping out of school at the age of 15 so he
can help raise some money so he started working on a mushroom farm. And then when he was 18 he was drafted and was forced to join the military and Leonard was not happy about this So he was pissed. And then he was discharged
about three years later and then soon after leaving
the military, he got a job as a fireman also that's
when he met Andrea and they started dating and they got married blah, blah, blah. Not long after unfortunately,
a dark side came out of Leonard and he started to
be very possessive or jealous and he was like this when
they were dating allegedly, but when they got married
it became very extreme. So he was extremely
controlling, possessive and abusive towards Andrea. Leonard would show up to
Andrea's work pretty often and unexpectedly just to check up on her. He would tell Andrea that
she was not allowed to speak to her family or her friends. They weren't allowed to come over. She pretty much wasn't
allowed to do anything unless Leonard said she could. Leonard was also very physically
abusive towards Andrea and he would regularly,
I can't say that word. So then in 1975 Andrea
is just ready to get away from Leonard and she ends up moving out to live with her father. And while they were separated, Leonard would show up
at her father's house, he would try and break in, he would try to convince
Andrea to come back. Andrea decided she needed
to get a restraining order against Leonard. Leonard would start to
threaten Andrea's father like saying that he was
pretty much gonna kill him or wishing for him to die and
this really worried Andrea and she didn't want her
dad to go through this and have to go through this extra stress. And she carried a lot
of guilt because of this and therefore Andrea decided
to move back in with Leonard and she said she did it in
order to protect her father. And I just need to add this side note and next I wanna shut it down because I know the
comments are gonna happen. How do I word this
without being awful? Hmm. Do not leave comments
saying, well why did, why didn't she just leave him? If he's physically abusive with her why didn't she just leave? Why did she go back? We're shutting that down. I'm gonna be deleting
any of those comments and I'll tell you why. If you have never been in an abusive or controlling relationship, you have no idea how it goes. Okay? When you were in this
abusive, toxic relationship you do things that make no sense, okay? You just so brainwashed. Of course from an outsider
looking in it's easy to be like, "Why don't you just fucking leave? He's beating you, get out of there." It's different when you're in it. Unless you've experienced it, no, we're not gonna blame her because I know those comments will come in and they'll piss me off. For me personally I've never been in a physically abusive
relationship but I have been in a very possessive,
controlling relationship and it was very toxic. And looking back I'm
like what was I doing? What was I thinking? But in that moment, I truly
felt like I couldn't leave and it was like they
have this power over you and it's awful and unless
you've been there, you don't, you just it doesn't make sense. Yes. So Andrea she does go back to Leonard. And then sometime passes
and Andrea finds out that she is pregnant. And then that year
their daughter was born. Her name is Trudy and she
was born in June of 1978. So in 1979, finally
Andrea and Leonard they go to the family court and they
try to file for divorce. Andrea she files for custody of Trudy and this heavily upset Leonard. And when Leonard realized that she was trying to
get full custody of Trudy, I mean this is set him off and daily he was harassing Andrea
over the custody battle. He told Andrea that he
wanted Trudy at all costs. The courts end up granting
Andrea full custody of Trudy and they grant visiting rights for or to Leonard allowing
Leonard to see Trudy at least twice a week. And then he also had
to pay like $20 weekly for child support and
also he had to uphold the restraining order that Andrea had originally filed as well. Now Leonard over here, he didn't
give two shits. (chuckles) Nay nay, no, he just wanted his daughter. And I don't even, like
this is a personal opinion that I'm about to say
okay 'cause I don't know if he cared for his daughter or not. You know he could love her tremendously. But I personally think
that he only wanted Trudy because he knew it was
going to hurt Andrea, and the only way to control
her would be to get Trudy or get custody of Trudy or
just make her Andrea's life a living hell pretty much. Anyways so Leonard would
show up to Trudy's school and it wouldn't be on visiting time. He would just show up
whenever you wanted to and then either take Trudy
or like hang out with Trudy when he wasn't supposed to. Also during the days when he
would be allowed to have Trudy he would keep her longer
than what he was supposed to or what he was allowed
so, if it was two days then he would keep Trudy
for four days or for a week. And on one occasion, it
really worried Andrea and she calls Leonard over and over again trying to find out, okay, where's Trudy? Like what's going on? You need to tell me. Andrea didn't have a car at this time, so she couldn't just like drive over there and see what's going on. So she's calling, calling, calling and Leonard's not answering, he's just being a piece of shit. So then Andrea, she calls
her brother's name is Stephen and he was 25 years old at this time. Leonard has kept Trudy like
I don't know what's going on. I can't get ahold of anybody. Can we take your car and go
over to his house and get Trudy? So of course her brother being
supportive and understanding he's been like seeing her
really go through all of this he's like, "Sure, no problem." She also just liked the fact
that like she would have some kind of security when she
goes over to Leonard's house to pick up Trudy. You know if it was her by herself, Leonard who knows where he could pull. Stephen takes Andrea
down to Leonard's house and Stephen goes up and he's
like knocking on their door. Leonard answers and Stephen's at the door and he's telling him like, "Hey man you've had Trudy
for way past your time." Stephen even goes on to say like we're not here to cause any trouble. I'm not trying to cause trouble. We just want Trudy back. Of course this is irritating
and upsetting Leonard. Stephen tried to point out to Leonard that it just wouldn't look
favorable in court for him if he was breaching the court orders. The piece of crap that he is, he pretty much just slams
the door in their face and refuses to give over Trudy. But Stephen tried his best
to just keep it as like calm and civil as possible. Anyways, Andrea went to the family court and said that Leonard
wasn't giving Trudy back. They had to step in and eventually I think it was like a
couple of days later, Trudy was returned to Andrea. So February of 1980,
Stephen, Andrea's brother. So he finished his work for
the night and he headed over to his girlfriend's home, just
a visit before heading home where he lived with Andrea,
Trudy and their father. So they were all living together. Their father at this time
he was away on vacation and so at home it was just
Andrea, Trudy and Stephen. By the time Stephen had
gotten home that night it was pretty late into the
night like almost midnight. He just kind of like quietly snuck in and then he went into the back
of the house to his bedroom. And then that's where he just
fell asleep for the night. In the early hours of the morning, it's believed to be anywhere
from like two to 4:00 AM, somebody breaks into the house. An intruder breaks into the house and then they silently go
into Stephen's bedroom, which was like towards
the back of the house which that point, everybody
was sound asleep in the home and Stephen was sound asleep as well. This intruder aimed a point 22 caliber at Stephen and shot him. The bullet entered just
above Stephen's right eye and it killed him instantly. The point 22 had a silencer
attached so Andrea and Trudy, they didn't hear a damn thing, okay? The shooter then wrapped a
plastic bag around Stephen's head to contain the bleeding so it
didn't make like this fat mess and leave a trail. They wrapped Stephen
up in like his blankets that he was sleeping on, somehow quietly carried
Stephen out of the house. So then the next day it
was Trudy's second birthday or that same day if it was morning. It was Trudy second birthday. And Andrea wakes up, she checks to see if Stephen was home but, when she saw he wasn't home she didn't really think twice about it. Like it didn't really faze
her mostly because Stephen would stay the night at his
girlfriend's house pretty often, and so when he wasn't
there, it wasn't a big deal. But later that day the phone rings and Andrea answers it, "Hello." And it was Stephen's boss
asking where Stephen was because he didn't show up for his shift. And at that moment Andrea was like, instantly Andrea said she was worried and she had that gut feeling that something was really, really wrong. It was just very unlike
him to not show up for work but like not let them know,
like it just wasn't like him. So Andrea then goes like into his bedroom, and when she goes into his bedroom she finds his wallet is
on the bedside table. So Andrea then calls the police to file a missing persons report
and the police ask Andrea, "Is there anybody that
would wanna harm Stephen?" And she didn't even think twice. She instantly told police
her ex-husband Leonard. Now as the days passed family, the family and friends of Stephen they
were all looking for him. There was just no luck. Nobody was having any luck finding him. No one was having any luck
finding any clues, nothing. He just vanished. So then about a week later a
group of friends are boating, Jerusalem Bay at Cowan Creek. It's about 25 kilometers North of Sydney. This group of friends is out on their boat and they see something
floating in the water. Could you imagine? Gosh. Anyways, so the group of
friends they thought that it was a mannequin at first, but then once they got closer they realized that it was a human body. They call police as you should. And then the police came out and they were able to
retrieve the male victim. And when they retrieved the
male victim out of the lake, there was a rope that was
tied around his midsection, 11 bricks that were attached to the rope and then there was another
piece of rope that was tied around his neck with a
garbage bag attached. Also they see signs that
the victim had been attacked by what was believed to be
a bull shark in the area. And they believed whoever
had placed the victim in the area to try to
make sure he wasn't found by attaching bricks to the body. Whoever did this thought
it would sink down and it would stay down but
this person hadn't taken into consideration that when you pass away the body kind of like fills up with gases and you get bloated and like full of gas it brought him to the
surface of the water. Like it was stronger than the 11 brick. So later yes, the victim was identified to
be Andrea's brother Stephen. And then a murder
investigation was now underway. You know when they look at Stephen's body and they examine the rope and they see that this rope was a special kind of rope, a rope that is only used and issued to all of the official firefighters. Do you remember what I said Leonard does? Well if you don't remember
what I said Leonard worked as a firefighter so. So when Andrea found
out all this information she knew it was Leonard. Leonard is brought in to
be questioned by police. This is where Leonard
got really difficult. So he petitioned his right to silence and he refused to speak. He refused to speak about
where he was the night that Stephen was murdered,
pretty much anything. He just refused to speak. Now remember, this is the eighties and this is also Australia so I don't even know how
the laws work in general. But back then from my understanding you had to have physical
evidence to charge someone with a crime. The fireman's rope links to Leonard 'cause he's a firefighter,
but at the same time they don't have any proof
that it's Leonard's rope. Do you see what I'm saying? So they really couldn't
do anything about it. Police, they searched Leonard's property and the only piece of
evidence they could find, a piece of paper and it has
the word rope written on it. They don't find any other
evidence and because of that they are unable to charge
Leonard with anything. There's gonna be a lot
of names thrown at you throughout this whole thing. I'ma try my best to keep it simple. We'll see how that goes. Enter Judy. (chuckles) So Judy is Andrea and Stephen's sister. The whole family is devastated by the loss of their brother, Stephen. But Judy, she ends up finding
comfort in a new religion and she becomes a member
of the Jehovah's Witness. So she invites Andrea and Trudy to join a few of their meetings
with her and suggest maybe they become members of the
Jehovah Witness as well. Like it's comforting to
have this sense of community especially in a time of loss. Now that will be important later. So going back to the family law court. So the judge who had first
heard Andrea and Leonard's case, his name was Justice David Opas. Now correct me if I'm wrong Australia but from my understanding
they use the word Justice in front of their names when
they're like a judge, correct? So you know how we call
people like Judge Judy, that's like the only judge I know but they say Justice Judy. This guy, his name was Justice David Opas. He was the one who first took
care of Andrea and Leonard their custody battle and
divorce and stuff like that. So he was the one that
granted Andrea full custody of Trudy with only visitation for Leonard. Now over time, Leonard
was just being a shithead, not following the law
and not even listening to anything Justice Opas
was telling Leonard to do and Leonard had proven
over and over again, that he was not gonna obey court orders. Like Justice Opas he
threatens to charge Leonard with contempt of court and also orders Leonard's visitations stop until their next court hearing as punishment because he's not file, wow I just had the biggest brain fart that following the rules pretty much. So this pisses Leonard off. He wants his daughter Trudy and he even said nobody
is gonna get in his way. So then June of 1980, Justice
Opas returns home from work and this is just before like 7:00 PM. He's about to sit down
for dinner with his wife and two kids. And when he's like
getting ready to sit down the doorbell rings and while getting up to go answer the door, the fire alarm from next door goes off. So there's this loud like, did you like my fire alarm? (laughs) You know how fire alarms are, they're just loud and annoying. But it's going off. Like it's really loud. So Justice Opas, he opens the front door and instantly when he opens the front door he is immediately shot by a point 22, the same gun that was used
on Stephen in the stomach. The noise of the shot
it's not very noticeable because of the loud fire
alarms coming from next door. But after like a little bit
of time his wife notices that he's been at the front door for a while so I should like go check on him. So she goes over to the front door and she finds him on
his back unresponsive. So police and ambulances
have a delayed response time due to another emergency phone call of a random bomb explosion. Sadly justice Opas was dead. Investigation starts right away and since the family court can be a place where like emotions run really high and people are really off all the time, it's hard for investigators to narrow down who exactly would do this to Justice Opas. A $100,000 reward is posted
for information on his death and people start to think
that maybe the bomb explosion had been intended to be a way
to hold up emergency officials in the first place which
is why it took so long to get to Justice Opas' residence. So then investigators they
pretty much make up this list of upset men that have been
clients of Justice Opas and would rule them out like one by one because a lot of them had solid alibis. Once they got to Leonard's
name on the list, they're like here's that
name again, Leonard. So immediately investigators
go over to Leonard's, they get like a, I think a warrant. I'm not sure what it's,
yeah and investigators they search Leonard's home and they find government
toilet paper in his property which was taken from his work as a fireman so they charge Leonard with theft so they can get his fingerprints. And this might not make a lot of sense but they knew Leonard was
tied to what was going on, but they didn't have physical
evidence to arrest him, right? So when they were going and
they were searching his house, they were like, we just gotta
find something to arrest him so we can get his fingerprints,
we can get him booked and then hopefully get
them to confess, right? So that's what they did. They're searching his home and they find something
as simple as toilet paper. I've also heard it was towels, so one of those or
maybe neither either way it was taken from his place of work. So when they saw that they
were like, "Okay, that's it. We'll just book him on that and then we can get them in there." So they take him on that and then they get his
fingerprints and whatnot and then once again when
Leonard was being questioned he refused to speak to investigators. He maintained his right to silence. He refused to answer questions and his reasoning was that because he didn't wanna
incriminate himself. There was no physical evidence
to charge Leonard with. When they had Leonard in their custody it was frustrating because
they couldn't get anything. They couldn't get
anything from him, right? So they had no choice. They had to let him go,
which is like oh my God. This what I wanted to scream. Now comes Justice Richard Gee. Now he stepped in to
take over Justice Opas. Wait, what was his name?
Justice Gee was now responsible for Andrea and Leonard's case. In 1981, Justice Gee ruled
that Andrea and Leonard their house, it needed to
be sold and that the money would be equally divided
between the couple. At that time Leonard was
living in it, not Andrea so this would mean Leonard
would have to move out. So of course this doesn't happen. And then in 1983, Justice Gee pushes again that the house needs to be sold and he enforces lesser visitation rights for Leonard to see his daughter. Of course, once again, the cycle begins. This pisses Leonard off
and he doesn't comply. He's not gonna move out and he's not gonna see
less of his daughter. So of course during Leonard's visitation, he would again keep
Trudy for way too long. If it was supposed to be two days he would keep her for four days and it was this constant
just back and forth and he was just making
Andrea's life a living hell and poor Trudy she was
just in the middle of it. I forgot about her. That so sad. Of course Andrea then
goes to the family court to let them know that
Leonard has had Trudy for far too long, he's not giving her back and Justice Gee, he orders
a warrant for police to take Trudy from Leonard and
bring her back to her mother. And, (chuckles) Leonard was upset. This man knew he just. On the night of April, I don't
know the date, April, 1984, it was late at night. And inside the family court building, a bomb went off destroying
half of the building. It was believed that this
bomb was supposed to go off in the morning when it
was filled with workers but luckily it went off in
the middle of the night. There was like a janitor there I believe but they were uninjured luckily. So this happens and then soon after, Justice Gee and his two
sons are asleep at home and it's about 1:30 in the morning, everyone is sound asleep
and a bomb goes off in front of his house and it completely destroys
Justice Gee's home. Now, there were reports saying, if you were looking at the house, you couldn't even tell it was a house and they thought there's no
way anybody survived this. There's just no way. But luckily, somehow
miraculously nobody's killed. They have some serious
injuries but they were alive and they were going to be okay, the children and Justice Gee. So Justice Gee was taken to the hospital and that's where police meet up with him and ask him a couple of questions,
who could have done this? Do they even need to ask? Justice Gee doesn't even hesitate and he's like Leonard, Leonard. So, (laughs) I know this
is like so exhausting but this is, like what the fuck? Right? That was my responses the whole time when I was reading this
one I was like, "What?" Once again Leonard is the prime suspect. He had no alibi and when he
was brought in for questioning, you guessed it. He said nothing. He refused to answer any questions and police could not find
any evidence linking him to the crimes. Nothing. We have a new judge or justice. So his name is Justice Watson. He took over Leonard's and Andrea's case the day after Justice
Gee's house was bomb. This new justice is definitely reluctant to take on this case because
of this ongoing pattern that's been happening. There were extra security
measures that were brought in to keep members safe and the
cycle started all over again. So Justice Watson he also restricted
Leonard's time with Trudy. This pissed Leonard off. Leonard didn't wanna
listen to court orders and he would keep Trudy. He would show up on his own
terms and it was just a mess. On the morning of July 4th, 1984, Justice Watson and his wife they were getting ready for
the day, leaving to go to work and Justice Watson, his
wife went to the front door and she opened it 'cause she's leaving and as soon as she opened
the door, a bomb goes off. Sadly, his wife was killed
instantly and Justice Watson, he was injured with like the debris and he was taken to the
hospital for his injuries. Once again, Leonard was
interviewed the same night of the bombing and he
just refused to speak. It gets just exhausting, right? I know, I know. I couldn't
believe this was a real story. Anyways, police investigators they end up searching his house and the fire station where he worked. They find no physical evidence and they can't charge him with anything because of that. Nothing. The investigators knew like,
dude it's it's Leonard. We have to figure this out
but they can't do anything. All of the evidence is
circumstantial and it's not physical and at this point in
the law, in the eighties you couldn't arrest someone based off of circumstantial evidence. It had to be hardcore physical proof. Now like people are
really reluctant to work for the family court due to like fears, legitimate fear for their
safety and their family safety. There were employees who were quitting because of what was going on and then there were
also employees who just weren't even showing up. They were like working from home or just like not coming in at all. Do you blame them? And then this case pretty
much turns into the and one of the longest cases
in the history of Australia. So time goes on and in February of 1985, Leonard goes to Andrea's
home demanding to have Trudy. Leonard ends up getting
physical with Andrea and he's trying to take
Trudy away from her. I just had deja vu. Whoa. Leonard gets physical with Andrea and tries to take Trudy from her but Andrea was able to
like get away from him and lock herself in their home
until Leonard finally left. Why the police wasn't called
I'm not really fully sure but at this point,
Andrea realizes she needs she just needs to get the hell
out of Sydney for her safety, for her daughter's safety and
for everybody else's safety. So Andrea ends up calling her sister Judy to help her pack and leave. Now at this time Andrea
had a new legal counsel. His name was Gary Watts and he advised Andrea to
be more harsh with Leonard. He knew of the history. When Leonard found out who the
new legal counsel was well, guess who was the new target? I feel so bad because you know like no one really wanted
to work with Andrea because of this whole mess
and it's like, this poor girl. Gary Watts, the new legal counsel he recently had sold his property and it was also then being
rented out to a man named Peter and his two siblings. So Peter had gone outside
to work on his car because he had to take
it in to get registered. You know how that goes? You need to like fix it up so it passes. Anyways, so Peter lifts
up the roof of his car. No, not the roof, what's it called? Hood. Peter, he lifts up the hood of his car and he's gonna like
fixing or tuning things up and then guess what he finds? He finds what looks to
be a goddamn bomb inside of the engine or it's
like next to the engine. It's somewhere in there. Peter off got so lucky. The bomb, it didn't go off. But if the car was started,
it would have gone off and he would have, he would have died. Police were called. It at first seems kind of random, because this Peter guy he
has like no connection. Why would he be a target? But they soon realized or
they put the pieces together that the address was listed
still as being Gary's address and it was like public information. Because of that, Leonard he must have
gotten the information, assumed that that was his house and went and put the bomb in his car,
thinking it was Gary's car. Now this information about
the bomb it gets back to Andrea who knows once
again it was Leonard and she's like that's it. We need to get out ASAP. So she calls her sister Judy. Judy asked the Jehovah Witness
community to help Andrea and Trudy, which they find
somebody who could rent out the home that Andrea was staying at. So Judy and friends from the
Jehovah's Witness community they help Andrea move
quickly like out of Sydney. And then at this time,
Andrea's legal counsel, Gary, Gary Watts the one where the
bomb was supposed to be at he resigns for his own safety and so he steps away from helping Andrea. So once again, the cycle repeats, okay? Leonard's home is searched,
no physical evidence is found. Also police investigators they
question Leonard's coworkers and their coworkers are
like, yeah, he's just he's really standoffish. He's kind of mean. They tell investigators
like he likes to hunt and he likes pornography but not much else that
they could tell him. So Leonard like tries to
go get Trudy or something but he eventually finds
out that Andrea and Trudy they left. So when he finds out that they're gone and they left the home, he loses his shit. So Leonard is asking around like if anybody knows their whereabouts and he's just becoming
more and more upset. Leonard, he knew that
Andrea's sister, Judy was a Jehovah Witness and he
calls the congregation asking do you know where Andrea and Trudy are at? Or do you know where Judy is at? Do you know where they move to? Do you know what happened to them? Most people would deny and
say that they didn't know where they went but
one person told Leonard that they went up north. Specify where they went he just said that they went up north. So Leonard is like these people, the Jehovah's Witness people
they know where they're at and they're not telling me. It pisses him off. And so Leonard has this great idea. He's like I'm gonna break into
the Jehovah Witness church which I guess he was gonna look
for any type of information, paperwork he's looking for
anything that will give him an idea or a clue or a location of where Trudy and Andrea are. The people who worked at the church came to the congregation the next day, they see that somebody broke in because there is a
broken window, but also, there was blood on the window. So there was a broken window and whoever like crawled through
the window, cut themselves, they left their blood on the window. So police were called and
they kind of just thought it was local homeless people who broke in because nothing was stolen or
damaged besides the window. But like there was nothing
else that was messed with. Anyways but police did
take a sample of the blood that was on the window
area, but at this point, DNA testing, wasn't a thing yet. They could test the blood and find out what blood type it was
but that was about it. A week later, that same
window was broken into and it was just assumed
that it was just again, hoodlums because nothing was stolen and nothing was really messed with. But that following,
okay this motherfucker. During a church service at
the Jehovah Witness church or congregation, I'm not sure if they call
it church, either way. A bomb explodes in the middle of service. Many people were injured and
sadly one member was killed. They were lucky though that the bomb didn't make
the building cave in, instead it made the
building explode outwards but it was completely destroyed. Immediately Leonard is the prime suspect. At this point, Judy, Andrea,
they had moved out to Forster. I guess I should have
looked up where that was. Police ended up contacting Judy and Andrea and they let them know
like what had happened. And sadly Judy just really blamed herself. She just felt really guilty
that she had caused this to her congregation, her
church, to her community, just really sad. And she tells police, it has
it's fucking Leonard like, I'm sorry for laughing but,
when police are asking like do you have any idea who this could be? It's like you guys, it's fucking Leonard. Anyways so once again fuck the Leonard, he's brought in for an interview. And at this time he had a new girlfriend and her name was Lorraine. Lorraine is quoted as being
"A rather low class girl with tattoos in a rough
manner," end quote. Feel like this is a personal attack so she's also questioned. And Lorraine is kind
of like a blabber mouth and she was telling the police
that Leonard was looking for Andrea and Trudy, that he
was getting really agitated and annoyed and Leonard
pretty much shuts it down and he tells police investigators he's not allowed to interview her anymore. She has a right to silence
and he like shuts her up. Which is unfortunate
'cause it seems like she, they probably could have got
some information from her but damn Leonard, he knew his rights. And again once they questioned Leonard they got absolutely nothing from him. So at this point police were like, okay we need a different
approach you guys. So they decide that they are gonna give Leonard
constant surveillance. Undercover cops are just gonna follow him. They put a tracking device on his car. They have these undercover police officers like following Leonard everywhere but they're keeping a
distance trying to make sure that they're not caught. But because Leonard is
Leonard, he caught on. He knew that there were undercover cops and he would start doing
like little weird things just to kind of throw them off. He would just kind of
drive in like circles leading them nowhere. He would do like load
up his car with stuff and then go back into the house
and it just kind of messing with the undercover police officers. He would also go up to them when they were sitting in their car and he would ask if they
wanted a coffee or something. So he knew. So at this point, Andrea was exhausted as I'm sure any of us would be and she felt like she was responsible for all of these deaths and
she said, you know what? I'm just gonna surrender
custody of Trudy to Leonard in hopes that the attacks and the deaths and the murders will end. Now at first when I read
this, I was like, wait, what? You're gonna hand over your
child to this psycho man. If I were in her shoes, I don't
know what I would do either. I mean it seems like she's
trying everything you know? And I don't, yeah,
don't blame her I guess. So ever since Andrea
gave up custody of Trudy, the bombings and murder had stopped. And then according to Andrea,
Trudy had lived with Leonard until she was about 16
and Leonard remarried and the wife didn't get along with Trudy and Trudy then moved out. Poor Trudy. I hope she is okay. So due to lack of sufficient evidence, the case goes cold for 30 years. A joke, right? I know, you
don't got to tell me that twice. So the investigation continues
and in 2012 detectives went through the case again,
since the laws had changed. So they were going
through their cold cases, taking a look at them again. In 2015, Leonard was finally
charged with 32 charges, four charges of murder were
amongst those 32 charges. At that time in 2015,
he was then 68 years old when he was arrested. Investigators say that they
discovered new evidence with technology that
wasn't around back then when the crimes were committed. Now they were able to get
DNA from the blood evidence that they got way back
from the church window. As of right now July of 2019, a trial hasn't even taken place yet. Yeah, he's just in
prison waiting for trial. Leonard is now 72. He was claiming that like
his lawyer was bullying him to his legal representative
decided to pull out and stop representing him
and then he didn't have money to get someone to represent
him and you can't go to trial if you don't have
somebody representing you and it's just been this whole mess. Also Leonard stands by the
fact that he is not guilty to these charges and he stands by that. As far as what happened to
Trudy and Andrea, I don't know. I guess Trudy got married and
she has children of her own, Andrea poor Andrea. They were just put through the most. I'm not sure where Andrea is at. I was kind of looking up where Trudy was but I felt like you know, this, I'm sure she doesn't want that shit. You know? just leave them alone. And that is exhausting
story about Leonard. And now the laws are different. You can arrest somebody if there
is circumstantial evidence. Of course more goes into
that but it's not like it was when this shit went down. It's just gotten better. Exhausting. This man did so
much damage, it's insane. I just have to say this. If you or a loved one are
experiencing domestic abuse, you can get help and you can
get the F out of there. Okay? I know if you are stuck in the cycle it may seem like you are
trapped and can't go anywhere. You don't have anywhere to go. You don't have money. You don't have anything that
could help you get away. But I am going to list
in the description box where you can find help in your area because there are tons of
programs that you can go to and programs that will
help you find safe places. You can get out. So I guess we will see
what happens to Leonard. I have a good feeling that
he's gonna be found guilty. Let me know your thoughts
down below on this, this case. Also really quick, if you
don't follow me like on Twitter or Instagram Live, I was on Instagram Live for like three hours the other night and I was talking about, if you watched my Toy-Box Killer video, was about the Toy-Box
Killer and Elephant Butte, truth or consequences T or C. Whatever. Anyways, news came out
the other day that Cindy, David's girlfriend, the bitch is getting out Monday. Oh shit, today. Fuck, she's out right now. Can you believe it? Yeah. I'm not even kidding. When I read that, I was
like, wait, what, what what. She's getting out today, Monday. She served 80% of her sentence. They said that she had good behavior. Who knows what the hell she's gonna do? I'm so confused because like
the Toy-Box thing was f'd up. How is she getting? Be safe out there please. Be safe out there. Truth or consequences. She's coming for you. Maybe she's changed. Anyways, (chuckles) I hope you
have a wonderful day today. Don't forget to check
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