LION EL'JONSON AND CYPHER! UNITED BY THE EMPEROR?

hey everyone wolf Loro here today we discuss lion l Johnson and Cipher as we ask if we could see a connection to their stories General spoiler warning to begin as today we will be referencing events from across the Warhammer 40K Universe in particular the novel The Lion Son of the forest and Cipher lord of the Fallen as always I really recommend you read the stories for yourself first without spoilers as that's the best way to enjoy the law for yourself but with that said let's waste no time and just jump straight in so the Dark Angels from the first Legion to The Unforgiven a legacy shrouded in Secrets circles within circles knowledge hidden restricted a mystery to those outside the biggest of which since the days of the heresy has undoubtedly been the enigmatic Cipher his identity his purpose his loyalty all unknown a riddle attempted to be solved by each successive Supreme Grandmaster most often resulting in disaster while many of the an ancient Legion may possibly recognize the face beneath his shrouded Hood there is only one who we can say for absolute certainty would recognize and know his name the dark Angel's Primark lion l Johnson he is the only being in existence who knows every secret of the first and there is no name amongst his one-time Legion he doesn't know and now we have El Johnson returned so will we see the two interact come face to face will there be a connection between their stories well it's an absolute forone certainty to me that El Johnson would have heard of the hunt for Cipher and most definitely would have read every piece of Unforgiven history available from the successor chapters to the private logs of the Supreme Grand Masters Hilby is clued up on just what's happened to his chapter and successes over the past 10,000 years as he can be and you'd expect him to have his own suspicions on Cipher's identity the lion sword upon his back quite possibly a clue only El Johnson can realize whether Cipher would receive El Johnson's offer of redemption however well that remains to be seen but I think there could be a very interesting connection between their two future stories something that could lead to not only their meeting but the possible development after too and that is the Emperor of mankind within the novel Cipher Lord of the Fallen we saw Cipher in the immediate time after route Gilman's Teran Crusade the initial Journey Gilman made after his Reawakening from Ultramar to the throne World Cipher having aided Gilman on this quest in exchange for an audience with the emperor instead was betrayed by Gilman and thrown into jail beneath the palace whereupon the events of the story see him escape with his fellow fallen and attempt to reach the throne room now it was the end of this story that's the important part as standing before one of the final doors to the throne room itself Cipher was confronted by a custodian named hearon who had been hunting him throughout the palace now hearon had witnessed a vision on the C of death of a figure showing him all the things that could transpire if Cipher were to enter the throne room everything from stabbing the emperor to offering the lion sword as Penance and a ton of unknown possibilities the obvious implication here is that harkaran believed that this was the emperor showing him these visions and then rising up from apparent death hearon cut off Cipher before the door uttering the message of not yet you may pass no further says hikon the warden of the Dark Cells stands at the end of the bridge his Guardian spear is upright in his hand his armor is cracked and stre with blood his face a mass of clotting wounds but he is unmoving poised a sentinal of broken gold I look at the custodian our gazes lock I knew you would be here I say you could not have known that he replies someone like you had to be here hearon gives the smallest of nods and here I am I shake my head I have given everything to be here I say and I can hear the weariness in my voice yes says hiar on but I have a duty I must perform and you cannot pass then all must be as it must I remain still not the Stillness of Readiness but of consideration I am wondering if I should kill hikon he is wondering if I can I know where you are going says hikon and perhaps why you cannot know that I say you asked me once if I wanted to know a secret now I tell you that I have something that I must say to you and that you must hear I will pass here I say you are bound to try and stop me one will live that is the only answer that matters what can be said that can change anything not yet says hikon I blink once hearon does not move but waits as the beat of his heart passes in silence is that a message karon tilts his head the choice is yours heed what has been said and go from this place or continue you are a Jailer and a custodian you cannot let me go I have my duty and I serve one thing Above All Else while it's of course open to interpretation the obvious conclusion your mind leaps to or at least mind does is that this is a message from the emperor at the very least it's certain that hearon believed it to be so and after delivering this message he would succumb to his wounds falling dead before the door to the throne room and so we have the tantalizing possibility Cipher is working for the emperor at least in some way how that makes sense given all the time ciphers turned up alongside the forces of chaos I don't know we're just going to have to shelf that for now and when it comes to El Johnson of course we have already seen the emperor instrumental to his story The Strange Imperial Building within the calaban for walkways in which the lion felt his father's presence as he was awarded the emperor's shield and then of course we have the mysterious dying King within the forest too who I've spoken about previously believing to be an aspect of the emperor in some way too a figure El Johnson needs to ask the right question of to gain his attention if indeed this does prove to be the emperor I think it's a logical assumption the lion will have to do something for him to help him in some way and considering its possible Cipher could be working for the emperor to and given the obvious link with El Johnson that he has I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility for their quests or objectives to become intertwined it's actually the moment the lion considers his father's Divinity within the novel The Lion Son of the forest that makes me wonder of a possible link with Cipher the emperor must be allowed to die sarax says raising his staff the drops of blood begin to smoke and the smoke weaves outwards along the lines marked into the Floor Death is only the beginning for one such as him only then can he Ascend fully into the wp as the true God he is once there no longer enfeebled by the anchor of his broken mortal body he will destroy the ruinous powers and the Wailing deities of the Zeno races and oversee Humanity's Second Great Crusade the lion stares at him it sounds ridiculous fanciful foolish foolish and yet the forces woried by the followers of chaos are undoubtedly powerful foul though they are to label them as Gods offends the Lion's sensibilities but there is no other convenient word that will Encompass them in that case while the lion does not and will never consider his father a god might the term not similarly be used for an immen L potent psychic who lived for Millennia before revealing himself to humanity and has now persisted for 10,000 more years after taking what should have been a mortal wound for a psycher capable of sending a psychic signal out through the W so powerful that most of the Galaxy was able to use it to navigate who created such remarkable beings as the lion himself bringing about life in a process which must have involved more than just the skilled manipulation of organic matter as much as I can never imagine the lion contemplating his father's death as much as it seems anfa to his very being for me there's a lot about this new l Johnson that's unexpected to say the least if this is a route we do see El Johnson debate in becoming involved with the developing Starchild narrative well that would fit in extremely well with Cipher being told not yet that maybe the emperor knows all too well he does need to be released from the throne to win this war to be reborn and truly lead a glorious new Crusade against the ruin Powers but that he needs to time it precisely right or everything could well be lost and so for all the forces of chaos out there seeking the star child for all the Agents of the Inquisition maybe it could end up being the lion and Cipher who are the force truly working under the emperor's Guidance the emperor depending on the first as he always did a legion whose loyalty he never doubted even in the darkest days of the heresy the only ones he can trust to do exactly what he needs them to do it's incredibly unlikely incredibly unlikely but I do think we could well see some form of link and crossover between scy and the lion as we move forward and that it could well concern their duty to the emperor perhaps finally revealing just who Cipher is but as always everyone what do you think do you think we could see a link between Cipher and lion l Johnson in regards to the emperor is cipher truly working for the Emperor or if not then just who could have sent that message will we see the lion meeting Cipher face to face and will the lion recognize the sun beneath the hood will it be revealed to us the reader or maybe do you think it will be kept a secret that the lion knows for well who Cipher is but we never get to see at least not yet but as always everyone leave your thoughts in the comments below huge thank you to all my subscribers your support truly means a lot to me it really does if you're new please consider subscribing to help the channel grow and if you enjoyed this particular vid then why not drop a like on it too but with that said I am off and I'll see you all again real soon

Channel: Wolf Lord Rho

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Keywords: dark angels, lion el'jonson, cypher, emperor of mankind, gods of chaos, space marines, primaris, warhammer 40k, horus heresy

Id: Si0U87SvfyE

Length: 15min 0sec (900 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 14 2024