Last Epoch - Trade or Self-Found? | Factions Explained

hey guys paon here and today let's talk about the decision of whether you should be going trade or sell found on last ooks 1.0 release so before we go into the nitty-gritty kind of the theory crafting of how this might play out I have to quickly talk about how last OK actually wants its trading and self-found economy to work so usually RPGs have a pretty hard decision to make do they want an auction house do they want trading more like in P Exile do they want no trading at all and there was actually a time where last T said we don't want want trading we don't want an auction house we just want this raw experience but then they came up with a pretty genius idea that they basically said we're going to support whatever you want to play and out of that came probably one of the most revolutionary ideas I've ever seen in an RPG when it comes to solving that issue now the way this is going to work is there is going to be two different item factions one is going to be for cell found so you cannot trade with other people and the other is going to be for trade now if we for example take pav of Exile the way solo cund works is very much like like opting into hardcore you basically take a hit it's a downside but you say I can overcome this downside and therefore I'm going to go hardcore and I'm also going to go solo saon last epoch's approach on the other hand is we want you to play either or and if you make the decision of not trading with people we want to give you a tradeoff for that in more item drops now if you for example look at the rank rewards of the circle of Fortune you can see the first rank reward is you have 35% chance to double your loot from an enemy same with Rune of ascendant at rank two which are the runes that you use to gamble for unique items you have a 45% chance to be able to use it again you have idle drop chance you have exalted AIC drop chance these get crazier and crazier the higher you go whereas its counterpart will basically just allow you to overtime unlock all the trading market and be able to trade everything with other people now just so you know this decision is not final you can change at any point in time however it's not like you can go to the self found mode to the circle of Fortune get a drop bonus and just Farm up and then put all of that on trade later it's not how it works they're actually bound to their Guild so if you want to change you will have to have different item sets you can't just jump into trade and buy stuff for gold cuz gold you will still have so you will be able to buy adequate items and then you farm up gold and you will get your own I don't know set in that but usually people will opt into one or the other let's go into the merchant skilled first which is the trade faction the first thing I want to point out is there was just a post on on Reddit so what we thought would happen is in order to trade something let's for example say trade Idols which is rank four both you and the other person would have to be in rank four which is a pretty big deal especially if you go higher up CU you cannot really say how many people are going to be there especially if you're somebody who already played a lot right cuz 99% of people are new to the game at launch so it will take them a lot of time to accumulate that knowledge but good thing right here is that actually if you're selling an item you don't have to be that rank only if you're buying so if you know what you're doing if you're prepared you're going to have a really easy time to actually get your key unique items in trade because it isn't that hard most of them are not that hard to achieve the hard part is getting LP on it and that's more for later and for Min maxing and that is especially true for builds that need specific items and that's not just uniques that's also Idols Idols have the same effect for example if you're playing Smite but where is the problem here well the more people play something the more expensive the items we'll get and I know this as a p of Exile player and a content creator usually the builds I put out go up in price and I can't really do much about it there's obviously flippers I don't know if that's going to be an issue in last ook we'll have to see if there's like a certain limitations or whatever but if a lot of people play it the same items will be bought up and yeah you're going to be left on the way out if you play off meta that might be an upsite but you cannot forget that people might actually not even list the items that you want not everybody's going to list everything so they might just have it sitting in their stash or never even pick it up that's a problem another big upset about trade might be that you actually have more hype drops this obviously completely depends on how you play the game but no matter what item you drop you will if it is a good item you will be able to sell it whereas on sell found you might not be interested in ever making a build with that item and then it's just lying around doing nothing a big downside that I personally see is that in endgame trade might just evolve into the same farm that everybody has to do or you're inefficient the whole Market will revolve around that one gold farm that if you don't do you're just leaving money on the table in self found you can Target Farm your items and depending on what items you need at that time you will change your farm up right you will go dungeons oh today is exalted helmets let's go farm dungeons all day tomorrow it's back to monos oh I need that boss drop and stuff like that in trade it might just be exactly like in Poe you farm the most efficient thing over and over and over then let's talk about self found so self found is not riant on other people and them knowing what you want or knowing what's good which can be huge on a release once again the economy and the game is completely fresh a lot of people probably 99% plus are going in completely blind or just knowing a few YouTube videos and maybe you have already played a lot and you now only have to rely on yourself which can be a big deal however in mid game while you have to find your key items even with all those drop chance increases you're going to have a problem to find your key items unless those key items are boss drops cuz then you can just Target Farm them however once again if you're playing a meta build you might be better off in self found obviously it's hard to know but if you kind of know what's going on what Maxell puts out what YouTubers put out then you can kind of dance around that other than that I will just say and we're going to go over the rewards in a second the amount of multiplicative stuff you're getting is completely outrageous obviously until you get to Mid end game you won't have all of these Buffs but once they get going they really get going 35% more items 45% chance to keep your Rune of ascendant 25% more Idols 50% more likely that an AIX is exalted 35% double rewards in monos and these rewards are all multiplicative with each other then we have twice as much chance to get LP twice as many tier 7 affixes once again multiplicative multiplicative this one here is probably the most busted I don't know if 25 % chance whenever you drop a rare which happens all the time to just for it to become an exalted now obviously most of them are still going to be trash but now you're hitting that exalted you're probably hitting double as many exalted as you did before maybe even more number nine is a little bit goofy right whenever you drop a set you drop the whole set okay cool I guess it's maybe good once but other than that pretty useless and then items from prophecies are duplicated and we haven't even talked about prophecies which are basically these things you can buy for favor it says for example kill X boss you get eight specific Idols or you get six unique staffs or whatever there is just so many extra rewards here that entice you to go cell phone however once again until you get those ranked up in mid game it's going to be a little bit of a struggle so you want to pick builds that are a little bit more flexible if your build cannot work without these two uniques that are not boss formable you're going to have a problem these ranks go up like crazy the difference between rank six and rank 10 is probably going to be times four loot with that said in end game you're going to drop so many items especially exalted items that you're going to have to put more time into Min maxing your filter than actually Min maxing your build is going to rain you're probably not even going to show tier sixes anymore you'll be dropping double tier sevens like you have never seen before this even gets crazier in groups because in groups you can still trade with each other if you have residents so basically you can just trade with each other normally but even if your buddy is offline you can use this item called resonance and still trade with him if you've played enough before now my last take here is Maybe maybe a little bit controversial because everybody who's played trade ever knows that the people at the top will have crazy items but I do seriously think with all of these multiplayers there will be if you take a minmaxed trade player versus a min-maxed ssf player some both people play like two weeks on the same character and just grind it and grind it I think you will see one to two items on the cellone character that is absolutely going to outshine the ones on trade because there will be it items that just do not exist on trade they're just not possible with that sort of variance that you will get we're talking about double to Triple tier seven items and while yes I'm sure you will be able to get those three four LP items even on trade if you have enough gold it's going to be gold cap or whatever on those unique items you have to remember that the exalted items in sellhound will be completely outrageous and the difference between slamming like a three tier 7 item on a 3 LP unique and having like an o K exalted is a completely different world but to put this into perspective I made this real quickly if we have character power here and on the horizontal we have the time I think that trade obviously early is going to be the same or it should be the same if my drawing was better early will be the same cuz you don't have your faction yet once you get your faction I think trade will go up in power immensely especially if you don't spend gold early on like Rune of shattering or something like that and you just buy the uniques that you want you're going to be scaling quite quickly whereas in cell found at the start you don't really have anything you can't just trade at all you can't just do anything you don't even get extra power slowly but surely you will get all those multipliers to your loot and you will ramp up to a certain point but as you will see right here in mid game trade is going to overtake sell found by quite a bit however once we get into endgame right here um The Curve will get crazier and crazier meanwhile end game will flat out quite a bit cuz once people are in end game those items will be fought after vividly unless there's like a gold cap or people going to snipe it with Bots we know how people are in RPGs they're very competitive when it comes to trade meanwhile in cell found now all of a sudden you're going to be rank nine Rank 10 and all of a sudden you're going to stack prophecies you're going to drop like I don't know 200 unique staffs from an enemy to like look for that three LP staff that you need I think it's going to be completely outrageous and like I said I don't even know where the max is here on Cell found like I said this might be a hot take I think on Cell found you will see some items that you will never see on trade I'm absolute freakish items but okay all of this is complete speculation this is just how I think it will pan out it's fun to talk about these kind of things but why do I personally choose cell found I guess the first reason is I just want to experience it CU I'm usually not a cell found player in pee I really like the trading system and there's no reason for me to just penalize myself for no reason at least in my opinion but in this game you actually get more Loot and I love loot drops guess what I like more Loot on the ground pretty damn cool but there's three big reasons the first one is I don't think the auction house will work perfectly remember the auction house comes out with 1.0 it hasn't really been tested all that much I'm sure it has been tested beyond the scenes but still there might be glitches there might be abuse cases especially when it comes to gold and we've seen this in a lot of Economy based games once there is a gold abuse I mean the economy just kind of goes to and the last and probably biggest reason why I want to play it is I don't mind pivoting builds I don't mind finding something and all of a sudden building around it I'll give you an example right here I found this one the other day the Vortex pennant which isn't really that strong on its own but it has four legendary potential so the world is my oyster depending on how good my exalted item is that a slam on I get all the mods and maybe I can do something with it and all of a sudden that off meta build will be completely cracked it's obviously not the best example but let's say for example Chronicle of The Damp let's say this was 4 LP all of a sudden I can do some wandering Spirits hungering Souls memes I think that is just really fun and like I said these kind of drops are just going to happen way more on sell found and you're not even going to see SE them out on trade everything you drop is just going to be a vessel for gold for selling but yeah with that being said I don't want to necessarily sell you on Cell found I think trade is going to be absolutely busted especially in mid game and early but I think once we get to a certain point cell found can actually get super juicy and you're going to find so many more freakish items hope you enjoyed the video obviously once again I can only speculate like everybody else maybe we can start a little bit of discussion if you have a good point down in the comments I will definitely highlight it and uh yeah thank you for watching and since I still have a slogan you next [Music] time

Channel: Palsteron

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Length: 12min 44sec (764 seconds)

Published: Sun Feb 18 2024