Kyle Forgeard On The Truth About Jesse’s Fallout, The Future of Nelk, Fullsend X Rawgear Surprise

oh wow that's a big moment is it this is a huge moment dude it's not that big nah but it's it's a it's a nice like uh I don't know it's a nice moment now because we've done a podcast full circle maybe big full circle yeah a lot has happened since then we did a pod almost I think it's two years ago with not just me though no Steve was there yeah um I think Celine popped in for a little bit he's in the old set um a lot has changed since then tremendous amount is that three years ago yeah I think almost two three years ago [ __ ] yeah different crazy obviously I don't I'm not going to get into like uh you know who you are because most people who are on this channel probably are you know our audience are pretty like intercluded and know who you are they know what you've done I guess the one of the things I really want to ask you because I never really got to ask you just directly it's like how does it actually feel to have been a part of creating something so massive and it's still going forward and like because you are that guy like obviously there's all these people now who are part of it steiny myself Steve all these other characters have come to be a part of it obviously Jesse was a big part of it at a time and now you have some more people who are like management figures who are like helping you move businesses forward but what does it feel like to be that guy I'm sure you get that a lot too it's it's tough to kind of put into words right like it's just it's so surreal yeah I'm very happy though I mean I feel I'm grateful every day I'm blessed it's hard it really is hard to put it into words like it's it's very surreal you know I look back like even you say three years ago I look back and I'm just like I don't know it feels like a dream almost because three years to now it's been a huge change yeah but obviously definitely years leading up to that was also a huge change so we're along the way was like the where do you think was the absolute biggest change I don't know man I think there's so many different moments yeah and I asked this only because a lot of people come up to me and relate to my success and they they try and have have me Define like a time and it never I I like you said I never can maybe pinpoint it into like if I had to say something I think one really memorable moment up to when we kind of went more like mainstream quote unquote yeah I think it's like kind of like our partnership and relationship with like Dana White in the UFC yeah and I think it was that trip that we did to Abu Dhabi during kovid to watch the khabib fight when we flew out there met Dana White for the first time did the Abu Dhabi stuff we were the only people like in Abu Dhabi in the bubble and then the week after that we went on Air Force One and met Donald Trump and like he brought us on stage at the rally and we posted that YouTube video so I think that was like a really big big moment I think but I don't want to credit that to everything of course not but that was a thing that was the thing you think that took you from like a bunch of YouTubers making prank stuff to like like a lot more people knew you who you were I guess I can't even say that I don't know you know what there is no specific moment man like I've been doing this for I made the channel in 2010 like we've talked about stuff but dude it's so much different like I don't want to credit just to that and then like we've had Elon Musk on the podcast recently insane or like you know we've hit viral videos I can't just say it's one thing there is no one thing that you can accredit to to this you know yeah I think that's the thing people don't realize like what goes like on behind like I guess my question to you in regards to that is is it just like an everyday like you're just constantly trying to figure out what's next what are you gonna do next like trip wise or content wise or what direction you're gonna go in because I've obviously you have happy Dad you have the full sun brand you have all these things that are kind of being built around the content that you guys create but like to continue to push it Forward is it just all consuming of your time yeah I mean you know too these businesses are nothing without content yeah so no matter how rich you get or how successful you get like unless we just want to completely quit content is King right so at the end of the day we got to entertain people we got to make people laugh we got to make people watch yeah even so sometimes though but do you ever feel like you don't want to um I kind of I was talking about it on the last pod with the polo G that's not out yet but um this will probably come out before that right or no uh when is that coming up out of two like a week or whatever either way yeah um no I've hit I've hit definitely like moments where like I get you know kind of stressed or unmotivated and stuff like that yeah um dude I was telling yeah even recently like the beginning of this year I like honestly like probably like two weeks ago or like three weeks yeah two weeks ago honestly yeah I just hit a point of like [ __ ] man like I was just feeling down I don't know I don't even really know why but um level or in relationship to content um I was feeling not not just content like I I was not feeling good I was feeling like it's like yeah a little bit depressed like kind of just anxious I think it was just a build up of like stress and not taking a break ever because like I never really take a break yeah right so I was kind of feeling this way and I was just I was just feeling like I was just like anxious for no reason like I couldn't even think of why I was just like yo why am I feeling like this like I think you just need to point your nervous system and it's not like I was like partying a lot or like doing [ __ ] [ __ ] I was like still working out like being healthy and I was just like I didn't know why I was feeling like this and then I kind of just decided to yeah I told you I went to Palm Springs and just chilled I got a question about the way you feel right like how would you describe the feelings is it just you're just like uh you feel in your heart it's like a flutter kind of in my heart and then just like just like anxious like just kind of like worried yeah worried just like uneasy all the time that's what I was feeling like at the kind of like the beginning of January yeah and then we went and it wasn't uh when I went to Russia I was good it was honestly just um it was like at the end of Russia I was just like posting a lot of [ __ ] like watching numbers like yeah it's kind of like a high of this social media [ __ ] too right like even that house [ __ ] like that [ __ ] was going pretty viral like the numbers were crazy yeah so I think it was a lot of like I was posting a lot I was always on my phone and then there was some like stuff that kind of happened behind the scenes that like kind of triggered some [ __ ] I think yeah something stressful but yeah and I don't know I came back home and I just wasn't feeling good I was feeling like dude do I even want to do this like anymore I kind of feel like dude I've been there yeah and I just felt that way before a little bit but maybe not to this point I felt it before like sometimes you get down and you're just like damn like [ __ ] is this really for me anymore like I've been doing this for so long because I think it also stems from I'm older now right so I can't do it's not the same [ __ ] that I was doing when I was 21 or 20 or 19. well it's also so so you're constantly trying to live up to that too and I think you're reading comments you know like people like and there's not a lot of negativity with us too but you still read them you see them right and I think that kind of [ __ ] with your head a lot too yeah you know people are always now that we're at the top too people have no sympathy for you the big like the bigger you get is a quote unquote famous person or a celebrity but less sympathy people have for you like oh he's Rich who gives a [ __ ] like yes right so they're more harsh on you any little mistake you get they're [ __ ] coming for your throat common for your throat so I think it's a lot the stakes are higher now and it's a lot tougher so yeah even even on that front I mean just the amount though of like money and everything that's also behind this is so much more it's a lot of steak like we have an office I got [ __ ] 20 employees probably that are depending on me too yeah right and then just the fans too the main thing is the fans I don't want to let the fans down right like that that's it's a lot of pressure I think and as I get older it's tough to do the [ __ ] that we used to do yeah so you know reading comments and just like I think I think it just got to a point where it just kind of [ __ ] with my head and I I really took a step back and just realized like yo I haven't took in a break in probably like two years and but what I mean by a break is like dude I just want to get off social media for a bit like yeah just for like a few days yeah like because I for us I don't think a vacation is um like you shouldn't even really be looking at business texts oh bro like I could take a day off but if I look at my phone I'm gonna get 20 texts throughout the day for 20 different people something I could read like you know trigger stress and stuff like that too so I just I just decided to get away for a few days and I literally kind of made sure [ __ ] was taken care of like we got back from Russia the editors were editing the video and I didn't have to look at it for five days the podcast was done I told steiny [ __ ] step up on the Pod for me so I just [ __ ] just kind of got away and turned my phone off for like yeah you need it five days I don't think just complete I just put it in the safe in the hotel room yeah it's such a crazy thing because I I over all these years of me doing all this stuff as well I I've never taken a break it's always been like it's important yeah I know that's right that I'm learning that's what I realized like yeah when I when I and I've done this in the past I've turned off my phone completely and just put it away and like dude it feels really good and I think half the thing it's just like social media is really I don't want to be that guy too I'm not trying to be psychic woke [ __ ] loser like [ __ ] social media because those people are like bro grow the [ __ ] up yeah yeah um it really is bad for you in high doses for sure if you never take a break it's really really bad for you just like the way I think of it too is like yeah so there's the business side like reading all the [ __ ] but then even just consuming social media [ __ ] yeah like I feel like our brains don't have enough room for all the information digesting like when you're watching People's like Instagram stories and stuff like that you're just like storing all that info in your brain and you don't even realize it like if you're watching someone's story on like New Year's Eve or some [ __ ] right like then if someone asks you like a week later like yo what did this person do on New Year's like you could probably tell them like if you saw their story and you're like holy [ __ ] like I didn't even really notice that and I stored that info bro it's so accurate it's so interesting because like I don't think people realize in doing that how much other things like the other things that are actually important for you you're like not allowing space in your brain that's true yeah because you're just constantly like almost just stacking all this new stuff and then there's maybe these other things that maybe you haven't dealt with or things that you should be actually thinking of that it's just like go to the Wayside I remember it must have been a few weeks ago I was sitting on Tick Tock and scrolling and I literally I remember we're only thinking like holy [ __ ] I can't I almost couldn't stop myself where I had to like I was like yo what the [ __ ] I had to like turn my phone off and be like what the [ __ ] wrong with me I know like it's a very like Tick Tock specifically is like a crazy app for this yeah and I think they're just like where's the room in your brain for that [ __ ] like people didn't have that in the past right like where's your brain storing all this info that you're like consuming yeah it's [ __ ] it's it's a it's a crazy thing but let me let's get back to this uh the idea of work and like um because we talked a little bit about this but but on that note too like when I did put my phone away like you realize how much you check it it's like like every time I would get out of the car like I didn't have my phone on so I still had my car oh you're like this bro every time you get out of the car like that's true you reaching like you check your phone on the way like into somewhere like probably if you're walking into the gym everything you're probably like looking at your phone quick and stuff like that so I noticed like every time and I was like wait like I don't have it or like let's say you're meeting someone in like a hotel lobby yeah like yo be down in five you get there two minutes earlier what are you doing like you're going on your phone yeah like I would sit in the lobby and be like oh [ __ ] like I actually have to just like chill here so it's it's interesting how much you like don't even realize yeah and I just felt I feel like it just cured me so it's really not like I had some because I was getting worried I was like damn do I have some [ __ ] type of anxiety now and [ __ ] but I was really just like damn I just needed a break a break I just needed a break bro like and now I know like like I would wake up in the morning too and just instantly look at my phone yes like at [ __ ] like 7am alarm goes off what do you do grab your phone I had to stop iMessage business texts are already there go on social media so now I'm just like for this whole month I've just been not even have it on do not disturb and I just don't even look at text or anything until like 9 A.M after the gym and it feels smart it feels so good and then at night like come like 7 38 like phones away I'm not [ __ ] looking at it yeah and feel dude I feel like I'm not how long have you been doing that I've been doing that like all this year even even like last year I started putting my phone away at like seven because people are just blowing me up about random [ __ ] so many people you know what I mean I'm too accessible so I think that's something that's helped me like a lot yeah absolutely um And in regards to I guess work in general overall like we were kind of talking about you know delegating like stuff to Stein as far as like producing this podcast stuff are you gonna be doing more of that kind of stuff and because like it's hard because doing what delegating yeah like like uh yeah taking a step back uh I don't know if it's taking a step back because yeah well I'm I'm really good at delegating [ __ ] I mean that's kind of where we are where we are like you if you want to be a boss you got to learn how to delegate [ __ ] for sure like the people that make it are the people that like know how to do something and then technically if it's something that someone else can do teach them how to do it you should just teach them how to do it and you shouldn't be doing it and then you move on to the next step like yo what's now I'm gonna make the next move for the business right like now I'm gonna start working on this so it's not really taking a step back but definitely I realized when I took some time off too like there's a lot of capable people and I think when I'm around people just kind of lean on me anymore I'm talking about just tiny but a lot of people um so I think that's something I already did right when I got back I was just like yo you're doing this you're doing this you're doing this like I've been I post I like every time we drop a YouTube video or a podcast I'm the one that like no I know I post the stories like post on Instagram then go to Snapchat post on Snapchat like copy the YouTube link post the swipe up link like I was was the one doing that until honestly like no I remember watching you maybe like I don't know officially like two days ago I know I watched you from the beginning yeah like when a YouTube video comes out I gotta spend an hour on my phone yeah I watch you do it right so it's like dude now I'm just like maybe the sometimes the story sequence isn't going to be the exact perfect way that I want it but I teach them what I know you know I keep the first story side like super Visual and entertaining yeah don't make people skip it just try to teach them Brad's the master of Instagram stories yeah always watch your stories and I'm like yeah yeah you toss a little poll right at the beginning yeah yeah no I've learned I've learned the key right [ __ ] polls are here we'll drop that yeah because it's the easiest way to get people to engage with the post yes and if they think it's a poll yeah and then if they engage with the post yeah I think it's gonna move up on the top of the rankings on people's stories exactly it's exactly what happens the poll um no you you nailed it man I mean so I guess to that regard do you ever feel like afraid to or I mean at one point you must have been afraid to step away because you weren't doing it yeah because it felt like you're just on you just it just gets bigger and bigger like I mean I used to edit all the milk videos too pretty much right crazy then eventually you know you let someone else edit it I've luck luckily we're enough to meet [ __ ] Oscar yeah so I don't even want I can't edit even close to what that guy could do so you let him take over that you know and then yeah you just gotta it's tough though it's tough to find people so it's not like you can just find someone and just say take over this like the struggle really is finding capable people yeah that you know how it is right it's tough to hire people and then teach them and then hope they stay yeah because a lot of people you teach and they [ __ ] they're like cool I'm gonna go do this yeah or they get greedy or [ __ ] yeah it is tough but delegating is definitely the key what would you say are the hardest things like the hardest learning points you've had throughout this entire journey of yours business-wise I mean yeah we've talked about this I guess it's like yeah I mean managing Talent is definitely tough yeah but then there's a lot of crazy people out there man I've been there how um oh [ __ ] I don't know how much we could talk about it but um the Bob stuff we can if you want um because so the only reason why I want to ask about this is because now that I do the podcast with you and steiny and then whoever else is rotating on there um the the Bob stuff I'm not I'm not here to shame or talk bad or but like in your words ultimately why would you say it just didn't work out the simplest way her I think he just I I guess he thought he was getting screwed but she wasn't man because I that contract is I think he thought he was getting screwed I guess um yeah yeah I think he thought he was getting screwed and yeah I think I think with Bob's like you know he I don't think he's a bad person I just think I'm not really sure I'm not really sure like you know I'm not saying that I I would personally sit down with him and like make up with him if he was willing to do that you know I don't know kind of is what it is I kind of said everything that it was without me wanting to get more you know personal or anything but I said what I could say and I think everyone that I talked to like even your mom the other day was like yo like you said it so well and it's so true yeah I was so crazy I was like I didn't want my mom watch that [ __ ] yeah again it was just like I think one thing that he was kind of overlooking was like dude you're joining something very big with a lot of infrastructure with a lot of like you know you're not just joining some random [ __ ] like you're joining one of the biggest teams yeah so I think that was kind of overlooked a little bit but it's sad man yeah yeah is very it made me very sad yeah that's wild well at least now you got steiny stove all right boys quick Interruption for one of our sponsors manscaped yes okay I've used these products before many many times I actually have like a bunch in my bathroom I've used them for my balls I'm just gonna tell you the truth this is a fact now they just sent me this beard hedger Pro kit and honestly I've I've been using like different types of uh beard trimmers for a very long time this is like honestly exceptional quality I'm I'm actually doesn't doesn't surprise me because again I have the ball trimmers I'm not gonna lie to you again and uh it doesn't it doesn't surprise me that these are equally as like sleek and and just like just high quality if you 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code code raw talk support your boy shout out manscape amazing product let's get back into this podcast so I have a question in regards to me because people ask me this all the time am I an elk member I think I mean I think you're part of the milk boys yeah I'm like the no command because I'm 33. yeah I know you like the milk uncle no we should I mean we got to do we should do a lot of content this year man yeah I want to I want to because okay in regards to this exactly the same thing I really want to ask about this and talk about this the last video you guys posted um going to Russia do you want it you want to be a part of milk boys well I want I want to be I love that content right right like that content to me because it felt a little bit different it was like a little bit more like I don't know like exploring and like almost this this is the new one yeah yeah whereas like you guys kind of it wasn't like so much prank [ __ ] it was just like you guys were just traveling and like [ __ ] having fun and black people are like [ __ ] I'm really glad we got a great response on it yeah and dude we were so happy the whole trip like we were like we genuinely enjoyed that trip which is yeah same thing we're talking about before it's like we're getting older now too and and not that we're not gonna do pranks yeah because because I still find some pranks funny but I really I'm really really happy that people enjoyed that video because I enjoyed it and I enjoyed filming it yeah I enjoyed watching the edit I enjoyed every single part of the process of that video so I think it's cool that people liked it and now I think we're gonna follow that lead and like I think we just gotta really sit down with our I'm gonna take lead on it but it's got to be only [ __ ] that we actually like yeah you know like let's not try to appeal to anyone this is what we did back in the day and it was let's stop caring what other people think let's stop you know let's just [ __ ] do what we want to do now we're older now yeah and let's just let's just do it and it's not going to be that different but it's going to be I don't know it's gonna be whatever the [ __ ] we want to do and guess what if you don't want to [ __ ] watch then don't [ __ ] watch yeah straight up I mean that's how you gotta do it I think that's how you find Ultimate success on the internet because like if you keep trying to appease people eventually you find yourself in positions where you're like and it [ __ ] with you yeah because then you live on those like highs because you want everyone to be like yo that [ __ ] was dope and you can't always have that even if you did everything you thought they wanted you wouldn't get that right every time yeah I think we'll mix it up I think we'll do some pranks too I love doing the Instagram Ram [ __ ] too I love that [ __ ] I love the quick hits yeah and like the Balenciaga one or the pumpkin one I did yeah it was funny yeah that was funny so [ __ ] like that and then we'll definitely do some pranks in the milk videos and stuff too but quicker and just only [ __ ] I find funny but dude you can't be traveling and exploring new countries that's personally like a passion of mine yeah like I [ __ ] love traveling and I love like getting that culture shock and just seeing new places and I also love to prove to people that I think you can go to any country on this planet if done properly you can go anywhere and there's like a [ __ ] Russia yeah and everyone said don't go and blah blah blah like people are still calling us stupid for going but it's like dude I'm back here we made an amazing video you can you can go anywhere if you do it right and you link with the right people for sure I want to go to North Korea one day that's insane we will go yeah he [ __ ] that'd be the you know honestly like that I think that might be our last video ever because we don't come back or what no just I don't know yeah because it's like where do you go from there I think we're gonna go to North Korea one day I really do if we if we go to North Korea you got to think about that because it's like no one's we get invited though like it'd be like Dennis Rodman went you he said it's lit I believe you I believe you but like do you think do you think they have ski resorts they like and everything's like private but we'd have to get invited like we're not just gonna you can't even fly to North Korea so the way I'm thinking about it is I think we'll meet the right person one day that's going to be some government type of guy or maybe if Trump gets back into office yeah and from North Korea's perspective they would want us to come and expose what a great country quote unquote right uh North Korea is to our American audience and that's how it would be and dude we're not gonna do anything [ __ ] dumb there and [ __ ] like we're gonna be invited it's going to be all taken care of yeah and we're gonna go and we're gonna [ __ ] get some slopes with Kim Jong-un bro that would be the craziest [ __ ] [ __ ] that would go of course I would go I could never like an opportunity in life I couldn't pass that up man imagine Kim Jong-un on the podcast I think we could pull it off I think we can pull off anything well yeah I mean after after like the Elon musking the Trump thing after all those things I mean I don't think anyone really doubts it yeah so before you kind of like started having that like what in your mind like did you just always believe that you were going to be able to get to those points or was it just like it happened over time I know everything happens over time but like when you started getting like I guess it was Dana was the first thing you said and then Dana kind of connected which was way later in our career way later yeah way later but once you started getting these like heavy because like for the podcast Elon Musk is like the only other person was Joe Rogan yeah that's all John that's all credit to John he totally got Elon they had it released yeah that was all him he just emailed them and he's been he was emailing him for uh months yeah and Elon was saying maybe maybe soon yeah just maybe soon period and then he just and then just like kept doing it kept doing it and then one day he's just like yeah could be good he's like as long as we don't we can't talk about Twitter because I'm in a lawsuit we're like okay we won't talk about Twitter like yeah that was his only thing yeah just one day he's just like all right sure and then we just did it so you know when he started because there was a clip where I saw him Rogan because they were watching your podcast on Rogan and they were talking about yeah and they were talking Johnny probably showed you which is that that's [ __ ] cool cool as [ __ ] and they were talking about like the climate change stuff did he did he ever go into detail about like that whole climate change thing no but people are saying that's the next thing right yeah I've seen the next like drama I don't know no one really talks about global warming no more you're such a big thing remember like the aerosol cans and the [ __ ] atmosphere's eroding and [ __ ] I just feel like it's I feel like I feel like there's something else coming soon that they're gonna like it's just always it really is a thing climate change is one too you can't really like if if people believe in it if they believe in man-made global warming like they're not ready to accept any other opinion yeah like they're not like P I heard someone say it too I think yeah Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan said it's like a religion like it's like this is it yeah like this is it like don't even I don't even want to hear another opinion about it we are [ __ ] up this Earth We're the reason it's like getting warmer the crazy thing about the Earth though as far as I understand I'm not an expert at any of this but like we would die before the Earth would ever die like we would wipe we'd wipe ourselves out and the Earth would continue to flourish but I mean from my understanding the earth goes through like natural warming and cooling periods throughout the entire history of time like yeah the entire Earth was [ __ ] Frozen at once well no and there was no humans on it I think it's four it's either four or five times the whole earth had collapsed basically and then came back to life again yeah that's when there's no human involvement at all zero yeah so I mean we might have a little effect on it but like to say that everything's happening is is man-made as opposed to potentially just natural like the cycle of life and Earth yeah I mean you gotta at least look at the other side that's the thing but that's the thing with all of this is like uh it seems like on the internet there's just more and more of a divide between like left and right and it's just becoming a crazy thing I think I think with that one specifically it's more like because you're like you're like shattering someone's world like what do you mean we're not [ __ ] up this earth like you you've been taught to believe that your whole life yeah so people don't like it kind of scares them to because when you accept that other side of the opinion you're admitting that you've been fooled your entire life right like you've you're kind of admitting it like if you get proven wrong on global warming you're like well everything that I've learned has been alive for these last since like school and some mind [ __ ] it's a mind [ __ ] and I get that in regards to that in this whole like you know without getting too political right um we and you obviously lean a little bit more towards I guess we say the conservative side of things do you ever feel like do you get too much [ __ ] for that or do you get love for that because it's because here's my thing with all this like left and right [ __ ] because it's very prominent on the internet I mean you could just tell by like the fact you do you know a pot with Trump and this kind of stuff that you know the rallies right you can't deny that kind of like I wouldn't even call it affiliation but just like yeah affiliation yeah but care care yeah and people you know who on the other side and there's other content creators that are more left whatever it's and it's all good um I guess my my point in saying all this is like the frustration I have in it is like I've recently I've been going on I went on Hassan's podcast and his twitch stream and I've gone on Ethan's pod um and I got a lot of good feedback from going on there and having these conversations and I guess it's just frustrating because when I see those sort of like you know if you did something with Trump and Their audience is on there like [ __ ] you you suck because I believe this I feel this do you ever feel like it's really hard for people to find middle ground and why why do you think it is hard for people to have some middle ground because like it seems like I don't know if it just feels like I've had a lot of conversations with people who lean more towards the the right and they're willing to listen to the left but very very far left is like very unwilling to listen to the right like there's no middle ground sometimes I can't really provide a specific answer as to why honestly I think I think people are just angry and they're just stuck in their ways right and if you don't agree with them they yeah they can't have a civilized conversation about it they don't even want to hear it you know yeah it's like this is my way and you know yeah that's everyone talks about it that's one of the biggest problems with Society idea now is that we can't even talk about [ __ ] yeah it's you can't even talk about it it's [ __ ] about [ __ ] right yeah it's a weird it's a weird thing man because because like I I really enjoy like the content I've been doing lately with some of these creators because I like to hear people's perspectives and I like to understand why someone feels or strongly away about the things that they feel about you know the minute I do that then people turn on like my own audience will turn on me and be like what the [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] you're a loser like you shouldn't even have them on the podcast or whatever and I'm like dude like what happened to having that conversation true you know like I did uh I think at the Pod we did uh not with H3 I had them here they were there they were [ __ ] on me but even the Pod I did with us and we did Aiden and I brought up the whole Tate thing like I was like I presented that other side because I got presented the other side yeah everyone was like you [ __ ] hate her and it's just like it's not even that like I'm just literally like I'm learning something new because I didn't know about these things and it's like yeah that's the problem with I will say that's got to be a problem with left and right for sure I think the left was really bad with it too but I mean things always go back and forth now too like let's see what happens with the the whole Trump stuff this year and stuff like that too I just kind of do I just try to do what what's in my heart and what's in my brain yeah like you know I Trump I liked I thought he was the best choice I mean as opposed to CL or was it it was Biden yeah yeah I mean as opposed to Biden Biden's like straight up I don't give a [ __ ] he's the biggest [ __ ] loser everyone knows it now like left and right knows it it's pretty funny he just literally like I don't even understand it the videos that I see I know the videos that I see on [ __ ] Instagram and Tick Tock of Biden sometimes I think they're fake me too yeah like Dana actually Dana sends me a lot bro I think he sends me to Biden videos all the time and they're [ __ ] insane I literally reply to him like bro that's gotta be fake yeah this has got to be fake because it's like what the [ __ ] is going on like this guy can't even speak yeah how can you possibly say that this guy should be president anybody but him yeah anybody like the guys complete loser so how could you not get how could you not support Trump no it's [ __ ] crazy man it's it dude so okay in regards to all this stuff how come you felt like you know when you started making content you I noticed this because not a lot of people have this you didn't give a [ __ ] like you were just willing to kind of put yourself not be like yo I'm this but you put yourself in a position where it was very obvious kind of like what you were deciding to like kind of affiliate yourself with where I know a lot of creators over all my years of doing this even though they may feel like hey I like Trump or I like this like for example I know I know a mainstream artist like a mainstream celebrity artist there's all there's so many A-list that goes I he he was telling me how he had to post congratulations to Biden even though he never wanted to bite into win he didn't care he was voting for Trump but because of his affiliation to like the music industry and who he was he said I have to post this otherwise I know that I'll get so much negative feedback wow if I don't even say congrats type [ __ ] so so like what made you feel like you were in in the social media space which you know sometimes well not even sometimes is kind of largely weighed left and right and people attacking each other what made you feel comfortable enough to be like this is what I believe and [ __ ] it I just we've just never cared yeah we've just never cared and we've always been like quote unquote like I don't know [ __ ] men of the people like just trying to be you know trying to I don't know just trying to be ourselves and do what we want you know so I love Trump I like I love them especially you know I don't know what's gonna happen this year yeah of course um I don't know if he maybe already had his time but um I mean I liked a lot of the things he was saying the guy's definitely not an angel no absolutely not and I think some of the [ __ ] he said in the past about like women and [ __ ] I I can sympathize with a woman and I can 100 I'm not shocked as to why some women don't like Trump for sure like I mean I get it you know what I mean but I still think that um a lot of the stuff that he was doing was good you know like Trump on like foreign policy and like the way he was able to like negotiate with people and yeah did you see what he said about um I don't know if you saw in an interview he said like he's just like a guy that gets [ __ ] and done that's why I liked him too like he said uh I think he to threaten the Taliban leader like he wanted something to Taliban to do something and like the Taliban leader guy was like why did you just send me a picture of my house and like Trump's like that's for you to figure out so like Trump wanted the Taliban to do something so he like sent the Taliban leader a photo of the guy's house and he's like bro I know where you are right now but like I feel like people want a leader to be soft but like the country's got to be run like how someone runs a [ __ ] businessman like it's got to be a big Cutthroat in a way and that's why I think a lot of people liked him you know what's interesting this whole concept is I always find so interesting um these people that you know are obviously like elected officials politicians whatever and just in general for some reason nowadays it seems as though like everyone expects everyone to be perfect but themselves yeah it's like we all know we're not perfect we all know we make mistakes we all know we're not like exactly like we're human and like especially when it comes to these like officials or people that people view as like in uh in you know in in places places of power or like places of fame or popular it's like everyone looks outward and they're like you should be doing everything exactly right kind of how I think you should but it's also just like none of that's realistic right I think people forget to forget to see that like I don't know what's the actual function of what this person is doing and does it actually benefit people so the whole thing with Biden to me was like people just didn't want Trump yeah that's how unpopular he was yeah that's how much people hated Trump but then he pretty much lost to himself yeah and and then you but then you have like I don't know man this the mainstream media just yeah I mean the media is totally against them but it's just crazy it's also crazy how that's such a real completely handicapped yeah it's such a real thing just that the media and the way it just portrays a side is so real it's not even like a debatable thing I know I always wonder why because at the end of the day it's all about money no the the way I think about it too is like I think people just think that like the media like has these opinions and they're just crazy right but at the end of the day bro like it's got to be about money right like It's gotta be everything's about money so for the media to be pushing these agendas it's got to come from somewhere you know the media is here it's got to be being fed from somewhere and it's like they got to be you know whatever whoever owns the media is is pushing these agendas for some reason right yeah I don't know if it's I mean I think it's to divide people I genuinely think that's the answer and it's it's [ __ ] because like the it to me it's like I'm looking at this I'm like man are they like left and right you know leaders are they I feel like they're all in the room being like haha like it's like it's not even as divided as we think it is just portrayed outward so everyone could like pick a side and fight each other and be emotional about this decision or that decision and attack each other and it's just like there's no actual benefit there you do that with everyone they they do that with like everything man uh I mean crazy because it just shows you how powerful the media is that's the that's the lesson we learned from Kobe was like we all have a [ __ ] screen now yeah and whoever's sitting in a room or a [ __ ] you know yeah wherever they're sitting in this world they say all right send the message out to everyone's screens and guess what we [ __ ] obeyed yeah people they could put anything on our phones and on our TVs and we're gonna believe it anything yeah right why do you think people will talk about this then why do you think people lost or or just don't think like they're not into quickly thinking they're just into listening to an opinion on someone again I think it's the same thing as like the global warming thing where like people it's it's a mind [ __ ] you have to admit that what you thought this was is not is not what you thought it was and I think that scares people the thought of that like scares people like some people like actually trust the government like like I guess every code people Everyone that like believed coded like trust the government which is funny isn't that like weird they're the weird like why do you think that the government or like the elite gives a [ __ ] about you like why but like people actually think that so to change those people's minds they have to admit like the government doesn't you know like what I thought life was was really not the way this world works and I think that scares people and they don't want to admit that you know what's the funniest part in relation to the the vid thing is like the the fact that everyone could agree with this one simple thing and was like this is the dumbest [ __ ] I ever heard was the rationalization remember when you go into a restaurant and they'd be like you you gotta wear your mask to walk through but you when you sit down you could take it off doesn't matter what size there's no logic everyone was like yeah that doesn't make sense though the same people who are like you need to have a mask on who are mad at other people for not having a mask on you even have that conversation with them like yeah that that's a little stupid though but like they still want to protect us it's like how can you believe those two things are the same yeah and everyone in LA and Hollywood at first was [ __ ] yeah posting Instagram stories shaming other creators like I know because we've traveled during covid right yeah and I would see like from celebrities to other influencers like not bashing us specifically but just bashing anyone that was not following the rules and stuff like that you know and then everyone just does a [ __ ] 180 after that yeah like a year later two years later everyone's like [ __ ] on coke and I'm like where the [ __ ] were you guys two years ago yeah you know is it so that's the thing is it like is it just this virtual virtue signaling like safe I can do this because it's safe and people will think I'm good because I'm listening to this like this narrative I guess so yeah I guess so I mean I guess it's what they're like our audience is all probably mostly Trump people not all right right but like I guess Their audience is the opposite right so they gotta post at the end of the day they're a business too right so they gotta post what Their audience wants to see we just don't have that audience which is I guess because of what we've done our entire career career yeah we've tried to do what you know people like what I like now they find what I find funny funny yeah so whatever I like kind of people like yeah it's crazy built this group of people that follow us yeah that pretty much like what I like yeah you become the same humor yeah it's [ __ ] wild man so so it's crazy now because you know you go from like different forms of content over time into like now the podcast stuff right which is so like left not not politically not speaking at all but so left of what you've done how has that changed like the landscape for you as far as like creating content or like networking and all that stuff as a podcast thing like made that podcast was a big move for us recently yeah launching that was huge for sure I think I mean that was yeah you always got to look at what's the next step how are you going to evolve and uh I think nelk we will honestly do I think nelk if we're all still around I think we can do it till we're [ __ ] 45 if we want to yeah we could we could still do some sort of I I for sure you know I love traveling we could still go on a trip at 40 years old or 45 years old or [ __ ] 60 years old yeah well how long like the boys are all seniors and we [ __ ] senior trip pack up leave the wives right yo dude head to Tijuana I wish I had a kid [ __ ] five years ago like can you imagine that when everyone has kids and [ __ ] too and like that's gonna make the videos even better bro so funny like all bringing our kids out to [ __ ] whatever dude I need to sign these kids a loser like for sure yes sorry camera I'm joking no we love you bro all right guys quick Interruption for one of our sponsors better help uh you guys have probably heard before if you've been watching 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Mark Cuban like you get to sit down with Mark Cuban and [ __ ] listen to all his knowledge and [ __ ] like right in front of them sick it's a great it's a great thing it is it's a very big blessing it's cool and the thing that I I really like about it is like and I think people listening would agree like they evolve with it like the audience grows with it because your audience like dude for the amount of time you've been doing this and myself included it's like a lot of guys who started watching me we talked about this briefly before when they were younger they're like like in their 30s or in their mid-20s and it's like that's such a large amount of time to have someone involved with you and then it's evolve into like content that I think in my opinion is obviously a lot more meaningful than pranks not that pranks aren't necessary or enjoyable or fun but like the the content from the podcast side of things is like completely 180. yeah and it's really connecting people on like a deeper level with I think the brand and you and the people involved I guess on that note is in regards to nelk in regards to the podcast and everything that you've done what would you say as far as I don't know like some sort of advice to a Creator who's coming up because a lot I know a lot of people watch you watch us watch things that we do and they're like they want to emulate or be like what would you say to a Creator who is coming up and he's like just getting started today in order to be successful obviously like takes time but like in terms of content you think or just like it's tough I guess to everything everything I think I mean you kind of said it earlier um I mean I think specifically with content okay even if you're doing a podcast or whatever you're doing you gotta be shareable okay you've got to have a reason if someone's watching your [ __ ] you gotta think like how is someone that I don't even know don't think of your friend I mean maybe your friends too but it can't be inside jokes how is someone that I don't even know gonna like share this to one of their friends and there's gotta be that reason you know like there's got to be something unique maybe it's funny maybe you're learning something maybe maybe you're [ __ ] hot as [ __ ] if you're a girl like I don't know you know you have a fat rack and everyone's sharing your rack but like it's got to be something you know yeah so I would say you just got to be different you got to stand out and Yeah you got to be shareable when you're small too yeah and now it's interesting because yeah you have Tick Tock now too so I think a year or two ago that was kind of tough to go viral but now guess what anyone could [ __ ] go viral on tick tock on Tick Tock too so and shorts and even Instagram so I think that's content wise you gotta be like you gotta stand out man there's so many people doing it that's just like dude how you think you're gonna make it doing this type of [ __ ] too yeah and I mean people say do what you love too but I think at the beginning like do what you love but also dude do what works yeah at the beginning you got to do what works yeah I think it's hard for people to understand what works because a lot of people ask me that all the time like they're looking for like people come to me all the time at the gym and they'll be like yo what do I do to do this and like they're almost looking for like some answer that I think we just have this we just got the secret recipe or what I don't know maybe right like I don't know maybe it's like how do you become a basketball player like you're born with it yeah I don't know I mean some people have it some people have it and some people don't yeah that's one thing I've learned throughout this [ __ ] too is like you got to be [ __ ] ready to do this [ __ ] you want to do this [ __ ] you gotta be ready you got to be mentally ready yeah you can't [ __ ] quit when [ __ ] gets taught like when you get tired and you want to quit everyone wants to quit but like I've seen people quit like I've seen a lot of people quit yeah like it gets tough and they just [ __ ] slow down and they quit yeah because you can't be weak bro you can't be mentally weak you gotta [ __ ] even me if you're feeling down go [ __ ] off for a bit like take your chill time and then get back to work like if you want to really do it you know yeah without a doubt like so so on that note as a as a not not just as a Creator in the content you make but as a human what do you think the most important thing is to be able to sustain yourself in this industry that's definitely one of the aspects that you just said right there I don't know but beyond beyond that aspect of like you can't quit that really is I think that's the biggest key because like at the end of the day if you I don't know like if someone doesn't make it that means they quit like you should just never I don't know it's kind of it's stupid and simple but it's like bro if you just don't quit you're gonna make it yeah I always talk about it but then people will make excuses so they'll quit and they won't admit that they quit because they'll be like well this happened or like you know many people blamed code for [ __ ] like they're like well like I had coach it's like dude that's like your loser straight up like you can't you can't make excuses yeah and I think people make excuses to make themselves feel better right that's a fact yeah like they'll make excuses to make themselves feel better but at the end of the day it's like you quit shut up so you gotta like just don't [ __ ] quit like yeah I know it's and I tell I tell people too all the time because when they ask me that I talk about consistency over time and because that's all it is is like consistently trying to learn to grow to like take feedback and try to like change it see what works it doesn't work and I think like you said people get to a point where they're like they [ __ ] they flop it's not what they want and they don't have the tenacity to keep moving forward then they'll look around and be like well this didn't work because of these reasons right yeah then that's the key right so then beyond this part is like then now what's really important is like how bad and how important is this for you to actually succeed at because that's the thing I think a lot of people want something like this because they see it and they go oh that's easy they're sitting on couches talking but it's not like we just got here just by sitting on couches talking which I think nowadays you probably could make a really good Pockets if you were great at it but I think people fail to see how much goes into everything as a whole and they just see like a success and they go oh I tried it it didn't work to the same degree [ __ ] this I'm going to keep doing that that's that's the biggest thing I see too and like I can tell now smaller creators that like because I'll watch everything right like everyone I'm watching studying like you know and you can really tell like not only by their content but I can tell like someone's work ethic you know by like I can just see it yeah I can see it and I think I can tell instantly with smaller creators like who's gonna make it even if they're not popping off for right this second I think that there's like people that I see that I'm like yo I know they're gonna make it because they're so hard working yeah I don't know if you know those guys the the boys of 98 they came to your gym opening too I saw really but um yeah they grew up on my street in Canada it's so weird are they pop you think they got like 130k but they're like they're really hard workers and they're they're someone that like I see like they're they're slowly growing but they're like really hard workers and I could tell like I know them personally but also uh I see what they're doing like they're working really hard and they're not stopping and they're grinding and they're traveling it's like that's someone just one person that I thought of like you could tell that they're they're just never gonna quit and that's what it takes right yeah that's ultimately What It Takes why do you think it's hard for people to accept that like you know when you [ __ ] up you just have to keep going why do you think people go like ah they take the easy way and they say [ __ ] it because have you ever have you ever along your whole career I think they just I don't know they're just weak that's true it's their weak-minded is it is it weak or is it just like I'm trying to think of a nice way to say it but they don't know better I feel like people just don't know better I feel like people are taught like I almost sometimes taught to quit even though we're always told maybe like because you know a lot of people because this is the thing I think when the going gets tough some people shut down and some people don't because I've been through times too where it's like yeah I've been broke or even sometimes you get unhappy but like you can't you know you can't just stop because like for me I'm just never gonna stop no matter what yeah do you think do you think the circle around you has enforced that in you sure yeah because well it's all who you're around too for sure yeah because I think a lot of people who quit I think they tend to probably have people in their Circle who are like yeah like it's hard or they they will talk them down even before they get to going and then almost like coddle them when they're and then like almost like people seemingly convince other people to not succeed at their goals because they're not succeeding at their goals that could be one thing that could be one thing so it's like how do we maybe like back home when you're like yeah you're just around like a bunch of people that are working yeah like nine to fives or whatever and you're trying to achieve your dream that could be a factor but I mean yeah so how would you teach someone to like I don't know if you can to not look outwards and just like yo if this is important go because that's the truth that's that that is how you succeed yeah and that's how you not quit but that's everything in life is like it's the most simple cliche [ __ ] kind of like [ __ ] that's what it is like people ask me all the time like how do you do it and it's just like dude just don't like don't just do it like I don't know what to say like there's no secret recipe yeah like don't shut down like as long as you don't stop you're eventually gonna do it right if something's not working try something new yeah if that doesn't work try something else new like you know if your dreams to be like in our position or be a Creator like just keep trying try new [ __ ] like yeah and as as long as you don't stop here I feel like you're eventually gonna do it yeah now as far as uh this kind of not not quitting obviously I'm not it's not in regards to Jesse or anything but um I know you've obviously talked about this stuff in the past but um how big was Jesse in the success of milk huge yeah massive it was me it was me and him right yeah um I mean yeah when I'm when I met him we probably had 30 DK on YouTube I had 30k yeah um dude he was huge I mean I don't know when he left that but like yeah he was could have there's no way we would be here without him yeah without a doubt right but um yeah I think I think with him like it was I didn't want to people think that I was talking about him with that but no no of course yeah nah yeah but he did eventually get to a point where he was like hey it's not for me anymore yeah but he made that message and I mean like he left at a good time and also set himself up like very well of course so for him it's like you know he still owns a huge piece of happy Dad yeah he's now he's he didn't quit he's like doing he's just doing something different now yes so yeah yeah but Jesse I mean yeah he was huge right like it's crazy everything we did yeah when I was in Palm Springs like as I went to Palm Springs recently to chill and um I totally forgot but me and Jesse like roadied to VidCon for the first time oh in his car years ago and it broke down yeah years ago like I'm gonna [ __ ] six seven years ago yeah and it broke down his car we're on the way to VidCon we're almost we're almost at VidCon we drove from Canada well so [ __ ] 30 hours like not even 34 hours probably we got two hours to go I feel like that's something Canadians do bro like get on road trips road trips like that like Europeans and Canadians Roadies are dope but it's like people from America brodies too no I love them but like it's not normal like people from America don't go like east to west coast so like take flights it's just cheaper the road trip yeah flying from Toronto to L.A oh I don't know it's way cheaper because you probably fill up your tank like three four times uh maybe I'm not sure maybe I'm wrong so just you and him were on that road Florida could be like two gas tanks from Toronto maybe I'm tripping but it's way cheaper it's way cheaper flights from Toronto sometimes could be like over you know back then when you're broke yeah you gotta hop in the car and we [ __ ] we would get a cooler and put a cooler in the middle and go to the grocery store and buy [ __ ] wraps and lunch meat and snacks and we didn't even have money to eat out I love that I swear to God like we like at gas stations like we wouldn't even buy food in the gas station like we'd make wraps like get the Mayo put turkey some cheese and just like eat wraps I toss some cheese strings in the cooler too like yeah so that's what we did but yeah our car broke down in Palm Springs for five days we were stuck in Palm Springs not at the car like you must have went somewhere we just stayed at a motel oh my God like we took it to a repair shop and every day they're like all right we're gonna fix it we're gonna fix it they never fixed it and then like we almost missed missed VidCon so we had to post on Snapchat and say like yo is there anyone that can like come to Palm Springs and pick us up and like drive us to VidCon and these guys came to pick them up came to pick us up I'm I was thinking about it and I feel so bad because I don't remember their names but I feel really bad but like I'm gonna do something for them yeah I totally forgotten it's really bad on me that I haven't but I'm gonna like find that video and I'm gonna track those boys down yeah send me a tweet or some [ __ ] I'll send it over but uh yeah that's [ __ ] up but it was crazy because they came and they picked us up and they they drove us to VidCon and then I think they let us like sleep on their floor and [ __ ] like and they're like like hotel and [ __ ] it's [ __ ] crazy and then eventually the car the car got fixed so we had to like go back and get it and then we drove home have you ever had any other moments any other like crazy experiences like that with fans yeah I mean we've stayed at we used to stay at fans houses right yeah that was how we started so we didn't have money for hotels or anything so we just literally post on Snapchat like Hey we're in St Louis or whatever like who who will let us crash at their house yeah and then I would vet them too like I'll message them for a bit and then I like you know okay like where would we sleep where do you live blah blah blah blah then I would get on face time with them and like talk to them and then feel them out but we never had a weird experience I think because we stopped doing it we probably would have eventually yeah yeah the first guy we stayed at his name was like Magic Mike we've done a ton of videos with them and [ __ ] he's a dope guy yeah um he like yeah I'm not sure what kind of condition he has but he has some sort of like condition mental condition okay um but yeah he was like the nicest guy ever and we like slept on his couch and stuff like that and you know what I you know when I realized the fan base was crazy like really crazy when I personally realized it was when we went to Ireland oh yeah okay we were going to have that meeting in Ireland that's crazy and we were having that meet up and then like we were like in that Park we were all in that car and like the massive horde of [ __ ] Irish kids that were chasing we didn't expect that no dude because we announced the Meetup Brad came to join us and then we announced the Meetup and then it this literally was a riot we pull up yeah and cops were already there people were chasing us down the road yes and then we couldn't pull up how many years ago was this four probably [ __ ] dude it was so long ago Europe was yeah that was crazy bro Sun we've done so much dope [ __ ] but we couldn't pull up the cops even said if you guys pulled up there we would have arrested you yeah and then we tried to go to that bar afterwards and like try to sneakily get them to go there they they saw us they were like get the [ __ ] out of here yeah that was that was when I was like damn this is this is like real crazy [ __ ] and I'm like we're in Ireland it really is like a [ __ ] I don't know man it's like we're like it's like a Justin Bieber fan base of like males it's interesting right yeah some some fans are kind of like like they're a bit you know if you're a fan like you got to just treat us like a normal person if you want us to really respect you I'm just being honest yeah like you know I get it because they're so shocked but like yeah I the way I say it is like you're forced to meet a lot of people in this position and then some people are just naturally weird yeah and then some people I'll like they'll come up and dab me up and be like yo bro like [ __ ] love your videos man like yeah you guys are like I love you guys been watching you forever I'm like how like that's the dopest thing you could say yeah dab you up take a photo I'm like oh that guy was dope yeah and some guys will come up and like completely Fanboy and like yeah it's like sweating shaking just relax you know yeah but I get it and it's still cool yeah you know the audience is crazy man um it's crazy are there are there other like would you compare it to any other audiences that you've like seen or been a part of like on YouTube like you know like no I don't think it's like it's like nothing yeah it's like nothing maybe like we're not we don't have as many followers as like other people and stuff like that yeah but no I think I think ours is the best I wouldn't trade it for anyone's out there yeah ours is the best like even if you have 20 million like ours is cool because it's like I don't know some of these guys are big but like if they go to like a college party or like a bar like bro they're not gonna get the love that we get like they might even get chirped yeah yeah right like they can't just walk around everywhere and [ __ ] like yeah it's funny dude they'll probably get chirped yeah like we never get chirped anywhere we go bro every time I've ever gone to a bar since we started making content it's like there's dudes coming up to me yeah like bro I've seen you on this anywhere like you go to a football game or like anywhere there's a bunch anywhere anywhere the boys are yeah we're getting love it's such a crazy thing we're still working on that yeah yeah it'll come it'll come like we said never quit I think it's the I think the podcast I think the podcast probably switches it up a little bit because that's when I've seen more more girls that come up be like I see you on the podcast and I'm like oh [ __ ] that's rare like it's it's literally mostly a male dominant fan base it is I think ours is like 85 male or 90 yeah mine's the same [ __ ] man it's been like that for years too even before linking up with you guys yeah it's crazy but you know what I think girls too they're it's like kind I think some girls get there's got to be some girls out there right because there's we I see it there's 15 but I think girls will come up to us too but I think sometimes girls get clowned for actually liking milk I see yourself because there's got to be some girls that are actually like yo this shit's funny yeah you know but I think there it's not really cool for them to come up like guys yeah that's what I noticed I get it it's quick Interruption from one of our sponsors green Chef now check this out this is obviously one of the dopest products uh because I'm gonna tell you right now I have the hardest time cooking my meals because I number one I don't like to think about the ingredients that I need I don't like to think about planning it or organizing it the cool thing about green Chef is it's all done for you right it's super convenient it's super easy it's customizable basically what you do is you go you sign up you're like okay I want to have like these types of meals whether you're like vegetarian or vegan whatever it is and then you you pick what meals you want they'll give you a plan to follow based on like the information that 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talks60 to get 60 off your order plus free shipping give it a shot you guys will not again you will not be upset that you tried it but again greenchef.com rawtalk 60 put in code raw talk 60 you got 60 off your order let's get back into this podcast um about maybe that's just an excuse actually [ __ ] um so as far as girls have you found it to be like harder because of all the popularity because of all the like success and expectations to have like a strong relationship not real like in terms of trusting girls or just everything in general yeah like because I've always you know my biggest thing my biggest issue with with women is like trusting intentions and trusting that like I don't really have an issue with that no no because I don't get fooled at all yeah I don't you just know yeah I just know I've never put myself in that position I've only like really dated two chicks yeah my whole life so like seriously dating yeah yeah so it's just like but yeah I mean messing around with random girls that's totally different that's that's sketchy as [ __ ] but in terms of like actually dating them and like you're saying like getting used yeah no I'm pretty good with that so then how do you how so that then my question is really like how do you start to determine how do you determine that that's not that kind of girl like how are you how are you what are your markers no you just know just know I just feel it out yeah and like some girls are your meat and you're just like man I would never date that chick yeah like she's maybe she's hot but I'm just like man I would never date that chick would I Slayer absolutely yeah I get it and and we have yeah of course of course that's funny man yeah yeah you just know but some people are suckers I don't know how they don't see it like you just get [ __ ] yeah yeah some people just get rinsed but I just laugh because I'm just like man I could see that I'll see other guys with girls too and I'm like damn yeah she's getting you you're gonna get rinsed but [ __ ] man yeah that shit's tough right yeah that's a tough one but yeah especially like I mean it'd be hard to trust the girl from La yeah I know everyone says why is that a thing anyone real I mean because there's so many options here yeah like we're we're competing with NBA players NFL players rappers yeah like billionaires like [ __ ] even rappers like billionaires bro yeah right like they're all in these circles like if we go to an LA party or a Miami party bro you could have some [ __ ] right yeah that's true yeah they're probably better looking than us too like [ __ ] dude we're rinsed like some guys just have me beat you know right like do you ever see that yeah of course they're better looking more money [ __ ] yeah probably not more Jack than you but yeah it's jacked yeah probably bigger horn too like you just [ __ ] buddy yeah I got a question in regards to because I've always been impressed by this it's just much like Saleem the uh the stone face like how how do you perfect that without laughing you're just in pranks and all that just been always good at it even from the beginning yeah just been good at it how I don't know because like dude we practice me and Jacob will [ __ ] around and like practice what right it's like the I'm not as good as I once was why why did I just laugh now more yeah we did a moaning we did a moaning in a golfer's ear and the guy just like freaked out and I just laughed because it was so funny [ __ ] I think it's the pranks that like I'm I'm not really like I didn't invent like Saleem likes pneumonia he mastered that yeah so like the moaning's like not really my thing so when I do it like it's so funny it's so funny in real life that I'm just like [ __ ] but ones that are my style like I'm good yeah because you you're so good at that like just look like looking you're just like it's so funny right so that's the funniest [ __ ] I know it's so like when you really mean like you just really feel like you mean exactly what you're doing and you're like I'll kind of like think of like what I'm gonna say beforehand like one little one-liner like I'll think of like a one-liner inside of your cheek or some [ __ ] like how do you no I just do it bro that's the thing I do it I just like I feel like I have to like like bite my cheek you just zone out I'm just thinking of the clip I'm thinking of the fans and like how much You're gonna laugh at this like I'm like all right I gotta get this yeah have there been any moments like like that that have gone like really South where you've gotten like because I remember remember that vinegar nice yeah I've been arrested twice I've been yeah I've been punched once by this big black guy yeah in a [ __ ] in a store right like a Walmart or something [ __ ] yeah in a Walmart uh it was the sneezing prank yeah he [ __ ] we we did the sneezing yeah and then he's like don't I don't do that funny [ __ ] and he just punched me in the face and then he chased me out of the store and he he like stood in front of the [ __ ] automatic doors like you know Walmart there's like an entrance and an exit yeah and like I was trying to go out the exit and like he's just boxing me in and then he got on his phone and he pulled his phone out and he's like you want to go viral like and he punched me again he's like all right we're going viral now and [ __ ] and he posted it on his Facebook it probably went viral I don't know yeah we did a video with him after did you see him we went back we did another prank how'd you find him on his Facebook oh you posted on Facebook and I messaged him and like oh he like he found it funny after he saw the video yeah and then he's just like I was like yo you want to prank Saleem so we went back to another store and like I told him to pull up and then like I go in the print I go in the store and I'm like yo Salim the guy's here and then we like he chased us out of the store again and [ __ ] dude it was funny content wise have you have I mean I don't think so much of this stuff Have you ever faked anything no remember back in the day like uh what Fouseytube like these people were getting popped for like faking [ __ ] pranks and [ __ ] yeah you never actually faked a prank no yeah I think I think that's what kind of that that is honestly one thing that made us take off too because when that whole fake pranks thing was going on yeah that was a that was a massive deal we um we just said let's do [ __ ] that can't be faked so that's when we started doing like more pranks and like public and [ __ ] like college lecture pranks like stuff that people can't be like yo is fake yeah I didn't hire all these kids yeah I hear that a lot I never really thought of it but I guess yeah people say like yo you guys really took off because like you just didn't do fake [ __ ] and like for us that was so easy like once we found our Rhythm it was just like it was just easy and yeah it just it feels like cheating right to kind of yeah you know what's interesting as a whole still fake [ __ ] there's like people like a lot of pranksters a lot of pranks I see like someone will show it to me like yo like you guys should do this I'm like bro that's fake yeah like you know what's interesting about this your success and the success of milk and all this overall it seems like everything you've said kind of lends to the fact that you've kind of just just kept it [ __ ] real and you've just been yourself and you've been like this is this is what we like this is and and even now we as we talked about content progressing you're even realizing more so now just to continue to do it that way like you're just doing something because you generally enjoy it you have fun doing it you like it it's the truth that's the key because people could see through fake [ __ ] you could see through it's so easy I think on social for sure on social yeah like really longer format and dude it just like I can't sleep at night like that like you know like if you were just like what's good it's good you look high as [ __ ] right now holy [ __ ] I could see you I always know when you're high you guys haven't even seen each other yet no no no I saw him earlier okay yeah yeah why I went out okay I'm great I'm great dude what do you have the most fun doing now because you have all this [ __ ] now and you're building all you're building all this dope [ __ ] like what do you really have fun doing um like with the business uh just in life in life yeah I mean I feel like you're like me like I I don't a lot of my fun still is in regards to the business yeah I mean a lot of our fun is in regards to the business too I think I really loved like the Russia trip and traveling yeah I really love traveling like I think that's a huge passion of mine and like I like going to places that are like way different now you know like it's so cool like going to Russia is just like yo you don't know what it's going to be like like you have no idea what it's going to be like you know and seeing just different cultures and stuff so I think traveling man is just like it's such a blessing too to travel the way we travel right yeah because not everyone can just go to Russia and stuff and kind of do what we did and see what we saw yeah but I think that's something that 2023 especially based on the response of the video Yeah is like dude I think 2023 is just like the real big like International year and like where we do [ __ ] like we're talking about Israel now yeah about like Egypt Egypt and then Africa in general yeah one of our sales reps Connor shout out Connor um for happy Dad he he messaged me and said um and this is how [ __ ] starts like it's just like like he messaged me and said like yo my best friend my best friend's girlfriend is the princess of Zimbabwe what yeah and she he's like if you guys want to go to Zimbabwe like they'll completely take care of you so like that could be our Africa plug like we go and it's just like that that's the way to do it like you go to Russia you go with like Islam and Hezbollah like if you go to Africa you go with the [ __ ] princess of Zimbabwe and he sent me all the [ __ ] we can do like waterfalls like Zimbabwe has like legit Safaris it's like real safaris it's [ __ ] Villages and all that [ __ ] like can you imagine that like wouldn't that be sick yeah and we get to film it and it's classified as work yeah no it's a huge that's what I find fun it's interesting how you mention that though how things actually come to fruition like how they start is that's what I realized too I gotta for an elk like sometimes I get lazy but I gotta be the one like putting these videos together because like I have all the connections a lot too right yeah like even the Islam and hezboola thing was like I had to like kind of put that together like No One's Gonna put that together unless I do it right yeah I gotta hit up the manager because I'm tight with Islam's manager yeah Ali and then I hit up hezboola's guys and I knew that he was like launching um an nft so I said you know want to do a video around that time yeah you know just kind of learning I know how business works so I know how other people's minds work yeah so it's just kind of you know but is it a detail connecting the dots yeah these are the details that I find interesting like a lot of people wouldn't recognize they just think oh you're just showing up making content no like I just like I was like damn like imagine going to Dagestan with hezboola like that'd be [ __ ] crazy so I hit up his manager and I was like yo what do you think about this like and he said yeah like you know it's weird how every and then we did it's we did some merch too yeah I saw the shirts we probably I mean we made we made hezboola a [ __ ] ton of money yeah so like they're gonna be [ __ ] happy and now they're going to want to do more [ __ ] with us yeah because when you make someone money for sure and that that's the great opportunity we have is like you know at the end of the day people want to make money so if we can make other people money they're going to want to work with us too yeah it's like it's a it's I mean it's a give and take for sure and then we get great content out of it too like still it's it's such a blessing man I'm I'm I'm grateful for all the time and I I want to say this on camera because I you know I've told you I think in person but I want to tell you like you know tell you on camera so it's not not up to discussion but I'm grateful that you've had me be a part of all this stuff for so long that I'm on the podcast I have fun doing it and I really enjoy meeting the people I'm glad I'm glad you're on the Pod yeah I think it's um I just wanna I don't want I don't want to not say that because I didn't want to ever end this [ __ ] episode that we you know we finally got and I'm grateful for you to come because you you have done a lot for a lot of people and um I think sometimes I don't know I think sometimes people at the top I know I felt in positions where like for me I didn't feel like someone cared enough or like someone was grateful enough to be a part of something but at least for me in regards to you and everything you've created and obviously Steve here as well and [ __ ] everyone else involved I'm grateful to be a part of it yeah it's good I love having you involved and you know I enjoy your company as well too even business aside like you're a funny great guy I love your company and your energy um and content-wise too I love having you in the content yeah now it's no more I think it'd be I think it'd be great if this year we could just do a lot of content all together Steve if he's allowed on YouTube yeah it's that's a tough one yeah I mean just I think this year I mean even if it's not YouTube I was saying too like let's just let's use this year too like let's just do a lot of let's continue the Takeover even even short form stuff I think short form stuff too yeah like Instagram too I was telling Steve that too but anything he's doing for his Rumble should be like but yeah there's a lot of short form [ __ ] that what oh thank you how did I catch how did I cast all right boys listen up shout out from another one of our sponsors mid mobile now check this out this is one of the most important things in life and in business and all this stuff cutting your costs okay we gotta call it what it is I've had cell plans that have just been exorbitantly high mint mobile is here to save you mint mobile is here to give you a cellular plan even with your existing phone because you could switch over with an esim for only 15 a month a limited talk and text they got the the fastest [ __ ] Network for high-speed [ __ ] information ever again this is 15 a month I've spent probably like I don't even know hundreds of dollars for a plan and yes it has like a few lines on it but like literally hundreds of dollars a month and uh I found out about mimo when I'm like what what's going 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be really [ __ ] lame and I'm proud of you man like you you've done so much for like so many people your family obviously the audience everyone but it's like if you didn't keep pushing this forward I know because I remember at one point this is no knock on Jesse I remember talking to you about this and seeing how much effort you put in every single day for this and and I was looking at and again it's not a knock on Jesse I saw other people just you know kind of not wanting to be a part of it as much and it makes sense because they they live that experience and then they're ready to move on to someone else and I completely understand it but I I know I remember when we started filming stuff back in the day it was like you had to do these things and now you kind of got to this point where you know you're able to obviously continue doing it continue to grow and there's so much more to do but if you didn't keep pushing that forward the way you did it wouldn't be what this is today for all of us for sure but yeah I guess in his defense too it's like if you're not happy yeah not knocking no I know you didn't knock him but yeah if he just wasn't happy so it's different I think if I'm never not happy doing this [ __ ] I would stop too I'm just actually happy doing it yeah no I get it you know like I had that little period of two weeks ago where I wasn't feeling that great yeah and if that continued like dude I wouldn't be able to physically be here doing this right that's one thing I learned like the last you know two months just two is just like dude really like being happy is the most important thing yeah for sure and that that's again that's so cliche but I've been through times where it's like damn like you know you're just not feeling happy and there's nothing worse than that right so that's one thing this year too it's like we're gonna keep killing it too but I'm also keeping them in mind that it's like dude if you're not happy then this shit's all [ __ ] pointless it is really really absolutely almost everything if we if we just do [ __ ] we just do it just to do it we're going to be [ __ ] miserable man yeah so I think that's a big thing this year but I'm excited for this year man I am too I'm really excited I just again people are like yo it's the pivotal moment like it's still gonna get bigger bro yeah I think we're gonna just be something like so big like we're just I just think we're gonna be so big like oh there's gonna be at the top of like the business game yeah I think we got to go crazy this year though we gotta go crazy and we gotta we got to adapt to the new [ __ ] yeah we gotta we gotta get more short form [ __ ] out it's a fact yeah and yeah milk videos we're gonna do probably once a month podcast that's a [ __ ] yeah that's easy the best [ __ ] we're gonna get the best guess and [ __ ] um yeah we got a good team now too yeah I saw it so it'd be good to have you in the videos too Steiny's been dope too yeah gambles is [ __ ] dope yeah man but I just I again cousin Gabe Steve I just want to say I'm proud of you for real man you've done you because like I said all those people all exist kind of in this in this world in relationship to what you continue to push forward I think too I've been noticing too I mean it's crazy when I first met you and we started hanging out like where raw gear was at oh bro compared to where it's at now no I'm not bro I mean like you you like really you really transformed it yeah I'm not gonna lie man like like I like I don't want to [ __ ] on it but like before it was like pretty much nothing right yeah like you were doing it but like yeah now it's like a full-fledged brand thing and like all the people that you have repping it and [ __ ] yeah like it's it's inspiring to me too yeah I'm being dead honestly no I get you and it's cool because the truth is I remember um I remember years ago when we were doing business stuff together and we were sending each other like numbers and stuff and I was looking at your numbers looking at mine and I was like damn and then I as soon as like we did that we like worked on some stuff that's besides the point is I saw this and then I started to see because we would continue to talk about like um growth like what you were doing like you know and I see these crazy numbers because you're also you would also promote it like and I'm not gonna lie I remember those days and I was like damn yo what the [ __ ] I was like there's no there's like I I need to step this up so even what I where I'm at now with raw gear specifically is also part of that motivation came from seeing what was possible the things that you were doing and we were doing I was a part of it as well but watching watching that go crazy I was like yo it was like just simply seeing something and being able like oh this is really possible because I saw it like you couldn't deny it right I was like [ __ ] I I think I want to be able to do that so you even me obviously I've always had big aspirations but seeing it be like super tangible through what you were doing I was like [ __ ] that that like I said it's like the inspiration goes back and forth 100 and that's with everyone too yeah you or Steve or even watching other creators and stuff yeah you always like even if they're smaller than you you'll look at them and you'll be like damn like yeah I got to go home they did this I want to do this and I think I think this is the difference that's key too yeah and like this is the difference between like really successful people versus people who like flounder is like people who see other people do it and they get motivated to be better instead of like demotivated to like [ __ ] that person I you know I don't have this because of them or whatever that's a good that's actually a good point too I remember that like I remember when we used to go to like La parties and like we wouldn't get let in and [ __ ] yeah that used to happen all the time or like someone would tell you to pull up and like um because when we first came to La we were nobodies right so like we'd go to we go to parties and like maybe you wouldn't get in and like all the influencers that like you were like that were popping at the time this was like Vine days yeah like all those like Vine the viners are in there and [ __ ] too like yeah and you didn't get let in like I remember like some of our team would get pissed and I would just get like pissed in a good way I I it would literally motivate me so much yeah every time that I got the night from an LA party I would just flip it into motivation and be like all right like this is never gonna happen like one day and [ __ ] yeah you know what I mean for sure yeah that's huge man it's all how you Channel this [ __ ] the energy and like into the things that you're doing like I said a lot of people choose to take the left way and be like yeah this sucks man uh my life I don't have because he has it and you you like everything you said is like literally the ideas around just keeping it real what you enjoy not quitting obviously and like using all this motivation to make you better instead of make you work that's a good last one yeah channeling it yeah that's what you did man it's impressive I'm proud of you thank you congrats on everything let's keep it up this year let's [ __ ] yeah let's go big full sin happy Dad [ __ ] everything man really really [ __ ] dope yeah and I'm happy that I'm part of it so let's keep it thank you for coming on the Pod making the time because I know you [ __ ] are busy I was gonna say too on the on the topic of that I think we should maybe talk about uh let them decide what a full sun raw gear collab I would love to that go crazy whether we do it limited or whatever but it will go nuts make it super dope yeah I'm with it be dope yo they're gonna go nuts in the comments for that well now we built the type yeah be crazy I appreciate you coming man for real all right bro um subscribe iTunes YouTube all that [ __ ] um yeah bro your Legend good job all right bro yes sir hell yeah

Channel: Bradley Martyn's Raw Talk

Views: 1,286,230

Keywords: bradley martyn, fitness podcast, motivational, how to build muscle, zoo culture, video podcast, exercise, bmfit, joe rogan, comedy, full send

Id: L4F6fWdcM8o

Length: 83min 9sec (4989 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 07 2023