- If someone comes in
our classroom with a gun, we're supposed to throw our
school supplies at the shooter. - Is it a hard thing to think about? - Yeah, like really, really hard. 'Cause I know that it's
possible, you know? (steady techno music) - Hi.
- Hi. - I'm Niray, nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you I'm Tyrone. - Tyrone, how old are you? - I'm 14.
- 14. Do you know what we are here
to talk about today or-- - About you. - That's correct, it's
about experience that I had when I was in college,
when I was 19 years old. Do you know kind of what happened, or-- - I believe you were in a school shooting. - Yes.
- But that's kind of the extent of what I know. - Do you kind of know what we're here to talk about today or the topic? - School shooting? - Yes, (laughs) you're like (groans) okay, I hope it's not the one. (both laugh) - Is it okay to laugh about that, I feel like I'm making a joke out of it but it's 'cause it scares me. - You're totally allowed
to laugh about it. I often have to make jokes
about it and a little bit, make it lighter just because it's a hard thing to talk about. Have you guys ever heard of
the Virginia Tech shooting? - It wasn't the first, it
was pretty early on before-- - Correct, it was in 2007. I was in a French class, so, you know, normally typical kind of cold day and without any warning, a student locked us inside the building, like he chained the door shut on purpose and he killed 30 people. - I just wanted to know what
your immediate thoughts were when you first heard shots? - I didn't really realize
they were gunshots initially because it felt like was behind me and then it started to escalate and it got closer, and closer, and closer. And I was just thinking, what is going on? You know no one said there's a shooting, those words were never,
no one called a lockdown and things like that. He quickly burst into the
room and I was in shock, I didn't know what was going on. My teacher and another student, they tried to push their desk against
the door to keep him out but unfortunate they weren't strong enough and so he burst through
and he shot them first. At this point I got under a desk, he shot every single person
but one in my classroom so I was almost thinking, okay your turn is
coming, take it, hold on, and that's when he shot
me in the back, so. - I was shot in the back the first time and then in my butt (laughs). - Getting shot, what did that feel like? - It felt like a hot pinch, it was not like a movie
reeanctment where everyone is screaming and arms
flailing, it's not like that. It just feels like heat. It's very hot, that's the
best way I would describe it and then after awhile because
I was losing so much blood, I started to feel very cold, like I was just drenched in water and then I start to fall asleep and kind of lose consciousness, so. So yeah, so it sucks, it
hurts, (laughs) it hurts a lot. - How long did it take you to get in touch with your parents
after you were shot? - I did not see my parents
until I woke up in the hospital and my surgeon called my
parents and told my mom that I was shot and that I had to have surgery and they were like, we can't wait for you. So, I woke up at around
4 p.m. that afternoon and they were in the hospital. That's the biggest guilt
that I have in the shooting, is that I did not call my parents. So I always pick up the
phone when my parents call, I'm really quick to respond to them because I just feel, I feel really bad about those four hours that
they had to drive down. Has your school talked
about mass shootings or lockdown drills and things like that? - We have a little a bit,
we've done some lockdowns for if there was ever a shooter
in the area or something. - Do you know what you
might do if you were in that similar situation? - I think that I would
kind of try to hide. - That's a pretty fair,
(laughs) fair point. The awkward thing is
that a lot of training would teach you to lockdown, but if you can also get out
of the space, you should. - Kind of, but that's also kind of like a really harsh thing. I'm not saying don't listen
to your teacher but... if you have a really good sense and a really good gut-feeling that something dangerous is happening, do what you think is best, and that might be disobeying the teacher. But you may be safer
outside of that space. - At my school they have us all group up in a closet or something, and
that always felt weird to me. I asked my teacher, "Why
are we all going right here, where if someone just opened
the door we would all be here?" And they were kind of
like, well I don't know, I can't really do anything about it. I feel like in my school we're
kind of in a little bubble. We're like, oh that's all
happening in other places, but I think we just need to
be more realistic about that because it could happen here. - Have you ever heard an
adult say something like, it's never going to happen here? - Yes. - Do you believe that? - No. - I hope it doesn't happen
here, I'm not saying it will. But I think when you say that you subconsciously don't even open yourself up to being prepared and
have those conversations. Do you feel pretty safe at school usually? - Yeah, sometimes, yeah
I'll say that, yeah. - What are your thoughts
on arming teachers, giving them guns? - I'm not trying to say anything bad but there be some teachers
that look a little sketchy and kind of scary and might
just make the students in the classroom feel unsafe
and it just might have the environment feel weird, you know? - I think it's a little beyond what a teacher has signed up for. They're like, okay I want
to spend time with kids and I wanna enlighten the
next generation, right, but then they're given this extra job like you need to carry this
thing that could kill someone. - I agree 100%. Do you think your school does enough for preparedness and training? - If someone comes in
our classroom with a gun we're supposed to throw anything within reach at them,
in hopes to stop them. I don't like that it's come to that where we have to try and save ourselves by throwing our school
supplies at the shooter. - Is it a hard thing to think about? - Yeah, but like really, really hard. 'Cause I know that it's
possible, you know? - Are there warning signs
that you should look for, for a shooting? - Yeah, there's definitely
some things to be aware of. Sometimes people openly talk about wanting to do a school shooting. That, you should definitely tell a teacher or a parent or whoever that you trust. If you see someone, that
they're impressed by it, that's enough to just check in on them and see if they're okay. You can't say that, oh because
you did this you're gonna do a school shooting but
the whole point of it is to speak up and to share those concerns because all school
shootings are preplanned and often we, as their
friends or their parents or whoever else, can stop that planning. - What are some ways that you've dealt with your trauma after what happened? - I first found a really good counselor so that was incredibly helpful and then I tried to take things lighter. So people will, you know, freak out, oh there's traffic, that sucks. But at the end of the day, you're alive, you got to sit in this traffic. I know it sounds super
corny but it's true. The privilege to have
annoyances is a real thing and sometimes my friends will remind me, be grateful for traffic and
I'm like, shut up (laughs). But it's true, be grateful for it because you never know
what the next day brings. (gentle pop tune) Hi, I'm Kristina and
thank you for watching Kids Meet a School Shooting Survivor. To learn more about my
experience and my foundation please check for a link below, buh-bye.
