Kamaru Usman Reflects on Colby Covington Fight | Joe Rogan

the Joe Rogan experience and so this strength and conditioning coach that you've been working with from the beginning what give us like a what it was a regular routine for you like what kind of [ __ ] does you have you do dr. Peake okay so we just we started getting back in there literally last week so he took a little time off how's your hand you're like that's the thing I free I went and know the doctors gonna hate me for this I had a cast on so then I go to Vegas and um and I talked to the doctors you know the UFC doc and those guys in Vegas and you know it's not broken you know it's just an issue with the ligaments you can see seeing this right hand right here at the bottom of thumb you could clearly see the ligaments not working there and then here there's that bump in between so they don't come out as much and that's causing me I don't have I didn't have I don't have the strength like you know being able to pull and this is a big part of my game is if I get around you I get a body like I don't care what you're doing you're just not getting me off I just I've spent years just working on that grip to where you just not you know letting me off until I let off right and so now I'm not being able to do that but it's healing fast and I was in Vegas and the doctors like we can just cut the cast off and make you a hard removable one that I can take off on and off so I can shower because that was the thing you're stuck in this cast for four weeks you can't really shower with it you got a shower with your arm up in the air on your hand stands out any itches and you gotta stick stuff in there yeah and psychological I started getting a little anxiety with the two cuz it's like can't get this thing off my head sometimes I was laying there I'm just like I want it off my hand I can't get it off so is it a ligament tear is that what um it's not a tear they they thought it was a tear at the bottom but you know strength is coming back so slowly so brain yeah it was like a really bad strand that and that a bumpy still there for some reason so we're working on it I'm doing everything but no fry and no fracture which is good news so I don't have to be out for too long yeah because you sent me the tape of like when you hurt in training yeah see it like so it was one of those things where you you hit with the thumb i cuz you know when you got those big gloves on you know you can't really make a full fist right you know so especially when you have wraps so your hands kind of in there like this so you throw a punch the wrong way or somebody comes into your wrong way it's like boom you hurt yeah so I heard it at one of my gosh what am I gonna do now you know so now everything's going through my head I got this guy that's been talking [ __ ] for years and and everybody in the world is telling me you have to kill this guy you can't be that you can't lose to him so now I'm going through all this in my mind though I can't be that guy I can't lose to that guy I can't lose to that guy and then it's like then I'm like okay no it feels a little better I'm going I'm gonna spar hard so I start sparring boom right away hurted again and out I a couple of times almost cry and you're getting it taped up more times so getting it taped up episode is oh it's still hurting but then he gets to a point where I'm decide [ __ ] got to block it out you know five to five I got to block it out so I'm gonna dressing-room a train everything's okay I block it out not even thinking about it I'm thinking about going to work then I get in there in first round I don't even remember I just remember throwing it boom something's wrong oh and I'm just like okay play it off play it off and then prosecco be like you know he comes on and he's you know he's doing his job he's fighting me he's in there landing strikes and I'm like okay you know but at some point I never thought I'm gonna lose this fight because I never think like that it's like oh I'm not gonna lose this fight even if something's not going my way I just I'm gonna adapt he funny wasn't it but like on the what the scorecards at the end of the fight we were very close yeah I I knew it was close I would cause it for the first time ever I asked my coaches did I win that round hmm I've never in my career done that I'm the type of guy even when I was resting I'm the right type of wrestler who I like to run up the scoreboard I don't like the live and leave any doubt that I won that round I'm gonna dominate that run I'm gonna make sure I won so in my head I don't know I don't need to ask hmm for the first time in my career I went back my I went around that went that around but I even by me asking that I never thought oh I'm not gonna finish this fight I always knew I was gonna finish the fight but I just was like I was did I win that then I win that you know I don't know why I don't know how or what what was going on in my head but for some reason I asked I was asking so I knew the fight was closed it was a good [ __ ] fight man it was a good fight the thing about Colby is he tricks you into thinking he sucks cuz he's got a goofy suit on and he talks crazy and you know he wears the maggot hat and all that stuff but but then if you didn't see any of that if you just watched him fight you liked that [ __ ] puts a pace on people yeah allowed he did a Robbie Lawler I was like good lord like nobody does that to Robbie Lawler like he put a [ __ ] and pace on him it just stayed on him like guys have wrestled him before Robbie you know like got a hold of them dragged him down tried to make it a you know a state you know try to stall him out that's not what Colby did Colby just stuck on him like glue and just put that pace on him yeah I mean he really he really that he really showed you know like how good he is and I mean I I give respect or respect to I'm no I'm no hater you know I know this kicked fight I know he was good I knew he was tough and I knew he's a competitor as well he's always been a competitor I knew guys that weren't wrestling teams with this guy you know besides Jon Jones I knew other guys you know that I'm forgive friends with that wrestled with him so I've always known that he was a competitor that he was gonna come out and try to compete you know but like I said I just mentally I think I'm just on a different level than these guys just because everything that I've been through that I've done in my life has shaped me into the man that I am so mentally I'm just on a different level than him well you have to have that right yeah and I just I just I felt it I knew it and I felt it even and now so more so than ever because now you've got all the fans but you know on what he's got his fans you've got everyone has fans that are gonna talk [ __ ] to you well the first time that you had a close fight yeah you have saying yeah which is kind of crazy I mean think about your career it's pretty [ __ ] nuts I mean you win the title over one of the welterweights of all time and tyron woodley and you just dominate him right you think about all the other guys dos Anjos all those guys you smashed and why I mean that's you had a crazy run-up to the title and then a crazy title winning effort and then this was the first time we saw you in like a very close fight yeah I mean attest to him to like he's a tough guy at the end of the day you know to make fantastic fights you gotta have the right dance partner yes yeah and Fraser needed Olly yeah I need each other and he was the right dance partner and to be honest with you you know if I didn't take too much out of him because each fight takes something from you you know internally so if I didn't take too much from him I think I might see him again to be honest because like it's clear that we are the two best guys in the division and so yeah I mean I look forward to seeing them again I think you guys will see each other again yeah and some guys get really wrapped up in the fear of looking bad yes the looking bad is just like hanging over their head I'm about to get knocked out everyone's gonna laugh I'm that's very fun of me they're gonna [ __ ] with me that's very rude can you imagine me to go be covered oh that would have been the biggest one right there's so much oh my god it was so bad man I'm telling you I'm in different cuts I mean Abu Dhabi people run up to me in the mall man I can't wait for you to kill this guy I go I'm in Brazil oh my god I can't wait for you to kill this guy I'm in Dominican Republic they can't even speak English but they're like okay with me everywhere so I imagine me going out there and what I was feeling I had to really I took advice from Rashad I had to really make friends with that feeling and accept it well I'll tell you what man at the weigh-ins when Suzy painted the Nigerian flag on your face and you're staring them down and you just had this big smile on your face you look so calm I was like that guy is ready yeah you were but you were so composed at the weigh-in I was like there's no [ __ ] there was no [ __ ] you there was no no emotions you just had a big smile on your face yeah I mean it's at some point you get to the words it's no longer the talking like now I get it you got to sell a fight here and there you know this and that but I try to stay as true to myself as possible like obviously I understand people want to be entertained and I'm gonna do the best that I can now of selling a fight without going too far out of myself but when that when that contract is signed and I know that I have to go in there and take care of business there's no more of that like I have to be myself I have to be real and this guy said a lot of things that were very very personal you know a lot of things about my previous manager you know a lot of things about my team my current manager you know and a lot of things about my money my family my situation as well as as far as my father all of that to where it really hit home to where it's the best way for me to teach you a lesson it's not by going in there fighting angry I have to go in there being calculated like my normal self and really teach you a lesson because anything you say can and will be used against inside that achtung what was he saying to you he was talking to you I couldn't hear because it was so loud and that the arena when you were weigh-in what was he saying to you I think he was saying I'll be ready if you hope you're ready tomorrow jr. I hope you're ready hope you're ready I'm um I'm coming hope you're ready tomorrow I'm coming he's singing so calm - he had a big-ass smile but but but you know when I look at these guys I'm looking for more than just that like I'm reading his body I'm reading everything and he's looking at me the whole time and he did the best cuz I know he's a competitor he did the best he could to hide his fear mm you know and and I was afraid - I'm afraid every one of these fights you gotta be afraid but I make friends with it I'm okay with being afraid I'm not I'm not worried about I am okay with that so I'm watching him and there's there's a moment if you see that way in video we just stare down when you're you know after we stare down we stare down and I'm watching him I'm watching the whole time just watching him and he's doing this good job he's trying to stay on me stay on me stay on me stay on me and then he looks away and I just read his body I'm just psyched okay I know how worried he is I know how worried isn't it weird like you know that your opponent is worried you know everyone's worried right everyone's nervous but you gotta kind of see it yes you could [ __ ] yourself in your mind that this guy's not even scared yeah I'm scared and he's not yes you can mine [ __ ] yourself even though you know it's not even like everyone before a cage fight has to be nervous absolutely and um and yeah it's weird but cuz I'm looking at him and I'm studying here and I'm seeing the level of fear that he has and you know I'm trying to assess the level of fear whether it's it's something I can deal with or something that sure I'm just gonna have to going to have no choice he looked pretty fun coffee he's very confident but you know I can see where a how superior I was in there to him my level of fear and his level of fear I can see where they were at because and and you got to be mindful of his level of fear as well because you a caged animal was very dangerous animal you know and so I can I'm seeing them and that's kind of how the way he that was that went I watched that fight again the other day I was playing it in the gym while I was working I was like that is a crazy pace like you [ __ ] came out guns blazing I mean it in my opinion is one of the very best welterweight title fights ever I mean it was epic it was actually watching the pace there wasn't I'm watching I'm watching I'm watching I'm watching I'm watching keep it on and keep it on him I'm watching I'm watching I'm watching it boom it looks away well yeah I do I was talking to him I'm like I'm like oh there was just a little moment just to read his spirit I felt his spirit at that moment and I'm just like it's not the same it's not the same like I'm gonna hurt this kid it's not the same but he's gonna come out he's gonna fight but I'm gonna hurt him you know at no point in that fight did I think I wasn't gonna hurt him when you dropped him in the the final round when you stopped the fight yeah when you dropped him you saw him go down what was going through your head I was like oh I'm hitting now I'm hitting because I you know when you when you land a butyl and punch good you don't really feel it and so at that moment I was kind of clipping him I was connecting everything I clipped him with what he was feeling the power at that point mm-hmm you know I've hurt him a few times before but everyone kept talking about his pace his pace this man and I carry power all the way throughout that's how I train I the power is gonna be the same the way I hit mitts with my coaches and roofed and all these it's all the same it's not all tap tap tap tap tap here and then a little bit of power here tap tap tap tell you a little bit yes I know how to do that I know how to mix it up like boxers do they know how to put a little bit into this distract you with this then touch it with that I know how to do that too but I carry the power all the way throughout so by the fifth round when I hit him with that I think I hit him with the body and I hit a punch I hit him with the right hand that stunned him and he stumbled back and at that point I was in I was in just in the driver's seat I'm like okay I'm feeling him and then I hit him with a left hook boom that heard of it I can feel every one they hurt him because I'm not really feeling the punches here and then when I put that cannon on his face boom and he went down I was like stay relaxed stay relaxed we got time you know the goal is to get him out of here I'm not gonna jump on him because I've made that mistake before I've dropped the guy now and jumped on him going crazy trying to get him out of there he stay on him just stay relaxed and I'm gonna get a nut and at that point I was just in you get to a certain zone to where you see him coming and he's like punches to going by and then I'll and the other one he drops and I'm just like okay it's time to to get on him and finish him here did you recognize that something's wrong with his jaw boom there it is no I and I I watched it fight over in my coat and my corner told me that his jaw was broken I didn't even hear them boom that second right in I didn't even hear that were you surprised the way they stopped the fight no no but you know and I and this is this is what I'm saying is uh I gotta say I was a little surprised when I look at this yeah I mean you you think about it like that and it's like oh man he got up right right away you know like it was might have been an early stoppage but if you if you watch their last like that 30-second before that you see the shots that he was taking like I hit him with that right hand boom he stumbled back almost fell down then I was wondering if they knew that his jaw was broken I mean that's been referee them I know you know I but I didn't but if you see him take shots like that and you just got dropped twice right and now you're holding on to a leg and now this is just an ear muff you're trying to protect yourself and I'm having no sign of stopping mm-hmm you know that's the referees job to get in there and stop you you know and I know some guys like oh well they should have let him go to terrify that you should have let him get knocked out completely or this and that you know but it's a referee he's not doing his job of protecting you if that happens it's interesting that you said every fight takes a little bit out of you yes and that's I think that's important for people to hear because I you know we've all seen fighters and you know we go to boxing and perfect examples Meldrick Taylor when he fought Julio Cesar Chavez did you ever see that fight no tremendous fight Meldrick Taylor was winning the fight but Chavez just kept the pressure on him kept the pressure on was beating his body beating his body kept the pressure on him and then finally with like literally I think the fight was stopped with four seconds to go Wow yeah Richard Steele waved it off and Meldrick Taylor stood up and he talked to him but you could tell Master Taylor was out of it and they stopped the fight Meldrick Taylor was never the same again he was never the same again Terry Norris started him after that he started slurring his words it was real bad it was like that one fight took everything out of them yeah there's uh there's something people don't really see I mean everyone is attracted to violence everybody wants to see the violence they want to see you get hit I want to see you hit someone they want to see the blood you know but people don't see what this takes away from your spirit each fight win or lose it takes something from you like only myself and Kobe Covington are gonna know what that fight did to us now could I do it now I can do it again next week I have no problem doing it yet but each and every fight takes something away from you but this is a with Allen stout more so for sure if you take a beating right but if is it balanced out by hard training and recuperation till you can maintain the exact same level or is every fight you're like slightly less good than you were before but you're so much better that you still have enough leeway that know that as far as the preparation and training all of that stuff yeah that accounts so yeah that takes it takes it away from you but I'm saying the act of actually fighting the fight from your spirit from your energy that takes away from you so you mean like your ability to get up for it yes your your ability to to fight another man your ability to that bravado to fight another person that that spirit that killer spirit it takes away from you what any and it could add to it it changes that spirit in some shape form of fashion it absolutely does it's there's this video a while back I forget the fighter he was a wrestler to turn fighter and he's like bleached blond hair I forget his name but I think the video was called unfaded glory I think USA Wrestling made it put it together and had all these wrestlers on it but um you know Brandon slay traveled the log never was my teammate a lot of different you know was on that video and I watched that while I was training for the 2012 Olympics trying to make the team and that video stays with me changed my mentality or how to think because it really put things in perspective because you go out there and you battle this hard match and you lose to this guy like Joe I've won hundreds of wrestling matches I can't remember hardly any of them the ones that I've lost though I remember most of them why is that because each one took something away from my spirit somehow I remember he the one they took something away from me like I I can tell you really the fights I won in many fights I can really you know I don't really care that much about I win and I move on but the one that I lost oh yeah I know exactly why I knew what happened I knew I know what happened in that fight [Applause]

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