Justice League - Anatomy of a Disaster (Part 1)
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Channel: The Critical Drinker
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Keywords: Batman, Wonder woman, DCEU, Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, The Flash, Aquaman, Superman
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Length: 18min 21sec (1101 seconds)
Published: Wed Apr 29 2020
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Its very clear what happened, WB wanted Avengers money without doing the leg work.
BvS had 5 movies worth of storylines.
I think his opinion of Man of Steel is WAAAAAY Off. Snyder did NOT set out to do a "Sad Superman" he set out to do a "REALISTIC Superman".
How was it rushed?
First movie 2013 - Second movie 2016
If the movies were received well there would be no problem. If anything the Dceu was moving slow.
Going from Team ups to spin offs (instead of the MCU way) wasn't the problem. Aquaman was received well, Wonder Woman the same. They did well and continue.
If the Dceu build it up like the Mcu with solo movies but had again the same movies as crossovers it would still fail.
It's a hard point to argue against because WB admitted it themselves by saying that they'll focus on more standalone films from now on.
I see, so this great and all knowing Youtuber not only spouts out the same rhetoric that every other "expert" states on a regular basis, but also changes the goal post so that no matter what WB/DC do they must always be regarded as failures. I apologize if this sounds cross. This is not directed to the OP nor am I trying to pick a fight. However I'm tired of hearing the same talking points reverberated over and over again as well as having these points shoved in my face everywhere I go online. Look I'm not saying that mistakes were not made, or that studio is innocent in their decisions or that valid criticisms cannot be made. However when I see content like this I find it to be problematic because it doesn't come off as informative, constructive or even entertaining. Instead it just comes off petty, arrogant and only done to look cool in the eyes of the masses.
When it comes to how the DCEU should be and it should have started, we can argue all day about it and get nowhere. In my opinion the franchise was always going to have problems getting off the ground. For WB to take their DC properties in this direction was unknown territory and when you are dealing with something like a shared universe mistakes are bound to happen. Even Marvel, with all their success, have not executed their franchise flawlessly as they have dropped plotlines and changed their creative direction. For DC it was always going to be process to find their identity and I think they have found it regardless of certain aspect being more prevalent than other.
So when it comes to the mistakes of the franchise all the studio can do is learn from it and move on and the same thing can be said about us as fans. Yes it can be interesting to speculate on what could have been, and discussing the studio's follies can be captivating talking points. However to constantly dwell on these mistakes is not productive and it only hurts the integrity of not just the studio or filmmakers, but also the critics who stand by these claims.
Oh please... everyone was on board with Justice League Mortal by George Miller. You don't need solo movies before an ensemble movie. Take Watchmen: every character has a proper character arc. It makes you care about every single one of them. Guess who directed Watchmen? That's right: the same director who got his JL movie butchered to pieces.
I'm not saying his director's cut will prove me right... I'm saying that the chances are pretty high. And that it doesn't make sense to have this same argument again and again. The DCEU was not rushed. It was just ruined by JL's reshoots.
It wasn't rushed though was it?
People have a perception of these things based on the MCU.
DCEU was not the MCU and wasn't trying to be until Johns took over.
It's fine that they tried to do what Marvel did (since it's fundamentally the same concept) but the problem is how they rushed it. We should have gotten a Batman solo film before BvS and more solo films before JL.
This has been said a million times now.