>> Tucker: JULIAN ASSANGE HAS >> Tucker: JULIAN ASSANGE HAS BEEN IN JAIL FOR AN AWFULLY LONG TIME. HE’S NOW IN JAIL IN THE U.K. HE WAS UNDER HOUSE ARREST IN A FOREIGN EMBASSY IN LONDON. THE U.S. HAS NO ACCUSED JULIAN ASSANGE OF VIOLATING THE ESPIONAGE ACT. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT TOOK US A VERY LONG TIME COMING YEARS TO ASK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION. WHAT EXACTLY DID JULIAN ASSANGE DO WRONG? ALL GOOD PEOPLE HATE JULIAN ASSANGE. WHAT WAS HIS CRIME EXACTLY? WAS HE HACKING INTO OTHER PEOPLES COMPUTERS, WAS HE STEALING SECRETS FROM THE U.S. GOVERNMENT? NO, HE WAS A JOURNALIST, HE WAS AN EDITOR, THAT IS LITERALLY TRUE. DO YOU THROW EDITORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY EMBARRASS YOU? PROBABLY SHOULDN’T, NOT A GOOD PRESIDENT TO SET EVEN IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE PERSON’S POLITICS, YOU SHOULD BE AGAINST THAT. WHY A GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE AGAINST HIM, WE RECENTLY SPOKE TO PAMELA ANDERSON WHO IS TRYING TO GET A PARDON FOR ASSANGE. >> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS IN HISTORY AND IN HIS LIFETIME IS ALSO WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. IT WAS ALL UP TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE REALLY CAN’T A HUGE FOLLOWING AT A HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF AND GRATEFULNESS FOR SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET. >> Tucker: WE SPOKE TO ROGER WATERS OF PINK FLOYD ABOUT IT. TONIGHT WE WILL SPEAK TO JULIAN ASSANGE’S FATHER AND BROTHER. JOHN IS HIS FATHER, GABRIEL IS HIS BROTHER, WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM ON THE SHOW TONIGHT FOR THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. >> THANK YOU, TUCKER. >> Tucker: THIS IS A SINCERE QUESTION, WHAT DID YOUR SON TO WRONG EXACTLY? WHAT IS HIS SPECIFIC CRIME? >> WELL, NO SPECIFIC CRIME AT ALL, TUCKER. IT’S JUST OFFENDED SOME PEOPLE IN CERTAIN SECTIONS OF WASHINGTON AND CONSEQUENTLY HAS FACED 12 YEARS NOW OF PERSECUTION AND HARASSMENT. JULIAN, AS YOU KNOW, IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. YET HE’S BEEN TRIED UNDER THE 1917 ESPIONAGE ACT TO BRING JULIAN TO THE UNITED STATES UNDER THE THREAT OF 175 YEARS IN JAIL. NOTHING AT ALL, JUST EMBARRASSED A FEW PEOPLE. >> Tucker: FOR THOSE OF US IN THE BUSINESS OF EMBARRASSING AND OFFENDING PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, THIS IS A BAD PRECEDENT, LET’S BE HONEST, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS I’M INTERESTED IN THIS CASE. GABRIEL, TELL US THE CONDITIONS YOUR BROTHER IS IN RIGHT NOW. CAN YOU GO SEE HIM IF YOU WANT? >> HE’S IN BELMONT PRISON. I VISITED HIM IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR AND SINCE THEN, HE HAS BEEN IN TOTAL LOCKDOWN DUE TO COVID SO HE HAS HAD NO VISITORS FROM ANY FAMILY OR HIS LAWYERS, SO HE IS IN A MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON, SO ALL THE MOST DANGEROUS PRISONERS FROM AROUND THE U.K., THE MOST VIOLENT PRISONERS, AND HE HAS BEEN THERE UP ON THREE YEARS NOW. HE WON HIS EXTRADITION CASE ON JANUARY 4TH AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT APPEALED AND A COUPLE DAYS LATER HE WAS REFUSED BAIL. SINCE JANUARY, HE’S BEEN SITTING IN PRISON, AND THEN ASCEND MAN, NOT ABLE TO SEE HIS FAMILY OR LAWYERS, AND WE JUST DON’T KNOW WHEN THE APPEAL WILL HAPPEN OR WHEN THIS WILL END. >> Tucker: NOT ONLY IN A CENT, I DON’T EVEN THINK THE CHARGES MAKE ANY SENSE AGAINST HIM. IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY ALLOWED, IT IS THE FIRST PART OF OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PRINT THINGS THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T LIKE, WHICH IS WHAT HE DID. LET ME ASK YOU, IS ANY AMERICAN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I KNOW THERE ARE ACTIVIST TYPES AND CABLE NEWS HOSTS, BUT AS ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL TAKING YOUR SIDE ON THIS? >> NOT SINCE BIDEN’S INAUGURATION, NOT SINCE PRESIDENT BIDEN’S INAUGURATION, 25TH OF JANUARY, WE HAVEN’T HAD -- IT’S BEEN SILENT FROM PEOPLE IN CONGRESS AND THE SENATE, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ARE DOING THIS, IS TO ENCOURAGE AMERICANS TO STAND UP FOR THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. AND SPEAK TO THEIR CONGRESSPEOPLE AND TELL THEM THAT AN ESPIONAGE ACT, PROSECUTION -- >> GO ON? >> Tucker: I THINK WE ARE HAVING SOME AUDIO PROBLEMS BUT LET ME FINISH HER SENTENCE, AN ESPIONAGE ACT, PROSECUTION FOR HIM PRINTING THINGS THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT HIM TO PRINT. IT’S GOING TO COME BACK AND BITE US IN THE BUTT AND WE SHOULD NOT
