Hungarian prime minister hits back at Biden calling him a 'thug' on 'Tucker'

good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight of the nearly 200 different countries on the face of the earth precisely one of them has an elected leader who publicly identifies as a western-style conservative his name is victor orban he's the prime minister of hungary hungary is a small country in the middle of central europe it has no navy it has no nuclear weapons its gdp is smaller than new york states so you wouldn't think leaders in washington would pay a lot of attention to hungary but they do obsessively by rejecting the tenets of neoliberalism victor orban has personally offended them and enraged them what does victor orban believe just a few years ago his views would have seemed moderate and conventional he thinks families are more important than banks he believes countries need borders for saying these things out loud orbon has been vilified left-wing ngos have denounced him as a fascist a destroyer of democracy last fall joe biden suggested he's a totalitarian dictator official washington despises victor orban so thoroughly that many including neocons in and around the state department are backing the open anti-semites who are running against him in next april's elections in hungary we've watched all of this from the united states and we've wondered if what we've heard could be true so this week we came to hungary to see for ourselves we sat down with orban for a couple of long conversations including one this morning in a moment we'll show you some of that you can make up your own mind about it but first a word about hungary even if you understand that the american news media lie it is always bewildering to see the extent of their dishonesty nothing prepares you for it we've read many times how repressive hungary is freedom house ngo in washington that's funded almost exclusively by the u s government describes hungary as much less free than south africa with fewer civil liberties that's not just wrong it's insane in fact if you live in the united states it is bitter to see the contrast between say budapest and new york city let's say you lived in a big american city and you decided to loudly and publicly attack joe biden's policies his policies on immigration or covet or transgender athletes if you kept talking like that you would likely be silenced by joe biden's allies in silicon valley if you kept it up you might very well have to hire armed bodyguards that's common in the u.s ask around but it's unknown in hungary opposition figures here don't worry that they will be hurt for their opinions neither by the way is the prime minister orban regularly drives himself with no security so who's freer in what country are you more likely to lose your job for disagreeing with the ruling classes orthodoxy the answer is pretty obvious though if you're an american it is painful to admit it as we have discovered with that here's victor orban his accent is pretty thick but his english is precise he's worth hearing mr prime minister thank you very much so in 2015 hundreds of thousands of migrants appear on your southern border they appear all over europe they stream into germany the rest of the eu says welcome please come we can handle it we're strong enough hungary stands alone and saying no why why did you take a different position on migration from other european countries that was the only reasonable behavior if somebody without getting any permission on behalf of the hungarian state cross your border you have to defend your country and to say guys stop and if you would like to cross or you would like to come there's a legal procedure we have to do it but you can't cross you know without any kind of limitation and permission and any contribution and control of the hungarian state it's dangerous you have to defend your people against any danger and you think you have a right to do that of course that's cut from the it's coming from the god the nature so all arguments with us because this is our country this is our population this is our history this is our language so we have to do that of course if you are in trouble and there is nobody closer to you than the hungarians you have to be helpful but you can't say simply that okay it's a nice country i would like to come here and to live here because it's a nicer life this is not a human right to come here no way because it's our land it's a nation it's a community families history tradition language saying what you just said which i think will seem obvious to a lot of our viewers was very offensive to a lot of countries in western europe to their leaders because because the year many european countries decided to open a new chapter of their own history of the nation they call it a new society which is a post-christian post-national societies they believe firmly that if different communities even huge number of let's say muslim communities and the original inhabitant let's say christian communities are mixed up the outcome of this will be good there is no answer whether it will be good or bad but i think it's very risky and the chance that it will be not good but it will be very bad is obvious and each nation has the right to take this risk or to reject this risk we hungarians decided not to take that risk to mix up our society that's the reason why they attack hungary so harshly and that's the reason why my personal reputation is very bad you know i'm treated like the black sheep of the european union personally and sometimes hungary as well unfortunately so it has been six years since germany since angela merkel made the decision to let many hundreds of thousands of migrants into her country basically millions non-german speakers mostly muslim what have the effects been in germany you know diplomacy is uh required it requires some val behavior but it was their decision they took the risk and now they got what they have deserved that's their life i would not like to make any categories to describe what was the outcome of their decision i only insist on that the hungarians has the right to make our own choice you first became famous in the late 80s as a student as one of the leaders against soviet occupation of hungary and you were a hero to many in the united states and at the time during the cold war we paid close attention to hungary i think the u.s government was on your side you were on the side of the us government so 30 years later joe biden while running for president last year on abc news described you suggested that you were and i'm quoting a totalitarian thug you see what's happening in everything from belarus to poland to to hungary and the rise of totalitarian regimes in the world and as well as this president embraces all the thugs in the world is that bewildering for you to see the change and how do you respond to that characterization so first of all the reaction of that kind of opinion here in hungary is always not very polite but you think who is that guy to say that then we say okay he is the president of united states so we should take it seriously but anyway somebody who does not speak our language has a very limited knowledge on hungary even in the recent uh several decades of our life don't understanding us obviously having an opinion like that you know it's by itself it's a personal insight for all the hungarians but because he is the president of united states we have to be very modest we have to be very respectful and we have to make a lot of things to clarify that what he is doing is rather a fake we try to do that in a polite way because we respect the americans we respect the american democracy american culture so we would not like to destroy our relationship because the bilateral relationship with the americans is basically very good we are cooperating well on the on the field of defense as nato allies economic cooperation is excellent you are big investor here trade is going very well your businessman is finding a lot of possibilities here so everything is fine except the politics when the liberals are in government in washington that's the problem so we have to manage that because the the american hungarian good relationship is a value even if the americans don't perceive today it as it was previously so we have to save what we can save out of it but it's a little strange i don't think joe biden has ever referred to xi jinping for example who has murdered many of his political opponents famously uh as a totalitarian thug why would he single you and not just you by the way the the polish government as well the problem is the success so it's a real challenge for the liberal thinkers that what is going on in central europe poland and in hungary as well in hungary more outspoken probably we are speaking probably too much anyway uh on our intentions so so what is going on here is building up a society which is very successful economically politically culturally even in demography we have some success family policy so what you can see here could be described as a success story but the fundamentals of this success as totally different than it is wished and runned and created by the by many other western countries so the the western liberals cannot accept that inside the western civilization there is a conservative national alternative which is more successful at everyday life at the level of them than the liberal ones that's the reason why they criticize us they are fighting for themselves not against us but we are an example that somebody or a country which is based on traditional values on national identity based on uh tradition of christianity could be successful or sometimes even more successful than the leftist liberal government it's interesting as an american to see this so the the american media the bid administration the state department is opposed to you because they say that you're a totalitarian thug your opponents are a coalition of former communists and anti-semites is it strange to see the american left rooting for a coalition that includes anti-semites yeah i i let's say if you would have asked me several years ago whether could it happen that the ex-communist political forces and the anti-semite right is forming a coalition and running together at the election against a pro-israeli and pro-american pro-nato western-oriented government as we have as we are my answer would have been no it's impossible but now the international communities accept it you know so i understand that here in hungary the political parties would like to get to poverty as soon as they can therefore they try to make a broad coalition against the ruling government okay but to be accepted that you know by the international community so easily i'm surprised i'm surprised especially the behavior america is totally new new experience for me it does seem like hungary is moving in a completely different direction from the rest of the continent from the rest of the western world i mean do you think that 20 years from now that will be an unbridgeable divide i mean where does that let's just describe how i see it what i see that in the central european countries the country suffered the most because of the soviet occupation and communist dictatorship so in these countries my approach or the hungarian approach is very popular probably we have a majority in all of of that societies not only in poland and hungary they are more moderate i mean the others are more moderate but but if you understand what they are doing what are the fundamentals and their motivations is basically belonging to the same political family anyway yes on the western society there is a lot of people millions and millions of people who disagree uh the direction of the policy taken at this moment which is against the family or not respecting the families which is more uh based on migration which is more open society which is more welfare and so once and so on so i don't don't say that the political competition is over in the western european societies so i see chances and the key country is italy at this moment where the fight and the competition is very open so i can see chances in the western countries also that they are able to change their policy from liberal to conservative or from liberal leftists to christian democrats the chance is there but we are not internationally well organized so the forthcoming years are really exciting i i've noticed in the last few nights in budapest i've run into a number of americans who have come here because they want to be around people who agree with them who agree with you do you see budapest as as a kind of capital of this kind of thinking the capital of that kind of thinking or one of the capitals because the other central european countries are also very competitive and producing very nice ideas and uh organizing that kind of communities of conservative and and christian democrats thinkers as we do uh we cooperate with that countries so that kind of networks are getting closer to each other it's getting a real more and more real central european network but not only thinkers uh ordinary citizens average citizens are moving to central european countries it's not too uh it's not too dynamic at this moment but the signs are clear many christian families and conservative families who think that western europe is not secure enough the future is unstable uh you know the the public security is not provided and the ideological direction of the countries or the basic values of the countries build on is changing not to their taste or their intention they are looking for other places so if you go to the hungarian countryside you can find west european families who move to hungary first to have the second house because inside european union we have a free movement so first to have second house and then spending more and more time here so we can't exclude uh the future of the european history when there will be a new migration from west to the east within europe the christians and the conservatives try to find a better home we can't exclude that so up until very recently hungary which is a small nation 10 million people had two big nuclear-armed allies the united states and israel you were probably netanyahu's closest ally in europe you were close to donald trump both of them are gone where does that where does that leave you we are not very much fortunate in the recent years because donald trump was a great friend of hungary he was very much supportive to us not just personally but politically also so there was a good friendship between the two countries also and you know first america america first is a very positive message here in central europe because it means if for donald trump america first for us hungary could be first as well and let's cooperate on that basis right so so that was a very good foreign policy very effective and we cooperated very well um the same with the with vivid netanyahu who is a good friend of the hungarians and when he was in pablo he always invest a lot of energy to have a good relation with the central european countries we respect it very much but he lost also so the hungarian conservative christian judeo-christian democratic thinking lost two major international uh supporters and the opponents came into power so this is a totally new circumstance around hungary for me as a politician it's a strong challenge how to handle it you've got an election coming up in april um are you worried that there will be international interference in your election in in hungary that will happen we are not we are not worried of that we are prepared for that uh obviously the international left will do everything what they can do probably even more uh to change the government here in hungary we are aware of that and we are prepared for that how to take the fight and fight back when the president of the united states describes you as a totalitarian thug very serious thing to say about somebody i would i would note i mean that suggests that you know why wouldn't the the biden state department work to prevent you from being re-elected i think sooner or later the americans we realize that issues in hungary must be decided by the hungarians and it's better even for the leftist liberal government in the united states to have a good partner which is a conservative christian democratic supported long term by the people hungarian people it's better to have that than a government which is supported by america and take the position but losing after several months and creating destabilization and uncertainty so uh a not loved but stable partner is better than the uncertain new one that i hope the americans will understand it no wonder they don't want you to hear what he says you don't have to watch your country collapse you don't have to have leaders who hate the population or divide their own people against each other who make the country worse who open the borders who increase crime who encourage people to live on the sidewalk and do drugs if there's any lesson of talking to victor orban maybe it's that the conversation went on for quite some time one thing we learned man of the efforts to unseat him intense and stealthy we'll have a lot more on that on tucker carlson originals we're making that documentary now hey sean hannity here hey click here to subscribe to fox news youtube page and catch our hottest interviews and most compelling analysis you will not get it anywhere else

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Published: Thu Aug 05 2021

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