Jordan & Keown BLAST Liverpool Manager Jurgen Klopp For Vowing To Never Watch TNT Sports Again! 🔥😡

as we were saying Liverpool of course um very few games now left um under the guidance of Jurgen klopp still still seems weird saying that I have to say but klopp goes at the end of the season we've known it for some time and this weekend that it is a game against Tottenham at anfield how are they doing that one well a very short time ago uh leading up to this game you're going face the media and get into a variety of different topics not least the broadcasters I watched a lot of football all over the world in Premier League is the best league in the world so it's not overrated the players are overworked easier as that I had the discussion only the other day with with the colleagues my favorite TV channel which I definitely will never watch again TNT and said there it's always it's always a conversation I have is always saying that um yeah but they pay they pay you they pay the the the they give money to football it's not like that I really don't want to see it like that it's exactly the other way around football pays them because if he I mean they broadcast it they they deliv it but it's not that TNT is not doing extremely well or sky or whoever is doing extremely well they can pay all of you and stuff like this so they have all it's all fine you have to become a partner of footballers a football again and not just the squeezer so that's it that's a little advice from an old man on the way out they dare to give the Thursday Sunday which not to change because we are still in Europe Thursday Sunday Wednesday Saturday 12:30 is is a crime I was actually waiting for Amnesty International to go to to to to to them it's a crime did I hear him say there um Liverpool played Tottenham at 4:30 on Sunday plenty of recovery time Simon uh on other occasions more recently we had van dijk um saying oh gez we've got to play West Ham at their place on Saturday at 12:30 is that just not part of the gig is that just not what comes of being in the top flight at a top club yes it is he's also right joggen that there you know the broadcasters don't do it from a charitable point of view they do it because in terms of when the argument is Advanced that you know you get a huge amount of money if it's Advanced by a broadcaster then a broadcaster well yes so do you you charge a huge amount of subscription you charge an huge advertising role so with that in mind don't be giving me a lecture about my resistance to your scheduling because I have my reasons for it and you have yours about your economic model and that's where I agree with youen the flip side of it is it's unarguable that without the broadcasters and their desires for football the beneficiaries of the predominant beneficial of is it being the players and the managers and the Agents would not be in the position that they're in econom ically if they don't if they don't think that's important and they don't acknowledge that then that's fine do you think that's important Simon do you think that's recognized enough well I think unfortunately if it becomes the norm you if there's biscuits in the cupboard you're not grateful for biscuits anymore are you you take them as a given um and so with that in mind if you're used to being on a significant salary it's the nature of the Beast it's the industry that you're in you seek you forget the reality of how wonderfully well looked after you are how wonderful your opportunity is and then of course you then say well don't make it all about money well well okay well then you started it you made it all about money because you've taken all the money out of the room so if you don't want to make it all about money let's have a little relook at the squad capping idea let's have a look at oh hang on PFA up they come can't have any of that because we can't have players have their wages capped I'm not making this a player versus establishment argument we are in a situation where the broadcasters let us be clear in 1985 all way through to 1991 football was bankrupt the stadiums were falling apart players were not on great money and there wasn't a league that dominated World football and the reasons why there is is because Sky rocked into town now ITV that was other people's choice like David Dean and people that had that vision and Greg Dyke sky and with that came the money they didn't do it charitably they didn't do it because they were philanthropic they did it because they built their empire around it the the argument is that R Murdo bet the kitchen sink on the first deal but it's turned out to be a huge valuable thing for sky right it's a fan PCT it goes with a territory the broadcasters want their pound of Flesh this is one of the seven deadly sins you wanted this return from football you've got this enormous rewards tragically you've got to get on with it and not because I work for them but sky with a Trailblazers and I know the people who were involved the late great Vic wling Sam Chism Andy Melvin it's B BT and TNT have tried to work with the clubs haven't they cuz the the original beef was for when you came back from a Champions League game he didn't want the 1230 match so TNT have changed all of that so they don't do that now they try to work with him but still it's a hobby horse isn't it but it's your hobby horse too because you also believe and I'm not attacking you for the purpose of this conversation you also believe that there is not enough player welfare yeah consideration to player welfare and you bristle at the argument that he put forward which is well you get so well remunerated that really you should get on with it and there is there is this conundrum because they are that the economics of football are such a strange phenomenon and players are being paid so remarkably well now that it comes with a consequence and that consequence is the people that are paying you the broadcasters want their pound of Flesh and you're not going to give an inch on your salary package what were they to do then T TNT this is a package that was available for that slot it wasn't them that was deciding the timings the premier Prague the Premier League in conjunction with the broadcasters would have said these are the various slots and that's why they tend to be you know the Amazon slots in Christmas were sold at a certain time in a whole fiction and probably jgen would would B at this but Liverpool have had time to kill this week Martin they walked off the pitch at the London Stadium in the middle of last Saturday afternoon but they're not the early game and they don't play until Sunday no and they're not the early game but still on his way out he wants to doesn't he it's it's a he be saying it if he wasn't on his way out well he's been saying it since he arrived here he's been unhappy for long ol walked straight into the FA Cup semi-final press conference and started straight away about player welfare and I and having been in the industry so I've been polluted by the pracy and the the arrogance and the institutionalized thinking so I'm not just some guy working outside the industry going look at these highly paid footballers I've been in that space and got carried away of it as well but I cannot not say they don't know they're born they don't know they're born I never like to compare it to a man digging the ditch on the side of the road because is a different industry but they do not know they're born what they consider to be hard work and what they consider to be something that's jeopardizing their livelihood or their future or their well-being Bears no significance to 99% of what the rest of the world has to endure and I think it's something that people inside football need to grow grow up and have a little bit more of a look at themselves and a word with themselves about the opportunity they've got you're going to present that argument we don't we can't we can't discuss it can we because you cannot compare nurses doctors all these you know people in the not working it's hard to argue against is it not it's hard to argue against well he presents that argument but what we're doing we're trying to do we're trying to protect what we have don't we we're try we are the players want to play they're not saying they don't want to play it's what time they want to play and when they play that's Pep's argument was that that weekend of the FA Cup that you know that why were they playing on the Saturday maybe could have played on the Sunday because they were the only team that represented the England or our league in the midweek Liverpool will be Super Fresh this week because they played last month well as everybody did but they're now playing of course on Sunday against Tottenham at 4:30 some of the messages to be honest honestly I cannot pass them over without reading a few out and I'm going to pick one Martin Keon I don't think you'll like this Martin but off the back of jurgen's comments uh and a bit of a blast at the broadcasters for different kickoff times Etc no nameing this I'm a postman I work 60 hours a week over six days with severe arthri as my ankle modest wage I'm 38 I'll probably have to work till I'm 68 I can't afford a holiday from my family boohoo Jurgen don't let the door hit you in the way out when you leave I mean this is a reaction that you're going to get Martin isn't it from people out there and Simon's argument holds water footballers are massively well renumerated there is no argument well this is the thing and and I suppose the downside for the player if there is one is you know is when he plays the games and how many he's playing and how many competitions are they going to commit to the Champions League now grows even bigger again next season I know that's the top end um so you know there's always that argument the man in the street the guy who does the national service that you know works for you is in the army or fighting the guys you were with last night so it's not an argument it's just you know obviously they're just trying to create a timetable and that's going to require time to sit down to work through and make sure that everybody is there Jim in the past the players aren't at the table to discuss it and when you hear pep and people screaming to be heard I think we should be listening the challenge is I and I I agree to some extent they don't want to be heard what they want to be they want to tell you what they don't want to do the PFA the managers the players they want to tell you what they don't want to do and they don't want to have this and they don't want to have that and the challenge is is that you have danced with the devil you want these broadcasters you want these returns you want these successes you want to pay for these big clubs and with that comes extra games extra broadcast commitments extra obligations and it can't just be a one way and I know the argument and I do hear the argument eventually it might land in a quality issue well it hasn't no and it doesn't appear to be no about control is it Martin it's very hard to argue with this you're Chris up the tune Newcastle fan this is by far the best show in the radio guys keep it up Chris thanks for that player welfare needs to be taken into context now Marcus rashford he says earns the same in a week that he'll make in eight years he's calculated he says but we all just go on with it because we have to there's no other way there's no other way I mean samim what I would ask you is that when you were at the top of the house at Palace were you locking horns a lot with broadcasters and now that you're out of that position in life you see more of what the broadcasters are trying to achieve well yes and no I mean clearly with a club of the scale of Crystal Palace you're not going to lock horns in the way that a club like Liverpool or Arsenal or or Manchester United are going to lock horns I locked horns with the broadcasters for different reasons because I also like yogan klopp felt that the opportunity was as much to broadcasters as it was footballs so I didn't like the notion that you know certain broadcasters and people within the broadcas operation we've made this industry well yes but you didn't do it through love you did it because it's done a massive Financial return for you and in Rupert Murdoch's in position has built Sky football built sky and Sky built football and the two together have made an irresistible proposition others have followed in behind like um BT Sport TNT and TNT and so on on so forth but in so far as I look at it through this but I I try desperately to be fair and sometimes I miss the Mark I understand Martin's Point of View about the necessity to look after the athletes because at the end of the day if you don't it'll depreciate the product but you have created this framework where the whole industry is about money you complain about the reality of what ownership models are they're all about money we're taking away from the culture of football but everything is about money even down to the fact that players wages on a weekly basis are the staple diet of conversation and the benefits of being a footballer today a top footballer certainly in the top two divisions in this country are absolutely jawdropping look at these players look at them look at I mean I without going into people's financial affairs I sat across the table with John Terry thinking I built a business that employed thousands of people and probably you've done as economically well I made 100 million quid I'm looking at you across the table think you probably made the same and you've looked after yourself and being a footballer there's no discredit to John Terry and now I'm not there's no Envy I'm just talking about the reality of what this industry is affording people and the opportunities for the next generation of footballers if we want a a black footballer to own a football club now the next generation of footballers because once upon a time I know I'm going off on a tangent Once Upon a Time ethnicities opportunities were excluded by not being at the top table or mixing that particular company there now the means for footballers to buy football clubs if they want so it's a cash cow isn't it but let's not kill let's not kill the Golden Goose in all of this but but which which is the Players I do feel the broadcasters are trying to create a relationship here now it's it's about a partnership but they won't give certainly know that's happening at but the broadcasters the only argument the Jurgen Club can have with the broadcasters is is and I do see it is this constant 12:30 slot and it does seem to me that statistics bear out they've had it more often than not and that may well come because it's such an alluring proposition that the broadcasters that buy those slots want Liverpool because Liverpool provide entertainment in it and and you're the victim of your own success but my biggest concern is sitting across the table from people with a sense of entitlement and that's what happens when you pay people economic wages that are so significant they get a sense of entitlement is they're not interested in a solution they're interested in telling you what they don't want to do and that's not a solution that's not I don't want to play these games okay well on the back of that football could potentially lose 20% of his Revenue not interested I want that yeah but I don't want that 100 million eh that was all right wasn't it once upon a time when 100 million was a few quid still is Jim White and Simon Jordan Monday to Friday mornings from 10: on a.m. on dab via the talk sport app and on your smart speaker talk sport

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Length: 14min 22sec (862 seconds)

Published: Fri May 03 2024