Joe: This is not helping those of us who want to fight fascism in America

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NO -- THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE AND DIDN'T WANT TO DO THIS PEACEFULLY. >> STEVE, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. YOU ASKED WHAT PARENTS WERE SAYING ABOUT THIS. FOR PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN ARE -- AND THEY ARE CHILDREN, BY THE WAY. THERE ARE SOME ADULTS. I SAY THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE KIDS, OBVIOUSLY, OF COLLEGE AGE. I JUST -- OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE DISTRESSED. I'M SURE MANY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY. I CERTAINLY HOPE THE STUDENTS GOT OUT AND ARE DOING IT PEACEFULLY RIGHT NOW. RICHARD, THIS IS -- I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS A COUPLE DAYS AGO. MAYBE I WASN'T ELOQUENT ENOUGH. I CAN TELL YOU MY FAMILY -- I'M NOT SAYING THE VIETNAM WAR WAS A JUST WAR. IT WAS NOT A JUST WAR. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THE RIOTS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES, THE RIOTS AT THE CHICAGO CONVENTION IN '68, ALL THOSE THINGS MOVED MY FAMILY FROM BEING DEMOCRATS THEIR ENTIRE LIFE TO BEING REPUBLICANS. I REMEMBER. I WAS YOUNG. I REMEMBER MY PARENTS ASKING, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY? OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE RAISED IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION, IN RURAL GEORGIA, KIND OF HARD FOR THEM TO HEAR RICH KIDS ON CAMPUS OF HARVARD ARE TAKING OVER CAMPUSES AT COLUMBIA. BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE OFFENDED BY THIS, PLEASE, I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU. I DON'T WANT DONALD TRUMP TO GET ELECTED, ALL RIGHT? >> THERE YOU GO. >> I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU. IF YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO FIGURE THAT OUT, CHANGE TO ANOTHER CHANNEL. WE'RE SORTING THROUGH THIS AS A COUNTRY, AND THIS IS NOT HELPING. THIS IS NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA. THIS IS NOT HELPING THOSE OF US WHO WANT TO FIGHT FASCISM IN AMERICA. BUT, RICHARD, YOU REMEMBER '68. IT WAS A TIDAL WAVE. THERE IS A REASON THAT REAGAN WON WITH A LOT OF YOUNG VOTERS IN 1980. THERE IS A REASON THE REAGAN REVOLUTION TOOK PLACE. THE SEEDS WERE PLANTED IN 1968. AGAIN, WHEN I SAY THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE VIETNAM WAR WASN'T AN UNJUST WAR. IT WAS. I'M SAYING, THERE ARE WAYS, AS THE REV HAS PROVEN, AS HE PROVED, AS MARTIN LUTHER KING HAS PROVEN, OTHERS HAVE PROVEN, THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THIS THAT HELP THE CAUSE WITHOUT HURTING, WITHOUT AIDING THE WORST ELEMENTS IN AMERICAN POLITICS. >> COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. WHEN DID DEMOCRACIES CRUMBLE? WHEN THEY LOSE CONTROL OF CURRENCIES, INFLATION GETS OUT OF CONTROL, PEOPLE LOSE ALL THEIR SAVINGS. WE'VE SEEN THAT HISTORICALLY IN PLACES. AND SCENES LIKE THIS. IF YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE CHOICE, WELL, I MAY BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOME OF THE POLITICS OF SOME SIDES, BUT WE NEED PHYSICAL SAFETY, WE NEED ORDER, THIS IS SEEN AS A REAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. THIS IS, IN MANY WAYS, I THINK, SCHOOL AUTHORITIES WHO HAVE LOST CONTROL OF THEIR CAMPUSES. THEY DIDN'T SET CLEAR RULES. THEY WEREN'T PREPARED TO BACK THEM UP. NOW, YOU HAVE TO TAKE BACK THE CAMPUSES. THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE LOST THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> LET'S GO TO THE SPLIT SCREEN OF THE RIOTS GOING ON IN FLORIDA. OH, WAIT, THERE ARE NO RIOTS GOING ON AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT SAID, "WE DON'T RUN A DAY CARE CENTER HERE. IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST THIS, WE RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO PROTEST. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU BREAK THE LAW AND DESTROY BUILDINGS." >> RIGHT. FREE SPEECH IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE, AND IT IS NOT THE ONLY RIGHT ON A CAMPUS. THERE HAS GOT TO BE BALANCE AGAINST OTHER RIGHTS, OBLIGATIONS. ONE LAST NIGHT, THESE ARE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. THEY OUGHT TO BE THINKING, ONE, ABOUT THEIR FAILURE TO MAINTAIN ORDER AND PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF EVERYBODY. WHAT ABOUT ONE OTHER THING? HOW ABOUT EDUCATING? YOU SAID BEFORE, THIS ISN'T HELPING THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN GAZA. YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THE TEACHINGS HERE? AT LEAST IN VIETNAM, WE HAD SOME TEACH-INS IN '68. WHY ISN'T COLUMBIA, WHY AREN'T THESE PLACES SAYING, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE. NOT JUST, BY THE WAY, ABOUT THE POLICY FAILURES OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT. WHAT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PEACE PROCESS? WHAT ABOUT THE TIMES THE PALESTINIANS KICKED AWAY CHANCES AT PEACE? WHAT ABOUT THE NATURE OF HAMAS' RULE IN GAZA? THE GAYS FOR GAZA, HOW GOOD DO THEY THINK IT'D BE UNDER HAMAS? THIS IS A CHANCE TO HAVE TEACH-INS, GET PEOPLE SMARTER, MORE SOPHISTICATED, BALANCE TO WHAT IS GOING ON. THERE IS BLAME TO SPREAD AROUND. I DON'T SEE UNIVERSITIES STEPPING UP. >> THESE PROTESTERS ARE GOING TO HAND THE ELECTION TO DONALD TRUMP. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FASCISM AS A RESULT OF THESE PROTESTERS. JOE BIDEN, YOU NEED TO STEP UP RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT EXACTLY, THOUGH, IS HE SUPPOSED TO DO? I MEAN, THESE NEED TO BE -- >> CERTAINLY COME OUT. >> CALL IT OUT. >> FOR WHAT IT IS. >> CALL IT WHAT IT IS. >> WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. >> THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BREAKING THE LAW. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> PROTEST PEACEFULLY. LEARN ABOUT THE SITUATION. I'M TELLING YOU, I'LL JUST SAY FROM MY REPORTING, AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE STUDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED GET THEIR NEWS FROM TIKTOK. >> YEAH. >> THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN 2000 AT OSLO. THEY HAVE NO IDEA THE PALESTINIANS WERE OFFERED 97% OF THE WEST BANK, AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE COMPENSATED THE OTHER 3%. THEY HAVE NO IDEA THAT THERE WAS A RIGHT TO PASSAGE FROM GAZA OVER TO THE WEST BANK. THEY HAVE NO IDEA. THE DEAL THAT BILL CLINTON WAS ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER BETWEEN ISRAEL AND PALESTINE, THEN YASSER ARAFAT PASSED ON IT. WHY? I SAID IT IN REAL TIME, BECAUSE HE KNEW HAMAS WOULD KILL HIM. HE'D END UP JUST LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS. THEY HAVE NO IDEA. IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND JUST HOW DANGEROUS BENJAMIN NETANYAHU WAS TO THE PEACE PROCESS. >> AND -- >> THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND HOW HE HAD AN ALLIANCE WITH HAMAS, HE HAD AN ALLIANCE WITH HAMAS BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT HAMAS AND BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAD IN COMMON IS, THEY SAW PEACE. THEY SAW A
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 28,253
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Keywords: Joe Scarborough, Willie Geist, Morning Joe, Mika Brzezinski, MSNBC, MSNBC news, MSNBC live, MSNBC TV, news, breaking news, current events, US news, politics, politics news, political news, elections, morning joe full, morning joe live, morning joe today, UCLA, UCLA protest, Pro Palestine protests, Israel Hamas war
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Length: 6min 54sec (414 seconds)
Published: Thu May 02 2024
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