FROM WHERE DEFENDANT TRUMP WAS SITTING IN COURT AND AN ARROW MADE HIS CASE. OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS WE'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT. WE'VE HEARD YOU CALL HIM A FRAUD, A CON ARTIST. HE IS A NEW YORKER LIKE YOU AND YOU HAVE WATCHED THIS RANDOM BS FOR DECADES AND DESPITE THAT HE BECAME PRESIDENT. NOW WE ARE WATCHING HIM 10 BLOCKS FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW, SITTING IN A COURTROOM AS A CRIMINAL DEFENDANT. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. >> I THINK HOW ABSURD IT IS AND THIS COULD BE THE CASE IT COULD BE IT FOR HIM. IT IS THE LEAST IMPORTANT IN MANY WAYS AND YET IT IS THE ONE THAT COULD BE TRIED AND FINISHED. IN WELL ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THAT IN. >> DOES IT GIVE YOU SOME SENSE, NOT OF JOY, BUT OF RELIEF AT LEAST THAT HE IS POTENTIALLY FACING SOME CONSEQUENCES, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID BEFORE, THIS GUY IS A CON ARTIST AND HE HAS GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT FOR YEARS. >> HE IS MORE THAN THAT TO ME. HE IS SICK. REALLY, GENUINELY A SICK PERSON THAT SOMEHOW HAS BEEN ALLOWED INTO OUR SYSTEM. AND I AM TIRED OF CALLING HIM NAMES. HE JUST CAN'T BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. >> YOU HAVE PLAYED A LOT OF BAD GUYS. WOULD YOU EVER PLAY DONALD TRUMP? >> NEVER. THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT HIM, THERE IS NOT ONE REDEEMING THING THAT I CAN SEE, EVER, EVER. IT IS FUNNY. I WAS JUST THINKING THAT HE ACTUALLY BECAME PRESIDENT. HE COULD HAVE DONE GOOD THINGS. INSTEAD HE HAD TO DO IT ALL WRONG AND AS WE KNOW, SO NARCISSISTIC AND SELF-CENTERED. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE WHO SAY I DON'T LIKE THE GUY, BUT I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM. WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO THEM? >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTAND HOW DANGEROUS IT WILL BE IF HE EVER BECOMES PRESIDENT. I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND. HISTORICALLY, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, EVEN IN GERMANY, THEY HAD IT WITH HITLER. DON'T TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY. HE LOOKS LIKE A CLOWN AND ACTS LIKE A CLOWN. THESE GUYS LOOK LIKE CLOWNS AND SOMEHOW THAT ELEMENT OF SOCIETY IDENTIFIES IN SOME WAYS WITH HIM, BUT IT WOULD BE CHAOS BEYOND OUR IMAGINATION. THERE IS NO MYSTERY. HE IS RIGHT OUT FRONT AND WHAT HE SAYS IS WHAT IT WILL BE IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT. >> DO YOU THINK OUR DEMOCRACY IS AT RISK IN THIS ELECTION? >> I THINK THAT IT IS. I ALWAYS KEEP SAYING, DEMOCRACY IS GREAT, OF COURSE, BUT DEMOCRACY PEOPLE TAKE FOR GRANTED. IT IS A WORD SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND. IT IS ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG. THE GUY IS A MONSTER AND BEYOND WRONG. IT IS ALMOST LIKE HE WANTS TO DO THE MOST HORRIBLE THINGS HE CAN THINK OF IN ORDER TO GET A RISE OUT OF US. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT HE HAS BEEN DOING IT AND DOING IT AND IT IS [ BLEEP ] SCARY. EXCUSE MY FRENCH. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE ARTS IF HE WERE TO BECOME PRESIDENT? HE ALREADY SAID HE WANTS TO GO AFTER HIS ENEMIES, WANTS TO GO AFTER JOURNALISTS AND THE NEWS MEDIA. WHAT ABOUT YOUR INDUSTRY? >> THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS HE WILL GO AFTER THESE THINGS IMPULSIVELY AND HE WILL BE STOPPED. THERE WILL BE PUSHBACK, A LOT OF IT, AND AS MUCH PUSHBACK AS NEEDED IN THE STREETS. CONFLICT, THAT COULD HAPPEN. CIVIL STRIFE BECAUSE -- BUT HE WILL TRY IT. >> YOU HAVE NO UPSIDE IN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. IN SPEAKING OUT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF A TARGET. THE INTERVIEW WILL AIR AND HE WILL IMMEDIATELY FIND A REASON TO TALK BAD ABOUT YOU IN PUBLIC, BUT YOU ARE CHOOSING TO USE YOUR PLATFORM TO DO SO. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO OTHER CELEBRITIES WHO DON'T WANT TO ALIENATE PART OF THEIR FAN BASE, DON'T WANT TO STEP IN HARMS WAY, BUT THEY HAVE SIMILAR MEGAPHONES THAT YOU DO? >> YOU KNOW, THE IDEA, TO BE BULLIED AT MY AGE BY SOMEONE LIKE THIS, IT IS NOT HAPPENING. >>> YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF IN AUATION THAT IS SO TERRIFYING. WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE FROM EASTERN EUROPE. THE JEWS FROM OTHER THAN PARTS OF EASTERN EUROPE. FROM WESTERN EUROPE COMING OVER. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN FRANCE. AND WITH THE NAZIS AND SO ON. AND YOU COME OVER, AND WHEN I WAS A KID, THEY WOULD SAY YOU DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE THIS COUNTRY. YOU DON'T REALLY. WELL, WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. IMAGINE WHAT THOSE PEOPLE WENT THROUGH. I'M JUST STARTING TO SEE IT. AS A KID, HITLER, A NIGHTMARE. THAT NEVER WOULD HAPPEN. BUT NOW I SEE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE. WITH THOSE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE FROM NAZI GERMANY AND EASTERN EUROPE. >> DO YOU THINK JOE BIDEN IS THE RIGHT GUY? >> WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. AND I THINK HE IS THE RIGHT GUY. HE IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. AND I SAY THAT IN A VERY POSITIVE GOOD WAY. >> WHAT WOULD BE YOUR MESSAGE TO PRESIDENT BIDEN? >> GO AT THEM HARD. AND EVERY CHANCE YOU GET, GO AT THEM. GO AT HIM. PEOPLE, THEY TAKE NOTICE OF THAT STUFF. HE IS NOT AFRAID. HE IS DOING WHAT HE SHOULD DO. I SAY GO AT THEM. A BULLY, YOU PUNCH IN THE FACE. HE IS NOT JUST A BULLY. HE IS A STUPID BULLY. >> YOU WARNED AMERICA ABOUT WHO DONALD TRUMP WAS IN 2016. NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE LISTENED. DO YOU THINK THEY WILL LISTEN NOW? YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE YOU KNEW CHANGING ALL OF A SUDDEN, GOING THAT SIDE. FOR SELF-PRESERVATION. BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT OR THEY ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES OR WHATEVER. BUT THEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS. THEY ARE JUST NOT OPPOSING IT. THAT IS EVEN MORE SCARY. THERE HAS TO BE A TIME WHEN YOU SAY THAT'S IT. NO, WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN. AND THIS IS THE TIME IN THE COUNTRY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. >> THIS MOMENT IS ABOUT DECENCY AND DEMOCRACY? >>
