Joe Rogan - What Makes Someone a Bad Person?

I didn't do you live in Georgia no I live here okay okay Georgia somebody told you whisper it like no one's listening yeah well I have a secret of friendship with Jim God who's one of the few people who makes me really laugh even though you know most secret anymore most of the world hates Jim God why do they hate Jim goat because he raised he's very transgressive in-your-face pieces but when he writes about his brother he kills me is some of the most touching stuff I've ever read in my life about his brother's death so you know the whole world I think is so fooled and that they think that Jim goat is a bad person and they think that maybe I'm a good person when it's just exactly the opposite how are you a bad person oh let's not even go down that road I already told on Cheryl Strayed killing that bird come on do I got to do more that's not being a bad person that's a person who's appreciative of a dark moment that doesn't make you a bad person no I'm a bad person are you really give me an example you know and this is awkward but this is another one of those cognitive reframing honesty things is I took care of my mother while she was dying of lung cancer and even while I was taking care of her and she was lapsing in and out of consciousness in her home there was a little part of me that felt this glee that thought I will never have to worry about mom again I will never have to worry about whether mom is offended by my work I will never have to worry about mom falling down the stairs and breaking her leg that this enormous concern in my life will be resolved and it's gonna be at the cost of losing someone I love you know so much but the benefit is that this huge burden of responsibility is going to be lifted and so there was this kind of secret Glee thinking you I'm gonna I'm gonna have some freedom here that I never imagined yeah Norah Efrain touches on that in her work when she talks about her mother's death and I think it's just a it's an it's an honest thing but it's not a thing that makes you look very good I don't think that makes you a bad person I think that that makes you a person who's honest about thoughts that are very uncomfortable that that is just something that people think I think all the time if they're dealing with someone who's completely incapacitated and they have to care for them 24/7 but they don't express it it's just it's just a a reality of the burden of someone who's really sick are really dying is it there's there's no getting around it I don't think it's about that's not a good example I need you I need a example why you're a bad person maybe you're just really self-critical or aware of things that other people could take out of context of the the totality of your life and just use it as an example put it in quotes and use it as an example of you being a bad person you know another thing is I'm really really conflicted about the nature of my creativity this idea that in journalism school that they call the theory seduced and betray that when you go into an interview situation your goal is to gain the trust of that person and to get them to reveal something very intimate that you're gonna betray by revealing to the public so you just you're basically going in there to to charm them and then to hurt them and and so much of my creative process is that way because for example the guts story mm-hmm the story in which the guy puts the carrot up his butt that was my best friend at the time in like late 20s and he got fantastically drunk and he told me that carrot story and I honestly believe he had never told anybody the carrot story and I I kept that story in my mind for you know 10 15 almost probably 20 years until I found a way to put it with three similar stories and make a larger piece out of it and the first time I read that story I hadn't seen him in maybe a couple years this friend and I look across this big auditorium and there he is and I'm telling his carrot story in front of hundreds and hundreds of people and the look on his face he's just stricken and he hasn't talked to me since and this is even even did you use his name no then [ __ ] him no but what's wrong with that people still feel betrayed and I get over it you need to hang out with more comedians refused a comic you'd be laughing well you know David Sedaris has told me he said his family is very reluctant to share their lives with him anymore because he's kind of made them involuntary public figures and they have to deal with the fallout yes from these stories about them and really only his brother and his sister Amy have kind of been able to spin this in a good way but it alienates a lot of people oh for sure well especially if you use their actual name or people know the origin of the actual story yeah yeah but that's you're not a bad person sorry sorry to break it to you think you're a bad person those are the only examples you're not convinced no no I'm just not revealing the worst okay of course do you think that you have to have some sort of embracing of these dark thoughts to create the way you create I mean you're creating these characters that go down some horrible roads both mentally and in reality in your work and it's amazing stuff but to cultivate that don't you think you have to be kind of in touch with those thoughts of your own to kind of in touch with this you know this thing where you're watching your mom die and you you are going to be relieved of a burden and you don't want to tell anybody that you're kind of looking forward to that a little bit even though you love your mom dearly they said that's a natural thing that people don't want to discuss but absolutely exists it's the elephant in the room and that's kind of like how Comedy Works or anything where you're stating this unstated thing you're creating this enormous relief my classic example when I teach I ask my students I say so so what do you call a black man that flies a plane a pilot you [ __ ] racist you're creating this tension right they don't want you to say what they think they're gonna say they don't want to hate you they like you right and they don't want you to say something hateful and awful yeah and then you turn it around you put it on them and so in a way you know I always think that's the the soul of comedy is to create this this tension that you relieve as quickly as possible and the relief occurs as laughter I was having dinner with a good friend of mine his wife and a buddy of mine and my friend's friend and his wife and funtime the whole night everybody's laughing and joking and or have a dinner and having a couple of drinks and joking around talking about things and I forget what led to him saying this but we were talking about just unfortunate scenarios and you know people that just their life is not going the way they'd like it to go and things going back and out of nowhere the guy goes well it's like this my daughter has she had a baby with a black man and where we were both like looking at him like where is this going and then he goes and you know I just think it's incredibly selfish to bring that kid into the world and this kid doesn't have an identity they're not black and the not white and they don't they're not gonna have an identity they're not gonna have a group to belong to and my friends jaws dropped my huh no the guys spent on that night and my drop and I looked at my other friend who was with me who didn't know any of these other people and everyone's like what the [ __ ] and then a couple of us get up and go to the bathroom and I turn to my friend and I said let's get the [ __ ] out of here and we just left and I texted my friend I go to much racism how'd it go and we just left and but it was so weird it's like this guy was holding into this and he's like you know what I can trust these people with some racist [ __ ] I can trust them and it didn't work and he knew it didn't work he knew it went over the world like a lead balloon he knew it he could feel it because everybody was like what like wait a minute your daughter's in love with a man who's black they have a child together and you think it's incredibly selfish to bring that kid in the world like what the [ __ ] I wish I could remember what the [ __ ] we were talking about before then but what we're talking about before them was like drug addicts or people [ __ ] up or you know people were addicted to gambling or something you know people whose lives were in chaos and then he brings up his daughter having a baby with a guy was the wrong amount of melanin skin whose ancestors came from the wrong part of the world for him it was weird man it was we it was weird also to see him recognize I did funny you know you threw out a story I throw out a story I had a hired car from Philadelphia to New York once on tour and as we're going past Liberty Hall in Philadelphia this this great guy with a Philly accent driving the car he points at Liberty Hall and he says that building has stood for you know 300 years I bet you can't tell me why and I just looked and I said because the bricks were late in Flemish bond I think that's probably it where the the brick bricks are offset in such a way that they they bond in the center called Flemish bond any guys so silent nobody's ever answered the question and his father was a bricklayer and he was so proud and he goes you're right nobody's ever said Flemish bond that's why it still stands and we were best friends and just talking like crazy all the way into Manhattan we get into Manhattan there's two guys walking down the street the guy goes oh Christ I hate coming to New York ah the [ __ ] and I said well you know I'm married to a man and [ __ ] is pretty much my middle name [Laughter] three juggling of everything that the guy who knew Flemish bond was also one of them and it was one of those wonderful kind of icky but necessary moments and you know they're horrible but you know things are better afterwards you must have loved that moment though you know it was a horrible moment because I felt like I was throwing away any kind of chatty conversational relationship I had with this guy mmm seemed like just salt of the earth great funny guy and it was just kind of going out on a limb and saying okay you know he's gonna hate my guts after this when I was a little kid we lived in San Francisco from age 7 to 11 and then moved to Florida which is the polar opposite of San Francisco and I I really I don't know if I'd ever heard someone used the word [ __ ] before but I'd never seen an adult upset about gay people before and then my friend kandi Candido was his name his dad was Cuban they were Cuban and dad's slams a newspaper on the on the table I was 11 and he's like can't believe they're letting these [ __ ] get married he was just so angry and I remember stopping and thinking like here here's a man this guy's a man he's a grown man he's a grown up but yet he's he's got this infant idea of what a person should be like they gotta fall into this category that category he's got it locked into his head he's a [ __ ] baby but he's a man and he's my friend's dad this guy sick this guy made it to 35 years old or whatever the [ __ ] he was and this is his this is his operating system that he's using to navigate his way through life I remember it being an important moment for me because I realized like just because someone's older doesn't mean they learned anything you know and that people are capable of success in life you know you could become married you can have children you get a house you get a good job you drive a car the whole thing you got it all you've got a checkbook you got a [ __ ] you're you're you're operating it's moving you're successful it's happening and yet you still have these stupid ideas you know but I think there's there's a benefit to the expression of the stupid idea not that if they couldn't be challenged but that at least when we're aware that it's there yeah and that you know we know that this thing is not just kind of festering and that there's a way of kind of not fixing this person but at least we know where they're coming from yeah you know it oh another shooting myself in the career foot thing I don't think you've done it once the whole show okay here it goes I read the daily stormer Andrew Anglin cracks me up who is that he is the completely transgressive guy who really loves Fight Club oh well writes for The Daily stormer I think he is the daily stormer and he writes the most atrocious insensitive brutal things but they are they're so shocking and so transgressive that that sometimes I laugh just out of the shock you know the old classic joke how do you get a nun pregnant you [ __ ] her you know there's a shock value there that that just sort of jars me and makes me laugh sometimes that joke would have worked better if you hadn't told the black pilot joke first oh well the problem is like people become it you know you know what's coming yeah but but sometimes you know I I want to go into a world where people are not watching their language so closely mmm and and I see people kind of vent the worst of themselves right and I'm not kind of endorsing it but I feel a little less reactive to abuse Scientologists has happened this exercise called bull baiting where they take you into a room and people surround you and they call you every horrible thing and then they they nitpick Horrell every aspect of your appearance or your your character who you are and they attack you on every level and they do this for long long periods of time and they do this day after day until you are completely not reactionary to that kind of verbal abuse you can you can put it over there you can accept the fact that it's somebody else's statement somebody else's opinion observation that it's not true and you can be with that and so in a way when I go into these sites that are so patently offensive and in deliberately you know aggressively offensive I feel like in a way they're thickening my skin that I'm not quite such a delicate little reactive thing afterwards do you worry about someone looking through your search results oh you're far worse things than that [Laughter]

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Length: 17min 42sec (1062 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 22 2018