Joe Rogan - Tom Segura's "R Word" Controversy

so Tommy buns yep tell me about the controversy surrounding your use of the r-word in your last special oh yeah it was quite that that was that was bizarre it was a lot man well it was also what I found interesting about it was people were lying about the bit and they were doing it in articles and they were doing it in email campaigns they were lying about the content of the bit yeah they were changing what you were saying in the bit and they had to be doing it on purpose they definitely didn't listen to the bit yeah and I think it took me a while to figure out what was what really was happening was that someone someone's agenda or idea of what they want to accomplish is to highlight a campaign to eradicate saying a word and then they had a channel to pursue by having a comedy bit that did it that they could be like right let's let's go after it like this yeah but it didn't they didn't go I mean you know basically what his funny thing is that like that joke was something that I worked back where I I did that bit backwards in other words I had the end piece of the bit was out what I was doing by itself which was a story about I saw I witnessed a fight in Philly of a white guy and a black guy in a park and the white dude was you know screamin n-bombs and it was it was nuts so I would tell that story and then I would I worked backwards into getting into the story because I was trying to figure out like if something that funny happens or some I want to tell a story it's always better to figure out why are you telling the story rather than just to be like here's a story right so I told the the story of like the the fight in the park and then I worked into like I figured out right before I have to talk about racial slurs and how you know most racial slurs are not acceptable and then I figured out they were like unless they're like white racial slurs are totally acceptable like how people mix and Krauts and frogs pollux Guinea wops like this whole list of that and then I worked before that of just the saying that was like why should talk about words that you can't say that it kind of changed over time right so it was just like one of those jokes is like oh it's helping me get into the bit you know so I I started the bit by saying you can't say [ __ ] anymore does that that's the first line of the of the entire bit yeah ended up being like eight or ten minutes long and then people would say to me like to start when I started getting mail about it they're like you know you can't say [ __ ] and I go that's the line that I say like yeah that's the line in the joke but they didn't hear the bet I just heard that you were doing a bit about the word [ __ ] once it blew up like once it got to a huge amount of like when it was an organised orchestrated campaign you're right there was people messaging me that would say I heard you want to kill all children with Down's nobody what and I where did you see that Facebook somewhere said someone said it because the messages I started to get and how many people at the height of it signed this petition to get you like kicked off in that voice over a hundred thousand yeah but here's the thing here's what I mean I I don't want to portray myself as a victim or anything right like I I did a bit I can handle people not liking it or liking it I mean a lot of people message me that they were into it and I just didn't share those because you don't wanna be like right here's someone that said they liked it you know and people and people even people with children and siblings and uh but now should message me you know I just didn't post those messages but I don't know I I'm not the victim in this whole thing at all I learned I feel like I learned that when people are super upset about something you have to let them just be upset and and be outraged if they want to be outraged you know that's your right it of course it's uncomfortable to me that you can't get out in front and be like hey you're you're misrepresenting it right because people like even in the campaign language it said like we want this bit taken out of the of the joke we want the trailer for the special removed and I was like why and then I realized that the trailer has a joke that they're confusing with the joke where I say [ __ ] like they're they think the two are related what's the one on the trailer the one in the trailer is I say like some something's funny disabilities are not funny but some are and it's a whole bit about obscure things like a foreign accent syndrome and oh I'm sorry just hit on the head and then they start speak French accent so that was the setup to that bit right and they were but they were saying they were basically making it where that setup is about downs or something do I mean like that but they happen 40 minutes apart one has nothing to do with the other but by not watching it by just watching the trailer they're going Oh see this is like how he's making fun of us right yeah well you shouldn't even have a point where you could say some disabilities are funny right you can't do that right yeah that's what that's what I was told it's it's what it is is its new power that people have to complain I mean fpp always complained but they haven't had the instantaneous access to complaining right and then you can get and here's the thing I learned about kind of like mob mentality - it was like kind of fascinating - why I mean I was in it so it's different once I could step back I realized that once you got signed a certain message out you know people would read the thing that says this guy hates people with Down's and I'm like what and that's not a hard thing to get behind oh yeah so then people would just they would sign it and I would also get messages that said things like I didn't know evil like you existed in this world you know things like that and I'd be like what and you're Isis I mean like really crazy stuff man and I didn't engage nearly you know the the amount of people that that would contact me but I did engage a few I did like go back and forth one guy he was like he opened he's like you [ __ ] [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] I would stab you if I saw you on the street and I go what's this all about that was my like my opening thing to him he was like I heard you you want to kill like everybody with Down syndrome and I'm like what are you talking about man and then we had a back-and-forth about about the bid I'm like you should go watch it you know just watch it and then get back to me and then you write from there he was like yeah yeah yeah sorry the way I spoke earlier didn't [ __ ] seriously stab me yeah you saw me would have killed me you'd be in jail forever maybe like defendant please rise yeah why'd you stab my sister girl I didn't see the bit I didn't watch anyway then somebody told me it was but it's saying terrible things about in and now and in there and people's defense who got upset some people watched it and they're like I saw it and I think it's horrible and I think you know I'm like okay you know yeah but there's some people that if you just say the word say the word [ __ ] like that's it it's all it's over you can't do that it's like so many other words yeah but it's gotten to the point where you don't even say the word [ __ ] like just saying it it's like holy [ __ ] what are you doing yeah we'll say the n-word instead of it right and you're not even calling someone yet but it's just acknowledging it that that's a real word it's like a forbidden thing well part of that this you know campaign is to refer to it as the r-word like yeah say it right you should never say it I mean we heard man yeah I mean you know people people were some people were very very upset about it and you know I I get why someone could be upset about it it's not like I go like I don't even understand how you could be upset I mean the natural thing I think if you're a comic is you you want to walk someone through the joke but what you realize later is like somebody who's at who's who's advocating to stop saying a word it doesn't care the details of the joke I mean the joke here's the other thing that sucks about reading people would read transcripts it's like transcripts have no intent tone you know if you just read people's like I know we've talked about what you're closing on now which will probably close out your special if you just type that out and give us the ones they'd be like you are awesome like you're horrible man but it's in it's a couple things it's like it's in the context of a comedy show yes where there's an unspoken agreement but I mean performer and audience it's the intent like what how did you intend this bit to go right tone I mean is it said satirically ironically get that bit what I'm doing in the bit is is basically lamenting but accepting that words are changing right like that's the tone of it yeah the tone of it is I'm going like can't stay retired anymore that [ __ ] sucks but I'm also like all right you know I mean like you're saying okay yeah I'm going to it and I make an example like one thing that people got really upset about was like I said at the end of this bit of the [ __ ] part I say like you got now you got to be like that your idea has an extra 21st chromosome if you ask me right and then the next part the very next line that they would cut out when people were sharing this thing is I go like not the same meaning that the example is a purposely bad example right the joke is that if you were to say 21st chromosome it's absurd doesn't work like I don't you know it wouldn't makes there it but people would attack me and go like you're telling people to start saying that I'm like no I'm sharing that it's a bad idea I saw someone getting mad at someone calling someone stupid because they were saying that's ablest do you know what ablest is ablest oh yeah because you have your of sound you're able yeah you're able to do it yeah yeah like if you are mocking someone who's diminished mentally oh you [ __ ] idiot that's ablest yeah sure which is crazy yeah you're able-bodied their brain doesn't work so good yeah an ableist if you call them stupid I mean it's gonna get to the point where if you give up certain words I mean if we keep going like this I get to the point where we're just gonna have a very hard time communicating effectively I totally agree I mean there's I don't know there's there's and here's the thing that it is an endless cycle yeah I mean we just don't have that next unacceptable word right you know like everybody knows I think a lot of people that as far as somebody who's doesn't have is developmentally disabled [ __ ] was kind of the moat the latest term that was once acceptable it's clearly not now I mean that is kind of the point but before that you know [ __ ] was a medical term was it yeah [ __ ] idiot was with these two call down syndrome children that was like hundred years ago on the birth certificate right but I'm saying you know people who are saying you know just to stop saying we took they're not wrong that you know but there is also another word down the pipeline right there's something else is coming yeah that's gonna be a medical word or term and then that'll be used to insult people but that's the way people use language like once we identify this is the word people use to label someone with a developmental disability people in the slang will grow from that yeah people will start using that well what's interesting to me is that when we're talking about words you're not going to change the way people think so words are supposed to convey intent yes supposed to be sounds that we all agree mean a certain thing and the more depth the more access to words you have the more you can sort of flavor your conversation so I understand what you're saying like if you're saying this guy I kind of get it but you feel like this [ __ ] guy yeah I'm like well Tommy's really mad yeah you know I mean that and to take that out yeah it's like I don't know exists sometimes you take those things out when you're like on a television show or something like that but all television shows because of that all censored television shows only exists within a certain band yes a certain frequency they never get out of that like the Joey Diaz frequency is like their roof yeah there's no fence ah true this this frequency that you get on like late-night talk shows or a sitcom this very narrow band that that there's no [ __ ] in that band there's no you [ __ ] this all those things are not in there which is what you're all of it I feel like whenever you're for me when I'm watch something like that part of my brains always like go find a [ __ ] somewhere no it's like kind of wanted especially now we're just we're so used to being free yeah especially us because a podcast and live live stand-up yeah you know and I was gonna bring this up like your show like your show that you do with your wife your mom's house if anybody just wanted to go cherry-pick things and write them down right some of the things you guys joke around about where you're clearly joking yeah but take it and write it down in quotes and then Tom said to his wife oh yeah and by the way one hundred thousand times worse than anything in life stain about ever said yeah it said on that podcast I mean it's not even comparable it's so much worse the content yeah it's like we don't go into the show of like let's be offensive but we play in a no-rules like have fun environment yeah you know it's like free-flowing just say whatever and that's the fun of the show yeah and it's also everybody knows you're joking yeah yeah the fanbase is like a hundred percent on board with like this is on a you know uncensored just loose fun going for it going for jokes what I also found too is that during this whole controversy after special was released yeah you got bigger it's like people they by doing that campaign yeah and then people who did investigate the good actually these guys really [ __ ] funny I mean I got I usually you know again I never publicized these things because its grossed you know to be like check out this compliment but I got so many messages from people who are like I saw this thing on the news because it was on a lot of local news that there's a controversial Netflix right thing out these people would message me I saw its this thing so I decided to check you out new fan just bought tickets to see you at blah blah blah so I started to get a bunch messages like this oh for sure because you're gonna get 30% of the people that aren't even gonna read it they're just gonna call you piece of [ __ ] yeah but the other people are gonna go what is going on over here and the next thing you know they're gonna investigate anything I go what they're doing this guy dirty yeah yeah and boom yeah I got a lot of I got a lot of support that I never liked I said I never made light of the fact that people are being supportive but people were being very supportive well it just seems like there there's different there's different rules now for stand-up and you got to really cover your ass but in your case you did cover your ass and they disingenuously left that part out like they deceptively left that out when they were writing down what you had said they didn't put it in the context that's true and and then you know part of you goes man like is I'm not trying to paint myself as a martyr or you know I mean are and like people who are going down this path of you know they have family or friends with disabilities it's like I'm not gonna my whole thing was never to attack them branch so I'm not gonna try to make it a battle that I have to win core like so once once I saw like kind of what I thought clearly was happening I was like you know just let people vent their frustration about if it's about me or about what I said just let it happen yeah and you know because I don't I don't hold it against them that they're that they had that they're upset about this issue right you know and even though like you're saying your instinct is once to go like hold on why don't you put it clearly wrote I said after a moment of it I realized it like that kind of wasn't the point for me in that in that time I was like just let people yeah cuz I also figured out that if people yeah a lot of people were gonna read it say something and go like this guy's [ __ ] worst and it kind of feels good sometimes to be like you wanna know who a bad guy is this guy yeah and you know even though you want to be like hey I'm not that bad of a guy if someone wants to just go there you just kind of have to let it go and then let the people who were enjoying it or who were investigating it and finding like oh it's a little different than it's being presented yeah

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Published: Fri Apr 13 2018