Joe Rogan - The Business Secrets of Drug Dealing

the Joe Rogan experience so let's talk about what we were just talking about you were you wrote a book with a guy about drug dealing and he was gonna come on wearing a mask yeah he wanted to come on wearing a Barack Obama mask actually it's it's actually really funny the whole story is really funny I'm writing this book I spelled it too it's called the business secrets of drug dealing you can find it at business secrets of drug dealing calm and I'm serializing it but basically somebody I knew for ages in a completely different capacity I sort of came out to me last year and said um you know I've been a high-level drug dealer for for a long time basically my whole life and wanted to tell his story about you know sort of the the whole progression of his life what kind of drugs only things that grow out of the ground so he started off this is a this is an african-american guy he started off believer not selling mushrooms he he sort of grew up half in the projects and half in an upscale suburb and he in the upscale suburb he sold mushrooms which he basically got through mail-order at a time early in the sort of history of the internet when there were some loopholes about things he gets pores right yeah well actually you could get the actual really yeah yeah Wow so he ends up having this whole career and he wanted to sort of explain to me what the rules of the game were and do sort of a book version of the ten crack commandments and so we sat down and we couldn't quite figure out how to do it at first but we ended up essentially doing a sort of fictionalized version of of his life and the progression is amazing because he he goes from being a dealer in all these different parts of the country and different social spheres he's in college he deals to rich white kids he deals on the street and in in you know tougher urban neighborhoods and then ends up sort of in the legal business in this state as a lawyer no no no no no he legal marijuana oh yeah and so he's describing that world which is not there are a lot of misconceptions about it there are there are some things about it that are not known terribly well like you know what do you do when you work you know at a farm and your crop tests dirty you know with a with a contaminant well you know not everybody just throws it away you know a lot of that stuff ends up shipped across country goes to other markets and he sort of describes a lot of this like what contaminants would that be like fungal or yeah like a fungus something like that then you know there are labs that basically have to clear you know from what I understand that have to clear each of the crops and and there are situations where you know there's a whole bunch of crop and you got workers that have to be paid and what do you do with it and the legal market isn't big enough to accommodate all the stuff that's grown and so there's sort of still you know kind of a black market that goes on and he he describes this and but even before that it's just a fascinating book about you know all the different things that he learned in the course of his career about how to get a you know do the job and not get caught had it had a rig a load at draft cross country how do you do a dummy car you know you tell us a story about how basically you want four cars you want the guy in the front seat to be to be to look like a drug dealer have a terrible wreck or drive badly basically to attract the police and the you know the third car is the load car the second car is sort of watching to see if there's there's cops in either direction and then the fourth car is basically driving up behind the load car to sort of prevent anybody from seeing the license plate and that sort of thing and so he just talks about all this stuff and it's it's it's fascinating and it was a new kind of writing for me because I've never really done anything except straight journalism and we sort of had to do it narrative form and so we're putting it out serially online right now which is really cool so you did one of those to change the names to protect the innocent exactly yeah yeah or the guilty yeah yeah but for the most part based on facts mmm yes yes the situations were let's just say realistic you know yeah yeah and and his you know the observations were that that he describes are all you know things that he actually learned the situation's were you know relatively close to things that actually happened so yeah that's interesting so that's available now mm-hmm yep yep again it's business secrets of drug dealing calm it's it's kind of a new thing I grew up a huge fan of serialized detective stories I was a big fan of like Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler and I loved black mask magazine which was the big pulp noir magazine in the 20s and 30s and you know I grew up reading all those stories and I always it was in the back of my mind always that I wanted to try this and write a book on a deadline so I'm doing this now it's a it's basically co-written with this anonymous character who can't appear with me on shows like this anywhere because he asks he's still not captured and so are there warrants out for this guy no he's never been picked up been arrested never been arrested no ho yeah like a smart dude he is a smart dude he is a smart dude and some of his employers would be very surprised to know that he's got a hobby like this it's funny good night you know I knew him again I knew him for years and didn't have the faintest clue that that this was this was going on so you keep a job in order to avoid suspicion so the book is actually structured with all these rules each chapter has has rules in it one of his his most important rules is always have a job and it's for a number of reasons number one he talks about how when he was young he worked at places like you know Marriott or Applebee's and he's like you know if you can serve have the patience to serve people at an Applebee's and not blow up and scream at people then you won't screw up a package like in other words if if you can have the self-discipline to actually get through one of these jobs and not blow up and be crazy then you're gonna handle or handle yourself well at a car stop that's fascinating so he used it almost like as a discipline exercise he used it as a discipline exercise he learned and among other things like another one of his rules is dressed like an off-duty Applebee's waiter like do not dress he talks about this about how most dealers they learn their their profession by watching movies you know there's no there's no book out there I mean they it's not like this generation is growing up reading me the old iceberg slim or Donald Goines novels or whatever it is they're watching you know the wire or blow or Ozark now or whatever it is but dealers very often dressed like dealers you can you can kind of spot him you know and he says that's exactly the opposite of what you have to do you know where Sperry shoes wear boring clothes look like you know youth you're on your way to to your freshman English class or whatever it is and you know sound like a nerdy college kid when when the cops pull you over and all this stuff is sort of central to his his whole worldview about how to avoid getting caught Wow that would be a great book it I mean it is it's it's it's really fun and you know the the fact that that the you know the co-author is actually a person who's pulling this off makes it makes it really interesting and it makes it a real challenge to write it too because you know I had to kind of simulate his voice and kind of communicate to people what what those situations were like and what things look like from his point of view and obviously I'm white and he's african-american and that's that's tough and but you know I think it works it's kind of a cool story but it must have been a juicy like when you found the subject I feel like oh boy we got something here oh yeah super juicy ya know it's it's it's so much fun I haven't had this much fun like fun fun writing anything for a long time because you know most most criminal memoirs and again I grew up a junkie in terms of reading this stuff I loved I loved books that are written after the fact by people who were in crime you know like Papillon was one of my favorite books growing up I mean it's a it's an amazing story about not not just crime but about prison and what's that like but they're always written by people after they got caught right and so there's never that book by the person who's still out there and and talking about what outlaw life is like successfully still on the other side of the law and that that part of it is fascinating it's just uh it's a completely new thing and and he has all these insights that I that I would never have thought about like he talks about how there's a thing he calls the hood price like if you when you're dealing selling to in black neighborhoods even he charges a higher price because there's more there are more problems that you never leave run into when you're dealing in those neighborhoods because there's more cops which means more lawyers which means more security which means more attention to detail when you deal to rich white kids this is nobody's paying attention so you just there's less overhead you know in the business which is which is fascinating it's it's and you know he talks all about this and and yeah he has he spent a lifetime kind of just keeping all this stuff in his head always wanting to put it down and he just got to be too much and he just sort of tapped me on the shoulder one day and said can we have lunch it's what I've talked to you about something I would say three years was four years yeah yes that's very easy yeah we had to trust you well I'm glad we decided to not have him on because he would get busted yeah exactly yeah yeah like you can't like if you were on something and you had a mask on people go that's Matt Taibbi somebody listening to him he that maybe he doesn't understand that there's millions of people listening I totally agree hundreds of those people would go that's whatever right it's Mike that's John whatever his name is they would get it even the even the Unabomber got caught and he only talked to like two people [Applause]

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Length: 12min 42sec (762 seconds)

Published: Thu May 10 2018