Jason Williams on Lebron vs Jordan, Untold Shaq Stories in the NBA, & Dwight Howard Gay Rumors

I remember when I first started comedy my dream was to one day headline mass in Square Garden and I would tell people that and they would all usually roll their eyes or they would like they kind of laugh at the notion of it I told you that that was my dream and I said one day I want to headline mass in Square Garden and I remember you sto what you were doing and you looked me in the eyes and you said uh I'll see you there wow and it was like really important to me because I felt like I wasn't the only person that believed that could happen wow and uh I know is as you get older you know sometimes things become harder to remember but I remember everything I remember all the time you put into me and and all the effort that you made and how much you always believed in me and supported me and um it's made all the difference absolutely yeah so the reason I brought you here is uh yeah I want to say thank you you for being the most amazing dad ever and the other reason I want to bring you here is because I want to let you know that uh when my tour comes to New York I'm going to be headlining Madison Square [Music] Garden wow so I'll see you there you definitely will see me there love you so [Music] much hey woo yes that's awesome that is that was really cool Bravo to vaa who made that video absolutely amazing job amazing um great uh song Choice Mark V gave you credit for that appreciate that and uh Shifty thank you so much for filming and uh that yeah that was awesome today was we're recording this uh Monday obviously and uh the Jason Williams episode will be you know in a few minutes but we just wanted to maybe reflect on Masson Square Garden and uh yeah today was a really cool awesome awesome day what have you been feeling man just a lot man I think I just kind of like suppressed all the feelings for a long time to kind of get through it so then you know once I put it out there I was able to kind of feel those emotions and uh it was just really cool those like old videos I don't know get me amazing yeah yeah just I don't know my there's this video vola showed me like and I guess I didn't even know this but like my after my mom gave birth to me my dad took off my mom went back to work so like for the first 6 months it was just like me and him yeah yeah that's awesome so I I probably would like my mom if it didn't go that way but someone got to pay the bill she's the reason you hustled dude immediately back to work joke I love my mom so much she's amazing and congrats on on becoming a US citizen mom that was incredible but uh but yeah it was just I don't know it was just really um yeah it was just really awesome really awesome and and the feedback has been great and um yeah my dad it was great to say those things to my dad you know obviously my dad has memory issues the short-term memory is not really there and so maybe it's more for me to get them out to him like at least I know that I've said it to him I've said it to him every single time I see him but like it's there and he can watch it anytime he wants to or my mom can play it for him and uh but yeah like 40 years never took a day off man he just he was there and uh I'm luck kids do in the world because of it so did your parents watch the video my mom did loved it she was really happy about it and uh I don't know if my dad has yet I imagine she'll play it for him but you know he yeah you know I don't don't know where he'll be with it you know she was too busy working to be there with him some she she's a citizen now she doesn't have to work as hard that's a good point divorces my dad immediately dude wow so yeah anyway thank you guys so much the feedback has been cool has anyone specific reached out you're like oh wow that's really cool this person hit me up I think a lot of people who like either you know their dad is is on the decline or their dad had just passed like a lot of those people hit me up and like you know it's a really special relationship that and I think the video just kind of TAPS into that into those feelings so they did and that's always really cool you know and um yeah it's just it's just wild the thing that you posted leading up to it with your dad the pictures you guys had together wearing the collar shirts the MSG is like one of the most famous Arenas in the world but it means more to New Yorkers I think in like a really like a special way you know what's funny I went to MSG with you one time and you told me to wear a suit and I never knew why I did and we got free Nick tickets and they were great seats but I was like I thought we were meeting people afterward and then I just went home and I was like I'll put on a suit go to watch some guys in basketball shorts run around yeah to be the only people but I didn't know where that came from for 10 years or whatever is when you were filming that uh the hockey show and you got really good ticket Tock game so this whole time I've been like I guess I just wore a suit to MSG if your suits are anything like your clothes you were the first in the Steve Harvey suits oh yeah you know what it was I look like a caterer with some baggy ass clothes yeah it was uh yeah it's weird my dad had no rules really grown up there was like very few things you know apologize when you do something wrong uh do your homework and that was pretty much it and then one of them was just like hey if we go here you didn't really listen to either one of those I did but one I'm one for three doing okay and um but yeah he was like yeah we got to wear a college shirt and he would go over these things be like yeah you know alifa Frasier here and he would like say all these like great things that happened like Marciano fraud Lewis and uh and yeah it was just like I was like okay man all right I didn't get it but I was like all right you know if you say so then we'll do it and um and yeah I guess it was just really special to it's special to us I mean did you feel that way growing up about the garden like of course yeah it's just I feel that way and I'm not even I can't even imagine yeah yeah I mean I I prefer the Amway arena in Orlando I think that I that one was more special not even dude the the American Airline Center in Dallas doesn't mean as much to me as the garden the garden is the it's the mecca they call it the Mecca and I can't even imagine and no I'm not even saying this as a slight to you but growing up in Manhattan you probably walk by the thing so many times your entire life the idea of headlining there is the dream yeah and I thought the promo you did is the and I think what's cool is as we are all growing up we're kind of let people in more and I thought this was cool that you let people you had this amazing dude anybody who saw his vows and what he said to his dad at The Vow we all cried and just showcasing a little bit of that I thought was just so cool that you let the world see that on this I don't know I was and this is cool how it ties in with the show as well yeah there cool times with the show that people will see yeah yeah the people who have seen the show I think they they'll get that and those of you don't I hope you guys all come out and uh yeah I don't know we just wanted to touch on that a little bit in the beginning I think I'm still processing it all but like it's literally Lally been i' I've said it in the caption but I thought about every single day like there's a moment every single day it could be for two seconds it could be for 30 minutes but I think about it and I think it just all just smacked me in my face once I put it out there like I was like whoa this is a reality that's your Roman Empire that's my favor yeah dude you haven't thought about the Roman Empire in like two months it's just been filled up with mg time my Coliseum dude dude but now you can get back to Roman Empire thoughts yeah thank God so it is the Coliseum if and when the American Empire they're just studying about in history books you'll hear about MSG more than any other sports arena on the face of the planet yeah yeah or at least in American history that's that's the one I'm I'm at a loss of words I'm not usually like this but amazing video thank you guys so much for the roles you guys have played and getting here which are instrumental doesn't happen without you guys uh thank you miles and just thank you everybody listening watching and um yeah it just means the world to me and uh I'm so grateful and um I hope I hope we get to see see you guys all there cuz it's going to be special I promise you that man I remember you got a little emotional at the end of your radio City shows I cannot wait to see you cry at the end of these MSG shows what be the end I think it's going to be the whole show I think it's going to be I think it's going be an hour of him weeping just being like guys yeah tell a joke he's like I can't right now I don't know if people can tell at the end of the radio you guys youo just pouring tears you know where I'm from as from New York City bro you got to bark tickets outside the arena you got to do it before the show be like tickets you got tickets we'll save five tickets I'll do it with it but yeah anyway we'll get to the next episode just wanted to you know take a moment and uh reflect on that and once again thank you guys all so much love you love you guys conk y all for helping our brother get there absolutely and I genuinely mean that like anybody who's ever shared a clip or shared an episode or brought friends out to shows and anybody who's done that you know pure altruist is M has changed my life I think it's changed all of our lives and um to be able to get to this like and I'm sure the people watching right now you have something that you're thinking about that you want and you think about that every single day and 16 years will go by and eventually when you realize that it's going to happen it's going to be a profound experience man just H just enjoy it I hope it happens to every single one of you man yeah it's this is your Izzy moment I hope you can all experience this this feeling one time yeah I genuinely hope yeah and I can't wait for you guys too and it's going to be awesome and I'm G to sit there with you while you guys are crying and it's going to be great it's going to be great anyway let's get to the episode we literally got one of my childhood Heroes and some I've looked up to I think we've all you know grown up watching basketball this guy's an absolute Legend and he's as great as you think he is bro it's it is so nice to admire somebody and meet them and then they exceed the expectations I told him that this is a hero I'm glad I met which doesn't happen often facts so enjoy the one and only the white chocolate Jason BL he was tell us about the technical in China them referees the dude is their coach is like the national team coach or he might be the leader of their army or some early in the game they're probably going to call offensive foul sure enough ref is cheating soon as they call offensive foul my dumb ass boots this ball commotion next thing you know Boom the ball is right back in my hand what do I do got of kicked further than that they think I was now I'm kicked out of the game this is the charity game yeah next thing you know the boss of China whoever that is boss of China talk to the rest I think they end up letting me play in the second half I was fearful that they was going to take my passport yeah you could get locked up last place you want to be locked up in China I think what do you think would happen fill you up with duck sauce well I'm not I'm not B Clon was fast as hell like I'm on a gold tooth bro it didn't matter I was fck as a hiccup I was high as giraff which is a dish in China China for me is like a 7day top what happens after that I start to die what's up everybody Welcome to flagrant today I'm incredibly excited because we have uh Bell West Virginia's finest we have quite possibly the greatest passor in the history of the NBA and and the greatest quarterback Randy Moss has ever played for we got Jason we got Jason build that I'm I'm going to say I'm I'm going to be a close second to Tom Brady bro you think I'm going to give Tom than nod so humble he's got too many rings bro not to give him the credit right that's fair now I I got to I have to like clear up some folklore about you all right okay folklore might not might be hard to clear up okay exactly it could be complete you know fairy tales it could be real stuff but throughout history obviously I've been watching since I'm a kid I literally went to go see you play the Nets my dad got uh got tickets I remember going to see you play for New Yorker to go to Jersey B deal Mick fan lifelong that's like taking a flight almost wow yeah yeah yeah yeah and yeah this is a big this is big so uh and and you only scored six points which is really annoying we made a big trip for six points but listen uh high score game okay is this true you used to do driveby paintball shootings of Chris Weber's home in Sacramento uh I'm going ple the fifth God fine that's right I mean his his house probably caught some bullets along the way but there some that's the most country ass white boy drive by you could possibly do you know what I mean and he was probably he was probably with me on some of them Drive buys just trying to get family members out of that's I got I got a good story about that we were doing that one time the security guard at at the uh lost logos in Sacramento Granite Bay shout out we had a good time there other than this one uh incident so we couldn't get in the gate or something so so we decided we're going to go down and and and do our thing at the security guard at night right so we got these two little two little scooters we're riding on these scooters BL we dropped them over there in the dark and we're walking through the woods or whatever we got the paintballs and we got rocks boom boom we did it and here we go take off we left the scooters C web's shoe falls off no oh no and we get there and we stop I'm like bro where's your shoe he said it fell off I said you got to go get it you're the only in here to we yeah come on bro but we got away with it no nobody got in trouble so this is Rookie year yeah rookie year yeah that was that was that was the most fun time I think because it was it was a blessing in the SKU because we only played it was the lockout season we only played 50 games so we would play Monday Tuesday Wednesday you know in three different time zones and we really have any time for practice or anything like that so what I say is a blessing in dis SKU I really didn't learn much it was just coach threw me out there and I got to do what I got to do so um like I said blessing in the skies I I had fun and I wouldn't change it for the world though M okay uh second piece of folklore when you're still playing some recck League ball there's a play that you call called calling blue what is calling Blue Man blue I don't think blue will work in too many men's legs without fights um for instance if most of the men's leagues that I played in I play I had a pretty good team you know it's like I mean I knew what I was doing a little bit Yeah but but I'd always keep a two Shooters with me and some athlete to play D or whatever I mean guys would guard me you refuse to play two Shooters with me there you go that's good good yeah so so if we get up by like 50 or 60 and other team still talking or whatnot we're going to call blue and blue what blue is as soon as they score this is crazy you bring the ball in you're on my team you throw it right to me in the corner I'm shooting a three in their bucket so he's scoring on his own if I call Blue we're scoring on the other team we're scoring for the other team why just because they're talking and we we're already up 60 now you still can't be disrespect now is it true totally is it true you once got fouled while shooting on your own basket yeah that was that was like I think that was before blue even was created but we were I I I remember like it was yesterday my agent was in town this was like a uh pick like a a wreck league in a men's league man and I told my agent I said look I'm going to give you the other team I'm going to give you the other team the spread 72 okay we only playing two 20 minute halves running clock right so they're up they got we got beat them by 72 I look over with like there's like six minutes left and we're like up by like I want to say 86 something like that so yeah yeah and we start shooting I start well it only it only happens if the other team's talking if the other team just just takes the ass whooping and Goes On by their business we'll be fine just be by how much will you beat them by then a 50 we'll try to be depends on what what our team wants to do that night we're just there to get I'm sorry we're just there to get some conditioning in right we call Blue when we're up what an thing guys we're not really taking it seriously we're trying to get some cardio in so let's everybody be polite about this that's right that's right so I'm I'm doing blue and we're shooting on other other team's basket and now the other team's kind of kind of they're getting mad that I'm shooting and like the third fourth one they come and try to play D and don't let me get the ball in bounds so finally get it in get it in I'm dribbling up the court towards my basket and I turn around real quick and shoot it back in their basket and Buddy foul me well the ball went in now now now now I'm looking at the ref what now what you going to call here I'm ready that's right that's right so I'm like what you going to call he's like I don't know really what to call so he just comes over to me and says Jason cut the so what I think is what what do y'all think should happen in that situation I think you're shoo free throw free throw you don't know the bucket went in yeah but on who Sho on their basket you shoot the basket at their free throw I I think you should choose no you got to shoot on your free throw what I think happens is I think the three-point counts for them but you get to shoot a free throw correct on my basket because you're shooting you're fouled in the act of shooting that's right like I don't know how people not try to try to whoop my ass when I do something if somebody did that to me yeah I'm firing yeah that was that never resulted in a fight immediately never resulted in a fight jeit how many fights did you get in growing up not not really many but because I was like I was so much smaller than everybody I would really never talk to nobody like that and I I I kind of know when I can talk I know 40y old rec league that's what yeah cuz I know I got you know I know who's with me or what yeah yeah so so like who is your protector growing up because I assume that you know sometimes the game gets a little disrespectful like well I High School Rival Well in high school in West Virginia we was just beating we could have called Blue in high school in West Virginia if we wanted to it was that dominant yeah we were we were killing people then too so I guess for everybody who doesn't know like you go to high school with Randy you guys both play football together you both play basketball together and Randy was incredible at basketball too he was and you were incredible at football like you win player of the year one year is Randy on the team Randy was on the team and did have you never let him live that down no because he won player the year in basketball one year too so I mean you know it's like fair is fair yeah that's right I wasn't a bad quarterback though but I didn't like to get hit yeah I wasn't I wasn't and I couldn't remember the play like like I would called a play in a huddle I I wonder why I wonder why SC scra SC hey Randy this is the play Go long Randy that's right that's the play so so I would get I would be in the Huddle and I would call whatever like let's just say 32 dive and then you got to get up to the to the to the line and say a Cadence like as a quarterback like 482 four I wouldn't if I said all that I done forgot this 32 so look I'm calling 32 div and and the first word you guys hear me say that's when you hike the ball the first sound you could be hike that there any numbers involved I don't know what we're going to do that's hilarious but but to your point yeah just throw it as far and as high as I could and MOS would go get it every time so you would you would a cannon you could throw it I could throw it yeah a little bit yeah yeah yeah yeah MOS was a good baseball player too though yeah you keep saying I was watching you guys have a great you a great Up in Smoke interview you said uh yeah he could fish his ass off that's right like said he could be an NFL punter today for sure or a field goal kicker but fishing why why that's what he likes to do like I like to golf he likes to fish I I don't get into that I don't I mean you could go out there for six seven hours and nothing happens I mean how much dope you going to smoke how much beer you going to drink out there you know what I'm saying so I I don't know I guess he goes into competitions and maybe in competitions they got like they stock the lake or whatever ever before I don't know nothing about it bro I don't why you just can't catch fish I just I I don't want to touch the bait and then if I do catch a fish I don't want to touch that slimy some what's what's up with you think about like eating and then people touching your hands what's the I just I don't I don't I don't really like I don't really like people touching me really you know what I mean like like especially if I don't know you okay for example there's some there's some parts in this world uh that that you can go to and like you know God for I'm thankful that people want to take their picture with me I'm very thankful for that but but I don't get it when people are like can I get a picture yeah at least ask me first you know what I mean so stuff like that kind of makes me a little but did something happen with the food cuz I've heard this story I'm not sure I I don't refresh my memory I don't know like while you're eating you don't like anybody touching your hands I'm not sharing food I don't really like to share food either I'm going I'm going you know we're all big IO yeah we're all big boys why we want to share some shrimp fried rice just get your own Bowl right am I wrong for that though that's completely right and and I'll gladly buy you that bowl too if you like it now if somebody starts eating out of your shrimp fried rice that's yours that's yours so you can't go to a family style restaurant all these big place have them so what happens when you're when you're playing on when you're playing on the Kings and you're with all these Euros who are used to these like big you know Collective meals everybody eating together they got the handser and there's hummus everything's getting passed around how are you handling all that y'all keep that hummus over there we going you know y'all Europeans keep that over here us Americans we going to e the wings and know we going to have this over here you know I mean like Europeans are a lot different than Americans you know I mean I mean God bless them they can hoop they can do all that stuff but they're just they just just different right yeah forkin I mean yeah you know what I mean long forkin that is true that is true you notice that yeah and and that was different for me I'm from Bale West Virginia as you said earlier there's no four skins in Bale not one you know what man I I I'm gonna say the same but Doug Christie Doug Christie that's my guy Doug Christie uh was a great guy I think he got a bad rap bro he's just he wanted to win bro why did he get a bad rap I think because he loved his wife so much and in NBA Circle people dig that you mean that did kind of Define him it did but but bro Doug Christy and his wife are two of the greatest people you ever meet bro and he played D and you didn't want to do that so you love that I didn't get paid to play [Laughter] D I love I love your animosity towards defense bro okay uh but defense defense I'm not a defense doesn't win championships for me for you yeah yeah yeah like you got to score to win right yeah like I say all the time you want five Ben Wallace's or five Allen Iverson five a who's winning that game five right bro so I agree with defense help though I don't remember who I think Stephen Jackson said in all the smoke five Ben Wallace would end up winning that game just out of sheer physicality they just I think he F they're gonna foul out Ben wall gonna foul out I mean there's nobody that's goingon to stop AI oneon-one especially Ben Wallace then they get frustrated and then they start fouling right and you know what else people don't realize now I'm guarding Allen Iverson he gets by me and now the big guy has to come and help my big guy defensively and he gets in foul trouble or AI dumps it off to his man now he's got 32 at the end of the night and now the big guy's looking at everybody's looking at the big guy like your guy scored 32 what the hell hypothetic hypothetical that does make a lot of sense but reality the defensive teams do tend to win the Championships like if you're not good at defense you're not winning most likely even Golden State had to get good at defense without Draymond that team folds right well without Steph Curry and Trey Klay Thompson's three-pointers where that that's true but you gota you know you got to defense helps defense actually I'm a Mas I'm a why we hire people to do that the reason y'all beat us the team that I rooted for in 06 was the defense they couldn't handle the defensive pressure I think watching it that was part of it but uh Avery Johnson they called a timeout in between free throws too and then they couldn't Advance the ball so people don't realize that either you remember that of course it was late in the game and not a single play behind Center oh you remember every you can't remember 32 di many numbers and I got a lot of numbers and then I got to go 782 no I can't do that can't do it dude okay okay okay let's start let's go back from the beginning because I don't think people know enough about how tumultuous like the beginning of your career is okay so high school incredibly fun you guys are doing whatever the you want game sold out people coming through it's like crazy like celebrity type stuff in town town is small but even extended Town everybody knows you in the region oh yeah for sure state championship if you don't get to the JV game before the JV game starts you're not getting in watch our game that night wow they would have to go to the JV game yeah sit through the whole JV game oh yeah do you start to experience Fame a little bit then no not really okay because these are all your friends folk you grew up with them all 17 of us right it's a thousand people in the town so knows each other maybe yeah okay you get an offer to play for Donovan at Providence Donovan wasn't at Providence yet it was Rick Barnes at Providence oh Rick Barnes okay M then what happens where you end up going to Marshall okay Kentucky was recruiting me a little bit when I was a senior Billy Donan was an assistant coach at Kentucky so he liked you he he was the one recruiting me right so he brought me into summer camp down there Kentucky patino's so patino could see me push come to shove patino needed a freshman to play major minutes and he didn't think I was ready so they they recruited elsewhere and Billy Donan over that same time period took the job at Marshall I would have never thought about going to Marshall it was like 40 minutes from my house um just just never thought about going there until he took the job so I signed with Providence out of college with uh Rick Barnes he took the job at Clemson that's right he leaves so now cuz you like rck Barnes it wasn't the school you believe in the who believed in you let's get this it's never to school it's the coach of course that's the recruiting process just come on man Name an athlete that's ever been drafted that's been on the interview ever that said man I went to such and such because they had a great biology Professor facts you know what I mean facts there might be a couple like that might be an institution like duke or something but still you're coming there for Coach K correct yeah yeah yeah yeah okay okay exactly okay okay so he leaves now you're like I don't want to play for this coach and did the did the coach that so what is his name Rick Barnes leav Rick Barnes left uh Pete Pete Gillan got AR rest his soul he came in oh he I had a relationship but he wanted to bring in he brought in God sham God get the that's what I was going to ask okay okay yes so so who's actually I think now with the match still he is um so I didn't want to go that far away from home you know probably not going to play right yeah I mean I probably probably could have still went there and took the minutes but I decided not kind of it's kind of funny though because you'd be like coach don't you want someone with handles and he's like well I yeah well maybe a white guy with handles um but were they offering you any uh brown paper bags no I was I wasn't yeah what is that I wasn't nowhere rated four star I didn't I didn't get any of that so no are they smoing your parents no no how do they even get in touch with you later on they smoo my my my my my parents little when I went to to end up signing with uh I had to set out a year because I had already signed a letter with providin so I went to Fork Union Military Academy in Virginia and I was there for like eight days that there boy defense was too much it was literally defense defense there didn't even make it to basketball no no I I told my dad no I can't that no eight days after this you know you got to salute like sixth graders that's been there longer with more rank than you you know you got to make your bet I mean not that I'm against all that but you don't have no TV in your room no I'm not on like the third day class English class we got like a quiz with like 325 vocab words I'm no no I'm not cut out for this no so then after I set out the rest of that semester I went to talk with Billy Donan up at Marshall yeah so I set out a year at Marshall then he Brandy was there too right Randy came after me ah so I was at Marshall I set out a year then I played a year and then Billy Donovan left and went to Florida now does he tell you four no not really he's like I'm I'm like well he's like what are you going to do I'm like well the only reason I came here you know it's because you right and he's like well I I I want you to stay here looking back that's what he was supposed to say meanwhile I end up at Florida now people don't know now you don't have to do this but back in the day if you were going to change schools you have to sit out another year yeah so you already registered freshman your first year right so that's 18 to 19 is sat out now you're sitting out another year so two years it's not eligibility CU you maintain but it's still of your life playing yeah actually I played the year I set out a year and then I play the year you play the Marshall correct and then you have to sit out again that's right and it was illegal to pay so you're just sitting there I'm saying two out of your what would be four College Years you have to sit out yeah it's I mean it's just kind of crazy now I think players have a different perspective on it because now they're like let me get into the league as soon as possible cuz let me get paid as soon as possible but you're essentially doing four years of college while only playing two too right that takes away two of your playing years that's big money you could be making anyway so he says you should stay here right and is that a political move by him I think so looking back I didn't know that then explain that because I don't understand that I just think maybe he was just trying to say the right thing for me because he knew that he couldn't come out and say you come with me right cuz I think back then you're probably getting in trouble for taking players oh it's a bad yeah yeah cuz it's about the education right that's right that good biology professor that's right bro okay so so the new coach CES into Marshall yeah he starts sending me a bunch of rebok gear bom to the house thinking thinking if I open that now he's got me cuz it's like it's almost like he's paying me now I'm stuck here but my dad was kind of smart about it he didn't let me open any of it I was mad and help my dad I want to rock the gear right um so we had to end up hiring a lawyer and everything to get out of the uh commitment at Marshall to get to Florida so do you call up Donovan you say hey man I wantan to I want to come hoop for you um I didn't personally but but yeah he got yeah he got word yeah and he wanted it I I think so but I mean but I get down there and he kicks me off the team after 17 games but you were hooping I was hooping but I he told me though in all honesty he told me that if I got if I had another dirty test he was going to kick me off it was supposed to be three tests but he only gave me two but he told me after the first one you know he didn't have time for that and like I said earlier you know getting paid and stuff like I wasn't that kind of guy I wasn't getting if I was getting you know if you're getting 30 and 15 that kind of stuff just right under the rug I was that kind of guy plus I wasn't going to class I'm in trouble I mean Billy Donovan's rule if you didn't wait if you didn't go to class you know if you missed a class you had to wake up the next day at 5:30 and run for for a half hour I said look here I told the stren I'm G to meet you every day at 5 look it's a deal that's right because you know what I'm I'm going to get in better shape than everybody and and and and then I'm going to get a good breakfast and then I'm going to go sleep and I'm going to come to practice and bust everybody's ass in practice cuz I'm be in better shape and I'm ready to rock so I I thought that was probably another blessing in and a curse for me to learn that I can miss class and just have to run for 30 minutes I could run for 30 minutes all day you know what I mean did you know it was one year and you're out uh no I didn't you know once I got in trouble I'm like you know everybody what am I going to do this that and other and I always thought NBA or I don't know yeah you know now that I look back people ask me that question what would I've done if I didn't play in the NBA just my personality be like I can see myself you know I have fun like I have fun being like a UPS driver like a FedEx driver or something like I just give me my and let me go do my thing I ain't trying to be around my boss all day or whatever you know telling me what I had to do yeah that's just my personality yeah and you play like that too there's a rebellious spirit in the game yeah it's really interesting because you're the most humble dude that has been as famous as you've been like like truly humble yeah but your game has no humility well I I think that comes with the territory a little bit because as a as a as a little dude growing up playing I mean let's keep it real most most hoopers are are are black dudes right yeah and and athletic and big and strong way bigger and stronger than I was growing up right so you're not but I I might have a half Uncle down there somewhere something down there um but like you said I just go and and if you didn't have that kind of attitude on the court bro I think you a guy like me would just get ate up I think a lot of people confuse humility for a lack of confidence but they're totally dissimilar cuz you were playing confident to the point where I I feel like you were rejecting Authority so like the coach might have wanted you to make the correct pass and the so I'm trying to understand where that confidence comes and I've heard you say I've drilled these passes I know it's going to go there every single time but still when you're in a big game moment we all have we haven't been to big games with you but we all have this feeling like I don't want to do something that could let the team down right it doesn't even have to be a big game moment we're playing paddle whatever you're like do I want to go for this slam and potentially lose the point for the team you never even n because what what if you didn't go for it and you didn't win and you're laying down in bed at night like damn I should have win for that we have won so the regret would eat you alive and plus like I've done tried all this I've practiced all this by myself and and now I got these dudes around me Chris Weber and and and and vlot devot and and and Shaq and dwade I ain't got to be nowhere near perfect with my cuz these dudes are going to make me look great I think it gets twisted up Twisted because I get a lot of credit for all this all this stuff but without these dudes none of this I wouldn't be sitting here today I mean i' some of these passes that I've thrown are were horrible passes but they caught these that made them look good bro so so and and the elbow pass I've did that thing probably millions of time and been successful three I think the greatest mistake in Lamar odm's life is fouling RAF Le fren on that I agree but again again it's not crack I'll take a little responsibility for that because if I have hit it to a bruh and he you know what I mean would have been different I know you saw R Trail you're like godam give me Randy Moss I'll take anyone but he was probably a little more athletic than Dirk was so I guess fair enough guys tour announcements we have added a show in Portland we sold out Friday and Saturday so we're adding a late show 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you're balling in Florida college game easy for you um you feel like you could do whatever you want I think basketball's kind of always been kind of easy to me I mean there's different levels to it but I just feel like as a basketball player that's that that's that's going to be playing the position that I played yeah when I get on the floor and I got the ball in my hand I'm getting to anywhere wherever I want to go on the floor I'm getting there that's yours you ain't stopping me I'm it might take me a little bit longer in different situations but I'm going to get there so just the confidence having that so getting what does that mean I'm going to get there for example like there ain't nothing you can do now I can't say that I'm going to score right I'm just saying like get to a spot on the floor where I'm going to get over here and I know you if you don't help all that corner it's a layup for me but if you take this just lean this way it's a three yeah just lean and that's all I'm really looking for so the imagination I think these kids they don't have the imagination as as today like they did back in back when I grew up and why is that I think because a lot of these kids have trainers now and and they walk in the gym and and a trainer's already got got a schedule we're going to do ball handling for 15 minutes all right we're doing all right now coming over here we're going to do this where whereas me I never had a trainer um I would go in the gym and work on different types of pivots or like like if you saw me working out like what what is he doing but I done try these pivots just in case I get caught a half court somewhere trapped and and and I got to use one of these crazy ass pivots just to get out of that I know that that that that I'm going to be able to do it but it might look like like but it's going to be yeah so my point is the imagin I got that I I've got this pivot I got that pivot whereas a trainer is only going to work on X Y and Z there's a uh I have a sorry question about the F the passing the way you passed I know you said the way to stay on the court growing up mainly playing with black dudes is I just I'll pass and they'll respect the passing is part of that why flashy passes people are going to be like oh that white guy is cold with the pass and keep him is that where that comes from you think on any level of like that just what kept me on the court when I was a kid I'm not sure man but but it wasn't about that that was keeping me on the court I was thinking more along like like if we're going to the park and you guys are there and you guys know how I play I'm passing and y'all like to shoot well you going to want me on your team all the time cuz you know I ain't shooting no balls I'm trying to get y'all the balls that's what that's why I'm wondering like if the if the NBA game was weirdly easier for you because you had more guys that could stroke so in the college game I imagine you have to take on a little bit more of the offensive burden like you got to get the ball in a cup more whereas you start playing the league and it's like wait a minute I got four different dudes that I like out so did you find the transition to be a lot easier than people have maybe told you about I mean it I want to say it was easier but I don't want to sound like an because the NBA is such it's difficult because them dudes are monsters night in and night out but yeah the spacing is different you know what I mean like I was kind of quick you know if if you weren't there when you're supposed to be I'm going to get by you yeah so like I said earlier if that guy's just leaning you know what I mean it's just it's a game of angles that's the other thing okay how often are you cuz I think a lot of times we look at or you know casual person is looking at basketball and they're like okay I see a guy open I'm passing it to him what I think you would do and what would make it different was you would make Guys open and I think the elite passers do this something you were doing offensively is dragging attention away help away and so you're setting up a pass while you still have the ball are you are you thinking two moves ahead or are you in that moment going okay boom dime well I'm I'm I'm definitely trying to think that way too but sometimes it doesn't happen like that but like most of the time most NBA is a pick and roll game right and and the defense should be played the same if it's played the correct way so so the guys should be where they are and as a point guard you should know if I'm coming off a side pick and roll well this guy in the in the in the ballside corner defensively he's got to slide in there and take the rle man on the pick and roll and if he don't then that R man's a dunk right cuz all the other three guys are on this side floor but now the pass that everybody wants to give up in the pick and roll defense is that guy slide in is the pass way back over there because all these guys in NBA is quick enough to to react to that where they're not quick enough to react to this little Quick Pass skip it all the time funny story about the skip pass Grant long you remember Grant long used to play for the Atlanta Hawks played for with u he played with me when remember Ike Austin Ike Austin with the Orlando Magic yes sir y yeah well anyway we played together in Memphis and it's my first year in Memphis and and and like couple timeouts come by Grant long was always in the corner of our offense always that's you go the corner no matter what's going on Grant's in the corner right so he's like all it's like two timeout he's bitching like man I'm open I'm open in the corner y'all need to swing it y'all need to swing it I'm getting fed up with this right so like next time out he's bitching again I'm like God damn it Grant it's a reason you're opening the corner it's a reason right I'm like look if you if you want to shoot the ball you go offensive rebound and every time you offensive rebound you can shoot it anytime you want he never said he was open again but but I I'm like I'm feel Grant because when I was in Miami you know that was my job I initiate the offense bomb get it to D way or whoever and go stand in the corner yeah and and and and if I get it shoot it or if not get your ass back on defense yeah I mean it's crazy the transition okay okay so you're you're hooping you get in trouble for the weed I think it's weed did they ever fully say it was weed yeah it was weed okay so you get never any other drugs on weed is that even a drug yeah so funny how we treated it in the '90s it was so funny we thought that was the craziest thing bro and there's people locked up for Life work crazy well you got another Vice too you got a Coca-Cola yeah Coca-Cola but that's not really a vice is it this guy apparently drinks Coca-Cola like breakfast lunch dinner oh you a morning Coca-Cola guy Coca-Cola Guy come on man look shout out come on they got you bro Co call her at me dog Okay so you're you're you're balling you get in a little bit trouble you're in flux right now right are there teams in the league that are interested cuz they saw what you were doing or is there no interest and then the Nick Anderson play happens yeah I don't I don't I don't know if there was any interest I wasn't aware of any interest now Billy Donan never told me anything about that any interest I'm sure there had to be some coaches calling him asking him something right I don't know though so I end up with Nick Anderson I end up we played a game before I got kicked off the team Florida Florida State in Orlando Nick came to watch blah blah he told his agent to he needs to sign me BL one thing let know now I'm with Nick Anderson's agent Nick Anderson basketball player played for Orlando Magic great shooter first first pick out of Orlando Magic ever for the franchise yeah um actually played in Sacramento with me too um but anyway we signed with a save agent and he had a h he had a condo down in downtown Orlando so when I got kicked off the team of Florida I moved down there and that condo started working out with those guys down there best shape of My Life One Thing lat to another I started the draft was coming up had to go work out for these different teams you know different different you I wasn't going to go work out I think the Clippers had won I'm not going to go work out for the clippers because they're not picking me one who they take candy candy right you should have worked out for the Clippers well it was back when Donal Sterling on the team so I'm glad I did you know I mean um so I worked out for these other teams and and and all these other guys are supposed to be you know picked ahead of me the Mike bibes the raer Austin's the Tyrone Lou that's right raer was in that draft class um so that skipped to my Loop a lot of times guys like that and myself will be at these these workouts for these different franchises but sometimes some guys would duck and Dodge some some some workouts too not in fear of hurting their uh cuz they don't want to go up against someone who's going toar supposed to be low right right so like I said when I moved to Orlando I got in the best shape of my life and I was going to all these workouts um and you're already hooping with the mat you're playing with NBA players like I could do this yeah yeah don't this whatever he wanted like like I said today if I go on court I'm getting wherever I want to get against anybody I might tear my achilles but I'm gonna get over worth it yeah so it's really just a body breaking down you know for sure I mean I I I mean if you can dribble with your left and right hand as good as a lot of people can yeah you can get to wherever you want bro I'm telling you okay okay so take us through it take us do it um so so I go through these draft workouts and and I'm killing everywhere I go who you going up against who's the one like um I never got to go against Biby um he was he didn't really work out he worked out for the top two teams that's it yeah cuz he knew what time it was but but um I worked out with I think I worked out with rord somewhere and tyo uh Sacramento we did that we they had me come back and work out again so you have an initial one yeah and and they called and said can he stay the night and work out tomorrow so what does that mean does that mean that they're unsure does that mean they saw something they didn't know they were going to see I personally think that they they wanted to see if it was real so they oh he might just had a great he might he was on fire today we got to make sure it's it and you get that call and what are you like are you like this is food yeah I think I think this is what's going to happen they had the seventh pick but then draft night comes and the Bucks had like Sixth and Don Nelson calls my agent I'm talking about they might take me at the six I didn't work out for the bucks at all never had any conversation at all I'm like so people were talking in the league I think so oh so but but even if people talking if I was an owner or something like I wouldn't I wouldn't just go based off what he thought about you playing if I was trying to get him and I knew what time it was with him I'm not just going to pick you cuz you had some hoop right but still there's enough convo where they they have to make a decision maybe I think I made a little bit of noise too in a couple of these workouts do you remember which one was your best Sacramento was for sure the best one for sure I mean I I was and were you playing how you play Full Tilt no way it was hold up we did we did this one oh dude the balls so you don't even know if there's interest you go to these outs thinking there might be and you're oh you have nothing to lose that's all and plus that's all I know I'm not I'm not going to go out there and just try to yeah what's that going so you're toying with these and these coaches are and the staff are looking at they're like how is he playing so free why is he acting like this isn't the biggest deal in his life and I wonder if the sports psychologists on the teams are going yeah this kid ain't scared not scared or what what are you going to bite me but some but some players some play dude that's a big moment that's your life right there theore oh every other person that's playing is like I need to get the I need to be drafted by this team my whole life trajectory is built around this I have this Adidas deal or this Nike deal and you're out there I have no deal I'm just trying to get in that uniform and you were eating them alive eating were you chirping at him were you talk no no I wasn't chirping because like I said I was small and and and I wasn't I wasn't a chirper I don't want a fighter either you know what I mean um so you got five on the squad is are are you playing fives with the in these workouts like what is the no no there was only the one drill we did in Sacramento was uh I forget I forget who was was there with me but we did like a a one-on-one drill and the width of the paint that's out of bounds MH so I started half court with the ball and I go at you and if I score now I'm coming back at the other guy at the other end uh you full court you out of bounds is the paint you can't go out the width of the paint but are you going full speed I mean I don't think anybody's Stopping You full speed not anyone so they just have to wait at the free throw line and you're going full speed at them yeah and and I and I got to do the same thing for them too I mean like like I said earlier I ain't playing no D bro I'm just trying to like you know just try to back up and entice a jump shot yeah but at some point you know these guys the coaches and all this they ain't never want to see a jump shot you got to do something and so you were cooking them well yeah I was cooking I was just doing what I do like I said and you're in the best shape of your life so the full Court's not bothering you not a bit bro yeah not a bit okay so sack gets you with the seventh pick what can you can you explain draft night like what does that feel like you remember old boys in Orlando the barbecue spot oh yeah yeah that's where I was the night of the draft you at a barbecue restaurant thank you um you weren't at the draft no it was in Vancouver um that's right because of the shouts out to Vancouver I love Vancouver though when visit to play the Grizzlies and things like that Vancouver is a great City but but I wasn't going to go to the draft not knowing that I was even get drafted I'm sitting there they got me on camera in the second round I still ain't been drafted right you got old boy so I'm at old boys with my with my family right going to a barbecue restaurant for draft night might be the most Jason Williams man barbecue in Vancouver no l this is in [Music] Orlando so you know we're sitting there watching and and and the seventh pick comes up and well the sixth pick came up and that's when uh Don Nelson the Bucks called my agent said we might take him with the sixth pick and they're like why would you do that because I think we already knew the Sacramento if was there at seven was going to take me wow and once that my name was called bro sh yeah what are you feeling then we go to interview with briyan Gumble at the down theet and we wants to talk about was it weird being with someone that much whiter than you on camera you know he talks about wants to talk about the weed and stuff like that you know right away I'm like bro this is going to be the happiest day of my life we're not going to talk about all that oh did you say that to him of course good for you I'm got I mean for what why everybody knows what time it is yeah you know what I mean so why talk let's talk about that tomorrow yeah yeah that is an absolutely narcissistic thing to do yeah he's is ruin somebody the best day of somebody's life well not ruin it but try to like chip away it a little bit like you have to you have to have zero empathy to even ask that question on that day if it's a week later and you're at camp and you're doing the inter that's part of the job how about the next day even yeah give me a day to be happy just he put the sound bite over your happiness yeah really selfish that's all right shout out to Brian Gumble keep trying bro and how do your parents react um my parents you know I was more happy for for like my grandmother and people like that bro cuz I used to give my grandmother like $400 a month when I was in the league and you thought it would be like 4,000 or and did she support you when you were coming up for sure man and and all my all my homies we ride our bikes up to my grandma's house and she used to sew for people around town you know do their laundry or whatnot she' have a gang of ones like she was going to strip club every night right but she would break you know give me six seven how many home how many other home booys I have with me on our bike she' make sure everybody could get a big golf or what not at 7eleven so she yeah she looked out for sure wow that's really cool okay so you get to go to Sacramento do you know the team that you're walking into are you familiar with these guys this is a different generation where you can't exactly just go on Instagram and see their highlights yeah do you know the guys I have no idea but I knew I knew C web was I got traded there but he didn't want he didn't come for like the first three or four weeks that's right wasn't coming there's no good soul food in Sacramento that was the sound bite everybody gommed on to yeah yeah and his mom was very influential on getting him to finally come why why and his brothers to his brother's like look they just drafted a kid from Florida it's going to pass you the ball D it's going to be a lot of fun so they knew uh they knew well well they they made the trade for C web prior to my drafting yeah no no I'm saying cwb's family knew they they were they were kind of clocking you as well well yeah because they were just trying to get him to come because if you don't come you're going to lose all that money right but but you got to you got to give credit to that Organization for picking you they're looking for a guy who can deliver to people that they believe in and there's a lot of mouths to feed on that team oh yeah it was a really smart decision but but if you look back all those guys everybody on that team could pass the ball sewe was a great BL BL was a great pass yeah great who smelled the worst fla right you know what man it had to be voty they didn't they didn't smell the worst this they smell different than we did it's like they they took you know they they did showers different you know no we get a shower we're GNA shampoo her hair and then wash the body whatnot it's just like they go straight to the shampoo bomb and head head and chest and they're out of there yeah nothing yeah and back then too we'd have beer whes you know back then too in the league they have coolers of beer in the shower too so guys that drank would be drinking in the showers right after the game so it's a lot different now wow can you talk about like early like rookie year like hazing stories sure man that's like I don't I'm not even so sure they do that anymore bro really yeah but that's what he's supposed to say yeah I had some good but like I when I was coming up you know telling rookies like look man they're just trying you let if you do it you you'll be fine they won't even ask you to do it so you want some stories of me or some other cats all of it oh man the best of the best I don't know if you remember this dude named Goran gear he played with me in Memphis may remember him okay he's about a 66 I want to say Slovenian maybe I don't know but he's coming over here you know most of those guys that come over there they've already played pro ball over there before they come here so they don't think they're rookies here yeah I'm like that's a no no no you're rookie like so Ike Austin and Grant long yeah yeah in Memphis hey look Rook brings some donuts in the morning then bring them like three days go by like that no donuts and now I could tell these dudes get these these are some vets like like I would be shook up at these vets if they you know what I mean like don't piss these vets off cuz they're real vets and like I could tell like look look just bring some donuts just bring some donuts tomorrow for me just for me because I know what time going to happen and if you don't bring the donuts it's going to be on your ass they don't gave you three or four chances nah n Jay will I'm not a rookie I'm not all right next day no Donuts so at the end of practice they put a bin like a big laundry bin in the middle we pin our Gear Up throw it in the bin so the equip manager can go wash it well they dumped all that out of there duck taped his legs gear checks The Rook duck taped his legs hands behind the back butt naked put him in the laundry bin filled it up with ice roll rolled him into the shower filled it up with ice water rolled him out onto the pyramid floor old pyramid in Memphis onto the game floor right in the middle of the big old Grizz left it left his ass there for like 3 hours nobody found it way yeah so I think maybe that's what I'm saying so you can't mess with them ogs like that man if they ask you to do something fight them off like I'm sure but if you know Ike Austin and Grant long you're not going to fight that wow not going to fight them dudes no sir how effective was he after cuz Shaq said the only player I could never get to with The Hazing was Goran cuz he was from I think he was Slovenian gor drage and he was like Shaq you don't understand where I come from this hazing thing is nothing no matter what you do it's not worse than where I came from yeah but I don't know if they hog tied him and then put him in put in I that probably happened to a cousin of his back home you know what I me yeah yeah okay okay what else what else what else how torture people they had me one time landed in Boston and the snow was like I mean obviously it was a drift snow drift but it was like 20 ft high right and when we land like NBA teams you land we're NBA guys are spoiled you just walk from the plane to the bus don't worry about your luggage your luggage will be in the room when you need it right so the equipment the equipment guys and and and the airline guys are getting the bags from the so I had to get help with the bags this time that was my rookie deal but I had to do it without a shirt on like you got to do I want you to help put the bags so I'm like well I'm mading hell mading hell down but I'm doing it cuz I know I just got to do it and they just trying you anyway to see if you want to fight it right so if you don't fight if you fight it it going to be worse so I'm down there mad in hell I want to I want to open their bags and throw their clothes and everywhere but one at a time boom get on I'm like it I'm not riding with them I hop my ass right up under the bus with the B close the door and off we go I'll teach this nobody asked for you nobody bad decision why this old as hell right now H but they never asked me to do much after that so I mean like I said this if you just do it that' be cool with you yeah Who Who Are You closest with you think on sack had to be C web c web yeah yeah yeah at what point in the season do you guys really Jael and you realize there's something special happening I mean it had to be early because like I said earlier we only had 50 games it was it was quick but I remember the the the the feeling of that that team and I remember and keep in mind this is a time where there's not that much distraction we're watching basketball on what Tuesdays and Fridays oh no no that was short watching every night but you're searching when the kings are going to play I grew up in New York City I I watch the Knicks I'm not searching for a Sacramento basketball team we're searchable like when is this team going to play it was so exciting we just watch sports center all day so what's going to H what are they going to play highlights who's the Highlight machine you and the Kings so you're just in our brains dude you took over basketball the Kings and me not you and the Kings okay I like that come on bro okay now do you start to feel the fame ever when you're walking down the street do you start to feel the recognition and does that get to you at all you comfortable with it um I guess I like yeah I recognize it a little bit but I don't like even to I I never really look at myself as that bro like I'm just a normal dude man I I I can't imagine what it's like to be like LeBron and like tagger and and guys like that like come on bro they can't even go down the grocery store and look for what kind of cereal they got out now you know what I mean who's Tagger Tagger Woods tagger Woods what the come on bro is that some I heard tager this is not tech window I heard T just because we're in New York I ain't going to change my ACC you say however you want to say it but I my brain was working overtime for about 3 seconds like what the is tag I thought it was a watch a tager I had no tager what LeBron and tager come on LeBron and tager doesn't know anything no did you see the confusion in my I did I did okay but I like how you just I see it in my kids face though they make fun of the way I talk but yeah um you had to make him run a bike that's right at that so yeah I can't like like like the the Celebrity Status and things like that I never I never put myself in that situ but is it uncomfortable for you coming from West Virginia thousand people Florida at the time wasn't a basketball Powerhouse so you're kind of just doing there which now all of a sudden you're nationally famous was that there's a point in time where you have the bestselling jersey in the NBA yeah you're aware of this well that's just CA these dudes caught some bad passes and made me look good bro yeah but it's still you are famous kind of out of never having dealt with anything like that but do you start to feel that expectation when you're going out there to hoop or does it not affect hooping at all expectation was never there my only thing I was worried about is my 14 other dudes and my coaching staff KN as as long as they knew that I wanted to win I wasn't out there telling behind the back passes for myself or trying to get on Sports Center you know what I'm saying I'm I'm going to play this way and if we win then this shit's going to be on TV you know what I mean that's that I wasn't the expectation of me oh I'm I'm on three on1 I got to do something for for for y'all to watch on Sports Center tomorrow not that never entered my mind bro could you see because obviously at this point in time you're probably not just seeing people play pickup Etc but did people tell you how the pickup game start to change a little bit bit anybody tell you that like like throwing crazy stuff like that the pickup game growing up was always about getting buckets I grew up in the city hooping I'm trying to cross you over I'm going at your chest like I I remember watching Ai and I was like I Will Never back down again I don't care how tall you I'm going at your chest with my shoulder and I'm trying to lay it up and I remember when you and that Sacramento team were sharing the ball and I saw the pickup games start to change people want to drop dimes behind the back the no look and it's very similar to what also happened with Steph like I've noticed this with AI you and Steph Steph everybody's three feet behind the three-point line which you would also do yes yeah but but yeah if I could shoot like Steph Curry there would be no elbow pass nobody's getting touch nobody you wouldn't be here Europeans youo okay but I I just felt like a transition going with the game there was like a truly changed the way and I felt it became intoxicating even with the team I remember watching the team like oh everybody wants to make the extra pass did you feel that I did feel that but but I mean basketball is a beautiful game if it's played the right way to me bro like and and and it's so hard if we if we go out and play for me to get it done or for you to get it done for our team like if if you use screens and you use and you make the extra pass it just makes the game so much easier like how much easier is it for you instead of putting your shoulder down cross somebody up and banging into him and getting a layup as opposed to making one more pass setting the back screen and going back door wide open boom you know what I mean so I think it's just it's everybody today thinks getting buckets is where it's at and really and realistic it is yeah if you look at the guards like point guard people ask me could I playing today's game I think I probably could I had the talent to do it but I think I'd have struggled because most of these point guards now I got to get 30 or or or 25 30 points a night for the team to be successful and I didn't have that mentality to get Buckets but I also think you would have you've said this before I think you'd be better in today's NBA cuz it is more fast-paced we joking about the defense but there's not like the you have to play defense all the time you can score and your 30 foot threes aren't looked at as bad shots anymore your three-pointer would be encouraged you would have worked on that I just I just feel like the Sacramento team is fine we I I feel like the Sacramento team was a today's NBA team like you had bigs that could shoot threes right right so I don't know I feel like you would transfer to today's game way you have more people that can shoot from behind Arc right and more spacing too like you said that's right everybody wants everybody wants the league wants offensive points I me they want offense right they don't want 75 80 point games right yeah so yeah you came up in the lowest scoring era in NBA history probably and now I think you Chris Paul's not jacking up a ton of Threes but he's one of the best point guards in the league for sure maybe one of the best point guards ever yeah so I feel like you would actually be better in today's NBA than you were back then you were a little bit before your time man maybe a little bit is it is it true when you played the Jazz in the playoffs you told John Stockton there's a new white point guard in that that's not true um I wouldn't I would I made that up I don't know I don't know who made it up um John Stockton was a was a good player um was he talking he was a dirty player he didn't talk and he he he's filthy right he's a dirty player um I'm not so sure how much lisine he ever had in his mouth either oh that's I mean but hands his hands are really big you know hands like he's all dribbling he right off the dribble yeah like 30 feet but his hands were big like yeah he played just just a I want to say dirty cuz dirty is kind of like typ like dirty like grabbing your shorts on the screen or stepping on your foot so you slow down a little bit and like in NBA all you need is like a half second whether you're open or closed yeah or or guarded I've heard that about John before so the competitive advantage he had quick hands big hands a lot of control but also he was trying to yeah and he got away with a lot of too the refs got let him and car Malone get away with a lot of stuff in in Salt Lake City so here's the question what is it like running into a Carl Malone screen um I Tred to never do it for one but my goal put you in that pick and roll for sure but my goal I was just going to go under it every time I I was every time I played against John Stockon the game plan was to go under just to entice him to shoot the jump shot because if you try to go over the screen now he's in front of you and Carl Malone's rolling forget it right forget it 100% yeah but my goal was against Carl Malone I knew I wasn't getting over the screen there's no no my only goal was just to try to put my elbow right in his thigh every single time every time just maybe one time I hit him good and the next time he's going to come and screaming he was thinking about man is he going to put his elbow and if he moved it I baby both slide through there did it work nope nope Carl Malone bad boy yeah that yeah bro yeah Jerry Sloan too rest his SL Soul yeah man I think I would have like to play for Jerry Sloan I say that from the outside but once I got in them in that fire probably he and I probably would have Wrestled a lot yeah yeah you don't I don't think he'd let you be free no sir also guys Akash locks are back look I'm going be honest I didn't do great last week but I still believe in myself and that's what's important and even if you don't believe in me go to prize.com download the app use the promo code Schultz they will match your initial deposit up to $100 that means if you put in 100 you get 100 for free so you could trust my locks or don't who cares but here's my locks CD lamb more than 76.5 receiving yards he's been on a roll the Cowboys offense sucks without him I believe in that one I also think Joe Mixon will get a TD of some kind I just trust them who are the Bengals playing again miles hit me with it the Texans the Texans defense I don't really trust you could also potentially go Jamar Chase 84 and a half receiving yards more or less I don't know 84 and a half is high but I also know the Texans defense didn't look great last week and the CC Cincinnati offense did so those are my locks go to priz picks use them or don't either way you'll have fun it seemed like most of your coaches really let you flourish well I ain't had much Choice that's the other thing now when I got to Pat Riley in Miami I kind of people say you kind of settled it down a little bit what what was this different offense that you know we got Shaq we got dwade yeah you know those guys got to had a ball so you know we go down two or three trips and sha can't touch the ball he' be like hey I need the ball I'm like what Pat called 62 it don't matter is Pat out here that's not out here throw me the ball do do you think it's true that Pat saw what he had and then came down um I'm not so sure Pat was the president at the time Gundy was the head coach yeah for like two weeks six year yeah I don't know if if I don't think no I don't I don't think I don't think that's how it went down I think I don't know though yeah my opinion is maybe maybe maybe coach Van Gundy didn't really want to be in that situation any anymore and maybe went upstairs and talked to Pat well how can we how can we resolve this and Pat was like well shoot I know a way we could dissolve you that's what we could do yeah um so I think that's what happened did you hear I don't want to get you snitch on anybody so you don't have to answer this but did you hear grumblings from players like I don't know if this guy understand no I never I never heard that because um on that team bro all those Hall of Famers and players that they that we had was like anybody could coach that team right just had to tell us what time the bus was and what time the plane was so but no I wasn't I wasn't in that group of players I I wasn't ever in ever in that situation in my career where I was in those type conversations about anybody you know what I mean so no when you go to the heat do you notice one a distinct difference between what a championship team is and what you've been on before for sure and what is that um just they won a training camp in Miami our only goal was to win a championship whereas I think maybe when I play for Sacramento I I never really ever got that Vibe ever oh wow just I mean maybe just because it was sha and Kobe out there you're going up against the Shaq and Kobe Lakers so there's that and I don't honestly down deep I don't know if we really thought we were good enough to win a championship that winning a championship is hard man like in all levels bro it's like I heard you say this you said it twice on all the smoke you said I didn't we didn't understand what it really takes to win a championship then he said again what it really T what does it really take man it just takes it just takes so much it's going to be like so much more like fil everything on a different level from film to to I me you hear it all the time taking care of your body and things like that and yeah I'm NBA guys do what they do but but but but but come 7 o'cl they're going to be ready to play and it's just it's just the the ride to the championship is more enjoyable than I think actually winning it because it's just us 15 guys we've been together for over half a year we we we're with one another more than we are our families during the championship and you guys were locked in locked in bro who do you think you were closest with on that team I all 15 of I know it sounds cliche bro it does but I think that's what it takes man like I've been on a bunch of different teams and and a handful of them though like we can all go hang out and have dinner together like that's so rare and if you can do that off the off the floor and have that kind of relationship then on the floor when when when when push comes to shove you're definitely going to trust that guy because you already know what time it is you know what I mean let's talk a little bit about NBA players do what they do because they've loosened things a little bit like weed you can you know it's cool now and then we hear the stories of like the Bulls back in the day like the gambling and all that the partying and then coming straight from Vegas and all that stuff what is some of the craziest stories that we don't know about or thank you for finally asking that that's a good one man it's I mean that won't get you or anyone drun well I mean all the stories you hear are probably pretty much true right I mean NBA guys are just different like just just we don't know that but different in what way man just you have to name names what's the wildest thing you saw where you were like cuz you weren't party him really yeah no I didn't go out bro I didn't go to no clubs or anything like that but but for the heat though like when I played for the heat it was like you know sha and and dwade pretty big stars right you know so any City we go to they having a party one's having a party here having a party here they're having separate parties in the same city but but that party is going to revine oh boy at the hotel boy yeah so I mean and are there girls just waiting probably you know for sure like the NBA is like I I I don't I didn't get into that you know like I said I didn't go to clubs and anything like that but to answer your question absolutely really I mean it's just like every city cuz we would hear about the girls that would just like stop find your hotel find hotel Ali breaking off the uh the Bellman the bman say oh yeah the Spurs will be here Thursday to Saturday type you know what I mean so they know when they're coming what what was your nickname for D way again booby and why'd you call him that um what the Friday Night Lights yeah oh Friday if you want to win let booby spin that's i' tell Pat Riley we'd be down in fourth qut and D way on hey Pat you want to win you better put booby's ass back in Pat Riley was cool man cool as a fan yeah yeah I mean obviously as a Nick fan you know I mean he took his players what is the relationship and why is he looked at as The Godfather outside of his like hairstyle like explain what he does there's I mean he's just he's just looking out for the cookout man he takes care of his players and like the Miami Heat organization is the is the best organization I've ever been a part of like why top to bottom just because the way they treat their players the way they treat their family the way they treat anybody that needs to be treated some type of way it's just first class what are some of the things they do like say say the owner wants us to stay in um we go to Dallas he wants to stay at a let's just say a Motel 6 well Pat Riley ain't having that cuz Pat Riley if he was going to Dallas on his own he's not staying at a Motel 6 so we're going to stay at the rich Carlton order of Four Seasons wherever Pat stays that's what it's te and Pat will pick up the whatever the difference was from the hotel wow right so see these are things we don't hear about with Pat we hear it's like it's PAT system yeah you hear about heat culture heat culture is really letting the players know that if you buy in you are going to be 100% taken care of that's right family if you you're going to have a chance to win too right there always going to be a chance to win in Miami would you have like uh sit Downs with Pat no not not probably not cordial sitd Downs probably more like you know I'm getting in trouble type like what did you get in trouble for I mean you know it's just it's like he Pat wrote these things on the board like every game he would he would Mark players like if you're helps side D you get a point if you weren't you minus yeah that type so every morning we come in practice and and and Sh wow he's doing the plus minus before it's even a statistic in the league do you guys know what the plus minus statistic is it's basically you can explain I thought it was a stat at that point like if they're running a side pick and roll and your guy you're guarding the guy on the opposite side your job defensively is to be in the middle of the floor to be the help if you're not there you get a minus if you're there little thing like that the plus minus in the league now is just like while you're on the floor is your team scoring more points or less points on the other team but this is like an even more all the analytic you hear all B into B into that so next morning you know how much am I helping how much am I hurt that's accountability you get to look at a number easy and now I'm not being hard at you hard on you this is the thing that happened huh so every morning we come in and shat the way all five starters the last five he's preaching all year look Whoever has the highest numbers this year they're playing the minutes they're playing a minute Earl Baron remember Earl Baron y yeah his he had off the chart numbers but he only played average like like 3 minutes right oh we're playing we're playing the guys with the high numbers playing I'm like Pat you're talking out of both sides of your mouth what do you mean oh he didn't like that he didn't like that like you put all these numbers up here sha and dwade our best two players they're look they're garbage look but they they average 35 minutes a night so you need to take that the numbers mysteriously disappeared oh I don't think I think I think Coach Riley was like was the kind of guy like don't really like confrontation he likes dishing it but you know what I'm saying he doesn't want to push back I think I think he don't want even push back in front of people may he allow the push back in his office but but I'm the type of guy like it is what it is you know what I mean you're pushing forward in public I'm pushing back of course I mean why not right yeah and I think that sometimes he gets credit for reigning you in or whoever you played with the Miami Heap would you say that that was more of a decision you made based on the Personnel on the team for sure I mean it's just we didn't run many fast breaks cuz like I said earlier we got to slow the ball down and get the ball to D way and shot yeah I mean you know and again I'm not out on a fast break looking to throw behind the backe passes if it if it happens it happens like sometimes like if I'm swinging the ball if you got the ball there and I'm trying to get it over there and you swing it to me for me to take this pass and take it from here to here as opposed to here to there it's quicker yeah yeah so and like I said earlier if if if I take one more D if Ray Allen's open in the corner and I take one more dribble he's not open anymore you know what I mean so I he needs that ball right now cuz that Defender is good enough to uh respond NBA Finals probably less than a minute left Baseline jumper that you hit do you remember I do uh if we're looking at TVs down here in this corner biggest shot in your career that's that's to go up two game was tied it probably felt like the biggest shot I probably made bigger shots in my career maybe but I mean what could be bigger than NBA Finals is it the is it the game Ser is that the series ending game it might have been but I'm thinking not even a shot would be the biggest spot I remember coming down and I threw a behind I threw a behind the back pass to Alonzo Morning and Devin Harris is ass I looked at the film he just damn shooked me right into the cameras and they didn't call no foul but zo dunked it I think that that felt better to me because it felt like that just put him out of reach for sure okay okay so it wasn't just the it was it closed out the game yeah but still it was a ballsy shot I mean it I don't even know if it was end of the shot clock but I remember watching it I remember seeing you you weren't exactly open but you didn't even think about it like I said earlier I I initiate the offense and I stand in the corner and them dudes always told me if you get the ball in the corner toss that shoot it I'm not throwing it to you just to throw it to you yeah you know what I mean so I'm like you got it I'll fire it up how is Shaq as a teammate Shaq's great bro everything you see on Shaq on TV bro that's exactly how it is seems like the best not a fake at all dog I mean that is the way it is bro real as it gets and you guys would hang out like off the court we would he used to live in Orlando too but he sold his his house there in Orlando since he's working for Turner I guess he's in Atlanta now but yeah man that's that dude there bro there's not a better human being in this whole wide world than Shaq man really I'm telling you man wa why did you say that just because he's just always looking out for everyone like I mean you see the stories being at Walmart or whatnot and seeing a family with five people whatnot he he end up buying him a van you know what I mean that kind of stuff beast but not for YouTu yeah sneakers would sell at Walmart or whatnot for like 30 bucks made cheaper so it yeah yeah that's that's the real Shaq man that that's not a facade bro you see on TV from Shaq that's who he is that's who he is man how different was his physical ability from the Lakers to the heat oh cuz you played with him and then against him yeah I I didn't see much maybe his athleticism maybe a little bit he didn't jump as high but sha is the most dominant player to ever play basketball to me it made him change the rules to his Zone yeah I mean yeah it's like like you can't stop that dude oneon-one and then you send a double team down which is usually a little guy like me forget it he not seeing none of that bro he going to eat all this on the way yeah yeah do you have any stories where Shaq helped someone out that people don't know that that you saw where you're like oh he picked up a tab here or did something for someone no I never seen I I like I said I didn't really go out things like that so I wasn't ever in that situation H yeah what about the greats what about the greats great greatest you've played with against like who are the people that you remember you're like reflecting and you know you hear obviously names Kobe Dwayne like every night man it was like a dream come true for me bro like remember Speedy Claxton yeah of course bro like people ask me all the time who's the hardest dude to guard and Speedy Claxton was like Stony Brook right hofra or hofra Long Island I knew it was a long school yeah like they were really like when he played in Golden State he had Speedy Clon was a bro and he had four white dudes that could shoot right they were really the first team that really ran four guys out and just shooting thre so they ran a high pick and roll with Speedy claxon they had dun leevy and uh and uh Troy uh Murphy oh wow bro and that high picking roll was Speedy he was so fast and if he got around you it was a layup and then if he if if the help came it just spraying it for three so when people ask me like who was one of the hardest people I had to guard when I say Speedy CL and they're like Speedy CL you know I mean what about underrated player it doesn't mean you have to guard him but just in general who's the person you don't think gets enough flowers but I'm G to say Andre Mill In My Time Andre Andre Miller dude bro like he didn't even lace his shoes up tight like he would like this he old school like take his Sho string around his ankle and then time in the front Okay and this be so loose and it's like his game was so awkward and it's like like if you watched it from afar You' think he was garbage yeah but at the end of night you look at the stat sheet and he out like 27 and he played for a while 12 12 like unbelievable so that's my answer like and a lot eight out of 10 folks aren't even going to know who Andre Miller is yeah I feel like you were playing while the league was transitioning to like I would say a softer league right but do you feel like right now versus when you've started is the league soft I don't want to use the word soft I just want to say I think the league has made it more offensive you kind of take the defense out of the game incentivized the offense corre they don't want to see flagrant foul you know FL fouls they get F and then you know they going to review and all that like just let the refs let the refs ref they they're going to miss calls yeah you know just like players are going to miss shots right let them be human like um so to answer your question I don't think it's softer I think the players are still physically and and physically dominant more than any other sport you know what I mean I think I think NBA athletes are are the best athletes in the world I could I'm not being biased I just think that those guys have a better chance to crossing over to a different sport and being successful easier than say a football or hockey or baseball guy coming to play basketball I could be wrong that's just my opinion you know what I mean sorry you play for the heat you guys were talking about it you're down 02 you're down 14 in the fourth I'm a Mavs fan I'm ready I think it's over yeah what happens is there something in that huddle I heard Pat Riley just wrote season on the Whiteboard during a timeout did does any of that stuff matter or is it just it's not true he wrote he wrote like he wrote I don't remember the exact words but it was like something along the lines I'm only packing one tie one suit after this game during the timeout when you're down 14 yeah wow yeah I mean he could have just meant you're getting swept it was close it was close oh believe me I know that timeout killed him man I'm telling you that time out was all downhill wait wait what what happened well it was a free throw they we were shooting a free throw no they were shooting a free no we were shooting a free throw and there was like 8 seconds or something like that left I think I remember this yet and they only had one timeout left so they would wait till after the second foul shot to call a timeout and then they Advance the ball and take it out up there on on the front court so Avery Johnson was like we want to time out after the you know well what was his name uh D I forget his name he Josh Josh something Josh Howard Josh Howard yeah he was looking at Avery Johnson's calling one a timeout after the after the second free throw well Josh I remember this Crawford the referee didn't have any choice but he got to call he got to blow the whistle and call the timeout right now so now they're out of timeouts they can't Advance the ball and you know they got to race up the floor like six seven seconds and get a bad shot wow H is Joey Crawford as mean as everybody says no I think he was fair man even Scott Foster the guy that got in uh not Scott Foster the Don yeah he gave y that Championship too gave gave it was fair you know honestly I thought he was one of the better refs in the league bro I I never would imag people are gambling on you looking back this guy's making all the calls everybody saying is a piece of that's right and and look back on it it's easy for a referee to gamble CU if you call if you call two quick fouls on Shaq in the first quarter now he got to sit out the rest of that half so you might have over under in the first half or or whatever you know that's really interesting you can change the game two little calls yeah two little calls you take 10 minutes off a sha playing or or a technical early on on on on Draymond Green in the first quarter now he got to play the rest of the game without cautious he's not talking back he's not into it so you could change the game yeah it's not about waving off a shot it's not about waving off you can change the game the first I feel like he's the only one who got caught yeah cuz that's cuz other guys might have danced yeah cuz how much are these guys getting paid that's the other thing they got a lot of responsibility for not making a lot of money yeah and usually when there jobs where you have a lot of responsibility and you aren't getting paid according to that responsibility there's some corruption for sure like you see that with cops a lot right like all all all aspects of Life bro there's levels to everything and everything right and and what about like vets like did you think the Vets get a little bit nicer treatment I don't say the Vets I think guys the stars for sure yeah I mean and did you get a little like did you don't think them referee was them [Laughter] referees I love I love them all had a good relationship with all of them but I didn't get nothing no no nothing what did you want what did you think I mean I just just wanted to be fair Meck push me just call a foul yeah I mean a a little push on me is sending my L ass way over there and then you know you breathe on Steph Curry or what this this thing a star's name you know they get the foul call right I don't like that now I understand that he going to get more calls than me but godamn throw me a bone every now and then you get into it with a ref of course I did I remember like it was yesterday was in Dallas and back of their older Arena their old arena pay back yeah it's like you had to you had to both teams exited the same same side down there on that end but our the visiting bench was the way M most most most teams come out of the locker room and their bench is right there so I'm in into it with Bob Delaney I'm in his I mean I'm in like and he's like yeah keep on going and when you're done let me know then we're going to throw you out of here so I'm like all right well it I kept on going a little bit longer than expected right and he said are you done I said yeah I'm done he said Bang all right now you're out of here and I'm still cussing I'm walking towards my bench going to the locker room right matter how I got kicked out cussing him the whole way la la la and I get down there and I realize I got to walk all the way so I mean I didn't have no I didn't have no choice but to just start cussing him back on walking on back down there but yeah that that was probably the coolest that was coolest one he saw me walking out of there and gave me a big hug after the game it was good your boy Nick was telling me when you were playing a menley you got into it the rough one time no men Ley I get into refs man like one time you maybe you were running at him well I would there's multiple wait a minute awesome these referees in these men's league they have no idea right they're just happy really happy to see me I'm let's just keep it they're happy to be ref in my game right so these refs start cheating and I would just get start cheating you're an NBA player playing with guys that work at UPS I ain't got nothing to do with that though just just because I worked a little harder my ball handle doesn't mean you know a foul is a foul okay and now I'm I'm to the point now back it up a little bit we just talking about the stars getting call I'm the goddamn star now finally I should get it and they're thinking the opposite way no you're not they're thinking like you I'm play in the NBA you can foul the out of me well what type of is that that's like the point that's like the argument that's like the argument when people talk about LeBron and Jordan yeah they talk about what the the the bad boy Pistons beat LeBron Jordan up LeBron couldn't handle well no that you you're you're saying that the bad boy Pistons was good because they just took you right out a that doesn't make them good but anyway back to the recck Le so the referees are cheating whatever and I get to the point where i' get the ball full speed and the ref I'd run right to full speed and esap like dodging right at the last minute he's you know backing up downam near falling but I don't think that was the best one I think the best one we're in Miami so all the fast he cross up the at any time I got the ball the ref I'm running right at the ref trying to trying to run him over yeah he tripped him the ref tripped oh man no you dropped a ref with a cross bro like I said earlier hell with these refs on on all levels you break the ref ankles imagine having handle so good you break the ref that's crazy the best one of them in Miami I got two good ones okay we got time for two we have we got to get ni we got get so look we're playing Miami in in the summer leue I'm playing with Tim Hardway senior he's the great he's like that crossover was he's like my idle now when it comes to referees so we're playing he gets kicked out of the game it's like we got we're three minutes into the game he gets kicked out he's got the ball with him won't let nobody have the ball so he's like y'all want the ball you know how to ball he done laced his shoes up on the way out he unplugged a scoreboard bom bom from the scores table took that with him so nobody else could play the rest of the night I was like hold hold on if I could have that scoreboard signed by like Hardway bro that would I thought this was an NBA game you're this is a record so Taking My Ball I'm going home they took the scoreboard wait how many X NBA guys are hooping in this league oh it's a pretty good League oh so this is high high pretty good League yeah so it's my turn to next week I'm in the same referee Tim's not there you got to set out a again right so no no fine though no no money NOS good so we're same referee cheating us we're down cheated bro we we're down we can't win it's like we're down five with like 4 seconds okay but it's our ball okay call timeout just to piss the refs off to get going so like tell the guys like just do whatever you want I'm going to bring the ball inbounds so ref hands me the ball and I don't know if y'all know ref's got the whistle in his mouth and soon as he hands the inbound to the ball he's going to count you only got five seconds to bring it in so he's one two and I'm like ah I already know what I'm going to do nobody knows though ref standing right there with the whistle so when he gets to five he's goingon to blow his whistle called p uh uh delay a game whatever he gets to four and gets about right there Bo I yanked the whistle out of it so now no but he standing there like like what you gonna do what you going do so so he was like that's the game that's the game game over that was my favorite one you love this re league so NBA guys just go to rec league to torture refs cuz they could never do it in the league well no no no going tort the rest if they try to act like they know what they're doing gotta they got no clue they got playing The Big Three did that's the I played the first year yeah and I I tore I tore to ACL the first half of the first game what happened you know what man I was just it was crazy man I was just dribbling I did a jump trying to cross over a ref N Them refs would it wasn't full court so they wasn't in my way okay like I just jump stopped bro and it just felt like my knee felt like it kept going yeah it started burning is bad news were you warmed up for it had you had knee problems before like I'm just never had an injury before of uh I mean I twisted an ankle there never significant injury did you have the was it Ood schlatters or whatever that is called like you used to wear those little uh I wore those little little fluke things because Vince Carter wore them and I thought m h maybe I'll start jumping a little bit higher start wearing son I started wearing them cuz you were wear and then I couldn't play without him no yeah I I think I got so used to him playing um but I mean I thought they look cool too I thought this was a health thing cuz I would have sometimes when you growing when you're younger you you can get some pain right yeah but they didn't help me but I was like ah Jason got it I was just trying to jump like Vince oh that's so funny this rec league was mostly like X NBA guys but apparently there were some current NBA guys that might also play in the recck league is that true um like uh maybe if you were playing for the magic would you ever sometimes go play oh yeah was like to the point where my last you brought ringers to the men's Rec leag just me he's the ringer so I'm I'm on while you were playing I'm on the Magic's roster right and and they they started they signed Chris Duan to be their backup gave him some money yeah I love Chris dhan bad decision Orlando Magic you know how the Heat's the best organization in the world Orlando's the worst what don't tell me that bro tell Chris like to throw him back too Chris is my guy I ain't mad at Chris at all go get all that bread but that organization you ever you you guys see the garbage truck driving around right you see the juice that's dripping from the back that's the magic don't say not the organization not the team not the team not the organization like the organization just got the wrong people running it man that's my opinion what do I know yeah you know what I mean I just I just and you got some money out of them I'm just yeah I mean I'm just I'm just putting levels you know the heat is here I can only do what I I can only tell you what I know right yeah and it just what was so bad it's just no care about the players no or or or or players that that have been through there too they don't even care about I could call Miami I could call Memphis I could call Sacramento yeah and we all could go to the game and we all sitting on the floor but you live in Orlando I'm right there I've been trying to get to Orlando since day one back let's rewind all the way back to the beginning of my draft Chuck D did I tell you this story rest his soul he was the coach of the magic and me I wanted to go to get drafted by the magic my year but they had 11th pick I knew it wasn't going to make it that far so we had Bry Bryce Drew remember Bryce Drew from Val Val preo hit that shot and then Dove on the floor in the NCAA tournament no okay another white dude he's another white dude about my size we went down there and worked out one time and um I did my thing against Bryce drew that day and and their general manager called my agent back and said we'd like to bring Jason and Bryce back in we didn't know who was more athletic well that lit a fire under my ass cuz that's another reason to Magic organiz that how could they not know oh my God this is like it's night night and day so we go back we set it up sure let's set that up told ma let's set that up so they're thinking about driving Bryce Drew before me you crazy right so we go in we go in the workout before the workout starts I'll go with Chuck says come here he says look I know who's more athletic I know who's more talented they want to do this we're going to play one-onone right from the Geto I I got a tea time in in an hour let's have this thing over in about 20 minutes I said yes sir how long how long Bryce Bryce young Bryce Drew got a better chance pissing in a hot sauce bottle I'm telling you ain't no chance now what what happens to those guys in their workout they're fighting for their life and you're cooking them oh they like I said does they get chippy or they uh they just melt it's probably the same way as like when I got to try to guard Russell Westbrook that's the way I feel like am I going to do yeah what happens with Russ you just got to hope he misses and you just backing off just trying to get a hand in his face if I get a hand in your face like Allen Iverson if I get a hand up and you make that jump shot what can coach say that's right now my big guy's not mad at me from coming over to help not getting in foul trouble yeah let's go back down what the hell yeah wow so Orlando sucks huh to me man it's just the organ so so they got the players they got the talent they got all kind of talent but you would play rec league and oh yeah back to the story so so back then when they signed Chris du on I was out of the rotation so i' be in practice all day or whatnot I'm like well I got we got a game at semma direct I go we practice from like 2:00 to 4:00 and then I go play in the men's league at 700 so o uh G uh uh what's her name they're paying you yeah millions of dollars and then you're playing for free that's right OD Smith was the general manager at the time called my agent like hey look Dan he can't be playing in a uh in the recck legs he say well he got to get his run somewhere you know what I mean and I always had a like I don't know how many guys if they still have it like a For the Love of the Game clause in a contract so oh yeah can you explain that so if something like I'm driving home from practice or something I see a pickup game and I want to go hoop you can do it right if I get hurt I'm still got to get my bread yeah there's a there's a there's a contractual I guess uh permission to play whenever you want you I thought they stopped that like when when you saw Kobe started playing in like street ball leagues and then they were like yo we got to chill all out cu if you get hurt well I think I think like like the Drew Le and things like that or Rucker Park or whatever those cars or like if they get NBA sanctioned then you can do where the NBA can come in and check out the facilities and like like the floor make sure all that you know Park was yeah yeah like I don't know if Rucker Park was I don't know what the rules were did you ever play up there no I was just talking how the did bro I wish I would have um we were talking about rid I've never even been there I want to go step foot on the r what about what about Drew no they they tried to get me play later on in my career but it was I didn't have what Drew Le fat crowd wanted you know what I mean I feel like you do oh yes you have exactly that I feel like M's the skip you're a little like but outside of that I think you would have what they wanted I think you that's another thing like the black and white issue like once you get on the court bro if if if the BR or the white boys can see that you hoop they didn't care what color you were so you know what's funny there like I think that there's all this credit like that you were hooping like a black dude but I don't know any black dudes in the NBA that were hooping like you I think we saw street ball but if you were playing in such a unique way that it was always really funny to me that people that's the ultimate Street you play like street ball of course 100% but it was like even the name white chocolate yeah right it was as if like every other black dude was playing like like this and it's like no they weren't like and even when raford came into the league raford wasn't getting off like he would get off in and one yeah I don't know if I don't know if raer had the opportunity you didn't have the opportunity you just did the well I mean I like like when I got drafted you know I was the only point guard on the team so I had to I had the keys I was going to rock he let me rock and Rick Adam and shout out to Rick Adam my coach for Sacramento he told me in first game he said you know if you come down and and and throw a behind the back pass and it goes out of bounds he said don't worry about it next time try with your left hand so so here and that kind of like first time you've ever heard that from a coach probably well I mean or maybe maybe I was told I wasn't listening I I was going to do what I wanted to do did that with you a little bit or did it put a battery in your back to I think it kind of put a battery in back cuz it's kind of like hey look he got my back man he's like like he knows I'm trying to win so whatever whatever I got to do to win that's what I'm going to try to do yeah did you ever have like you obviously have all these amazing passes and assists did you ever have one that was embarrassing where you're like yo I'm going to do one behind the back and just went all the way up in the stands and you like a I'll probably have more than one but try not to remember them you know um I probably more so in practice like in practice I didn't really care you know like it was back to the point like if I mess up so many times what you going to do make me run what that's this going to benefit me so I'm thinking yeah because at the end of practice we're going to run as a team but I ain't going to run as hard as if I got in trouble I'm over here running by myself because I'm going to try to run hard and get back in the game you know me at the end of practice I don't care about that that's cool perspective you can't punish me cuz it's just going to like yeah saying like now all these high school kids like going to school on Tuesdays and Thursdays and home school and stuff like that where was that when I was around man I would have been somebody if I had could hoop all day every day yeah you know what I mean guys we got to take a break real quick because you need to try to get tickets to the UFC and you can try to get them for free with Morgan and Morgan look we all know Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury Law Firm they've recovered over $15 billion for their clients and we know submitting a claim is free and E easy but did you know that it's also you should if you're a fan of the show but did you know that it's also an official Law Firm partner of the UFC and they are giving away two tickets to UFC 296 to see Leon Edwards and Colby Covington go to battle in Las Vegas $22,000 free tickets Vegas that's a party entering the win is easy just text flagrant to four the number four the people for the record that's 484 373 6742 text flagrant to that 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whatever how about the I don't want to play for Donald Sterling Ru how about that well there some stuff went down you know and and over to summer I sign you go chocolate but yeah I think I think that was the best thing happened for me is not to go to La probably I mean definitely I was going to play for the not that it mattered about the money but I was going to play for the leue minimum on that deal and by the time my wife and my kids got out there and we rented a house and shopping and all that I'd have been in the red bro so it's probably wow so did you tired because you didn't want to go to the franchise cuz you were done you felt like you were injured or like what brought you back of ultimately um I just I I think maybe Michael Hasley was the owner God Rest his soul he was the owner of the Grizzlies would paid me my first big contract my only really big contract um what was that one worth like 40 something million how does that feel it felt great like I mean it ain't today but but it can you rationalize it I mean like does it even make sense it doesn't it didn't make any sense like like your grandma's giving you a dollar and all your boys a dollar to get go and in that moment as a kid you're like I'm the richest guy on the planet you couldn't tell me nothing and then you get a 40 how much 40 like 43 or something 43 million contract W it was it was and they didn't really have to do it you know my agent was like he told it was like on a Friday they they were having discussions like uh uh Friday he called me and it's like they're going to offer you 40 million but uh I said but to what but what he said we're going to wait till Monday maybe I get you some more and I'm I'm thinking well what if they changed their mind yeah you know what I mean were there other offers out there you never know well that happens you saw that happened with um the German kid yeah what what if what if the owner's buddy comes and say man why would you sign that kid for that when you can get him for this you given him three days to think about it yeah bro what's the kid's name who uh he played great in the Fe the black German kid I can't believe oh Dennis schroer schroer was offered he turned it down he turned down now is he tur it down or is his agent advising him hey turn this down we have something else and then he ends up getting a contract worth a fraction dude there was a guy played for the heat Anthony Carter there was like an option on his deal for like 25 million and his agent forgot to make the call to pick up the option or whatever something like that and then he lost 20 million in the '90s bro yeah I don't think it's the agent's fault you need personal accountability at the end of the day though you're the guy yep you're working for me 100% you need person accountability but I do understand a kid who's never been offered that kind of money and all these people telling them oh we got a deal coming in from this team and that team you can kind of get lost in it okay so you get your 43 you do you sign it that Friday or do you wait till Monday wait till Monday oh that must have been terrifying that weekend I'd rather him not even told me that you know what I mean cuz if the deal wasn't there on on on Monday Bill poot gets his ass whooping yeah right no choice absolutely so you get it and then is there a first purchase do you like tell your friend it's public knowledge but like do you feel like you have to share that info with your family like what is the first thing that happens I'm thinking so yeah for sure my dad my dad and I were close so he knows every he's kind of really if it wasn't for he signed my agent for me really he chose my agent I would have been I would have took the first 5,000 you gave me from any agent and I'd have been stuck to you know so he knew what time it was with that so he interviewed different agents and picked this one I would have never picked this agent that I had not never because he his personality wasn't like what I wanted or he and I were totally different but but you needed that he was great yeah he was great think about that he connects you with Nick you hooping with Orlando yeah wow yeah wow and how how'd your dad know all this was he like a businessman my dad was a state policeman in West Virginia man oh wow um No Nonsense kind of guy and that you know when I when I got in trouble smoking weed at Florida oh I was more worried about him and his what his friends were going to think of him like you've been a state police for 20 something years and and now your son's smoking pot or whatever you know like how's that going to make him feel some type of way yeah did he I think it hurt him for sure um but everything worked out bro could he who he was a good player he was a twin he had a twin he was he was a more allaround player but but his twin brother was a better shooter better scorer um but yeah they were good players they they couldn't receive a scholarship because they played in some kind of men's league growing up and received like a a check or some money or yeah so that's also probably where he was like you got to be wise have the right guy okay so 43 what do you buy first thing I bought was a Range Rover okay yeah I mean I grew up in a trailer trailer in West Virginia bro like I never had a house till I got in the NBA yeah but wow you couldn't tell me nothing man and you got the range yeah I bought some cars and things like that but I never really splurged on like anything dumb I'm sure there was some dumb stuff like a big ass earring or some big old you know Diamond number or something like that it wasn't dumb then you know what I mean yeah but you managed the money well oh yeah I'm good with that you know I mean I know you got other Investments yeah things like that I've been pretty cool with that you know yeah just living life now man yeah we were talking about Orlando and this has kind of been a news a topic in the news gay players in the NBA yeah H like is that something that's going down do people know about it does it Orlando had uh no what's his name John he were one of the first ones that come out yeah he was yeah he was the guy does that throw off chemistry on a team like does a team not want to get Collins brother yeah we always talk about how hard that is for the other brother yeah cuz they're twins and nobody knows which until it's too late Jason and jar you got to come with a hairstyle deal or something right go team for sure it's definitely there's definitely gay players in the NBA and there like there's probably gay players in all sports right gay guys in this room maybe you never know never know and and and ain't nothing wrong with being gay right know I mean sh that's what you want to do but but Dwight would take you guys on shopping spree right wouldn't he thewi man he would take us on shopping spres looking back on that are you like what man looking back on that I don't even know what's going on with that situation or what's real and what's not but all I can say is BR is one of the most dominant basketball players ever yeah me top for short for sure um he would strap him on and just Big D he was the D player of the year No but three times three times um but but back to your question D though shout out Dwight bro your life should be top 75 I don't care what's going on out there or over there top I don't think there's enough attention played especially to the early partner career no that's Superman bro yeah Superman it's crazy we gonna get back to the answer that yeah yeah like how many guys played there only been like 52 5300 dudes yeah that's played in the NBA since its existence did y'all know that yeah so he how many guys can you name that can change a game the outcome of a game without scoring a basket how many Bill Russell okay Dwight Howard yeah Shaq if he wants to um who else just those three right there come on bro maybe Wilt like you you're looking at like big guys rebound defense a little bit you Draymond in Ben Wallace AIT oh Ben Wallace yeah but but I hear you yeah that's what I'm saying so like I just like I said all the other that he got going on in his life I don't know what's cracking over there but and he was doing it with distraction too that's the other thing like most most players get to just focus on the game he's got to not think about how hot everyone is come on that's Superman bro that's Superman Superman come on you're right hey look live your life bro but I I never when I played with him in Orlando bro I never never got that Vibe you know what I mean I never I mean but everybody that I've heard has said that he is the most generous sweet teammate like is in shape is working out you know in shape usually this guy's crazy come on bro players I'm talking NBA players about NBA players are in shape dude come on for the most part yeah absolutely but back to your question though like for sure I think I don't think it messes with chemistry like if you if you got Championship aspirations like realistically look at it like at the beginning of every year in every sport not just basketball there's three or four or five teams that realistically have a chance to win a championship that year right like you know like the vi I'm a viking fan they they can't win a championship this year you know what I mean or like the magic they if they're down there in their locker room thinking about Championship this year they're bullshitting themselves right you know what I mean seriously um so so when it comes to that if if if if if a gay guy is on a team that has Championship aspirations during those two hours for that game it ain't going to affect the team at all in my opinion because he knows what time it is the gay guy knows what time it is when he gets on that court because he knows what these guys want to accomplish and if and he he got some coming in these guys ain't going to allow that cat that I'm sure you heard Stephen A speculate that's why Dwight didn't get signed because of that like do you think that would really stop a player from getting signed me personally no if I was an owner owner of a team I'm trying to win so if if if you can help me win I'm signing you bro like like all this hoopla about Colin Kaepernick and things like that I'm sure he can still play but I think I think if he was good enough to help an NFL team win he'd be on the team they would deal with all the other they had to deal with later yo I heard an interesting thing about a Cam Newton because the the cam thing was is he good enough to be a backup yeah the but the problem is Cam ain't a backup and a buddy of M Derrick poon was talking remember we were talking to Dereck about this and he was like yeah cam is in a backup and he's going to just attract so much attention on that team that the second to starting quarterback has an off game all of a sudden all the media is talking about hey why don't you put cam in so it puts this pressure on on the team that is unnecessary and looking at it like that I was like oh it's not like Hoops it it Hoops is a little different you want to Stack your team you want you will get time injuries and all that yeah yeah there's no backup quarterback that rotates in and out I think if you got a guy like Pat Riley running the show he sees that before coming in before I'm signing Cam Newton you know I mean he sees that and he's already telling the media look if you write this you won't be in our locker room you won't get no more interviews oh can Pat control that like tagger say Tagger Tagger yeah Pat Riley controls what what if Pat Riley wants something he's getting it really so he is the Godfather right and the players fall in line with that they respect it or what is it yeah they respect it because he respects them like he's taking care of he's protecting them he's taking care he putting you up at the Four Seasons instead of the Motel 6 you know what I mean do you wish you had play for him earlier um no not really because I don't think I'd have been who I was was mhm cuz he's you know what I'm saying he's like it's tight leash yeah he's not going to no fast breaks it's more half court ball M you know what I mean I can't yeah I can't imagine defensive too defensive minded they got to average more defensive three seconds than any team in the in the history of the NBA I mean they want you and they dare the referee to call it dare you to call it really why because they're just sitting in that paint yeah and the referees that's Pat R over there you think he intimidates even ref for sure but ref's get back at him too now ja you remember Steve ja we're in Cleveland we're on like a four or five game Road Trip getting our asses handed to us it's like the second quarter we're down 25 already Pat Riley gets a technical two minutes later he's trying to get another technical Steve Javy comes over during time out he says hey Pat if I got to watch this tonight so are you you ain't getting kicked out tonight God that's great wow I I always say I want to write a book but if I wrote a book bro i' had to name names and stuff like that and that would take away my relationships with people and stuff like that because I've got so many stories like I could tell like you guys would love them man tell us man tell us I can't I can't I can't I can't put my guys out there you can take a name we can bleep name we we could bleep if it makes you more comfortable I just love the like the information age we're living in like cuz you see there's so many guys that have like played in the league and they have these incredible stories from what goes on but I think I'm a little different than most because I'm so infatuated like like I said ear look at myself like I get to sit down beside Gary Peyton on a bus yeah that's amazing to me like I get to talk to Lonzo morning yeah or Shaquille O'Neal or Dwayne Wade or or get to try to guard Russell like that's crazy to me like I get to do that bro like I don't look at myself like like I'm looking at them dudes like those dudes are like Heroes to me bro like Allan Aon like Allan Aon G me that bro that's like crazy what have you ever had an imposter syndrome say again like did you feel like did you feel that you belonged in the league I based on play yeah you yeah based on play but like like what I thought of the NBA and what I've heard of the NBA like I I don't I'm not you know like going to clubs and things like that I'm not against any of that but as just wasn't my wasn't my thing you know what I mean so that part of it I thought maybe i' I'd have maybe not fit in and and maybe guys look sideways at me but like I said earlier once you get on the floor and you can hoop bro nobody cares what but nothing is what happened what happened with g P did you guys ever have a convo about it no but I've been around the convo when it was happening you know it was uncomfortable the first one you know can you give us the breakdown for sure we get to Miami you know I get traded to Miami and then they sign him in the off season 2 and I'm thinking I'm well the play think okay okay okay okay so so we're getting there you know I I get I'm coming to work out he's just getting done with his press conference cuz he just got he just got he signed there as a free agent he got on the freshest Air Force ones too like like fresh you know I get I'm like oh man that's Gary paint like like I'm getting like whoa and I already got that in my pocket like is he feeling some type of way at me CU I did that because he was talking so much to me that game like like I was terrified yeah like I'm not can you tell them what you did can we tell the fans what you did just just a refresher the the move I mean cross I mean well I think that that what doesn't they even go one play back yeah what doesn't set that up is the one play before that I hit one from like Steph Curry range you know what I mean and Gary didn't step out no he didn't step out he was just yeah he just trying to keep me out of the paint which got no chance and Gary pton the glove got no I'm like I said before this is I don't remember what part of the game it was but up to this point he's talking mad to me like I'm like what's he saying what's he say like like white boy this all you Ain I'm like oh like is he serious like right I never been in no racial tension at all and and he's call me just I'm like who like Florida at Florida you know the football boys I killer Fred Taylor but they call me white boy I I knew what time it was with him cuz I done blew it down with them and we done you know what I mean that was cool um but this was like I don't know this guy and he's like is he serious like does he really hate me cuz I'm white type you know what I mean like like I'm just out here hooping I don't want to do nothing I don't want to you know you're my idol type is he bringing up history is he talk just talking like like wishing I would say something and I I could like every time he said something there I could like he's looking at me like yeah I wish you would that's like all other players playing in Boston acted uped up boy a whole lot of that yeah yeah so but C Webb's taking my he got my back he talking for me blah blah blah so C Webb is talking back to for sure like gp's like yeah I wish he would and then I'm like and then I hit that 30-footer and then next time come down and he had to step up and it was and I didn't really notice that he tried to I don't even know if he's still I don't people say try to fake you fake like you're going to pull up fake like a little hesy and then this it really wasn't really like a big crossover like like like Allen iers or anything like I would want to do yeah was just like a he and and if I'm he bit on it hard if you just like leaning from that corner a little bit if you just look your eyes you're beat if I'm full speed you're beat yeah and he he just kind of leaned that way and off I went that way and he stuck his leg out he tried to trip you for sure he tried to trip me but uh GP that's my guy yeah um that was nothing intentional yeah uh I mean it was you intentionally cross the he was talking harsh to me so so you see him so we see him down there we see him in the white Air I see him come out of his press conference I go and I'm like I don't know how this is going to go but I'm going to go show my love for sure that's respect whatever and I go over and I step on his Air Force One no Jason yeah come on bro yeah that that wasn't an accident I'm thinking for sure if he don't swing on me his homie swinging so you kind of just played it off blah blah blah but then everything was cool there when we get on the first road trip something brought up on the bus about who who brings it up you know was Shaq know shq okay so G GP took it like a man know you like yeah you know everybody's going to get got right you know especially like it's like shot blockers Lonzo morning's going is going to try to block every shot but he goingon to get ymed on get yamed on every now but he's going to block a lot of them you know just ask Vince Carter you know so uh but GP took it like a man like yeah everybody gets got I'm sure I'm sure there's other plays that GP got crossed up or or beat on you know what I mean so just I think it was gp's face afterwards also because it wasn't angry I'm going go knock this kid out or something like that it was all right you got me I think that as like a a fan watching it's nice when there's like mutual respect against competitors yeah you know what I mean but since that since that move not one word has been said to me really that's my guy though to the end bro like he's the one of the I was fortunate enough to have great teammates but he ranks right up there bro like really fabulous dude bro I mean fabulous I wish he was here right now bro harsh competitor harsh yeah at everything he wants it wait what like what else what El pool bro pool like anything you're doing flipping pennies cards and he does everything left-handed he only thing he does right-handed is hoop everything left-handed wow wow yeah man that's interesting Gary pton man one of the baddest dudes ever lay him up what about the uh what about the games that you guys are playing outside of basketball so like you know you're on the bus you're on the plane or whatever like that is it cards like what is everybody getting competitive about just depends you know definitely a card game going on team you know it could be buay here it could be well I we call it in between like AC duy where you flip up a card here and then flip up another card and you bet how much money of the pot with the next one will be in between those M hence in between yeah um but they'll put like six decks in there you know what I mean when we got on the plane we get an envelope full of PM we went on eight day trip it' be a lot of money right so everybody just gambles the P well yeah but the rookies they throw that in there and then rookies lose that PRM Bo they want they want to jump out of the plane right away um I never played in those games I'll would be the dealer oh you didn't gamble I didn't gamble cuz I I you going to lose you don't really have any vices is that was frustrating when they were trying to put the weed thing on you cuz it's like yo I'm I'm not partying I'm not chasing like I'm not doing any of this stuff and I'm smoking a little weed yeah like and now the drug guy and now I'm the bad guy who doesn't care about the rules and and and it's not like it was performance enhancing if anything we the opposite I'm thinking right with Hoops yeah right I'm thinking like what what's worse than me smoking a blunt or VL smoking a cigarette cigarette I mean he was he was smoking what in his room yeah cuz he smoking cigarettes that's going to that's going to mask the weeds smell all day all day come on down see you were helping his fly to the fourth quarter he's throwing up K plus I'm in I me he he ordered a room service too cuz he got more bread than me so we put that on his room D is that a thought like even though you're in the NBA you're still like uh money conscious a little bit I mean I think so I mean if you're smart what's the rookie contract what's the rookie contract I think now like a vet like a you were in the yeah you I don't know probably probably let's see five years at probably two three four five six and it it was five years they would lock the rookies in and now it's what three with an option right right go go oh my God so you they'd lock you in for five years oh so I mean getting that first getting a pick oh man and he was a seventh pick too so he had a pretty good contract relative to the second round pick but I mean you're completely changing franchise in two ways you can add vets and spend on vets right kind of like a quarterback you get a rookie quarterback you ain't got to ex yeah exactly yeah oh okay so so you're thinking going into it because your agent's getting some your manager's getting some obviously you know taxes you're sending some money back home just an agent no manager really yeah and what does an agent take in uh mostly can takes 4% but he's going to take up to what I tell him but I gave him 4% I mean right you give me this I get a% BR yeah like endorsement deals he could take maybe that that's different whatever y'all work out right right cuz I heard endorsement sometimes it could be up to like 20% something crazy yo did you get a Nike shoe was there a Shoe coming up that was another rumor you had a shoe um I don't know if it was it wasn't actually my shoe I don't so say so so to speak but they put me in it that hyperight yeah it was a it wasn't for my foot horrible bro for my too yeah there no no no support yeah it felt like he was just in like old pair of wrestling yeah it was right yeah but but they made you wear them you had to the purple ones remember yeah and then back then when I played your team had to wear all black or all white it had to be 4951 yeah or you got fined I'm like well what we going to do here these are all purple the whole thing we'll pay the we'll pay the find they did the Jordan ship yeah yeah okay so so there was never supposed to be a shoe that was yours that was the rumor you were getting a shoe no I don't think so I never heard it I mean Nike had you front and set on some of those commercials there's that shot of you running back down court wooing it's just like that one with the dribbling where they had squeaking a s that that that guy really sat there and squeak his sneakers on the floor to make yeah bro was craziest ever wow what what what is the best sneaker today yeah for for you in your time oh man them Kyrie bro you like the kyries you don't like the Kyrie later on my career LeBron it was it was the favorite for me because right out of the box it felt like I've been wearing it for 3 weeks so big it's such a I figured you would want like a small slim shoe you know I had to put my orthotic in the shoe my orthotic was big and sturdy and hard you know what I mean so it didn't matter I was quick as a hiccup bro I was getting where I need to go yeah yeah the um yeah what are your thoughts on on on Kyrie's game the best offensive package ever you think he's up there for sure he's up there uh it'd be hard to put him at the best it's because of his his jump shots not like that's right that's right yeah um but but ball handling he's the top as it gets for me yeah he's the best ball handler ever and and why just because I think not only that he can handle the thing but but he can get through cracks and crevices like no other like and then spin and then puts him above everybody B he can finish at the rim with either hand the finishing ability is insane yeah that that's just like I don't think we'll ever see that again not in our lifetime yeah it's yeah it's hard to even compare him to somebody from a past generation I'm trying to think of like what that it's not AI cuz AI was blowing by you right he was just crossover and gone and Kyrie can have you on his Kye can have you spinning in circles and still standing right here and then go by you when you turn back around yeah and finish so and why do you think that why do you think that he struggles he struggled so much later in his career to win I think mentally maybe I think it's just it's my opinion you know I think he's just trying to think of got too much going on in his mind as like back when he was 16 17 it was one thing basketball killer yeah right just basketball and now I think what I mean it's part of the job though I think he feels maybe some pressure that he's got to take this the Indian people or tribes or whatever he whatever he dealing with whatever he's got to put them on the map type maybe he feels that he feels a social responsibility got your Championship so that's that's off that's interesting have you seen that with guys you don't have to say names but guys that were just so incredibly gifted but mentally you just saw them break down for sure there's been so many like just right here in New York City how many guys like we were talking about Rucker Park earlier how many guys come through Rucker Park that are way more talented than guys in the NBA they just can't do it bro mentally you know not not not even talking about the drugs or or any of that just like put a referee out there that's going to call defense of 3 seconds or offens of 3 seconds now this dude can't even play now who is the most mentally impressive player you went you played with and against for sure is Kobe against for fig why why just because he's just so cerebral like all these game plans for Star like game plans are are made for guys like that we're going to try to not stop this guy just limit you know what I mean like like when we played the Spurs you can't let you can't let Duncan get 30 and Parker get 25 and Joby get 25 just go ahead and let Duncan get 50 and try to keep Parker and Joby under 10 got a better chance winning that way because of all three of them getting 20 and 30 you're getting your head drugged that you know what I mean not going to clog that so it's like Kobe was like so we put put these game plans for for for guys like that and Kobe and specifically like the fourth or fifth possession the game plan's out the window he done figur the out wow he done figured it out man like these guys are too good done watch too much film he's Kobe's done seen every every defensive scheme we're going to throw at him yeah more than we've worked on it cuz he's watched more film than we've worked on it and everybody's tried to throw it at him everybody he's done seen every type of Defense every type of uh uh pick and roll coverage he's done figured out the best way and and I think guys like that just just learn to be patient in the first quarter yeah we're going to come off this pick roll we're going to pick you apart with Shaq Shaq's got 30 in the first half who who going to get all the points in the second second half Shaq going to be double team now Kobe's getting all the looks wow mean so so guys like that are just just on there's levels to everything bro andless in the NBA you got level here and then you got guys like coob and guys like that are just best you've ever played against the best player I've ever played against is LeBron James yeah I was wondering I played against Jordan back when he played for the Wizards you know and yeah what was that like it was great I mean I mean everybody says it was back in in the old days or or at the end of his career where the had 31 and a half times old hold my ass I'm glad I didn't get none of them Bulls days bro yeah dude um but but just being on the court with him oh it's unbelievable I I get to play he has a golf course down in hobtown Florida and I'm fortunate to get to play there a lot you know oh really have you played with Mike never played with him but every time I go there that's the only thing I want to do is see Mike yeah and like I could be on the first green and I'm like where's Mike and Mike is Wow Mike is so different looking like I can see Mike from way way over there like oh yeah there's Mike well I catch myself like gazing like like the first time I shook his hand the first time at the at the golf course was like he was like Jay will what's up shake my hand and I was like he was like yeah I I don't want to let go I'm looking dead in his eyes I I could just feel him like bro let go of my hand I didn't want to let go like like he just has that effect on me like I just it's just like that's Michael Jordan you know what I mean wow what do you think Mike's Competitive Edge was you know people talk a lot about uh you know skill they talk a lot about you know shooting ability IQ but is there a thing specifically that you thought set him aside just wanted to win man yeah he didn't care and and and that's easy for they say that he didn't care but at the end of the day he's going to have a huge say in that win you know what I mean it's like it's kind of arguing like when you argue the LeBron and Jordan thing you say LeBron's a better basketball player or or or the you know well MJ wasn't a good good teammate he didn't make the extra pass but he won the goddamn game won godamn so how can you argue that yeah there's yeah yeah I heard it was like uh heard someone say this that he can lock in 100% for any game it doesn't matter what it is it's like it could be game 43 of the Season yeah but and I and I imagine game 43 sometimes it's hard to lock in 100% you're beat up your knees are sore all these things it's easy to take a little bit off but MJ could lock in that's why he's one of the greatest if not the greatest what are yeah who's your like like what yeah LeBron I want to hear about yeah quick story about Bob Knight I just heard this yesterday restling so rest his soul he told me a story about Jordan or I saw the story about Jordan said they were playing in the Olympic uh it he was the last last guy to coach uh a basketball team from America to win a gold medal that weren didn't have professional right so there halftime and they're playing I forget who they're playing he's saying they're up 29 Points USA and Bob Knight's walking across the the uh uh Court to go in the locker room at half time he's like what am I going to say to these guys to get them going you know like you know they they did everything right you know what I'm going to say and he he grabbed a stat sheet as he walking across he say Jordan he saw Jordan's name Jordan played 12 minutes in the first half he had 19 points he had 11 rebounds and nine assists Jes in 12 minutes in the first half and he's thinking what am I going to say I got it soon as I open the door I see Michael Jordan the first one so what do I do I said godamn it MJ what are you doing are you going to are you going to set any screens tonight I haven't seen you set one damn screen tonight and he said uh he said MJ looked up with a with a little grin not a big one he said coach you remember last week when you told the whole world that that I was the quickest person you ever seen on the basketball floor he said I'm setting them so quick you don't even see me I thought that was a good story Legend yeah man Bob was a legend yeah night was I heard there was the Phil Jackson story I think it was Mike he said Mike you know there there's no eye in team and Jordan goes there's one in win that's right yeah that's right Michael Jordan was just different you see how that wasn't that bad for me some of you guys put different substances in your hand I can't use the name because of YouTube rules those are bad for you and if you want to quit those instead of quitting completely cold turkey why don't you just replace that product with something else and that is where fume comes in fume is an Innovative award-winning flavored air device it does just that instead of vapor fume uses flavored 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ks.com flagrant go there get that special offer get your hair back keep your hair now let's get back to the show was there ever an arena or venue that you played at that was really special like the first time you ever played at like the Staple Center or the Garden or something like that well arar arena for sure man they they had the best fans ever I'm not just I'm biased yeah the cow bells and all that stuff that was loud and we were the only thing going there we could lose 12 in a row and they selling out the next game you know um but the special gyms to me was like old Seattle Arena um Phoenix's Arena I just always shot good there so that's why I'm choosing these yeah um and did it make a difference like that physical space that you were in like the actual Arena makes a difference in the game for sure like the backdrop and things like that early on in my career once once like I think after my first year you get used to the the background but there's nothing like playing in Madison Square Garden I didn't know nothing about the uh the the uh the circus animals that they kept in there I didn't know that there were I didn't even know there were different players we don't call them that Jason Jason some filthy things U but but Madison Square Garden is like you know it's dark you can't even see like the third row up you know what I mean so I think that's cool all the lights on the floor you hear that oh yeah yeah it's just it's a good spot did you ever get nervous before games um I think I think yeah got nervous for every game I think but I think it's in a good way like soon as the jump whoever controls the tip the nerves are gone right I mean it's just hooping yeah but there was never a game that you sitting in the locker room just like oh yeah every night I had to guard these I'm not like nervous it's like man this about to suck yeah but but it's F to suck for them too yeah know I mean final what about finals anything was GP really supportive of you during that final for sure like I said earlier man cuz he's competitive too you know he wants it but but he hit a big shot in that final I think it was game three that's the one I remember yeah that's the one that BR I told him I said look GP look dwade ain't going to be open this is for dwade and you know Shaq's not going to be I'm not F to throw the Shaq anyway cuz it might have been late in the game might free throws yeah so you told him he's getting the rock yeah because the way it was spread up gp's man was over there by dwade and and they're shading to dwade I said look if I throw you and I was always the kind of guy if I if I throw you a chess p a Cris pass in the air you're you're open to shoot it just you know that but if I throw you like a bounce pass kind of maybe a slower one or maybe kind of behind you then you got to realize that the defense is you got to have to do something once you get it it ain't like a catch and shoot type thing but if you get a crisp one from me you got plenty of time hoisted right and I was always the kind of guy too like shot like JJ reck for instance he wanted to he definitely shot the ball better when he caught the ball seams as opposed to catching the he has to flip the seams before he shoots it would you find out I'm catching that ball and as as as I'm catching it from you I'm turning the seams here to set them up so are you finding out how each guy likes to shoot the ball and then delivering it that way well I'm finding out but not the way I want to find out you know what I mean but but I'm a guy I'm trying to get assist I'm thinking more assist I'm getting more money I'm going to make wow so you're changing the seams on the ball I for for some guys yeah what you mean in the way you found out how would you they're yelling at let him know I'm I'm two for seven what you mean he said well the third the third and fourth pass the scams came sideways how you remember that I think I I saw something of you saying that like you're trying to deliver it for certain guys you're trying to deliver it on the side they're going to shoot so there's less move right like like Steph Curry I think what sets him apart other than making the he can he's doing all this with the ball and he's got the ball here he he can get it from here to here and off so fast huh yeah where certain guys they need it like JJ is knocked down but he needs it right here and JJ's what 6'4 usually got a 67 68 guy if he don't if he's got to flick the not open no more he might have to put it on the floor yeah the margins are so slim yeah Matt Boner remember Matt Boner the redhe head his his redhead yeah Matt bner Oh I thought you said Matt Barnes Matt bner the Red Mamba yeah he would he would his catch and shoot percentage when he played for the Spurs one year was like 60% if you made him put it on the floor one time went down to like 17% so just get that rock on the floor yes make him dribble back then now probably analytics guys getting you this back then they're just yelling at you and that's how you're learning right but guys like Shane Bader Bruce Bowen chy these guys were looking at all that stuff you ever ask Shane Bader why his scalp looks like that no this no Shane Bader is a great dude bro but he he's an amazing D but he has little vaginas on his like like bandaids type he'd be a good guy for your show bro I would love to have him on yeah he' be a good guy but I used to sit beside him when I played with him in and he play Jeopardy on the computer right I'm trying to play against him but he done have a read to answer he answered it before I didn't read the question so I'm like n this ain't going to work God that's so funny everybody else playing in between and he's playing Jeopardy that's right just a different level and looking at the how many times Kobe goes right like he would look at like oh he's really trying to break it down you know how many times if Kobe dribbles twice to the left he's going to pull up this way or if I force him right two three dribbles he's going to spin every time he takes three dribbles to the right he spins back wow yeah he's that deep well don't they call him the no points Allstar wasn't that his name Shane yeah yeah apparently that's the New York Times article written about him yeah apparently when he's on the court everyone scores more points like the whole team goes up and when he's off it's going he's one of those guys affects the game yeah but his individual scoring stats weren't amazing no and he was that dude at Duke he was the guy charges and all that yeah is is okay two things have you found it hard for guys to transition from being the superstar that whole life to role players in the league that's a tough question too I mean I don't I don't it's hard because I don't know who was Stars you know what I mean what like what aren't most guys stars like isn't everybody in the NBA when they were in high school they were the Patrick Beverly was dropping 50 a game when he was in high school right but when you say star did you know Patrick Beverly in high school like okay that's fair that's fair you're a local yeah maybe yeah I think all of us probably all local Stars yeah and I think those those guys like myself and Pat Beverly's of the world know who you know there's levels to everything I just admire those guys who are able Like Pat is a perfect example he was able to transition his game to what could create a a very long career in the NBA and I feel like there's certain guys that maybe they can't do that as effectively for sure there's there's guys like that but but I try to tell kids all the time today like everybody can't score 25 30 points a night right yeah so like like St Adams prime example yeah can't score for nothing but he going to be in the league as long as he wants to and guess what he signed 100 million doar deal for rebounding and setting screens playing D bro and you probably love playing with a guy like that oh for sure especially if you're one of like the Kobe or or or Lebron them kind of guys want them kind of guys all day Russell West like you asked Steph Curry and and Klay Thompson if they want to play without Draymond Green they say hell no hell no chance defense soon as one of them leaves that shit's done really I think if Draymond Green left there they're not winning no more Steph Curry left they're not winning no more and the same goes for Klay Thompson right so you brought up LeBron why was he the best you've ever played against I think I think LeBron's the best because he he just makes everybody around him so much better where it gets back to the point where well Jordan won the game right yeah so how you argue that but my point like Jordan like LeBron when he at the at the end of the game he's got the last second shot and he penetrates or whatever and he's got three guys on him he passes the ball right that's what you're supposed to do and and Jordan's just rising up and shooting it and making it right well back then it was like the defense was different like when Jordan caught the ball on the wing it was just him and the primary Defender next thing is the goal right where where now LeBron gets the ball on the wing you got the primary Defender you got the weak side block slides over the ballside block and you got a guy at the elbow so LeBron's these three guys so passing makes more sense corre would back in the day yeah and I just think I think LeBron could could could lead the league in all five major statistical categories blocks rebounds assists points all that if he wanted to where I don't know if MJ could have done that M cuz he didn't not saying he couldn't have but the mentality he had he was just going get on my back and let's go we going get there you know people say I probably put Jordan above LeBron but when LeBron left all three of his teams they never made the playoffs when Jordan his first year when he was playing baseball the bull still made it to the conference semis I think yeah I think they lost Nick in six or seven check it out Jord played with not taking nothing from Michael Jordan of course Pippen yep horis grant horis grant was Dennis robman uh Tony and oh by the way Phil Jackson oh that guy Phil yeah LeBron who he take to the to to when C Booby Gibson booby gibon Andy V yeah good players yeah good players but they're not Scotty pipping Dennis Robin right you know mo mo Willam great player yeah but come on I think you could put LeBron on any any roster in the NBA right now just put him in there they got to the playoffs yeah yeah even the rag ass Magic's organization we'll take him yeah I'll take him too and bronnie too come on yeah yeah come on down man post career how difficult is it going from every single day of your life is dominated by playing basketball to no longer playing professionally yes it it was it's tough you know still going through it a little bit you know are yeah I mean I'm just so bored with my life you know I can only golf so much yeah you know I guess my kids were younger when I first retired I got three kids one's 22 one's 19 one's 15 um so back then it was okay cuz they they always had something to do but now it's like it's just me my wife and my my youngest daughter so I'm always looking for something to do I wish I had something like that I felt like the same passion and love yeah so it's going to have to be basketball what like a developmental coach or something like that yeah like as a head coach some people why don't you coach high school basketball things like that I couldn't do that the responsibility is too high for me I'm not the most responsible guy but but you know to help like to be an assistant whereas I didn't have to show up every day things like that I could dig but where can you find that at right yeah um but but I think it's tough you know like you got to find something like I found golf I love golf yeah but like I said I can only golf so much I wish I I wish I could just be in the ears of some of these young kids and tell them my perspective of of that pick and roll coverage that you just messed up yeah where like I think some of these coaches are like always just hounding hounding like what' you do you did this wrong you did this wrong well tell me I want to know like like why' you do that why why did you go under the pick and roll that time cuz cuz I'm I'm I was the same way let me explain to you why I did that because you might find like oh that might work but it might not work for Kobe or might not work for Jason kid you know what I mean just like Pat Riley was cool with that Hub Brown was good about that um I played with some coaches just like no this is how it's called red we're going red yeah you know I mean so so it's so it's obviously a tough transition yeah from the outside perspective and again like I've always seen you on you know social media and stuff but I it it's felt like you really were spending time with family obviously trying to find other things to distract you be a golfer whatever um sometimes you see people kind of act out or they party or they drink they're kind of like holding on to the last semblance of like that Fame but it seems to me it's not the fame that you miss it's just like the being passionate about a thing see I I don't I don't miss that Fame cuz I didn't even see the fame you feel me like I'm still living my life the same way I did when I was hooping I'm just not hooping yeah you know I'm still doing going home doing what I do you know messing with with the kids whoever's at the house or whatnot I'm the type of dude I just want to have a good time and laugh bro like even if it's at my expense if you're laughing at me bro tell me I want to laugh with you just be ready so like like when I go golfing and I'm fortunate enough to play a lot of good golf courses where I have caddies and things like that um it's more important for me for that caddy to have just as good if not a better day on that golf course as me just because if if I'm an to you and you're an to me now we got to spend four hours together we're not going to have no fun bro still giv yeah bro I just I just I just want to have a good time man but I still want to whoop your ass at golf you know stuff like that but laughing is more important to me yeah how's the knee though can you get back on Court my knee is okay I I could probably get back on the court if I did a little working out prior like give me a month but I ain't trying to get sore and like that you know what I mean yeah okay you ever go back to Bell I go back to Bell I was just in West Virginia not too long ago doing a little autograph signing for the kids and things there I try to get back one weekend out of the summer to do a camp for the kids man cuz it's West Virginia is tough there not much going on there and when I was living there it was probably the same but but looking back man B Bale West Virginia was the greatest thing ever to me when I was living there um it'd be hard to go back and move there uh but going back and giveing back to the kids and things like that is is priceless do you think that contributed to your humility like growing up in a place like that that's like a small town where the people are humble you know I I don't know whether to say yes or no I just like I what I want to say is I've been like this my whole life no matter what I mean you guys put your pants on the same way I do and so does everybody else so I just because I hooped and and and and and sold a jersey or two like that or took a picture with somebody that'll make me know better than anybody else man so at the end of the day I just when I leave out of here uh I just hope you guys will be like yeah he was a cool dude or your homies ask you about how was Jay will you know I heard he was an that no bro the total opposite of that you know that's the only thing that I worry about in my life from here going forward you know what I mean like just a cool dude man any interest in doing TV uh no because I can't be real you know what I mean it's like I I'm authentic and and I ain't I ain't I I ain't G to say what a producer wants me to say yeah now I might touch up on that but I got to say my how I feel you don't think that they would let you do what you did here um uh I don't know yeah you're not that mean of a guy I don't know yeah you're going to protect the people that you want to protect you're going to tell the funny stories that often make people look funny like but but then again if I feel like I got to say this like it might hurt somebody's feelings like you Brown best coach I ever played for in my life yeah he told me at early on like he called me the bunny Energizer Bunny cuz I you know but anyway that's a different story would he tell it's because I'll be at practice early and I'll be the last one to leave I'm always playing two on two with somebody I'm playing just practi yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm trying to you know me and Bo Outlaw remember Bo Outlaw yeah Bo outla we'll beat anybody two on two I think anybody yeah bro we cuz he not going to shoot every just G to set off screens and let me shoot it he gonna get the rebound we gonna have a good time but Hub Brown told me early on like don't ever leave anything inside he said if if you leave something inside you get an ulcer you might get an ulcer and an aler will be way worse conditioned than than as if you said something to hurt someone's feelings so ever since he told me that bro then I'm just like I'm I'm just going to leave it out there because I think if I leave it out there at least it gives the other person uh a point of view of where I'm coming from whereas if I'm trying to hide it or sugarcoat it now they're looking at me some type of way you they can't trust you whether I'm right or wrong about that I'm probably be wrong in a lot of people eyes for saying what I feel but that's just what I am and I'm not going to change I'm almost 50 my life's on the way down I'm going to change for now why is it on the way down well I just you know mean life expectancy is such only a certain age and you haven't even got grandkids yet man that's going to be crazy that would be crazy yeah that might fill you with a lot of grandkids might be crazy I mean I feel sorry for their mom and dad grandpa will be all right yeah yeah you must love New York though cuz you're like your persona is like a New Yorker like just say how you feel and oh well this is us I like I like New York but not in the winter oh okay you know what I mean I grew up in the snow and stuff like that so but yeah I like I just like going where where I'm appreciative appreciate it you know what I mean where we can just chop it up like this bro and you got to take a trip to Rucker Park though I'm going to soon as we get up out here we're taking a ride over there whether we see anybody or not we're going to ride over there just to just to get a pick for sure last thing I was curious about personally is I've heard that you like magic yeah you like card magic for sure are you good at Magic um what's Magic really it's slight of hand so I feel like you might be all right at it and you I love magic Rick Barnes back back to Providence days he was a magician he had some tricks like you know he disappeared well he didn't disappear like you know your scholarship is gone pull a quar pull a quarter out of my ear type I didn't know how he did that I was just you know I like like the card tricks and things like that yeah I do if I I'd love to be a magician hold on one second no no no no no hold on we got a little a come on look you know The Magicians don't do cars with cameras and all this tickers away bro I might get kicked out of uh the magician out of yeah let's see it has a fresh deck of cards fresh is too I know Nick winlan from a pop get put up hey Nick let's get Nick in here man let me see so y'all like magic at all those love magic who doesn't like magic right I actually bought those videos when I was younger they would like give away the secrets could you ever do the trick though I had I had a good one bro really I had a good one I'm not going to give it away but I had one where I could make the ash go from I could like put cigarette Ash do you know this this trick the cigarette ashes on the top of your hand and then and you open up your hand and then there's Ash on the bottom is you keep a rubber thumb on no I almost want to do it Mark used should do that one in college that one will blow people's mind nicking to the what's upy what's going on guys all right Nick is in the building Nick's been giving us the inside information Nick from a PKA respect yo um okay so is is he a legit magician or what yeah he got some stuff he got some stuff the one he got to show you is uh y'all pick the car you pick the same car he got to see see that one all right all right man let's see who who wants to do it you want me do it I'll do it I'll do it let's go pick a card see I'm in a bad spot here you know what I mean n we're not going all right no no no don't leave do I yeah you look at don't let me see it though you can show the camera all that okay hold on hold got it okay all right okay all right cam see that's put it right there on top there we go you got it yep all right that was a good card that was a good card a good card yeah I picked a really hard to figure out card yeah good yeah well I hope all right here we go y was that it no you sure no that wasn't it I'll be honest I might have forgot I feel like you at the line no no I forgot I got I'm going to put that one right there and I'm going to put the next one on top okay when Alex runs away that's when he got it okay was that one it no you sure I'm positive but you you didn't know about that one yeah well I didn't know it wasn't that one it's not that one put that right there I'll put the next one on top okay okay is that it no you sure no yeah I'm sure it's not that one yeah it's not going good right now that it we are we gonna do this 52 T you said he was a magician bro I'm saying so none of them is yours tap two of them uh oh all right tap one of them all right what was your card four clubs oh oh come on bro sh come on man right there baby there baby I it I it what if you tap the other two of that's what I'm saying that's a good trick all right yeah what what would you have he hates it so much getting got I do not like that one he hates getting I trick me I feel like that's how I feel on a fast break that yeah how many of these do you have man I wish we had another deck that's my favorite one wa you have two you can do one with two decks we have another deck I don't think so that's only one we got there's no way come on Mark come on Mark Wait give give me give there's got to be one more give let's do one more let's do one more I bet Vernon got a deck on him right now ask ask let me see got we play a lot of spad so he stay with a deck oh this guy's [Laughter] black ah see okay all right here we go you probably seen this one before no you'll probably figure it out though it's easy one two three and four you pick a card just tell me what row it's in four it's in this row what row two the same card you sure yep tap two groups no don't do this to me again these two all right so you already know what the card is no you telling me what to do BR group one group two group one or group two uh two okay one or two one sure tell them your card ace of hearts God come on come on man come on let's go you piic that one how' you do that bro come on yo you did it you picked how did you do that Andrew tell us how you did it bro how did you do it tell us how you did it was in on was in on thisy about this that was there a math I'm trying to understand like what's you must have known immediately what the card was maybe you're just easy to read bro yeah maybe maybe you're easy to read you I you picked it I just flipped it you're grand kids are going to love you dude can't wait can't wait wow wow bro yeah come on schles tell us how you did it come on D it was easy now they told yeah that's new Chris Weber right here throw pass he really does all right go yeah yeah I don't get that one didn't he tell you he likes to be the dealer you got to watch his ass that's true oh did anybody ever try to get you to cheat no I would never do that but did they try I would never do that no like if I'm playing my kids like Uno or whatever I might dra draw deal one from the bottom but look but if we're yeah but if we're playing for like a dollar I ain't cheating I ain't cheating you can't let them win Uno that's right how they going respect you that's that's what I do that's right I cheat on all the time all right that was an easy one you probably get this one too oh he now he's really rubbing it in your face see I said it was an easy one don't let him come in between us all right every fourth card is going to be a ace got it 1 2 3 Ace got it yep Ace yep bom y hey you heard you heard him making bom making fun of the way I said tiger yeah dag I didn't know F all right one two three every fourth card is what e go ahead flip it up you know what that row is going to be okay yep knowing these are Aces pick one of these rows okay pick one of those rows okay and now I want you to switch that Ace with that Ace switch places and then tap these three Aces and they all moved over there with that one okay damn probably thought it was going to be like a couple little tricks I didn't realiz he was good I got confused by that one CU I didn't believe him when he said the aces were what they were so I'm a little confused by this one but then they were there what the come on bro off the elbow good off the elbow he picks one row in the whole game bring it right now got another one here we go this a good one a good one come here come come no that would be next all right throw it throw what's up man you have a seat right there if you want I'm I'm going to make four stacks okay there's got to be at least let's say eight cards per stack okay you tell me when to stop I got to make four yes yep stop stop one two or three what does that mean where you want me to put this card that one's fine two yep one or three three last one got to go to one okay one two three smiling bro one or two two two last one got to go to one okay one two or three three one or two two last one got to go to one okay you got him shook I never seen him one two or three three one or two one last one got to go to three yeah MGM y'all looking for a dealer what's the chance of all them CS being the top on the same I mean the same on top matter of fact might be all Aces there's no way that one's an ace no way there's no way ain't no way is it God damn come on is if this one's not an ace this is crazy how much you going to give me 40 mil I ain't got it damn God damn that's some fire dude I don't even understand it we got the I don't even understand it I don't even understand it I don't even understand it like I want figure it out it's it's magic all right what is this what what are we doing here what do we have here so like can you even go to Vegas and play cuz isn't it like cheating if you know all this type of well I'm thinking like they don't let him touch the cards supposed touch the card I think just see where every single card is apparently I had to get my hands on it first ah okay okay hold on are you going to do the two de like wait wait wait wait wait wait I have to pee but but I want to be here for the yeah all right but don't do some for them do you know how to count guards no sir I can't remember to play out the Huddle bro I'm going count cards I don't even know if he knows or remembers um I got a memory like a elephant Jacob Jay bought a Phantom I don't know do you know I think blue 42 33 I want to remember he bought a Phantom he only had a car for a little while wait who you want phant him where Memphis right I had no no in Orlando well I was in Memphis when I playing but I kept I always had a house in Orlando yeah I bought a house in Orlando since 02 so we all I was I always brought my wife and kids and dogs WEA City I was in yeah but we always go back to Orlando in the summer okay all right so I'm I'm boring my mom's car one time I'm trying to get up to the gym I never seen a Rolls-Royce in person I was blown away I got my little flip phone out and I'm like at the light like oh it's a rollsroyce I didn't know he had just got a Rolls-Royce we get to the gym and about to start playing he like were you taking a picture of me at the life a phantom I'm like imagine your homeboy taking a picture just seemed weird I'm like and sneaking it too was that me was awkward I was just telling him that like yeah I look like a real I never seen that car I was telling him too he had um I don't know if you remember these on your seven series had the the bagos I'm talking to Y outside like what's good bro he went to the gym I just waited just so I could go out and spin them I was like like like the prices right you the prices right bro I SP them like 30 times and they were they'll spin for like 20 minutes I was out there just like yeah going different ways just i' like I'd like to see the video footage of that like surveillance camera running around the C G again we a never seen no like that was like one of us so I thought it was the craziest ever wait so when when do y'all meet y'all meet before you're even at sack yeah yeah oh wow but you were a kid yeah I was 16 something like that yeah oh wow and you were hooping a little bit no not even I was like 13 yeah well I was sneaking in the gym just trying to get on with the guys that's one way when we're playing pickup with the lockout season with with all the magic guys and these little Jets was sneaking in the gym like on the back door and we throwing it between people's legs and so could you play back yeah it was high yeah like like in between games here they trying to play us one-on-one type you know what I mean like I used to do you ever cross him up of course we tried did he ever get you I'm sure everybody's got got right I had a couple buddies a couple of us could play we could we was we was doing all that we was doing everything we could just to at least be with the guys and then for us never seen no like that just running all these guys was like no shock and not these guys go yeah no no for us it was bro penny so slept on yeah unbelievable I mean were you were you uh actually played in in Miami with with with me for a year this is late after all yeah for sure he was great but early P wait were you playing against Penny when you were at orando yeah yeah what was that like cuz that's early Penny that's that's funny you ask we're playing and he knows what time it is Penny does I got next they won he's like hey I ain't real loose yet so so take it easy no I put it in seventh gear yeah so I kind of lost a little bit of respect for when his bu said that way yeah um but he could play but he was too too slow for this went really yeah that's probably the injuries started to I think this is even before the injuries it matter what what it was too slow really yeah wow so only Speedy claxon oh he didn't have a chance either defensively really but I didn't have a chance on him defensively either Fair yeah Fair Speedy Clon was fast as hell yeah like come on a gold tooth bro what yeah you know how fast that slide down that go too that's disgusting sh disgusting cuz it takes a little bit with enamel but if you had gold it's so fast friction to friction the surface bro F I need to know how you found that out come on I'm from bail I oh man never heard like come on a gold god dude bro oh that's funny there's nothing faster oh that's funny there's nothing faster Speedy maybe yeah wait so he was he was telling us about the technical in China technical in China oh yeah so we're over there we're playing like against the like a I don't want to say the national team but it's something like that like the dude is their coach is like the national team coach or he might be the leader of their army or some I don't I don't even know but he's somebody he was somebody he's somebody everybody in the G you can't [Laughter] talk oh so it's early in the game it's early in the game there's a lot of people there play a lot of you know they PID me some money to come over there and play whatnot fans pay their money to play watch me play ref was cheating imagine imagine that imagine so I mean and they're Chinese ref they can't speak English so I'm yelling at them trying to curse them they don't understand me they're just and that's making me even more mad cuz they like I'd rather curs me back like you know what I mean but but they're just smil at you yeah I'm just steady man all right cool so I'm like we call a time out what I told I said look you just go down there I told my team you just stand there and set this stand right there set this screen and I'm going to rub I'm going to run as fast as I can and run my Defender right off your screen right I said they're probably going to call offensive foul don't even worry about it cuz you know what time it is they're cheating right yeah boom we did it sure enough offensive foul and I told him I said listen don't do anything crazy after he calls the offensive foul right and sure enough he said okay no problem so as soon as they call offensive foul my dumb ass boots this ball I mean I kick the ball I try to kick it up as far as I can to the 15th level right something happens didn't kick it very good but I got a good got a good kick into something happens it's all kinds of commotion BL they call it technical boom commotion next thing you know Boom the ball's right back in my hand well what do I do kick it again I kind of Kick the further than that so next you know now I'm kicked out of the game in the first quarter this is a charity game or yeah over in China everyone came to see him play yeah now now sitting on who's playing now it was like some well some other celebrities and some like g g Le guys some of the generals I think Vince Carter was our coach mhm yeah and he yeah he's out there hanging on the rim during the game didn't get no technical calls on him unbelievable yes that makes me more mad at the ref yeah cuz they're sucking his dick you know what I mean but anyway now I'm sitting over there it's like it's got to be I don't know if we played two quarters or I mean four quarters or two halves but it's a lot of time left and I'm sitting over there and I see somebody in the crowd with a marshall shirt on oh that's old school yeah so I'm like I'm like well and he's got two or three kids and I got to sit here the rest of the time and I'm like well y'all come on over here from West Virginia in China how the choices I mean chances sit down on the bench with me so I'm like hey I just start suting with them next thing you know the the boss of China whoever that is boss of China whoever that is yes bro dude whoever he was everyone go down there go down there talking to the refs talk to the refs D we want Jason back in blah well the ref go talk to the coach he's the boss down there remember yeah like no he can't play they're trying to win they're trying to beat us right now they can't play but I think they end up letting me play come back in the second half um but yeah I I was I was fear I was fearful that they were going to take my passport that trip yeah you could get locked up yeah bro last place you want to be locked up in China I think yeah why why six foot white boy in China prison probably wouldn't go too well what do you think would happen I'm not so sure man but I'm not I'm not I'm not just fill you up with duck sauce well I'm not I'm not not I'm not fit for prison anywhere I tell you right now can't be good in China can't be good bro I mean they might do that too they don't give a no they don't care especially now how long ago is this this is probably about 6 seven years oh okay this is recent yeah is China's different what made you kick it though like I don't know I just you usually don't act out like that I just made what was going to make me feel good kicking just handing right back to me I'm like they think I was bullshitting like boom what did the crowd do were they just loved it right when I saw it land back in his hands I'm like oh I was wor I like the worst thing that could happen is it lands back in his hand like dink yeah and he looks up and I'm just like oh yeah yes sir I mean any punter in the NFL would have been proud great bro what's the weirdest place y'all have been overseas India wait why why why why India India I'm not speak on it India's a different you need that both of them dropping their head at the exact same stuff wait why why why why why why who did you see taking a and where what didn't we see no no look I don't want to I don't want to disrespect nobody I got to sit that one now you India is different India is different man China 10 times India is different I've been to 30 countries I've been to 30 countries I've been everywhere in the world yeah India is different but why why and it's everything about it just just from just from the Stray cows running down the freeway or or or like traffic you think traffic is bad here like we might we got to go I don't know let's say four blocks yeah and I swear to God it took us two and a half hours but come to find out it wasn't the car the tra it was a guy up there you know a horse and carriage wasn't no horse just a carriage and a human barefooted in the freeway walking no yeah downtown Mumbai yeah ain't had a pedicure since pedicures I got the zoom in just INE but man God bless India though bro it's like why were we all there we were there for uh the Kings and the Pacers were playing a preseason game yeah and we actually the Kings had a ambass king they had ambassador from each team I was the Kings and are owned by an Indian now yes they are DEA shrimp was the uh Pacers uh Bast I got to meet Larry Bird there that was that was great Larry Larry's great uh I met de shrimp that was the first time really got to talk to De shrimp and I was like look de I know this the first time I met you but look that's Larry Bird down there got it you played with him please introduce me you I'm who your big ass if I don't so like oh right now let's go I'm like oh I didn't want to go right now I'm not ready for this so here we go Larry Larry Bird's face this long I like like so he introduced me to Larry Bird and he stood up and I'm like whoa I couldn't think of really anything to say I said so Larry does does mum reminds you of French Lick a lot French Lick Indiana is where he grew up he said yeah it does and when he said yeah it does I just kind of lost interest because I know you're lying through your teeth Larry there ain't nothing in this world that reminds you of Mong nothing it's it's one of a kind it's nothing like it it's just different and and can't wait to come back can't wait we did we did do a cool thing though they had a floating a floating basketball court I don't know if you saw Luca dones having some kind of Air Jordan thing on a floating Court like on the water yeah huh yeah but it was it was it was cool but the water you don't want to fall in that water why not you don't want to drink the water no no no no you don't want to really eat yeah okay that's what it was that's what it was they were so relaxed with the way they handled food and touch food it was just [Laughter] too to what y mean wait wait what me want to right you'll get sick if it's not hot you're getting sick but what would you see like the way that they would like prepare the food you were watching no thank God we didn't see the prepared like I'm thinking like like if I ever get a chance to go back to India I got to have a microwave with us at all time like I have to bring a microwave and some like you're going to fly a microwave cups of noodles and like that I didn't I mean I've been a little bit around the world and and I've been able to find something like a McDonald's usually the McDonald's is somewhat at least the fries I don't know about now India India McDonald's you're straight so way you're not so way you're not McDonald's is hot but they don't have beef oh they don't have beef yeah what are you going to have chicken Maharaja Mech fire uh the Chicken Big Mac chicken patties what what else oh yeah the McDonald's menus over there is different too like you know you China McDonald's menu I have like two hot dogs laying across the Big Mac and and the hamburger you know what I mean just but but India I bet it's crazy too they didn't you know yeah I didn't we didn't go to McDonald's in India we did on that last day we did yeah neither one of us got we found that that fried rice spot we found some fried rice spot like day three of day seven yeah and there was a little hair in his food a little you had a whole Indian in there your and again the casualness of it bro was like you want me to take it out P the treadlock out of he want me to take it out that's when I was like what you mean he was like well what do you want me to do with it yeah give me a new one that's how I knew so what's going on behind the scenes nah man I'm off that so he he didn't eat the rest no and I'm and I have a diet like I'm on a diet all the time not not what's your diet yeah yeah just standard you know egg whites and liver and no hair oatmeal and as long as it's not that strictly no hair is allowed you're not getting none of that in India no it was what else what just when you remind me of it it gives me like the hairs in the back of my neck go up really the best part I'm a good sport I you you know I'm a good sport I eat all kind of in all kind of countries I've had snake and dog and rabbit I've eaten it all you had dog yeah in China so so you know look he's from a pop Florida but look we flew from from obviously India that's a long flight long flight so we're trying to get out of there early right we're going to get a new flight to get up out of there it's on I can't have my man fly in the back trying to get in business there ain't no business class on the early flight he's like it I don't care I'll ride in the back let's go no no at all cost I said I don't care it's a 16 hour flight went we flew over Emirates business you know how those flights are I said y'all can keep all that just put me on the next flight home mind you I'm a good sport I swear I'm a good sport put me on the next flight home I don't care where I sitting I sat right in the middle in the very back I had never seen no like this in my life we got to the back of the bro they had a the guy the guy with the Rick sh he was pulling the plane he pulling the plane bro they had a big ass bottle of water back there and everybody was just swinging yeah you're a liar there's no way I st right there I didn't move I didn't touch nothing s right here for 16 hours like this yo that's everybody got to do better bro got to do better bro come on this man doesn't even like sharing food he doesn't even like people sharing food that must have been bad that must have been oh no I'm off it and we flew Em's business on the way I had my own uh uh refrigerator on my seat on the way back I'm like that's stra just get me home bro it was it was it was it was different okay what other what other countries y go to Airlines you flying the way back you flew Air India cuz I don't even do that no it was like it was ragly as hell but whatever it was wait what ragley ragley rag raggedy is what I not ragley ragley ragley yeah I got it I'm teaching him a few things I'm learning tagger tager did y'all see the way he was looking at me when I said tager earlier these went I was just trying to figure out what the I was like who is this amazing athlete that I've never heard who is tag he get stopped everywhere I thought it was a horse I thought it was like a Sea Biscuit yeah was like SE biscuit or tagger or something like how do I not know this Amazing Horse tagger but now I get it yeah bro we went to Indonesia that was interesting how was that oh did we got our Visa as soon as we landed on the on the runway we got off the plane got our Visa there okay yeah different okay cost us I think it was like $278 $2.78 for okay Indonesia we played in an arena was like closed in kind of like sofa you've been in sofa stadi but it's not really closed in yeah I mean it was so hot yeah like during timeouts I'm trying to sit in the cooler in the in the water clip so I couldn't do it dirt damn near dirt floor wasn't it it was damn near I mean whatever you want to call that Indonesia different too were the were the refs cheating over there too no they were happy to see us Americans m I think Vin Baker it was a was a long time ago remember Vin Baker was still playing who was the oead that went with us played for Milwaukee a long time ago man these were charity games or these are just like PR like like a uh like a Chinese group cats with money yeah we put on like a exhibition game bring like some ex retired NBA guys and then we'll fill out the roster with like our homies or or G League guys that are trying to get on maybe in the Chinese leagues or something like that you know what I mean what's the biggest bag you ever got for one or oh man I get 100 Grand 150 Grand maybe just for it depend on how many games I played obviously play more the game if you play games you get paid more well that's the way I work at but I think my man AI he he hits him in the head when he goes over there oh I can imagine for sure yeah he just show just for him to show up he's going to get some bread yeah but like in China man it's crazy to me like how many fans there are in China of basketball yeah I think it's the difference in here in China is like 13 year olds to like let's say 35 year olds love the NBA here right well they're 10 yearolds to 90 year olds they all love NBA love it wow love it bro that's really cool yeah and what's their team Houston right I'm sure it'll be Houston CU ya Ming you know they play Trace McGrady is huge over there too yeah he shuts down wait really yeah like shut down did he spend a lot of time playing exhibition games there like I I just think CU he was so good play with ya and I think he went over there at the end of his career and played a year or two over there in the Chinese basketball what's that like have you spoken to guys who like went played there for the year yeah and what do they say it's different you know but like they like you can only have two Americans on your team most of those European teams you can only have two Americans so that's why it's so important for an american guy to get a du dual citizenship oh so he doesn't count as American right that's interesting and they only got x amount of money to pay this uh uh the other players correct and would that have been anything you would have considered late in career no you don't want to be far from your family I don't want to do that but I like China for me is like a sday tops that's that's as long as I can stay yeah what happens after that well in your body I start to die well I mean I mean that's what it is he's like I can't eat so when he said I don't like other people touching my food and then he said he didn't like India I was like I know yeah I get I get India of course you know I'm so glad though I got to go to India though yeah I'm so thankful that I got to do all this types of that I that I've gotten to do yeah and I hope there's more to come I swear what about uh what about how how is dog I don't really know I mean I was eating all kind of and afterwards they told me by the way you ate such and such and such really like I said I'm a good sport if they put some out there I'll try it I know he ain't going to try that's crazy they paid him to try it and he ain't going to try and I'm adventurous I'm like it I'll eat it that's great he ate dog but wouldn't eat in India in the country respectful he didn't know it was dog let's give it to him he he didn't know but you knew he wouldn't ate that if he knew from the GetGo I bet I wouldn't let him dog all the other stuff I'm ain't afraid of I'm tried it all you know fing rat and horse I tried it all yeah horse ain't bad but what about the breed of dog do you know the breed no I mean Cocker spanel when you walk you can see him hanging down on the side of the street come on yeah in the Philippines though yeah like you know how you like got the hot dog stands here yeah yeah literally hot dog yeah dog dripping blood whoa listen man it's different it's a long way from Bell basketball Global game you know it is a global game what's the the edible story you mentioned can Talent just a good one allegedly allegedly allegedly because you know you can't have Edibles in China no of course not um we always fly out of LAX Jay picked up some edibles on the way he was still kind of new in the Edibles game uh we get out to China like I don't know first day or something we get into this event I think Tracy McGrady was with us a couple NBA guys chony bips saved the day yeah so saved the day went like they would have revoked my passport and everything would have been P chony well he uh they were doing like little interviews or something and we're in a big group it wasn't like one of our normal groups because in China like a small group would be like 100,000 people you know just like 100,000 people right there we're in a small little group and U they're like doing little short interviews and they bring Jay up but what happened was before we got out the van it was his first time doing the Edibles he's like hey can you read up cuz we got the internet he's like read up how much how many milligrams I should take so I'm like reading it was like little little little things I'm like okay say if it's your first time you should probably take like 8 to 10 milligrams I looked over he took the whole thing no but the whole thing was four pieces of whole things I think I think he ended up with 200 Mig or something my God on his first rip on his first rip in China China I'm way over there bro way over there no matter where you were at you were in ch after you take four Edibles bro and that's his first rip so he do you just look like you making fun of them right I right where I needed to be okay go we're inside and I can see he's star to slow down a bit I'm keeping an eye on it's my dog you know what I'm saying I make sure he don't want to make a bad name for himself they ask him up to start doing an interview or something and I can start to see like oh he's he's he's he's looking different and I'm keeping an eye on I'm like oh he gets to one point he's dribbling the ball and he's talking to the guy he didn't know the ball stopped it wasn't with him no more hey three more dribbles still giving the interview and he was on point with it yeah you know what I'm saying and like hey yo where's this interview yo we need to fun this we we need it I think chy stepped in and like started doing his thing and I took Jay like hey let's get on out of here let's take a quick little break go get you some water and I got him to the van and we sat inside this van and it looked like all all the whatever all the water molecules in his body had been sucked out he look like a old catchers mitt so dry and he was like Hey them things wer no joke like and I remember like yesterday was called TKO punch shout out to TKO punch them things I don't even think they make them no more dude no we have since discovered which one it was and they don't even make them no more see and we found out the guy in the shop was like oh I remember though he said he said he said one word dangerous dangerous W and you had two of the bars four x what you're supposed to have it's only like a little square it's only like a little square like a 50 supposed to have like 8 to 10 milligrams he had 200 he had like 20 times mod opposed to so how what happened did you so he's in we're in the van I tell you what I slept great for how many months we're in the van but I was the only one in the van he was looking so far past me like I the the look in his eyes I never seen it before I never seen it since I'm like bro you good and you just thoseo and I got a pretty good tolerance but I would imagine those things do you remember anything like from that event like from taking him to waking up no I don't remember know that no I got to tell him that story that that's how it went down he was so when do you recover when does you when do you come back on I probably sometime that evening I'm saying really yeah that fast me dude if I take too much I'm gone wow I mean still high as that evening but you know like I was high as giraffe tell you right now now which is a dish in China bro the the Edibles I remember I was out for three days once on Edibles man those things aren't no joke they're not a game dribbling yo dribbling out the ball is crazy handling that he's still talking yeah I had to come scoop and the and the reporters just so polite they're not going to say they're always like that oh dude yeah it was bad it was bad but I was I was I was right where I needed to be if everybody could get to where I was it would have been life would be better for everyone seriously seriously I don't know how long it would be better for it was going to be better for that moment it would have been way better yes bro oh my goodness I want to see this de of cards all right look which deck you want I want that one you Shuffle it all right Shuffle it till you you're ready you tell me when you're done yes [Laughter] sir all right you done let me give it a couple more you up a little bit right here there we go done perfectly put it right there I do like to just follow follow my lead with that deck yep pick your favorite card like you're doing it and just lay it down on don't let me see it though oh and lay it down on the uh on the table yep I'll lay mine okay put the deck down right there put it on top all right cut it put that on top all right this time cut it like real deep boom you want to cut them some more no it's fine okay take this step pick your same favorite card okay put it on top of the deck okay I'm going to pick my same favorite card if we got the same favorite card I don't think I can show you the rest of the trick that's the only crazy part about this trick so you what was your favorite card oh no man holy that's so fire dude holy typ sh he be on I don't get how that's possible that's not possible that's not possible I don't get how that's possible I don't get how that's possible I think you're easy to read dude I think that's what you're not understanding I the come on bro I chose it m I cut it and then I recut it you did the whole Tri so you have to know the carard he did them all he did all of them all of them but the other ones I think are there's math involved this yeah I don't know this is Magic MGM I don't get that one I did all the cutting for that oh and I cut it however I want to cut it so even if I did like you know put it on the bottom so it goes wherever how do you know my card before I he's in your head I think he had it in his hand a whole time somehow he just got it at the end just got it on I chose it can you do it again to him I right which deck you want take this Shuffle It Up tell me when you you know I mean come on hand over to the the color [Laughter] side you say when you're done why are you so angry dude I'm just trying to figure this out he just hates just steing all right you ready rock yeah put that deck down let me try get it all nice that it there go all right pick it up pick your favorite card out of that jump you got to look at me before you pick it though all right all right I got you now I ain't going to look at I'm going to put mine on top like that right there all right put it on top yes sir all right cut them junks all right cut this one real deep want to cut him some more yeah how you want to cut it like right in the midle cut it cut it no right on the top oh just one card bom oh oh he trying to trick you now to pick your same favorite card all right you ain't put it back in there he all right just cut the oh let let go that's this is crazy didn't even let you get to it I like that didn't let you get I don't like that hey man Jason thank you so much for coming man awesome look if I can help y'all out any any y'all don't need my help but anytime you need me bro the same H the same anything you're working on please let us know dude this has been great and uh please always continue to bring Nick around for sure we're going to work on a new magic trick yeah we got to talk to the wizard The Wizard I don't know man yeah I think there was some Chinese interference right there maybe 100% it was probably a Hindu god you talking all that about Indian might be yeah yeah new came down and got abely all right man thank you so much appreciate Jason Williams everybody

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Length: 196min 26sec (11786 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 07 2023