GYMNASTICS AND UNIVERSITY THAT
PROVIDED NASSAR, MICHIGAN STATE. PROVIDED NASSAR, MICHIGAN STATE.
>> JACOB MOORE JOINS ME NOW IN >> JACOB MOORE JOINS ME NOW IN HIS FIRST LIVE INTERVIEW ALONG HIS FIRST LIVE INTERVIEW ALONG WITH HIS ATTORNEY BEN JOHNSON. WITH HIS ATTORNEY BEN JOHNSON. WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I KNOW ITS NERVE-RACKING.
IT CAN FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, FOR IT CAN FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, FOR
ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY YOUNG MEN. ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY YOUNG MEN.
HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO SPEAK OUT HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THIS, JACOB.
>> WHEN ALL THIS KIND OF STARTED >> WHEN ALL THIS KIND OF STARTED
COMING OUT, I DIDNT REALLY COMING OUT, I DIDNT REALLY THINK ABOUT MYSELF AS ANY
DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW.S ANY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW.
JUST LIKE HOW THE OTHER FEMALE JUST LIKE HOW THE OTHER FEMALE
VICTIMS KIND OF CAME OUT AND VICTIMS KIND OF CAME OUT AND
TOLD THEIR STORY. TOLD THEIR STORY.
IT WAS -- YOU KNOW, I DIDNT SEE IT WAS -- YOU KNOW, I DIDNT SEE
MYSELF AS ANY DIFFERENT. MYSELF AS ANY DIFFERENT.
>> WHEN DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT >> WHEN DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS ABUSE? WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS ABUSE?
>> I WAS OUT TO LUNCH WITH MY >> I WAS OUT TO LUNCH WITH MY
SISTER AND MY BROTHER. SISTER AND MY BROTHER.
WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED COMING WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED COMING
OUT, I KIND OF REMEMBERED THAT OUT, I KIND OF REMEMBERED THAT
UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING I HAD UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING I HAD
DURING ONE OF MY TREATMENTS, AND DURING ONE OF MY TREATMENTS, AND
I STARTED RESEARCHING, YOU KNOW, I STARTED RESEARCHING, YOU KNOW,
CHI LINES. CHI LINES.
>> LIKE IS THERE A CONNECTION >> LIKE IS THERE A CONNECTION
BETWEEN WHAT HE WAS DOING TO YOU BETWEEN WHAT HE WAS DOING TO YOU WITH ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES AND WITH ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES AND SHOULDER INJURY. SHOULDER INJURY. >> I WAS LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE >> I WAS LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE THERE WAS SOME SORT OF REAL
MEDICAL TREATMENT INVOLVING THE MEDICAL TREATMENT INVOLVING THE
CHI LINE BETWEEN MY SHOULDER AND CHI LINE BETWEEN MY SHOULDER AND
GROIN AREA. GROIN AREA.
WHEN I FOUND NOTHING I WAS WHEN I FOUND NOTHING I WAS
SHOCKED. SHOCKED. >> HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN HE WAS >> HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN HE WAS DOING THIS. DOING THIS. >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. >> YOUR SISTER WAS ALSO SEEING >> YOUR SISTER WAS ALSO SEEING HIM FOR TREATMENT. HIM FOR TREATMENT. >> YES. >> YES. >> HOW OLD WAS SHE? >> HOW OLD WAS SHE? >> WEVE SEEN HIM FOR PROBABLE >> WEVE SEEN HIM FOR PROBABLE EIGHT YEARS. EIGHT YEARS. >> THE THING ABOUT NASSAR, EVERY
ONE OF THE VICTIMS TALKED ABOUTY ONE OF THE VICTIMS TALKED ABOUT
HOW HE WAS COMPLETELY TRUSTED. HOW HE WAS COMPLETELY TRUSTED.
IT WAS ENCOURAGED AND SICKED ON IT WAS ENCOURAGED AND SICKED ON
THE VICTIMS. THE VICTIMS.
WAS THAT THE DYNAMIC FOR YOU, WAS THAT THE DYNAMIC FOR YOU,
TOO. TOO. >> HE HAD A STRONG, PREVALENT
RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OFENT RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF
COACHES IN MY GYM AND ATHLETES, COACHES IN MY GYM AND ATHLETES,
MYSELF INCLUDED. MYSELF INCLUDED.
HE WAS GOOD FRIENDS WITH MY MOM. HE WAS GOOD FRIENDS WITH MY MOM.
WHEN MY SISTER RETIRED FROM THE WHEN MY SISTER RETIRED FROM THE
SPORT, HE WAS THE ONLY MAN THAT SPORT, HE WAS THE ONLY MAN THAT
SHE CALLED TO MAKE THAT SHE CALLED TO MAKE THAT
DECISION, SO HE WAS A VERY -- HE DECISION, SO HE WAS A VERY -- HE
WAS VERY PRESENT IN OUR LIVES. WAS VERY PRESENT IN OUR LIVES.
>> HE WAS CLEVER. >> HE WAS CLEVER.
HE WAS CLEVER. HE WAS CLEVER.
THEY CALL IT GROOMING WHEN THESE THEY CALL IT GROOMING WHEN THESE
PREDATORS GO AFTER YOUNG KIDS PREDATORS GO AFTER YOUNG KIDS
AND SORT OF MAKE THE CHILDREN AND SORT OF MAKE THE CHILDREN
FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM IN A WAY. FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM IN A WAY.
TRUST THEM AND SEE THEM AS A TRUST THEM AND SEE THEM AS A
NURTURER. NURTURER.
NOW YOUVE DECIDED TO SUE HIM. NOW YOUVE DECIDED TO SUE HIM.
HES IN JAIL. HES IN JAIL.
HES GOING TO BE IN JAIL FOR THE HES GOING TO BE IN JAIL FOR THE
REST OF HIS LIFE. REST OF HIS LIFE.
WHATS THE THINKING BEHIND THAT. WHATS THE THINKING BEHIND THAT.
>> I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS >> I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS
AGAIN. AGAIN. NO ONE SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS.
TO COME OUT AND DO THE RIGHTS. TO COME OUT AND DO THE RIGHT
THING IS IMPORTANT TO ME. THING IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
>> SHORT OF HOLDING HIM >> SHORT OF HOLDING HIM
ACCOUNTABLE, CAN YOU EXPAND YOU ACCOUNTABLE, CAN YOU EXPAND YOU
WHAT JUST SAID? WHAT JUST SAID? I BET YOU ANYTHING, I KNOW AS I BET YOU ANYTHING, I KNOW AS SURE AS WERE SITTING HERE THERE SURE AS WERE SITTING HERE THERE ARE OTHER YOUNG CHILDREN OUT ARE OTHER YOUNG CHILDREN OUT THERE BEING VICTIMIZED RIGHT
NOW, THAT FEELING YOU JUST SAID NOW, THAT FEELING YOU JUST SAID
OF I KNEW SOMETHING FELT OF I KNEW SOMETHING FELT
UNCOMFORTABLE. UNCOMFORTABLE.
>> SO IT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE >> SO IT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE
BEING KIND OF IN THE ROOM WITH BEING KIND OF IN THE ROOM WITH
HIM DURING THAT TIME. HIM DURING THAT TIME.
EVEN THOUGH THINGS FEEL EVEN THOUGH THINGS FEEL
UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU NEVER REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU NEVER REALLY
KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS BLATANTLY KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS BLATANTLY
WRONG. WRONG. >> HES A DOCTOR. >> HES A DOCTOR. >> HES A CHILD. >> HES A CHILD. >> HES A DOCTOR AND YOURE A
CHILD. A DOCTOR AND YOURE A CHILD. WE SEE THIS PATTERN OVER AND WE SEE THIS PATTERN OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHERE THESE PEOPLE IN
POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY TAKELE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF A YOUNG CHILDS ADVANTAGE OF A YOUNG CHILDS
TRUST. TRUST. >> THEY MANIPULATE.
THATS SOMETHING WE DONT ALL THATS SOMETHING WE DONT ALL
UNDERSTAND, THESE SEX ABUSERS, UNDERSTAND, THESE SEX ABUSERS,
PEDOPHILES, THEY INFILTRATE THE PEDOPHILES, THEY INFILTRATE THE
FAMILY, THE COMMUNITY, THE FAMILY, THE COMMUNITY, THE
COACHING. COACHING. THEY ARE LITERALLY EVERYTHING TO THEY ARE LITERALLY EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY. THEY WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO THEY WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO FEED THEIR SICKNESS. FEED THEIR SICKNESS. >> DO YOU THINK THERE ARE OTHER
MALE VICTIMS?NK THERE ARE OTHER MALE VICTIMS?
>> I KNOW THERE ARE MANY MORE >> I KNOW THERE ARE MANY MORE
VICTIMS, FEMALE AND PERHAPS MALE VICTIMS, FEMALE AND PERHAPS MALE
S WE KNOW STATISTICALLY, MEGYN, S WE KNOW STATISTICALLY, MEGYN,
I KNOW YOU KNOW, ONE OUT OF TEN, I KNOW YOU KNOW, ONE OUT OF TEN,
TWO OUT OF TEN OF THE FOLKS COME TWO OUT OF TEN OF THE FOLKS COME
FORWARD. FORWARD. WE HAVE 250 SOMETHING STRONG,
AND I COMMEND ALL OF THERONG, AND I COMMEND ALL OF THE
SURVIVORS LIKE JACOB, MALE AND SURVIVORS LIKE JACOB, MALE AND
FEMALE, FOR COMING FORWARD AND FEMALE, FOR COMING FORWARD AND
STANDING UP AND DOING THE RIGHT STANDING UP AND DOING THE RIGHT
THING. THING. WE KNOW THERES MORE
STATISTICALLY. MORE STATISTICALLY. MULTIPLY THAT OUT AND ITS GOT MULTIPLY THAT OUT AND ITS GOT TO BE IN THE THOUSANDS. TO BE IN THE THOUSANDS. >> JUST YOU BEING HERE WILL
HOPEFULLY RELEASE OTHER MEN FROM HOPEFULLY RELEASE OTHER MEN FROM
SHAME THEY ARE FEELING, BECAUSE SHAME THEY ARE FEELING, BECAUSE
AS YOU KNOW VICTIMS BLAME AS YOU KNOW VICTIMS BLAME
THEMSELVES, SITTING IN THIS
